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figcrostic
12-10-2009, 06:23 PM
let me start by saying, I originally gave Brodie a chance, but after awhile I started not to like him, he was a gunslinger and a bad one. He had the arm but he didn't have the accuracy, on screens he threw the ball way too hard which ended up bouncing off a rb or wr's hands. He threw a lot of interceptions and got hurt a lot, so I kind of wrote him off. Thigpen came along, and he wasn't a traditionally good qb, but he completed passes, had a better touch, and fought his *** of. To me he saved the 2008 season for me thank you Thigpen. We got rid of Thigpen and maybe it's a good reason, he wasn't a long term fix he was a bandage. Since then I have seen Croyle play a couple games, and he looked more patient, he listened to what he was told and executed, and he looked and acted tougher. In his game with the Ravens here were his stats: 66.7 completion rate that's 16 out of 24 177 yards 7.4 average 2 TD and 0 interceptions those are really good stats against a good pass defense. The only reason he didn't have more yards, is because it's when we had LJ and we wanted to run the hell out of him even though he did nothing, and he didn't even know the system because he wasn't the starter. In the game Brodie also was sacked 3 times, and didn't break. Here's the thing I am not a negative person, if you look at most of my post they are positive towards the Chiefs, I am just tired of having bad QB's, if Cassel came in and was awesome I would love the guy I don't hate Cassel as a human being and wish no ill will to him, but he has not been playing good in fact he has been completing just over 50 percent of his passes which is horrible. Give Brodie a chance, what's the worse then that's going to happen, if he does bad and Cassel comes back pissed and does great, then great, or what if Brodie comes and kills it then great.I wanna win and be winners, and if something is not working then change it. Heres another thread I thought was very good as well Is it Time...for a QB*Change? - Arrowhead Pride (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/12/9/1193784/is-it-time-for-a-qb-change)

MDChiefs!
12-10-2009, 07:02 PM
I like Brodie and was, and still am a Brodie Supporter. However, what does it say to the fans and the public when you bench your newly aquired "franchise QB" that our new GM brought in? I dont think he can afford to lose the fans this early, and thats just what benching Cassel before the season is up would do. He cant afford to let us know that he made a bad decision in trading for him and paying him all that money. That says alot about your GMs decision making right there. As far as on the field, I think Cassel should at least finish out the season as starter especially since our schedule is alot friendlier these last couple games. With Bowe coming back against cleveland and our o-line playing a little better lately I think Cassel will finish alot better than what he has been playing...If he finishes out the season questionable, I would like to see Brodie competing for the job next season. If it doesnt work out with Cassel, his contract is front loaded so we cant do something with him and take minimal cap hit. I do think Brodie has matured alot in the NFL and has played well this season the limited time we did see him. (except on the fake punt >:|)We have to worry about re signing Brodie after this season, before we talk about him being in our future plans though...

yashi
12-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Dude how many Brodie Croyle threads are you going to make? I like Brodie, particularly his arm strength, and I wouldn't mind seeing him get another chance, but he's proven that he's way too injury prone to be a franchise guy. He's a solid backup.

Drunker Hillbilly
12-10-2009, 07:25 PM
Ya cuz he has been impressive for the last couple years!! He was benched remember.....

MDChiefs!
12-10-2009, 07:25 PM
haha I just noticed that. Dude...your other Brodie thread is just 3 topics down. Relax...

matthewschiefs
12-10-2009, 08:18 PM
I like Brodie and Thank he can be a good QB. That being said I still fell that its to early to give up on Cassel. We paid him alot of money. To much not to give him the chance to prove himself. I think Brodie could do just as good. but I just think its to early to give up on cassle.

marloweopatchiefs
12-10-2009, 08:58 PM
Absolutely not gonna happen. I'm glad they are sticking with cassel.

Hayvern
12-11-2009, 01:05 AM
Brodie, been there done that, I think we traded the wrong QB, unfortunately Brodie was probably not worth as much as Thigpen.

honda522
12-11-2009, 01:12 AM
Brodie has his chance, for 3 years now. The only thing he does better is he has a quicker release than most QB's and against Cassel, he gets rid of the ball instead of taking the sack. I still wonder why the hell he has a job.

tornadospotter
12-12-2009, 12:15 AM
I like Brokie, I think he is great, he has a wonderful back ground and story that can make you want to root for him to succeeded, but he needs to be Brodie, and not brokie.:11:

jason1981
12-12-2009, 12:23 PM
Brodie just needs an actual chance with a decent team. Not sure anyone will be good with the same team he has played with. I dont think you can blame or judge his career on just him. you have to consider the situations as well.

