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Pro_Angler
03-18-2010, 12:14 AM
Just heard on NFL network..Berry is working out for KC today...woot...

honda522
03-18-2010, 12:16 AM
Thats good. If Berry doesn't fall to us, then Earl Thomas from Texas might be avalible. Texas!

hometeam
03-18-2010, 12:34 AM
Woops

70 chiefsfan70
03-18-2010, 08:50 AM
I just don't think we can go wrong with Berry!!!

Sure we'd have to pay him big, but no matter who we get will get that same size check, and is there any one else more likely to help the team more..........I wouldn't know who.



I would also be ok with Okung, or McClain.

bwilliams
03-18-2010, 11:54 AM
I just don't think we can go wrong with Berry!!!

Sure we'd have to pay him big, but no matter who we get will get that same size check, and is there any one else more likely to help the team more..........I wouldn't know who.



I would also be ok with Okung, or McClain.

Not McClain. ILBs are a dime a dozen. We can get one of almost equal value in the 2nd or 3rd.

Berry just makes an incredible and obvious amount of sense for this team. I think we draft him or trade down. No other options.

SAPHOJUNKIE
03-18-2010, 04:48 PM
At the fifth pick, Berry would command 11 mil a year, making him BY FAR the highest paid safety in the league, never having played a snap.

Why is that a problem, you ask? Well, because we still have to pay the other positions.

You wouldn't pay as much for your cell phone as you do for your car, would you? if you did, you wouldn't be able to afford your car (left tackle). even if its a reeeeeeeaally good phone.

AussieChiefsFan
03-18-2010, 05:03 PM
ERIC BERRY!!
:yahoo: :yahoo: :bananen_smilies046: :chiefs: :sign0087:

kcmostwanted
03-18-2010, 05:06 PM
Not McClain. ILBs are a dime a dozen. We can get one of almost equal value in the 2nd or 3rd.

Berry just makes an incredible and obvious amount of sense for this team. I think we draft him or trade down. No other options.

ILB are a dime a dozen???
I'll probably put as much value on my ILB as I do my Safety...

I mean honestly, I know Berry is projected to be a very good NFL safety but giving him a 40-50 million dollar contract is hard to Justify...Berry WILL BE the highest paid Safety in the LEAGUE if we draft him...

I don't know if he's the answer to our problems on D...I think everything starts up front:
-No pressure
-Horrible at stopping the run

Which makes our DB's look bad. Now, I'm not saying we draft a NT to stop the run... I just think...like what someone posted above (comparing the phone and the car), we need to get the most value out of this pick as possible... and that pick is not Safety at no. 5

THAT BEING SAID... I'M ALMOST CONFIDENT SCOTT AND TODD WON'T PICK BERRY W/ THE 5TH. I know they're keeping their options open [in case we trade down]... We have way too many needs on the Oline and Dline + LBs for them to justify spending that much money on a safety...just my opinion

bwilliams
03-18-2010, 05:13 PM
At the fifth pick, Berry would command 11 mil a year, making him BY FAR the highest paid safety in the league, never having played a snap.

Why is that a problem, you ask? Well, because we still have to pay the other positions.

You wouldn't pay as much for your cell phone as you do for your car, would you? if you did, you wouldn't be able to afford your car (left tackle). even if its a reeeeeeeaally good phone.

Well, that's true in a way. But we're going to have to make *someone* the (or one of the) highest paid players at their position, whether it's Berry, Okung, McClain, or Williams. And I think picking Berry fills a need (DB leader and playmaker) that we can't fill elsewhere. Cam Thomas and Mount Cody will be there at the top of the 2nd, as will several great ILBs and OTs.

Anyway, I think we end up trading down (Redskins signing Grossman means they probably don't take a QB in the 1st, and instead take McCoy, Suh, or Okung) with some team who wants Clausen (maybe the Seahawks at 6, Browns at 7, Bills at 9, or Jags at 10). If we trade down, I think we get Dez Bryant or Dan Williams.

bwilliams
03-18-2010, 05:16 PM
ILB are a dime a dozen???
I'll probably put as much value on my ILB as I do my Safety...

