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KottkeKU
09-28-2009, 02:32 AM
where are they? Preseason when we fired Chan Gailey and let Hailey take over the offense, we showed some promise with the running game and some shots downfield with our quarterbacks...

ever since week 2 (when we put Cassel in..) it has been back to Herm ball...in the last two weeks, i dont think ive seen Matt Cassel TRY to throw the ball longer than 20 yards....

Against BAL, Brodie actually threw it around a little bit, especially second half....now with the "60 million dollar man", its back to bush league...

How do you expect to have a defense respect your running game, or passing game for that matter if you dont even fu#@ing TRY to throw it deep?

So frustrating...

Hayvern
09-28-2009, 02:42 AM
This is one area where you are going to continue to see plays like this, that is because our offensive line cannot protect the QB long enough for a long play to develop. This has been a problem since 2007. It is that simple.

All you need do is look at how other teams have been able to use the long ball against us, that is because we are not putting pressure on the QB, but they are.

That is why the loss of the Former Chiefs Player Who Shall Remain Nameless is so devastating. When we had him, we had that safety valve we could go to. We don't even have that now and we are paying the price.

Until the offensive line is fixed, we are never going to see the long plays.

doobs_05
09-28-2009, 03:46 AM
This is one area where you are going to continue to see plays like this, that is because our offensive line cannot protect the QB long enough for a long play to develop. This has been a problem since 2007. It is that simple.

All you need do is look at how other teams have been able to use the long ball against us, that is because we are not putting pressure on the QB, but they are.

That is why the loss of the Former Chiefs Player Who Shall Remain Nameless is so devastating. When we had him, we had that safety valve we could go to. We don't even have that now and we are paying the price.

Until the offensive line is fixed, we are never going to see the long plays.


I'll name that guy TG....if we didn't trade him we would have a win against chokeland and maybe Bal....

garciakcfan
09-28-2009, 01:13 PM
I'll name that guy TG....if we didn't trade him we would have a win against chokeland and maybe Bal....


I agree 1000%

yashi
09-28-2009, 01:22 PM
Cassel had a 29 yd TD pass to Bowe last week.

It's pretty difficult to go deep when you're sacked by the time the receiver is... well, deep.

rodu
09-28-2009, 01:44 PM
all they have time for is the short routes

brish
09-28-2009, 01:52 PM
all they have time for is the short routes

And our recievers don't get open much on those either, and Ryan / Cottam aren't TG..

Seek
09-28-2009, 02:10 PM
I may be wrong, but two of Cassels passes over 20 yards last week were intercepted as well. Given the lack of time to even hand a ball off. I don't see how Cassel can throw it down field.

Brodie throws it down field, but never on targer. So what is the points if it is not completed?

KottkeKU
09-28-2009, 03:10 PM
well then how do you explain the BAL game where Brodie threw for almost 300 yards, and in the second half we were throwing the ball like a normal NFL team...

yashi
09-28-2009, 03:29 PM
well then how do you explain the BAL game where Brodie threw for almost 300 yards, and in the second half we were throwing the ball like a normal NFL team...

You mean the game where Brodie threw for 177 yards (not 300), 50 of which was from 1 play?

Hayvern
09-28-2009, 04:45 PM
You mean the game where Brodie threw for 177 yards (not 300), 50 of which was from 1 play?

And that 50 yard play was not thrown 50 yards. The thing you have to consider is yards after the catch. I think that was more like a 25 yard pass that got a lot further after the catch.

yashi
09-28-2009, 04:54 PM
And that 50 yard play was not thrown 50 yards. The thing you have to consider is yards after the catch. I think that was more like a 25 yard pass that got a lot further after the catch.

True story.

Bosco
09-28-2009, 06:08 PM
it comes down to the oline and ours sucks right now.

Isawa_mo
09-28-2009, 07:03 PM
I know the TG thing is frustrating for a lot of folks. And I will not lie, I look at his stat line every week, and it kind of hurts. However, I know we have a second round pick for him. It really all depends on what becomes of that pick. If that pick is a starter for say six years after being picked, then it will be a success. Unfortunately, it looks like the Falcons are going to be really good this year, and thus the pick will be lower than I would have liked. Do not forget, however, its still higher than what Peterson was going to get for him.

And no, I am not saying that player will be of TG's quality, but the player does not have to be. He just has to be someone that will be playing with the team when they are good. Odds are, TG is not going to be around anymore at that point. You also cannot overlook the fact that he was demanding a trade...

AkChief49
09-28-2009, 08:52 PM
I'll name that guy TG....if we didn't trade him we would have a win against chokeland and maybe Bal....there is no reason but "shooting self in foot" syndrome for that one. the score of that game should have been 27-3. penalty after penalty and turnovers.. The Baltimore game gave me encouragement, some hope. The chokeland(that's working on a couple of levels here)game was a heartbreaker, this one, I did not get to see it, well this one just sucked. the little bit of replay I seen showed Page missing on a tackle for 6. Am I wrong? Baltimore is rising (the creme always does, like it or not- it cannot hurt that they have Al Saunders as a O- consultant ) and we played with them. Then we go lay an egg like this......frustrated I am!!