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Coach
03-23-2010, 07:51 PM
Read Article Here... (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14898&Itemid=2)

AussieChiefsFan
03-23-2010, 08:51 PM
Eric berry....

mfainter
03-23-2010, 10:49 PM
My vote's gotta go to Chad Jones. We need a Strong Safety. I don't think Eric Berry will be a good NFL strong safety. Plus if we can snag Chad Jones in the early 3rd, it'd be a steal.

AussieChiefsFan
03-24-2010, 01:25 AM
My vote's gotta go to Chad Jones. We need a Strong Safety. I don't think Eric Berry will be a good NFL strong safety. Plus if we can snag Chad Jones in the early 3rd, it'd be a steal.
YouTube- Eric Berry Highlights - The Incredible One

mfainter
03-24-2010, 10:52 PM
You posted a HIGHLIGHTS video, not an analysis or a highlights/lowlights video. Of course it's going to make him look like superman.

Bortnem
03-24-2010, 11:02 PM
Who would you have us take in the 1st round then mfainter?

fairladyZ
03-24-2010, 11:05 PM
well good think berry won't be a strong safety. He will be Free safety. Page would be our strong safety.

And watch any videos on Berry he does make mistakes but they are few and far between and he knows when he makes them and he works to improve. He is going to be a very good safety in the NFL. I say we take him at #5 for 100% sure. If all else fails we can move him to cornerback and have 2 shutdown corners. Carr will become nickel back, possible safety aswell.

AussieChiefsFan
03-25-2010, 01:48 AM
You posted a HIGHLIGHTS video, not an analysis or a highlights/lowlights video. Of course it's going to make him look like superman.
exactly!:D

stricken721
03-25-2010, 01:51 AM
If we had Superman we wouldn't need 52 other players or any coaches, think of the money the team would save!

Superman would be a steal at #5.

AussieChiefsFan
03-25-2010, 01:55 AM
If we had Superman we wouldn't need 52 other players or any coaches, think of the money the team would save!

Superman would be a steal at #5.Exactly my point!!!:D

stricken721
03-25-2010, 01:58 AM
Exactly my point!!!:D

I'm mostly being sarcastic. I could care less if we get Berry or not, doesn't matter to me who we draft though I do have my preferences. Just as long as whoever it is that we draft brings pride to the Chiefs colors and VICTORIES! :chiefs:

chief31
03-25-2010, 04:23 AM
well good think berry won't be a strong safety. He will be Free safety. Page would be our strong safety.

And watch any videos on Berry he does make mistakes but they are few and far between and he knows when he makes them and he works to improve. He is going to be a very good safety in the NFL. I say we take him at #5 for 100% sure. If all else fails we can move him to cornerback and have 2 shutdown corners. Carr will become nickel back, possible safety aswell.

If he were capable of being a "shutdown corner" then he would not be listed as a Safety, and he wouldn't have been playing Safety in school.

CB is a far more difficult position to fill than Safety. Old, and slow CBs become Safeties. Safeties do not become CBs.

AussieChiefsFan
03-25-2010, 04:40 AM
If he were capable of being a "shutdown corner" then he would not be listed as a Safety, and he wouldn't have been playing Safety in school.

CB is a far more difficult position to fill than Safety. Old, and slow CBs become Safeties. Safeties do not become CBs.
Correct. IMO Berry (no matter what team drafts him) will always be a great "safety", not a Cornerback.

fairladyZ
03-25-2010, 12:50 PM
Read up on him.. There is all kinds of talk from teams that want to turn him into a cornerback rather than a safety because of his ball skills.
Some people think it will happen some dont. All i'm saying is IF we do take him and he doesn't turn out, then there is always the possibilty of putting him at corner like ALOT of teams think they could do very easily.

Ryfo18
03-25-2010, 01:12 PM
Berry is simply the most highly touted safety in the draft, that doesn't mean a lot though. Taylor Mays entered the 2009 season as the "top" safety. There are still going to be some good safeties available in rounds 2-3, they just aren't as hyped as Berry.

mfainter
03-25-2010, 06:50 PM
If he were capable of being a "shutdown corner" then he would not be listed as a Safety, and he wouldn't have been playing Safety in school.

CB is a far more difficult position to fill than Safety. Old, and slow CBs become Safeties. Safeties do not become CBs.
I agree. I just don't think he can play the SS or CB position as a starter. Crennel would have to work with him, and develop him into a shut-down corner. I'm not saying i am completely dismissing drafting berry, i just think Strong Safety is a bigger need at the moment, and he's more of a FS. I'd really like to see if Dejuan Morgan can produce at the FS spot still. Any word on what Mike Brown is doing? I think he still has some left in the tank.


I'm mostly being sarcastic. I could care less if we get Berry or not, doesn't matter to me who we draft though I do have my preferences. Just as long as whoever it is that we draft brings pride to the Chiefs colors and VICTORIES! :chiefs:
THIS. There's alot of positions that we need. I wouldn't mind if it was a WR, LB, OT, S, or whatever. As long as they can produce and help this team progress, i'm on board. I trust Pioli and the coaching staff's decisions and feel they'll draft the player that will best help the team.

KristofLaw
03-29-2010, 03:28 AM
Berry is simply the most highly touted safety in the draft, that doesn't mean a lot though. Taylor Mays entered the 2009 season as the "top" safety. There are still going to be some good safeties available in rounds 2-3, they just aren't as hyped as Berry.

I agree on the quality not being solely on Berry. I am a huge proponent of Taylor Mays and his abilities. I just hope we land a Superstar at the position this season maybe even a development player such as Rolle.

70 chiefsfan70
03-29-2010, 09:38 AM
Berry is sooooo much more then a safety!!!!!

He is a leader!!!!

He is a role model!!

He his a momentum changer!

He is a Game changer!

He is a interception machine!

He is an inspiration to all he plays with!

He is respect getter to all offences!

He my Freinds, will be a chief!

Just think back, and ask yourselves,when was the last time the chiefs had a defense that made offenses change there strategy,

Go CHIEFS!!!!!!

70 chiefsfan70
03-29-2010, 09:46 AM
DID I mention he reads offenses better then most and is a don't miss tackling machine!

And NOOOO. before you ask,I'm not gay and he is not my boyfriend.

Just think he is a once in a lifetime player.

And REALLY don't want the Faiders or Donkeys getting him.

70 chiefsfan70
03-29-2010, 09:57 AM
And for the fans who don't want to pay Berry that kind of money......We could give it to some player like Bowe,Dorsey,or Jackson,

Bowe may never be more then average, he has to improve to do that.

Dorsey will never be average in a 3 4 defense (could be good in a 4 3 though)

Jackson (too soon to tell) but appears to be average or slightly above.

All of them got huge dollars,
Do we want another normal high priced player or do we want the best MAN for the TEAM???

yashi
03-29-2010, 11:48 AM
If he were capable of being a "shutdown corner" then he would not be listed as a Safety, and he wouldn't have been playing Safety in school.

CB is a far more difficult position to fill than Safety. Old, and slow CBs become Safeties. Safeties do not become CBs.

Asomugha was a safety in college I think.

TheLateGreat#58Fan
03-29-2010, 07:31 PM
If he were capable of being a "shutdown corner" then he would not be listed as a Safety, and he wouldn't have been playing Safety in school.

CB is a far more difficult position to fill than Safety. Old, and slow CBs become Safeties. Safeties do not become CBs.

Are we familiar with a young man named Nnamdi Asomugha thats exactly what he did.

matthewschiefs
03-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Are we familiar with a young man named Nnamdi Asomugha thats exactly what he did.

I dont think Asomugha is a shut down corner. Just my opinion, if you go back and watch our games against the Raiders we went after him and had some plays on him. I just don't see him as a shut down corner right now. Maybe its just becuse hes a raider. :chiefs:

chief31
03-29-2010, 08:44 PM
Are we familiar with a young man named Nnamdi Asomugha thats exactly what he did.

It wouldn't be a rule, without exceptions.

But it is not wise to use your top pick on a player that some specualte could possible play position A.

If you draft a CB, then draft a CB, not a Safety.

Occaisionally a OG manages to convert to play LOT. But that is the exception. The rule is that you draft an OT and, if nothing else, he can easily be converted to playing the far easier position of OG.

