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DC_Chiefsfan
03-16-2010, 01:26 PM
This is a good article I though everyone might enjoy. It also mentions something about Cassel's contract which I wasn't aware of. Drafting Claussen is definitely not out of the picture (don't misunderstand, I didn't say I wanted them to draft him).



How Wiegmann, Jones, and Potentially Lilja Shape the Chiefs' Draft (and What it Could Mean for Matt Cassel) - Arrowhead Pride (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/16/1371398/how-wiegmann-jones-and-potentially)

honda522
03-16-2010, 01:30 PM
We not going to draft a Qb this year..atleast maybe not until the end. I don't know why this keeps getting brought up. Oh the Chiefs are going to trade for Brady Quinn, oh the Chiefs are going to draft Jimmy Clausen.

What is next, were going to trade for McNabb?

Coach
03-16-2010, 01:37 PM
I don't know why anyone wants another qb. I couldn't be more proud of the toughness that Cassel showed last year. This guy is going to be great imo. Those that disagree are just wrong. J/k

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DC_Chiefsfan
03-16-2010, 02:26 PM
This "opt out" clause changes a lot of things in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we draft a Qb this year, whether its 5 overall (please don't do that Pioli) or one of our 5th round picks. No one ever said cassel wasn't tough, but he was the 25th best quarterback last year statistically. If he craps the bed this year, do you honestly think Pioli won't have a bright young qb with a year of learning Haley's/Weis' system under his belt ready to go? Croyle would not be that answer. He's had plenty of opportunities and if he'd made the best of them he would be starting. I honestly see us picking up a qb with one of our 5th rounders. If cassel blows it up this year (which I DO hope he does), then we only used a 5th round pick and have better depth at the qb position than guitierez

whatwasthat?
03-16-2010, 02:36 PM
We not going to draft a Qb this year..atleast maybe not until the end. I don't know why this keeps getting brought up. Oh the Chiefs are going to trade for Brady Quinn, oh the Chiefs are going to draft Jimmy Clausen.

What is next, were going to trade for McNabb?

ive heard that one already

oh and mike vick too

Chiefster
03-17-2010, 01:42 AM
I don't know why anyone wants another qb. I couldn't be more proud of the toughness that Cassel showed last year. This guy is going to be great imo. Those that disagree are just wrong. J/k

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Yup! Cassel's number #1, Croyle's #2; I don't see that changing unless they bring in another QB to compete for the number two guy.

Hayvern
03-17-2010, 04:36 PM
Good grief, I am sick of reading articles from numbskulls who think that we are at some point going to draft this hot shot quarterback. Are you guys a bunch of ten year olds?

We have Cassel, even if Cassel improves to 23rd best in the league, he will get another shot. I expect more from him personally once our receivers learn to catch the ball.

Cassel is not a terrible QB, I think he has the potential to lead this team to greatness. I want to see what he can do now with the people he has around him. He was certainly an improvement over Croyle.

Anyone notice we have not resigned Croyle yet? We have Gutierrez, but not Croyle. Croyle is a second round tender right now and no one is picking up on him. Probably he would have been safe as a third round tender.

Anyway, I don't see this as make or break for Cassel, I think ultimately Cassel is our guy for the forseeable future. We have plenty of holes to fill before we need to start thinking QB!

AkChief49
03-17-2010, 05:57 PM
Good grief, I am sick of reading articles from numbskulls who think that we are at some point going to draft this hot shot quarterback. Are you guys a bunch of ten year olds?

We have Cassel, even if Cassel improves to 23rd best in the league, he will get another shot. I expect more from him personally once our receivers learn to catch the ball.

Cassel is not a terrible QB, I think he has the potential to lead this team to greatness. I want to see what he can do now with the people he has around him. He was certainly an improvement over Croyle.

Anyone notice we have not resigned Croyle yet? We have Gutierrez, but not Croyle. Croyle is a second round tender right now and no one is picking up on him. Probably he would have been safe as a third round tender.