I mean honestly, I know Berry is projected to be a very good NFL safety but giving him a 40-50 million dollar contract is hard to Justify...Berry WILL BE the highest paid Safety in the LEAGUE if we draft him...

I don't know if he's the answer to our problems on D...I think everything starts up front:
-No pressure
-Horrible at stopping the run

Which makes our DB's look bad. Now, I'm not saying we draft a NT to stop the run... I just think...like what someone posted above (comparing the phone and the car), we need to get the most value out of this pick as possible... and that pick is not Safety at no. 5

THAT BEING SAID... I'M ALMOST CONFIDENT SCOTT AND TODD WON'T PICK BERRY W/ THE 5TH. I know they're keeping their options open [in case we trade down]... We have way too many needs on the Oline and Dline + LBs for them to justify spending that much money on a safety...just my opinion

Well, as I wrote in my last post, I think Berry's impact on the team (a legitimate leader/force in the defensive backfield) is something we won't be able to find later in the draft. I think Okung will be gone by 5, either to the Skins or Lions, and none of the other OT, including Baluga, are 5th pick material. And we can get a guy as good as Dan Williams in Cam Thomas in the 2nd.

EDIT: And by "dime a dozen" I meant that there's usually little difference between a ILB picked in the 1st and 3rd. It makes no sense to draft one that high when we can get comparable talent in FA or much later in the draft.

honda522
03-18-2010, 08:30 PM
At the fifth pick, Berry would command 11 mil a year, making him BY FAR the highest paid safety in the league, never having played a snap.

Why is that a problem, you ask? Well, because we still have to pay the other positions.

You wouldn't pay as much for your cell phone as you do for your car, would you? if you did, you wouldn't be able to afford your car (left tackle). even if its a reeeeeeeaally good phone.

You may be right, and as I don't agree with a player making so much before they even play a snap, there are no restricts by the NFL.

But in this case, Your going to have to shell out money to any pick at number, any player can be a sleeper just as any player can be a buster. Saftey is a great pick, most play the same thing they did in college so there is not much difference in them.

Ryfo18
03-18-2010, 11:34 PM
You may be right, and as I don't agree with a player making so much before they even play a snap, there are no restricts by the NFL.

But in this case, Your going to have to shell out money to any pick at number, any player can be a sleeper just as any player can be a buster. Saftey is a great pick, most play the same thing they did in college so there is not much difference in them.

Yeah, it's not like we got a discount last year when we took Jackson at #3, even though he was projected mid to late 1st round. He still got 3rd pick money. They really need to limit rookie salaries, especially in a league that has a salary cap. A lot of these rookies make 2-3 times more than veteran pro bowlers at the same position.

whatwasthat?
03-18-2010, 11:36 PM
agreed on the rookie cap

Coach
03-18-2010, 11:42 PM
If there were a rookie cap, this draft wouldn't be nearly so laoded. Many guys came out early because they know that a rookie pay scale will be part of the next collective bargaining agreement.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm in favor of a rookie pay scale as well. The fans are the people most hurt by what is going on.

The amount of money it takes for a family of 4 to see a Chiefs game is sickening. It's gotten way out of control. Meanwhile, owners and players are fighting over who gets more millions.:meow:

Ryfo18
03-18-2010, 11:45 PM
It's so backwards...Only in the NFL do "new employees" get Executive level pay.

jason1981
03-18-2010, 11:57 PM
you cant blame the players though. ITs the owners who keeps on willing to pay them the mega bucks. but now there finally doing something about it. i dont blame the owners for ending the collective bargaining agreement. but now they need to settle it.

josh1971
03-19-2010, 02:55 PM
This stuff reminds me of the Aaron Curry fervor :D

I hope we get Berry, but I'm waiting for that announcement I've gotten used to over the years....


"And with the fifth selection of the 2010 draft, the Kansas City Chiefs take Herman Lifschitz, Running Back, Northeast Missouri School of Beauty"


:D

yashi
03-19-2010, 03:09 PM
This stuff reminds me of the Aaron Curry fervor :D

I hope we get Berry, but I'm waiting for that announcement I've gotten used to over the years....


