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m0ef0e
09-05-2007, 07:49 PM
Excerpts taken from original article at: http://www.nfl.com/preseason/story;jsessionid=BAC312BCFFBC8DE70BFA957FC5A8EF03? id=09000d5d801bf764&template=with-video&confirm=true

Last year, not one division winner had a winning record in the preseason.

New England Patriots (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/profile?team=NE)2-2
Baltimore Ravens (http://www.nfl.com/teams/baltimoreravens/profile?team=BAL)2-2
Indianapolis Colts (http://www.nfl.com/teams/indianapoliscolts/profile?team=IND)1-3
San Diego Chargers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sandiegochargers/profile?team=SD)2-2
Philadelphia Eagles (http://www.nfl.com/teams/philadelphiaeagles/profile?team=PHI)2-3
Chicago Bears (http://www.nfl.com/teams/chicagobears/profile?team=CHI)2-2
New Orleans Saints (http://www.nfl.com/teams/neworleanssaints/profile?team=NO)1-3
Seattle Seahawks (http://www.nfl.com/teams/seattleseahawks/profile?team=SEA)2-2

If you go back and look at the division winners over the last three years, it's clear that winning in preseason isn't very significant. There have been 24 division winners in three years and the number of those teams that had a winning record in the preseason: 4.

Lets take it a step further and look at the significance of an undefeated preseason. Carolina, Cincinnati and the New York Giants (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG) all posted 4-0 preseason records last summer, leading to heightened expectations from fans and media alike. Lots of people proclaimed the Panthers were headed to the Super Bowl, the Bengals could outscore any team in the NFL and the Giants were building a dynasty. All three teams finished 8-8.

Since 2003, nine teams wrapped up the August schedule 4-0 and only four of them produced winning record in the fall.

The Colts have won four straight AFC South titles and, of course, are the reigning world champions. Their preseason record during that four-year run is 5-12. In other words, nobody should be alarmed that they are 0-2 right now. The Eagles have won the NFC East three of the last four years; during those championship seasons, they managed to deliver a combined 4-9 summer record. The Panthers have gone undefeated in the preseason in three of the last four years. A perfect 12-0 and only once in those three years (2003) did it translate into a division title. The only year they didn't go undefeated in the dress rehearsal season was 2005 when they finished at 2-2. And they made the playoffs that year as a wild card.

Did the Saints' 1-3 record last summer leave anyone thinking they would be the story of the year in the NFL?

Chiefster
09-05-2007, 11:35 PM
Excellent points all around m0ef0e; good read!

I get so hyped up over the thought of the return of football season, and wanting to see my Chiefs win that I lose sight of the whole reason for pre-season, and that is to evaluate the talent on the field and to determine your starters while getting your team into football shape. I think Herm merely sees pre-season as a necessary evil in which to merely get past.

:sign0098:

DrunkHillbilly
09-06-2007, 02:40 AM
Preseason records mean nothing to me. You are right about the fact that it is to evaluate talent and get guys into shape. I think the Colts have won one game in the last few years or something like that.

AkChief49
09-06-2007, 02:47 AM
Excellent points all around m0ef0e; good read!

I get so hyped up over the thought of the return of football season, and wanting to see my Chiefs win that I lose sight of the whole reason for pre-season, and that is to evaluate the talent on the field and to determine your starters while getting your team into football shape. I think Herm merely sees pre-season as a necessary evil in which to merely get past.

:sign0098:
Roger Chiefster! and remember it's only a bad snap and a bad call away from being 2-2 in the preseason. The chiefs D had either the best or one of the best redzone scoring % too!!

peekaboo224
09-06-2007, 05:10 AM
Good points made. Pre-season doesn't mean anything in the end. It's the regular season that counts and I think most teams don't want to show all their plays and play all out during the preseason taking chances of someone getting hurt and gone for the season. Our boys for the most part should be pretty good.

Chiefster
09-06-2007, 05:29 AM
It's settled then; the panic is over!

...At least until we see what we have in week one. :D

swmochiefsfan
09-06-2007, 09:48 AM
preseason is worthless as far as wins and losses go, agreed. Now bring on Sunday, then we'll know a little more and things should start to get interesting.

m0ef0e
09-06-2007, 12:21 PM
Good points made. Pre-season doesn't mean anything in the end. It's the regular season that counts and I think most teams don't want to show all their plays and play all out during the preseason taking chances of someone getting hurt and gone for the season. Our boys for the most part should be pretty good.