Anyway, I don't see this as make or break for Cassel, I think ultimately Cassel is our guy for the forseeable future. We have plenty of holes to fill before we need to start thinking QB!
Very true. I admit I was not on the Cassel express before last season. He showed toughness I did not think he had(he survived our oline last year!). I do believe we were the #1 spot for dropped passes? I'll look further, but I had read that somewhere. Where would that have put him had some of those very catch able balls been pulled in? You look at some of those stats and not very much separates one guy from the next.

AussieChiefsFan
03-17-2010, 06:00 PM
Good grief, I am sick of reading articles from numbskulls who think that we are at some point going to draft this hot shot quarterback. Are you guys a bunch of ten year olds?

We have Cassel, even if Cassel improves to 23rd best in the league, he will get another shot. I expect more from him personally once our receivers learn to catch the ball.

Cassel is not a terrible QB, I think he has the potential to lead this team to greatness. I want to see what he can do now with the people he has around him. He was certainly an improvement over Croyle.

Anyone notice we have not resigned Croyle yet? We have Gutierrez, but not Croyle. Croyle is a second round tender right now and no one is picking up on him. Probably he would have been safe as a third round tender.

Anyway, I don't see this as make or break for Cassel, I think ultimately Cassel is our guy for the forseeable future. We have plenty of holes to fill before we need to start thinking QB!
Yeah, I mean he was playing well its just all the drops. EEEEhhhhh!

jacko58
03-17-2010, 07:57 PM
We not going to draft a Qb this year..atleast maybe not until the end. I don't know why this keeps getting brought up. Oh the Chiefs are going to trade for Brady Quinn, oh the Chiefs are going to draft Jimmy Clausen.

What is next, were going to trade for McNabb?

dude i don't know if ya know but this is a forum, during a off season, were gonna talk about anything and everything, until we can say were contenders year in and year out i say no position is safe yes i love cassel but not enough to say no to any other qb there is

:chiefs: :meow: :chiefs:

AkChief49
03-17-2010, 11:16 PM
Ok I found something to back up my previous statement about dropped passes. we in fact did lead the league in this category.
washingtonpost.com (http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232)

27 drops between Bowe(11) Bradley(9) and Wade(7) I'm sure there were a few others. But the real problem on Cassels' stat. line is yds/comp.= 5.9. Anyway, rounding the dropped balls to 30 and keeping the 5.9 per completion his woulda-coulda-shoulda completion rate goes to 60.85 and his QB rating would go to 76.4- roughly. I'm glad to see the management addressing the o-line, but I say if(fat chance) Okung is there take him, and at minimum take a o-lineman with one of two 2nd rnd picks. Our line looks good on paper now, but we need to keep the pipeline full. Waters will not be there much longer. Wiegmann is no spring chicken either. Love to have him back though

hometeam
03-17-2010, 11:22 PM
Im not a fan of cassel, havent been since before he arrived. that being said, they didnt pay him like they did so he can be replaced in his second year. Cassel is our QB, regardless of his ability or lack thereof.

Hayvern
03-23-2010, 04:27 PM
Ok I found something to back up my previous statement about dropped passes. we in fact did lead the league in this category.
washingtonpost.com (http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232)

27 drops between Bowe(11) Bradley(9) and Wade(7) I'm sure there were a few others. But the real problem on Cassels' stat. line is yds/comp.= 5.9. Anyway, rounding the dropped balls to 30 and keeping the 5.9 per completion his woulda-coulda-shoulda completion rate goes to 60.85 and his QB rating would go to 76.4- roughly. I'm glad to see the management addressing the o-line, but I say if(fat chance) Okung is there take him, and at minimum take a o-lineman with one of two 2nd rnd picks. Our line looks good on paper now, but we need to keep the pipeline full. Waters will not be there much longer. Wiegmann is no spring chicken either. Love to have him back though

Yeah, we led the league in dropped passes but ut was more like 48 according to this site:

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?year=&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232

Part of Cassel's short completion rating comes from the fact that he had dump the ball off to his safety valve so many times. Then considering most of these guys couldn't run past a yard when they caught it, there was very little yards after catch which I think we were 26th.

slimdagreat
03-23-2010, 05:04 PM
why would the team invest $63 Million in Cassel and then draft a 1st round QB that's going to cost twice that?