"And with the fifth selection of the 2010 draft, the Kansas City Chiefs take Herman Lifschitz, Running Back, Northeast Missouri School of Beauty"


:D

:lol:

Yep, which is why I'm keeping myself open this year to several guys. I'm pretty sure the pick is going to be Bulaga or Berry, but who knows.

jacko58
03-19-2010, 03:44 PM
who ever we draft is gonna demand top dollars im not gonna say dont draft berry because hes gonna demand top bucks cause every rookies gonna demand top dollars

okikcfan
03-19-2010, 06:13 PM
As we have seen in past years we never know who the teams before us will pick, it's all a guessing game. I could see Pioli trading back a few spots if it gives us a good return. I don't see us trading up, the cost would be too high unless we got lucky. Pioli has done well IMO so far in the FA market. With the new coaching staff and the players that have been added, it's a big step up. To me, coaching is everything. No matter who we get, they will demand big bucks, rookie caps, heck yea I'm all for it. The question is, is the one we get really worth it, a few spots back could save us alot of money, not that the money is a big deal, the browns spent more on three players during FA than the Chiefs did on there entire team. This has to be a make it or break it year for Dorsey, Bowe, albert, Jackson and so on. Tho we still have alot of issues, I'm hope this will be the start of a great season. I cant handle too many more disappointing years.

Canada
03-19-2010, 06:39 PM
If there were a rookie cap, this draft wouldn't be nearly so laoded. Many guys came out early because they know that a rookie pay scale will be part of the next collective bargaining agreement.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm in favor of a rookie pay scale as well. The fans are the people most hurt by what is going on.

The amount of money it takes for a family of 4 to see a Chiefs game is sickening. It's gotten way out of control. Meanwhile, owners and players are fighting over who gets more millions.:meow:

I have decided that I am not bringing my family to KC this year for that reason. 4 days in KC is gong to cost me the same as going to Disneyland for 8 days all included.

buffman316
03-19-2010, 07:09 PM
I have been on the Berry Bandwagon for a long time. Let's get this playmaker!

AussieChiefsFan
03-19-2010, 07:20 PM
I have been on the Berry Bandwagon for a long time. Let's get this playmaker!
:bananen_smilies046:

Pro_Angler
03-20-2010, 12:15 AM
I can see the chiefs picking up berry then trading back into rd 1 to get a NT or something.

Ryfo18
03-20-2010, 04:27 AM
I can see the chiefs picking up berry then trading back into rd 1 to get a NT or something.

That's something I never considered, but I would love it.

70 chiefsfan70
03-20-2010, 08:54 AM
I can see the chiefs picking up berry then trading back into rd 1 to get a NT or something.

I could see the CHIEFS trading out of the fifth and get a first and second round picks, therefor picking a NT in the first and a S in the second.

Even though I'm on the Berry Train, it would actually make more sense (dollar wise) to trade out of the fifth spot if Suh or Clausen is still there.

70 chiefsfan70
03-20-2010, 09:04 AM
If there were a rookie cap, this draft wouldn't be nearly so laoded. Many guys came out early because they know that a rookie pay scale will be part of the next collective bargaining agreement.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm in favor of a rookie pay scale as well. The fans are the people most hurt by what is going on.

The amount of money it takes for a family of 4 to see a Chiefs game is sickening. It's gotten way out of control. Meanwhile, owners and players are fighting over who gets more millions.:meow:


I agree, I've got 4 kids, 2 boys ages 13 and 11 that eat, sleep, breathe,and play football and I can't afford to take the them to see their favorite team play.

KCINNYC
03-20-2010, 10:38 AM
This stuff reminds me of the Aaron Curry fervor :D

I hope we get Berry, but I'm waiting for that announcement I've gotten used to over the years....


"And with the fifth selection of the 2010 draft, the Kansas City Chiefs take Herman Lifschitz, Running Back, Northeast Missouri School of Beauty"


:D

The genius and utter reality of this post gives me the willies...

So many times....

tornadospotter
03-20-2010, 12:35 PM
I have decided that I am not bringing my family to KC this year for that reason. 4 days in KC is gong to cost me the same as going to Disneyland for 8 days all included.

Me to!! But then my wife changed my mind.:efpge: