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pbatrucker
03-25-2010, 01:01 PM
Andy Studebaker Could Surprise In 2010 | Arrowhead Addict | A Kansas City Chiefs blog (http://bleacherreport.com/tb/a3qxQ)

honda522
03-25-2010, 01:29 PM
I am not sure if he would be good as a starter.

pbatrucker
03-25-2010, 01:34 PM
I am not sure if he would be good as a starter.
I think he needs another year with Vrabel, but he could be very good in our system. Pendegrast didn't use him as a pass rusher too often. I couldn't understand why. He did show some potential in that area in preseason.

KottkeKU
03-25-2010, 03:12 PM
i think Jereme (sp?) Urban, the new receiver we signed could really surprise some people if anyone.

I hope Studebaker does well, i can see him filling in admirably for the last half of the season once Vrabel gets injured again...

yashi
03-25-2010, 03:14 PM
I think he needs another year with Vrabel, but he could be very good in our system. Pendegrast didn't use him as a pass rusher too often. I couldn't understand why. He did show some potential in that area in preseason.

I always thought it was strange how little the LOLB was called upon to rush the passer in general last season. The whole beauty of the 3-4 is that the pass rush is unpredictable. Leave it to Clancy Pendergast to make it predictable: Hali rushes, Vrabel/Studebaker drop back.

brish
03-25-2010, 03:41 PM
Leave it to Clancy Pendergast to make it predictable: Hali rushes, Vrabel/Studebaker drop back.

:lol:

Almost made me spill my drink all over my self. :)

I don't think Vrabel has the speed or power to rush effectively anymore, which is why i hope they dial his snaps down a little this year and let Studebaker (or Derrick Morgan???) play more.
Don't get me wrong I have a huge amount of respect for Vrabel, and im glad he is a chief, but I thought he looked slow, especially at the end of the season, last year.

He is still a good football player though, but it is more because of his experience and good technique..

What do you guys think?

yashi
03-25-2010, 05:05 PM
:lol:

Almost made me spill my drink all over my self. :)

I don't think Vrabel has the speed or power to rush effectively anymore, which is why i hope they dial his snaps down a little this year and let Studebaker (or Derrick Morgan???) play more.
Don't get me wrong I have a huge amount of respect for Vrabel, and im glad he is a chief, but I thought he looked slow, especially at the end of the season, last year.

He is still a good football player though, but it is more because of his experience and good technique..

What do you guys think?

:D

I definitely agree. Vrabel looked extremely slow with little explosiveness. A pass-rusher, be it a situational guy or full-time eventual replacement for Vrabel, is very high on my list of draft priorities.

brish
03-25-2010, 05:38 PM
Just read that scouting report on Studebaker.. Lots of praise!
Im looking forward to see him play this season.

matthewschiefs
03-25-2010, 05:52 PM
he could turn out to be a very good player to have on this team. I look forward to seeing him play as he gets more and more time on the field. We might have something in him.

buffman316
03-25-2010, 06:05 PM
Funny, I was thinking this same thing today. It was really good that Mike Vrabel came back bcause his leadership had a good impact on Andy. We saw flashes of that last year for sure.
:chiefs:

pbatrucker
03-25-2010, 06:14 PM
When Studebaker started against SD last year I made a post about how mad I was that Pendegrast hadn't attacked the rookie RT the chargers started that game. Not once did we try rushing the QB from that side.

yashi
03-25-2010, 06:22 PM
When Studebaker started against SD last year I made a post about how mad I was that Pendegrast hadn't attacked the rookie RT the chargers started that game. Not once did we try rushing the QB from that side.

He's too busy shooting the gaps with Mike Brown, leaving Vincent Jackson 40 yards downfield 1 on 1 with Brandon Flowers. Luckily, Flowers is the man and can somehow cover a guy 8 inches taller than him.

mfainter
03-25-2010, 07:00 PM
I think he needs another year with Vrabel, but he could be very good in our system. Pendegrast didn't use him as a pass rusher too often. I couldn't understand why. He did show some potential in that area in preseason.
If Studebaker is getting his mentoring from Vrabel, that's great, he's not going to find a better teacher. Especially working within the Pioli/Crennel system. From what i saw of studebaker last year, he's definatly got the drive to be a good player in our scheme.


:D

I definitely agree. Vrabel looked extremely slow with little explosiveness. A pass-rusher, be it a situational guy or full-time eventual replacement for Vrabel, is very high on my list of draft priorities.
This is exactly why i think we need to move Vrabel to the ILB position. He won't need as much speed to pass rush, and he's still got enough reaction time to stuff the run. Plus, the MIKE/ILB position act's somewhat as a Defensive on-field captain and i definatly think he could fill that role.

yashi
03-25-2010, 07:58 PM
This is exactly why i think we need to move Vrabel to the ILB position. He won't need as much speed to pass rush, and he's still got enough reaction time to stuff the run. Plus, the MIKE/ILB position act's somewhat as a Defensive on-field captain and i definatly think he could fill that role.

True that. Vrabel is still a stud against the run. That can't be said about many people on the team.

hometeam
03-26-2010, 01:19 AM
I didnt read through this thread, but when STUDebaker winds up being the STUD that he is, just remember I was the first one to say STUDebaker!!

::PP

YZILLA
03-26-2010, 03:48 PM
I want a Studebaker jersey ! Hope they make them available without me having to custom order one.
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mfainter
03-26-2010, 07:50 PM
It shouldn't be any more than a regular one if you order off nfl shop. In fact, when you do a custom jersey, you have the option to get ANY player on the chiefs roster. I got a Charles - Dallas Texans jersey on it's way. Pretty happy too, got it for 65.99 on NFL shop.

KottkeKU
03-26-2010, 08:35 PM
eww the dallas texans jersey : /

Why not the traditional lol. I could go for a colquitt no.2 in away white next (now that im in Denver i need to get me an away jersey for mile high). i already got me a 72 dorsey in home red.... got a bunch of comments on it too when i first got it (like a week after he was drafted)

GO CHIEFS. Love our jerseys. very classy.

Coach
03-27-2010, 11:30 AM
This is exactly why i think we need to move Vrabel to the ILB position. He won't need as much speed to pass rush, and he's still got enough reaction time to stuff the run. Plus, the MIKE/ILB position act's somewhat as a Defensive on-field captain and i definatly think he could fill that role.

I'd love to hear others thoughts on this as well. I think Vrabel could be a great short term solution at ILB. I have to imagine that if the Chiefs pass on McClain the first round and take a guy like Hughes out of TCU in the 2nd round that this will be the plan. I've seen several mocks that us taking Hughes.
That would make our possible LB crew look like:
Hughes(2nd rd)OLB
Mike Vrabel/Williams/Mays-MLB
DJ(1st rd)-MLB
Hali(1st)-OLB

Add that to 2, possibly 3 first rounders on the DL and suddenly this team has a trememndous amount of talent in the front 7.

I'm liking this idea a lot.


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chief31
03-27-2010, 04:32 PM
I'd love to hear others thoughts on this as well. I think Vrabel could be a great short term solution at ILB. I have to imagine that if the Chiefs pass on McClain the first round and take a guy like Hughes out of TCU in the 2nd round that this will be the plan. I've seen several mocks that us taking Hughes.
That would make our possible LB crew look like:
Hughes(2nd rd)OLB
Mike Vrabel/Williams/Mays-MLB
DJ(1st rd)-MLB
Hali(1st)-OLB

Add that to 2, possibly 3 first rounders on the DL and suddenly this team has a trememndous amount of talent in the front 7.

I'm liking this idea a lot.


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Basically, isn't there already a ton of talent in that front seven?

We have four 1st round picks there now, while the front six of the offense have one (Playing a position experimentally), with scarcely another player that was drafted at all.

I have been hoping for a very long time that The Chiefs would stop leaving the core of the offense to late round picks and undrafted players.

But the signing of Lilja, who hasn't had to perform too highly in his job, gives me the impression that the trend will continue.

But I will continue to hope anyway.

I mean, hey, throwing an endless line of high draft picks at the defense hasn't helped. Might as well just keep with that system.

pbatrucker
03-27-2010, 05:56 PM
I posted last season that Vrabel had lost a step and they should think about moving him inside. I don't know if he would want to make that move, but since he is a great team player it shouldn't be a problem.

Boobcrack
03-29-2010, 05:49 PM
I would love for Studebaker to turn into the next Vrabel or Teddy Bruschi. I guess time will tell.

matthewschiefs
03-29-2010, 08:24 PM
I would love for Studebaker to turn into the next Vrabel or Teddy Bruschi. I guess time will tell.

He has Vrabel there to teach Him I am sure that will help. It would be nice to have a guy play like one of them. I hope so to.

Bike
03-30-2010, 12:00 AM
I would love for Studebaker to turn into the next Vrabel or Teddy Bruschi. I guess time will tell.
I think he'll improve - along with the rest of the defense - under Crennel...