Vandelay
12-12-2009, 12:31 PM
Brodie just needs an actual chance with a decent team. Not sure anyone will be good with the same team he has played with. I dont think you can blame or judge his career on just him. you have to consider the situations as well.
Here's the deal, you can say the exact same thing for Cassel. The difference is Cassel has already proved he can be good with a decent team around him.

honda522
12-12-2009, 07:00 PM
Here's the deal, you can say the exact same thing for Cassel. The difference is Cassel has already proved he can be good with a decent team around him.
:bananen_smilies046:

Well said rep.

texaschief
12-13-2009, 04:08 AM
I wonder if Pioli would make the same trade for Cassel this season after watching Croyle start for an entire season. I honestly don't see much difference between the two. They basically come up with the same result thru different means. The reason you're seeing Cassel struggle this year is the same reason you saw Croyle and Thigpen struggle in this type of offense last year. The offensive line just isn't capable of giving these guys enough time on a consistent basis to get into a rhythm.

Since this upcoming season is supposed to be an uncapped season, I wonder if starting Croyle for the remainder of the year might help give Pioli an idea of whether or not he should cut Cassel and either move forward with Croyle or draft a QB in the first round. Cutting Cassel wouldn't bother the Chiefs in an uncapped season.

This may be Pioli's only shot at a muligan. I wonder if he'll take it.

That being said, I think Cassel has had a couple bumps in the road the past couple seasons, but don't forget that he's basically playing with the experience of a sophomore in college. He needs better coaching. He should be fine.

Hayvern
12-13-2009, 01:06 PM
I wonder if Pioli would make the same trade for Cassel this season after watching Croyle start for an entire season. I honestly don't see much difference between the two. They basically come up with the same result thru different means. The reason you're seeing Cassel struggle this year is the same reason you saw Croyle and Thigpen struggle in this type of offense last year. The offensive line just isn't capable of giving these guys enough time on a consistent basis to get into a rhythm.

Since this upcoming season is supposed to be an uncapped season, I wonder if starting Croyle for the remainder of the year might help give Pioli an idea of whether or not he should cut Cassel and either move forward with Croyle or draft a QB in the first round. Cutting Cassel wouldn't bother the Chiefs in an uncapped season.

This may be Pioli's only shot at a muligan. I wonder if he'll take it.

That being said, I think Cassel has had a couple bumps in the road the past couple seasons, but don't forget that he's basically playing with the experience of a sophomore in college. He needs better coaching. He should be fine.

Durability is still a concern with Brodie, it would be hard to see Brodie start an entire season as he cannot stay healthy an entire season. Don't forget, this guy had two seasons to be the starting QB on this team and could not stay in the game.

So yes, I think Pioli does make that trade, I think Brodie gets traded over Thigpen if Brodie was able to remain healthy, but since that is not the case, his value on the trade market was less.

chief31
12-14-2009, 10:11 AM
Here's the deal, you can say the exact same thing for Cassel. The difference is Cassel has already proved he can be good with a decent team around him.


Hey Frig. Just bump one of your many existing threads on the "Cassel is a bumb" topic.

Every post doesn't have to be a thread-starter.

yashi
12-14-2009, 10:26 AM
Here's the deal, you can say the exact same thing for Cassel. The difference is Cassel has already proved he can be good with the most explosive offense in NFL history around him.

Fixed your post.

figcrostic
12-14-2009, 12:34 PM
Fixed your post.
LOL good fix

honda522
12-14-2009, 12:41 PM
Hm, looked like Cassel played good for a good portion of the half. Pressure came down and the whole team stopped playing as a team.

And yesterday, we found out Cassel has an Arm. We just need to devlope the whole team more overall.

Seek
12-14-2009, 01:38 PM
Brodie has his chance, for 3 years now. The only thing he does better is he has a quicker release than most QB's and against Cassel, he gets rid of the ball instead of taking the sack. I still wonder why the hell he has a job.

The only thing Brodie does better than Cassell is not get up after a sack to prolong his lilfe.

If Brodie was starting since day one, he probably would be on IR right now.

Chiefster
12-14-2009, 02:13 PM
The only thing Brodie does better than Cassell is not get up after a sack to prolong his lilfe.

If Brodie was starting since day one, he probably would be on IR right now.

...This!

Rep!