LOT is a far more difficult position to master than OG, just like CB is a far more difficult position to master than S.

So, unless we feel that he is the top CB prospect in the draft, and that CB is a position in that kind of need, then we would be drafting for a second-tier position with the #5 overall pick.

honda522
03-29-2010, 09:32 PM
You posted a HIGHLIGHTS video, not an analysis or a highlights/lowlights video. Of course it's going to make him look like superman.
Its alot to make a highlight reel. What is the point of a two min 1? Most are atleast 3 1/2 mins. Takes alot of clips to make 3 min + worth.

stricken721
03-29-2010, 09:44 PM
And for the fans who don't want to pay Berry that kind of money......We could give it to some player like Bowe,Dorsey,or Jackson,

Bowe may never be more then average, he has to improve to do that.

Dorsey will never be average in a 3 4 defense (could be good in a 4 3 though)

Jackson (too soon to tell) but appears to be average or slightly above.

All of them got huge dollars,
Do we want another normal high priced player or do we want the best MAN for the TEAM???

Is he a man among boys when it comes to the rest of the Chiefs players? Is he going to be the only one that will make it where we win games? If we pass on Eric Berry or is drafted before us is the Chiefs organization as we know it guaranteed a certain death?

Like I have said before.. If Berry is the guy, or isn't the guy doesn't matter. As long as whoever we pick helps the team to win games and brings pride to the colors and wants to be a Chief, he deserves a place on this team. But we have to remember every rookie (including Berry) is unproven in the NFL.

TheLateGreat#58Fan
03-30-2010, 07:45 PM
It comes down to do you think he is a game changing playmaker?
Do you think he can be an Ed Reed or Troy Palamolu?
I live down here in SEC country and have seen him play often, he is a playmaker. Somebody made the reference that Taylor Mays was the top safety last year, underminding what Berry has done. Mays was a top safety purely on measurables, Berry makes plays in the toughest division in college football.

Whoever we draft as long as they help us win I am down. I would just like to see some swagger in this defense, its been a while.

70 chiefsfan70
03-30-2010, 09:16 PM
Is he a man among boys when it comes to the rest of the Chiefs players? Is he going to be the only one that will make it where we win games? If we pass on Eric Berry or is drafted before us is the Chiefs organization as we know it guaranteed a certain death?

Like I have said before.. If Berry is the guy, or isn't the guy doesn't matter. As long as whoever we pick helps the team to win games and brings pride to the colors and wants to be a Chief, he deserves a place on this team. But we have to remember every rookie (including Berry) is unproven in the NFL.


Certainly you have a good point, everyone drafted in unproven,its a chance teams have to take.
I think we all know the Ryan Leaf and the Tom Brady stories.

Whoever we pick will get the same check.Therefore the pick needs to fill the biggest need per money spent to benefit the chiefs.

IMO Berry is the best safe pick at the five spot to fill the needs of the chiefs.

Superbowl teams are built from the draft, just not from the top ten picks!

As much as I like Berry I'd rather we traded out of the five spot and got a couple extra less expensive picks as this draft is very deep in most positions.

stricken721
03-30-2010, 09:28 PM
Certainly you have a good point, everyone drafted in unproven,its a chance teams have to take.
I think we all know the Ryan Leaf and the Tom Brady stories.

Whoever we pick will get the same check.Therefore the pick needs to fill the biggest need per money spent to benefit the chiefs.

IMO Berry is the best safe pick at the five spot to fill the needs of the chiefs.

Superbowl teams are built from the draft, just not from the top ten picks!

As much as I like Berry I'd rather we traded out of the five spot and got a couple extra less expensive picks as this draft is very deep in most positions.

That's really the best thing to do. Sorry if my post seemed like an attack on you I just don't understand some people falling in love with a guy who will probably not be on this team. We have seen in recent years that 2nd round and 3rd round picks are valuable to teams, the Chiefs have seen it too with Brandon Flowers and Jamaal Charles. Heck.. this draft is so deep that I don't think I would have any objection to not even having a 1st round pick just stock pile on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks. When it comes to a safety there are guys who could be a starter equal or possibly better than Eric Berry at the professional level, but that remains to be seen since none of them have played any NFL games.