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honda522
09-17-2009, 10:24 PM
Last week was 20.0%. Thats just sad, we need to work on that.

Anyone think Haley was being just a bit conservative on the play calling?

Vandelay
09-17-2009, 10:37 PM
As long as we just snap the bleeping ball, we'll be allright.

obsessed
09-17-2009, 10:41 PM
Not conservative, horrid route running is more likely the cause.

Chiefster
09-17-2009, 11:23 PM
If Cassel is good to go, perhaps he'll open things up a bit - which will, hopefully, help the running game some. The problem last week was the problem we've had the last three seasons: the O-line.

matthewschiefs
09-18-2009, 12:45 AM
I think he was. He has his backup QB in most coaches would be. Hopefuly cassel will play this week and we see the real offense.

honda522
09-18-2009, 11:29 AM
I think he was. He has his backup QB in most coaches would be. Hopefuly cassel will play this week and we see the real offense.
The problem is these lineman need to STEP UP. No BS, just do your job. Block and stick to your man. I don't mean the OL, I am DL as well.

No pressure on Flacco last week. Even with 8 guys bringing the heat, he had all the time in the world.

If Croyle is going to play, he need to pull his head out of his butt and figure out this offense. There is no reason for him to call a time out just after the Ravens called a time out. He had 2 mins plus to figure it out. He needs to step up and prove he wants to win.

I don't if our OL is bad now...as long as I see improvement. Ofcourse the WR need to go deeper. Does Brodie not like Bowe? He only threw to him twice. He threw to Engram a couple of times and Mark Bradley the most.

If we can put up 24 points against the 5 best D in the leauge, why can't we knock the piss out of Oakland this Sunday?

matthewschiefs
09-18-2009, 12:02 PM
The problem is these lineman need to STEP UP. No BS, just do your job. Block and stick to your man. I don't mean the OL, I am DL as well.

No pressure on Flacco last week. Even with 8 guys bringing the heat, he had all the time in the world.

If Croyle is going to play, he need to pull his head out of his butt and figure out this offense. There is no reason for him to call a time out just after the Ravens called a time out. He had 2 mins plus to figure it out. He needs to step up and prove he wants to win.

I don't if our OL is bad now...as long as I see improvement. Ofcourse the WR need to go deeper. Does Brodie not like Bowe? He only threw to him twice. He threw to Engram a couple of times and Mark Bradley the most.

If we can put up 24 points against the 5 best D in the leauge, why can't we knock the piss out of Oakland this Sunday?

I realy think that the Chiefs got desent pressure. The thing is that flacco shocked the chiefs Defenders with how moble he is. Flacco had to scramble alot. He had that one big run. Then on the game winning TD pass he was running around till he found a guy. The chiefs SHOULD be the raiders becuse I think that they are the better team. GO CHIEFS

honda522
09-18-2009, 12:17 PM
I realy think that the Chiefs got desent pressure. The thing is that flacco shocked the chiefs Defenders with how moble he is. Flacco had to scramble alot. He had that one big run. Then on the game winning TD pass he was running around till he found a guy. The chiefs SHOULD be the raiders becuse I think that they are the better team. GO CHIEFS
Obviously not enough, considering the amount of yards racked up. And completions. They need more pressure to get sacks and force him to throw it away.

buffman316
09-18-2009, 12:18 PM
I think Corey Mays in the key in the Raiders game. He will have to pressure Russell and help plug the gaps. Watch McFadden around the end too, the Raiders give up quickly on going up the gut.

yashi
09-18-2009, 12:39 PM
It's really difficult to convert 3rd downs when you're picking up at most 1-2 yards on 1st and 2nd down.

honda522
09-18-2009, 02:07 PM
It's really difficult to convert 3rd downs when you're picking up at most 1-2 yards on 1st and 2nd down.
I agree, thats why on first down we should go all out. Send 4 deep on the first play of the game and set the tone.

yashi
09-18-2009, 02:54 PM
I agree, thats why on first down we should go all out. Send 4 deep on the first play of the game and set the tone.

I'd like to see more play action on first down. I think the most frustrating part of watching the past 3 seasons is how predictable we were on offense.

Remember our last playoff game against the Colts? Everyone was expecting us to just run every down. What did Herm decide to do? Yep, run 1st, 2nd, and most 3rd downs for the entire game. Even with 8 in the box every play. Huard was having a career season too. So frustrating.

honda522
09-18-2009, 03:50 PM
I'd like to see more play action on first down. I think the most frustrating part of watching the past 3 seasons is how predictable we were on offense.

Remember our last playoff game against the Colts? Everyone was expecting us to just run every down. What did Herm decide to do? Yep, run 1st, 2nd, and most 3rd downs for the entire game. Even with 8 in the box every play. Huard was having a career season too. So frustrating.

Trent started that game, not Huard, but yea, that would be. I am caught up with so many formations and other plays that I often leave stuff like that.

Some people think that you can run from the gun but I beg to differ. Therefor they could be able to P/A out of the gun.

metalstorm999
09-18-2009, 10:56 PM
we really need our o-line to step up this weekend, if cassel does play they need to give him some time to throw the rock.it will open the game up for lj to get some yardage.im from socal surrounded by raider and charger fans i hate them all with a passion and am tired of hearing their sh$t.kc has always been a playoff team until a few years ago. so o-line lets kick it in the *** and get this poor socal boy some sh$t to sling back at these suck *** raider fans!! p.s. hate the chargers even more

pbatrucker
09-18-2009, 11:10 PM
I'd like to see more play action on first down. I think the most frustrating part of watching the past 3 seasons is how predictable we were on offense.

Remember our last playoff game against the Colts? Everyone was expecting us to just run every down. What did Herm decide to do? Yep, run 1st, 2nd, and most 3rd downs for the entire game. Even with 8 in the box every play. Huard was having a career season too. So frustrating.

First the running game has to work before play action works.

matthewschiefs
09-19-2009, 12:26 AM
First the running game has to work before play action works.

and if the passing game can get going that will help the running game as well. Cant wait till sundays game. GO CHIEFS!!!!

wolfpack
09-19-2009, 09:23 AM
I think LJ`s running is to conseritive. He runs in 2nd gear all the time. That is when he`s not running up the centers butt.

honda522
09-19-2009, 11:35 PM
First the running game has to work before play action works.
Not as much as you think. You line up in the Iform, run the ball, then when you pass do it out of a differnet formation. Keep running the ball from the iform, and then BOOM. Change it up. Your play action passing game sets up.