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#58ChiefsFan
12-16-2009, 08:00 PM
Would you please give us a list of the available quarterbacks from the END OF LAST SEASON who would be a better fit on this team.

I read post after post of how bad he is and not many if any names have sufaced that would have saved our season.

For the record I still fully support Cassel and maybe that makes me an idiot but I want more than one season before calling for a replacement.

honda522
12-16-2009, 08:07 PM
Alot of people forget this is a team sport, not me sport. Whole team is not good.

Unfortunately, Qb's and Coaches take most of the blame.

josh1971
12-16-2009, 08:11 PM
And frankly, watching him orchestrate drives in the Cowboys and Steelers games that were last minute, game-tying ones, I'm perfectly happy with the guy's ability to play here in KC.

Now we should protect him.

honda522
12-16-2009, 08:13 PM
And frankly, watching him orchestrate drives in the Cowboys and Steelers games that were last minute, game-tying ones, I'm perfectly happy with the guy's ability to play here in KC.

Now we should protect him.
And yet, people for get these as well. :bananen_smilies046:

Sick Dog
12-16-2009, 08:20 PM
Being a Chiefs fan through all of this losing is actually making me tired...constant defending or criticizing I do more defending because I try to be optimistic but all of the loads of crap that fly around here looking for Haley, Pioli, Cassel, Bowe, Jackson, Dorsey, Albert and who ever else has a bad week head is ridiculous.

I know it is normal being a fan to a point but you can not draw any conclusions at this point you have to give them all more than this year and for that matter next. All they need to do next year is show improvement to this year and hope that the 3rd year under Pioli and Haley they compete for playoffs and then maybe a run at it in the 4th year. It is minimum a three year plan so grin and bear it and drink away the bad Sundays:drunkhb:

Canada
12-16-2009, 08:20 PM
The best is the ones calling for Croyle to start again. How quickly everyone forgets how much they hate our QBs

Three7s
12-16-2009, 09:15 PM
I have no doubts that Cassel can be, at worst, a manage the game QB. I have serious doubts about his deep ball, but other than that, he's pretty solid.

#58ChiefsFan
12-16-2009, 09:26 PM
I just feel that what he was able to do last year in NE was an actual representation of what Matt can be as a qb. 11-5 and if not for a freak year, a playoff spot as a first year starter is pretty good.

wichitaj
12-16-2009, 10:25 PM
The best is the ones calling for Croyle to start again. How quickly everyone forgets how much they hate our QBs

i LOVE Cassel, if we had a line that could hold im upright, hopefully our first round pick will take of that, and maybe one more decent target, a TE maybe, this guy would be great.

PS, we need to sign Chambers. Bowe and Chambers would be a good combo, charles and a rookie RB, a decent young line, i can see us being a team like GB in a year, OR two.

Remember this team was in shambles when Haley and Pioli took over.

Chiefs fan for life, good or bad, everyone that's turning on them can STFU and GTFO.

matthewschiefs
12-17-2009, 12:22 AM
The best is the ones calling for Croyle to start again. How quickly everyone forgets how much they hate our QBs

The backup Qb on a loseing team is the greatest job in the world. EVERYONE loves you.

I like Cassle I think he can be good. I have said that maybe for a half it would be good to sit him. Let him see things from the sideline. It may let him see some things he didnt before it might lite a huge fire under him and up his performace. I still think hes more of an option then Brodie.

chief31
12-17-2009, 12:56 AM
Being a Chiefs fan through all of this losing is actually making me tired...constant defending or criticizing I do more defending because I try to be optimistic but all of the loads of crap that fly around here looking for Haley, Pioli, Cassel, Bowe, Jackson, Dorsey, Albert and who ever else has a bad week head is ridiculous.

I know it is normal being a fan to a point but you can not draw any conclusions at this point you have to give them all more than this year and for that matter next. All they need to do next year is show improvement to this year and hope that the 3rd year under Pioli and Haley they compete for playoffs and then maybe a run at it in the 4th year. It is minimum a three year plan so grin and bear it and drink away the bad Sundays:drunkhb:

Myself, I am pretty hard on Todd Haley. But not actually calling for his head.

But when you are bold enough to give as much of a chance as he gave some of the players around here, I question rather or not he deserves more of a chance than they did.

He seemed to send a message of "Get it right, right now, or get out".

So, why wouldn't he be held to that same standard?

If you expect the people under you to be held to a certain amount of accountability, then you should be willing to be held to that same level, yourself, in my opinion.

Sick Dog
12-17-2009, 11:59 AM
Sure I see the point but he does not have the horses and he inherited some donkeys should you not be given more than one season to recruit your own talent and they get paid tones of cash to perform he can't play so it is different so I would not hold him at that same level just yet he deserves more time the players no especially meaning the veterans.

endzonewillie
12-17-2009, 07:08 PM
There has been a time or two that Croyle was in at QB and I didn't see him do anything that makes me think he is our starter over Cassell. We should get the man a decent line to work behind then see how he does . If he blows after that we should draft one and not a second or third rounder either, first round all the way. Something tells me we won't need to.

tornadospotter
12-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Sure I see the point but he does not have the horses and he inherited some donkeys should you not be given more than one season to recruit your own talent and they get paid tones of cash to perform he can't play so it is different so I would not hold him at that same level just yet he deserves more time the players no especially meaning the veterans.
My problem with Todd Hailey, is he came in as rookie OC, then got a Head Coaching job and is so all knowing now that he is a HC, he cans his very experienced OC, one week before the season starts. That is very much a burr under my skin right now! I, gasp, almost, rather have Herm, gasp, somebody call 911, I think I am having a Herm attack. I hope my opionion changes! I hope Hailey becomes the coach to take us back to the Super Bowl, I hope Cassel is the one QB that helps us get there, I hope, I hope, I hope, someday it will happen, but I hope it is soon!!!!! I am a Chief, but a very short tempered, and less patient one these days.

matthewschiefs
12-17-2009, 11:51 PM
My problem with Todd Hailey, is he came in as rookie OC, then got a Head Coaching job and is so all knowing now that he is a HC, he cans his very experienced OC, one week before the season starts. That is very much a burr under my skin right now! I, gasp, almost, rather have Herm, gasp, somebody call 911, I think I am having a Herm attack. I hope my opionion changes! I hope Hailey becomes the coach to take us back to the Super Bowl, I hope Cassel is the one QB that helps us get there, I hope, I hope, I hope, someday it will happen, but I hope it is soon!!!!! I am a Chief, but a very short tempered, and less patient one these days.


Even with what i have seen this season I am so glad that haley is the coach instead of herm. We no the coach that herm is. He had been around long enough tore down the jets and helped to tear down the Chiefs. The fact is that we dont no the Head Coach that Todd Haley is going to be. This is his first year most coaches dont do well with there first team after a coach is Fired. sure there are some exceptions but most dont. Theres a reason why the prevous coach was fired. So I Do not miss herm for one secound.

Connie Jo
12-18-2009, 12:09 AM
Would you please give us a list of the available quarterbacks from the END OF LAST SEASON who would be a better fit on this team.

I read post after post of how bad he is and not many if any names have sufaced that would have saved our season.

For the record I still fully support Cassel and maybe that makes me an idiot but I want more than one season before calling for a replacement.

I'm with ya, not against ya...nor against Cassel, agree it's too soon to judge him. In fact, I'm finding the more of an 'underdog' he becomes, the more I've paid attention to detail of his game. I actually see details in him that have initiated my support for him as our QB growing.

That said, I may change my opinion by the end of next season, haha. :)

endzonewillie
12-18-2009, 01:51 AM
I'm with ya, not against ya...nor against Cassel, agree it's too soon to judge him. In fact, I'm finding the more of an 'underdog' he becomes, the more I've paid attention to detail of his game. I actually see details in him that have initiated my support for him as our QB growing.

That said, I may change my opinion by the end of next season, haha. :)
If Pioli is allowed to use the deep pockets of the Hunt family fund mountain , works on getting our OLine back to the condition we are used to seeing I think that by the end of next season you will be in Love with Matt Cassell. Right now our team is in such horrid dismel condition it is almost impossible to make a fair judgment. Our WRs drop just about every pass thrown at them including the ones they should catch like when they hit their hands. Matt is getting the ball in the right places for it to happen which is amazing since he is usually running away from multiple men chasing him down. When JC runs hard and sets up a second and four situation and then Cassell gets sacked it really makes his job that much harder and that is not his fault. He isn't perfect but he is also not 100% at fault for the Chiefs only getting three wins in 2009 to date.

Connie Jo
12-18-2009, 02:25 AM
If Pioli is allowed to use the deep pockets of the Hunt family fund mountain , works on getting our OLine back to the condition we are used to seeing I think that by the end of next season you will be in Love with Matt Cassell. Right now our team is in such horrid dismel condition it is almost impossible to make a fair judgment. Our WRs drop just about every pass thrown at them including the ones they should catch like when they hit their hands. Matt is getting the ball in the right places for it to happen which is amazing since he is usually running away from multiple men chasing him down. When JC runs hard and sets up a second and four situation and then Cassell gets sacked it really makes his job that much harder and that is not his fault. He isn't perfect but he is also not 100% at fault for the Chiefs only getting three wins in 2009 to date.

Nice overview, and I agree! I also don't believe he's anywhere even close to being the biggest problem for the Chiefs, if a problem at all that is.

I really like what I've begun to see in Cassel, and my respect for him grew when he became irritated with booing fans...somewhat saying to himself outloud STFU. It shows he's competitive, and want's to win, as well as he wants approval & support of the fans...and that's a good indicator IMO.

A QB who only cares about the money or himself, wouldn't have reacted with frustration to the booing...would've casually ignored it.

My current thought is that he will have a much better 2nd yr, and a GREAT 3rd year with the Chiefs. I can't pin point why, but I'm feeling by the 3rd or 4th year...we are going to see a great Chiefs team making the playoffs...hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl!

tornadospotter
12-18-2009, 03:17 AM
If Pioli is allowed to use the deep pockets of the Hunt family fund mountain , works on getting our OLine back to the condition we are used to seeing I think that by the end of next season you will be in Love with Matt Cassell. Right now our team is in such horrid dismel condition it is almost impossible to make a fair judgment. Our WRs drop just about every pass thrown at them including the ones they should catch like when they hit their hands. Matt is getting the ball in the right places for it to happen which is amazing since he is usually running away from multiple men chasing him down. When JC runs hard and sets up a second and four situation and then Cassell gets sacked it really makes his job that much harder and that is not his fault. He isn't perfect but he is also not 100% at fault for the Chiefs only getting three wins in 2009 to date.
Yes, and maybe he will get a Qb coach to tell him his passes are not caught because he has no touch, and needs to work on that.

Chiefster
12-18-2009, 03:31 AM
My problem with Todd Hailey, is he came in as rookie OC, then got a Head Coaching job and is so all knowing now that he is a HC, he cans his very experienced OC, one week before the season starts. That is very much a burr under my skin right now! I, gasp, almost, rather have Herm, gasp, somebody call 911, I think I am having a Herm attack. I hope my opionion changes! I hope Hailey becomes the coach to take us back to the Super Bowl, I hope Cassel is the one QB that helps us get there, I hope, I hope, I hope, someday it will happen, but I hope it is soon!!!!! I am a Chief, but a very short tempered, and less patient one these days.


...And with the black out Sunday it has become clear that you are not the only one.

endzonewillie
12-18-2009, 06:00 AM
So the game is blacked out for the entire country or just the KC metro area?

AussieChiefsFan
12-18-2009, 06:01 AM
So the game is blacked out for the entire country or just the KC metro area?

I think it's within 55 or 65 miles of kc.

AussieChiefsFan
12-18-2009, 06:04 AM
Here's the article: Kansas City Chiefs - Chiefs-Browns Game to be Blacked Out on Local TV this Sunday (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/12/17/chiefsbrowns_game_to_be_blacked_out_on_local_tv_th is_sunday)

endzonewillie
12-18-2009, 06:04 AM
I think it's within 55 or 65 miles of kc.
I just read that in a differant forum of this board.I just hope they let Sunday ticket users watch it.

AussieChiefsFan
12-18-2009, 06:07 AM
I think pay tv isn't blacked out....

endzonewillie
12-18-2009, 06:15 AM
I hope your right.

pbatrucker
12-18-2009, 06:47 AM
I just read that in a differant forum of this board.I just hope they let Sunday ticket users watch it.
The game won't be aired on Sunday ticket within a 75 mile radias of KC either according yo the article. Nfl network will telivise the game starting at midnight Sunday night.

AussieChiefsFan
12-18-2009, 06:54 AM
Right

Chiefster
12-18-2009, 12:20 PM
I'm glad that I live far enough away that I'll get it on TV...I guess. :lol:

AussieChiefsFan
12-18-2009, 07:23 PM
I'm glad that I live far enough away that I'll get it on TV...I guess. :lol:

:lol: I guess that's the one good thing about not living in Kansas city :)

honda522
12-18-2009, 09:50 PM
I'm glad that I live far enough away that I'll get it on TV...I guess. :lol:
Dammit, I live to close.

Oh well, I have to work, I'll just turn on the radio.

Chiefster
12-18-2009, 11:52 PM
Dammit, I live to close.

Oh well, I have to work, I'll just turn on the radio.


I've had to do that many times myself.

endzonewillie
12-20-2009, 12:52 AM
Dammit, I live to close.

Oh well, I have to work, I'll just turn on the radio.
I love listening to the radio team the Chiefs have. Mitch and Lenny do a marvelous job win or lose.

AussieChiefsFan
12-20-2009, 04:18 AM
Mitch and Lenny do a marvelous job win or lose.
Definately, on game-day they do a great job! especially mitch!

and if you're wondering how i can listen to them, I go to their website during the game and click "listen live".

Chiefster
12-20-2009, 09:36 AM
Definately, on game-day they do a great job! especially mitch!

and if you're wondering how i can listen to them, I go to their website during the game and click "listen live".

I love hearing TOUCH DAOWN KANSAS CITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!