Yea, I don't know how many times I've heard this year that preseason play-calling is very "vanilla". You're right. Nobody wants to tip their hand during the preseason.

swmochiefsfan
09-06-2007, 12:23 PM
Ya know come to think of it that seems to be a new term "vanilla" do you recall them using that in the past?

m0ef0e
09-06-2007, 12:25 PM
Not really, no. Either that or I just haven't noticed it before. If I have heard it before, it is definately being more widely used now.

swmochiefsfan
09-06-2007, 12:34 PM
Maybe thats why I'm noticing it more these days

Chiefster
09-06-2007, 11:51 PM
Ya know come to think of it that seems to be a new term "vanilla" do you recall them using that in the past?

I have heard it many times in the past.

Canada
09-07-2007, 03:35 AM
I have heard it many times in the past.

Yeah but only when you were serving ice cream....(chiefster is so old they only had vanilla when he was at the ice cream shop!!) :11:

sling58
09-07-2007, 08:12 AM
Like I have said countless times. The preseason doesn't matter. I am not going to get worried until around week 8. If we have a bad record by then, stick a fork in it!

Chiefster
09-07-2007, 12:22 PM
Yeah but only when you were serving ice cream....(chiefster is so old they only had vanilla when he was at the ice cream shop!!) :11:

respect yer elders boy!:11:

sling58
09-07-2007, 12:25 PM
Yeah but only when you were serving ice cream....(chiefster is so old they only had vanilla when he was at the ice cream shop!!) :11:

What you talking about.....they didn't even have refrigeration when Chiefster was a boy...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

swmochiefsfan
09-07-2007, 12:33 PM
What you talking about.....they didn't even have refrigeration when Chiefster was a boy...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I hauled a block of ice 20 miles uphill, both ways. LOL

sling58
09-07-2007, 12:46 PM
I hauled a block of ice 20 miles uphill, both ways. LOL

With no shoes right?

chief31
09-07-2007, 12:48 PM
When you tried to take the ice back, did they explain the melting process and send you home again? (Carried the block of ice both ways.)

Chiefster
09-08-2007, 02:01 AM
With no shoes right?


In three feet of snow with shorts on and a sleeveless shirt.

sling58
09-08-2007, 08:16 AM
In three feet of snow with shorts on and a sleeveless shirt.

Man I am so glad I didn't grow up in the 1800's!!! Chiefster I do not know how you did it.

:lol: :lol:

Chiefster
09-08-2007, 01:39 PM
Man I am so glad I didn't grow up in the 1800's!!! Chiefster I do not know how you did it.

:lol: :lol:

Heh! I would answer you this question but that would facilitate the need for post whoring/thread hijacking, which would almost assuradly bring about another idea/complaint. :lol: :lol:
j/k

sling58
09-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Heh! I would answer you this question but that would facilitate the need for post whoring/thread hijacking, which would almost assuradly bring about another idea/complaint. :lol: :lol:
j/k

Don't make me take away your internet priviledges.

Chiefster
09-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Don't make me take away your internet priviledges.

Do yer worst!!!

(Not really; just joking, I need my cable!!!)

swmochiefsfan
09-08-2007, 05:24 PM
With no shoes right?
we didnt know what shoes were in those days

Chiefster
09-08-2007, 05:30 PM
we didnt know what shoes were in those days

True; we used to tie animal skins to our feet, and that was for the rich folks.

swmochiefsfan
09-08-2007, 05:31 PM
True; we used to tie animal skins to our feet, and that was for the rich folks.



LOL:bananen_smilies046:

sling58
09-08-2007, 06:42 PM
True; we used to tie animal skins to our feet, and that was for the rich folks.

So what did you use? Tree bark for shoes?

:lol: :yahoo: :lol:

Chiefster
09-09-2007, 12:46 AM
So what did you use? Tree bark for shoes?

:lol: :yahoo: :lol:

No that was for the middle class. :D

sling58
09-09-2007, 08:51 AM
No that was for the middle class. :D

Oh I see must of used Chargers jerseys for wrapping around ur feet and Faders ones to whip your ...

rbedgood
09-09-2007, 12:40 PM
Oh I see must of used Chargers jerseys for wrapping around ur feet and Faders ones to whip your ...

TMI...

Chiefster
09-11-2007, 05:48 PM
Oh I see must of used Chargers jerseys for wrapping around ur feet and Faders ones to whip your ...


...what; whatever could you mean by this??? :rolleyes:

sling58
09-14-2007, 09:02 AM
...what; whatever could you mean by this??? :rolleyes:

I meant wipe!!! Sorry guys!

timbok
09-14-2007, 10:18 AM
ok..what does this have to do with anything..the preseason records

CHIEFCANNON
09-14-2007, 11:49 AM
Well, what isn't shown in the Pre-Season example is .... they had loosing records.... but, how many points did they score. I suspect that they probably out scored the Chiefs everyone of them compared to this season.
The Pre-Season Vanilla, has spilled over into Game 6 of the Pre-Season @ Chicago.
Let me know when it dosen't matter anymore.:anim-magicman: