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AussieChiefsFan
08-19-2010, 07:07 AM
Discussion and Casual conversations relating to Chiefs @ Bucs!

GO CHIEFS!!!!:chiefs:

Chiefster
08-19-2010, 10:09 AM
Wow! Way to get an early start Aussie! :D

Ummmmmmmmm, Go Chiefs???

yashi
08-19-2010, 10:22 AM
We get to see our old friend Ryan Sims this week. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he's still terrible.

buffman316
08-19-2010, 11:23 AM
We get to see our old friend Ryan Sims this week. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he's still terrible.

Wow, I forgot about Sims. That is a bad memory for sure! I hope JC knocks him over on his way to a score. Watching Sims flop around all over the place is something that I am sure Buc's fans are getting sick of like we did. Hopefully the first team offense has a little more creative scheme to move the ball this weekend. The Chiefs need a good showing for a good, well deserved confidence boost!

#58ChiefsFan
08-19-2010, 02:27 PM
Haley has stated more time for the starters this week, hopefully we will get an idea of what we have going on this year.

Chief Tyler
08-19-2010, 02:49 PM
Sims won't be on the field with Charles, and if he is, the Bucs are a lot worse than I give them credit for. However, I do hope Charles runs circles around their d-end Stylez (surprisingly his birth name was a very respectable Gregory).

LargoChief
08-20-2010, 10:18 PM
The game is blacked out here. can't watch it until sunday at 11am.

matthewschiefs
08-20-2010, 11:08 PM
Wow! Way to get an early start Aussie! :D

Ummmmmmmmm, Go Chiefs???

Ummmmmmmmm, Go Chiefs

Go Chiefs Indeed :bananen_smilies046: :chiefs:

kcnation
08-21-2010, 12:34 AM
Haley has stated more time for the starters this week, hopefully we will get an idea of what we have going on this year.




if thats the case then we will see just what we are dealing with this year.i have not seen them play as yet but i don't think they got any better on defense in the front 7,hope i am wrong,guess we shall see....GO CHIEFS

Chiefster
08-21-2010, 12:35 AM
Ummmmmmmmm, Go Chiefs

Go Chiefs Indeed :bananen_smilies046: :chiefs:

Yes, indeed. :D

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 02:20 AM
checked nfl network they arent even showing a replay this weekend at all..

stricken721
08-21-2010, 03:08 AM
checked nfl network they arent even showing a replay this weekend at all..

Yeah.. Mine shows Monday.

yashi
08-21-2010, 10:44 AM
you guys should be able to stream on atdhe.net/index.html

KCINNYC
08-21-2010, 11:41 AM
The game is blacked out here. can't watch it until sunday at 11am.

by the start of the game, someone usually has found a link that is streaming the game.

Go Chiefs! I hope Cassel comes out strong.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 12:15 PM
you guys should be able to stream on atdhe.net/index.html
It does show that they are scheduled to play it here. I have watched many things from this site. Most of the time the picture and quality is perfectly fine. Once in a while it gets a little choppy but it hasn't been very often.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 12:23 PM
yea atdhe shows it to be played

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 12:41 PM
It will air on the NFL Network on Monday morning at 10am in Arizona.

tornadospotter
08-21-2010, 02:48 PM
I will not be able to find the link, to pass on, or even listen to the game. We have a welcome home from Iraq party tonight. Our Amber is home from her second tour of duty, in Iraq. We love her like she is our daughter. Amber is my daughter's, wski girl's, best friend and a was a brides maid at her wedding.


Sorry that I will not be able to help anyone with links.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 02:48 PM
It will air on the NFL Network on Monday morning at 10am in Arizona.

Sucks since the game is today! Were the last to be shown! I wish we turn this around soon do we aren't getting linked each week by the networks!!!!

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:30 PM
Ok I'm here for most of the first half, anybody else around?

fairladyZ
08-21-2010, 08:32 PM
Anyone have a stream? the one above doesn't seem to be working for me for some reason

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:36 PM
I can't find anything, so I'm listening to it on 101.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 08:37 PM
channel name - Zonein (http://www.zonein.tv/60925)

Its the bucs feed but its something I guess.

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:39 PM
channel name - Zonein (http://www.zonein.tv/60925)

Its the bucs feed but its something I guess.

Thanks :bananen_smilies046:

rodu
08-21-2010, 08:42 PM
well that's not a good start

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:42 PM
Well... That drive was awesome.

fairladyZ
08-21-2010, 08:42 PM
Thank you.


and TJ fumble.. Fail

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 08:42 PM
fumble by jones not a good start in the runing game.

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 08:43 PM
Come on Jones!

rodu
08-21-2010, 08:44 PM
my video is a bit choppy, but it looked like our o-line was moving the pile, before Jones fumbled

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 08:47 PM
There is about a 5 minute delay on that sites video feed compared to 101the fox.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 08:49 PM
got some pressure on the qb that time good to see.

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 08:50 PM
Way to go ARENAS

fairladyZ
08-21-2010, 08:52 PM
NICE ARENAS!

53-yrd return!

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:52 PM
Way to go ARENAS

Hearing it.. then watching it, you can tell he's not afraid to take a few hits.

rodu
08-21-2010, 08:52 PM
looks like we have ourselves a returner:punk:

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 08:52 PM
We might just have a return game again

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:55 PM
TOUCHDOWN!! :yahoo:

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 08:55 PM
Touchdown Kansas City

fairladyZ
08-21-2010, 08:56 PM
TD!!!!

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 08:56 PM
Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slc chief
08-21-2010, 08:57 PM
what happened who scored the td

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:57 PM
what happened who scored the td

Cassel to Jeremy Horne.

rodu
08-21-2010, 08:57 PM
Horne in the first quarter? Looks like he's got a good shot to make the team, he's been getting a bunch of hype from the writers

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 08:58 PM
Horne in the first quarter? Looks like he's got a good shot to make the team, he's been getting a bunch of hype from the writers


If he's getting TDs thats a good thing :chiefs:

Three7s
08-21-2010, 08:58 PM
Loved that drive, the Bucs had no chance of stopping it.

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 08:59 PM
I liked that drive, alot

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Now how about a 3 and out from the D

stricken721
08-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Wow. That was a hit by Berry.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:01 PM
no straeming f this crap

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:02 PM
no straeming f this crap

channel name - Zonein (http://www.zonein.tv/60925) This works, but 101 is about 3-4 minutes ahead.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:02 PM
http://atdhe.net/22392/watch-kansas-city-chiefs-vs-tampa-bay-buccaneers


better feed of the game. still a bucs one.

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:04 PM
http://atdhe.net/22392/watch-kansas-city-chiefs-vs-tampa-bay-buccaneers


better feed of the game. still a bucs one.

THANKS

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:05 PM
Pair that new feed with the FOX and you have a winner!

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:05 PM
Is it just me or might we have a D lol

Three7s
08-21-2010, 09:05 PM
Another nice job by the defense, run defense looks great so far.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:06 PM
atdhe doesnt work..strickens does tytytyty

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:07 PM
lol stricken looks like hes videoing his tv..nice it works and i missed the score

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:07 PM
Another nice job by the defense, run defense looks great so far.

Yes it does and there has even been some pressure on the QB need a lot more still but it's a good thing.

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:09 PM
lol stricken looks like hes videoing his tv..nice it works and i missed the score

Ah that's not my feed lol. Matthewschiefs posted that earlier in the thread, thanks to him we got that one, but the one on atdhe is working for me.

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:11 PM
Im liking the way Cassel Is commanding this offense.

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:12 PM
Cassel 6 of 8 for 54 yards 1 TD, 132.3 rating at the end of the 1st quarter.

Not bad at all.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:12 PM
nice job by jones to fight for the 1st

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:14 PM
Cassel 6 of 8 for 54 yards 1 TD, 132.3 rating at the end of the 1st quarter.

Not bad at all.

Whats more impressive to me is the way he is recognizing blitzs and directing the offense. All goes hand in hand

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:14 PM
frikin we are moving the ball looks like different team

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 09:15 PM
Better feed on the original link right now.

rodu
08-21-2010, 09:15 PM
our lines are both playing much better tonight

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:16 PM
idiot casel he had protection

Three7s
08-21-2010, 09:17 PM
The Bucs stopped us there, but mostly because of the reverse. I don't mind the Chiefs doing it either. Preseason is the time to do it!

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:22 PM
Flowers got beat on that play.. Not good.

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:22 PM
Were not getting the stops, however our Dline is much more aggressive and I am liking the pressure.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:22 PM
Well that drive was not good for the D

Three7s
08-21-2010, 09:23 PM
What the hell Flowers! That's the first time I've ever seen him beaten like that.

rodu
08-21-2010, 09:23 PM
our corners are getting picked on, making the tackle is more important than the pick

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 09:23 PM
Decent pressure on that possession.....

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:23 PM
Flowers looked dazed and confused on that play!

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:23 PM
wow our line is playing better then our corners

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:24 PM
What the hell Flowers! That's the first time I've ever seen him beaten like that.

happens to the best of them sometimes. Let him get it out of the way in the preseason lol

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 09:25 PM
I think Flowers tried to jump the route and then realized he was beat and couldn't get back in time. Made it look like an arm tackle

Three7s
08-21-2010, 09:25 PM
wow our line is playing better then our corners
No kidding, we haven't given up anything against the run, but Carr and Flowers are getting torched. What's going on out there?!

kcnation
08-21-2010, 09:26 PM
man these d-backs looking like hell,can't believe the way they are playing.no reason for that to happen.....this team needs a lot of work it seems

Three7s
08-21-2010, 09:28 PM
Charles late on the blitz pickup.

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:29 PM
Cmon O Line

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 09:30 PM
How bout that for Cassell having time?

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:30 PM
Cassell didnt have a prayer that time

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:32 PM
wow no running.. leave the first team in the whole game till they get it right

Vanilla Garilla
08-21-2010, 09:36 PM
My feed was lost, anybody else?

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:37 PM
My feed was lost, anybody else?

Yep. I can't find anything live.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:38 PM
http://atdhe.net/22916/watch-kansas-city-chiefs-vs-tampa-bay-buccaneers

MY CURRENT FEED

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:40 PM
non of the streaming is working again..frikin sucks

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:40 PM
Nice catch and run my DMC.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:41 PM
http://atdhe.net/22916/watch-kansas-city-chiefs-vs-tampa-bay-buccaneers

MY CURRENT FEED
nope says you have to download some crapp..its virus

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:44 PM
nope says you have to download some crapp..its virus


Its working fine for me

honda522
08-21-2010, 09:44 PM
I'm liking that when Cassel is getting good protection, he is delivering the ball.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:45 PM
stupid internet and stupid chiefs for not getting the game on tv

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 09:45 PM
nope says you have to download some crapp..its virus
Working fine here

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:46 PM
says you need vshare..thats viral! its not on there! its not on enywheres online!

slc chief
08-21-2010, 09:47 PM
do we still have the ball

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:47 PM
Apparently on that last play Pope fumbled the ball but was ruled down by contact, it sounds like tonight they are having a small problem holding on to the the ball, maybe it's raining?

honda522
08-21-2010, 09:49 PM
stupid internet and stupid chiefs for not getting the game on tv
Stupid chiefs fans for not living in KC or buying NFL Sunday ticket.:chiefs:

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:49 PM
scams all scams

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:49 PM
stricken u watching it? where?

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:50 PM
Stupid chiefs fans for not living in KC or buying NFL Sunday ticket.:chiefs:

Preseason isn't on Sunday Ticket.

slc chief
08-21-2010, 09:50 PM
Stupid chiefs fans for not living in KC or buying NFL Sunday ticket.:chiefs:
i have sunday ticket but it does nothing for preseason this is killing me

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:50 PM
stricken u watching it? where?

I'm listening to it on 101 with Mitch and Len.

honda522
08-21-2010, 09:51 PM
Preseason isn't on Sunday Ticket.
F preseason anyways...

Kick is good. I swear we had the first down.

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:51 PM
Succop good. Tied going into the half. Cassel played well.

OPLookn
08-21-2010, 09:51 PM
I'm watching it on tv and it's halftime now. I can't believe I'm going to say this but the Chiefs o-line and d-line are looking dominate! Carr gave up that td that was just a poor angle but overall I'm starting to feel really impressed.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 09:52 PM
Tied ball game hope this weeks 2nd half goes better then last weeks

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 09:54 PM
Stupid chiefs fans for not living in KC or buying NFL Sunday ticket.:chiefs:

excuse me I have Sunday ticket!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUYCH!!!!!! ITS NOT ON THERE!!!!!!!!!

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 09:55 PM
nope says you have to download some crapp..its virus
I haven't downloaded anything and I've watched the entire game. There should be 2 feeds that are the Chiefs vs Buccaneers. I am watching the top (or first) feed. No downloads, just clicked on it.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 09:58 PM
Apparently on that last play Pope fumbled the ball but was ruled down by contact, it sounds like tonight they are having a small problem holding on to the the ball, maybe it's raining?
Not raining. With the exception of the Jones fumble, which the ball was ripped out, all of the other balls on the ground have been from players reaching for extra yards and the ground causing the fumble. We kept possession on all but I'm not thrilled with that tactic. Have seen too many balls get ripped out while reaching. Tuck the darn ball away and get back in the huddle!!!!

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:58 PM
Cassel played well statistically and in recognizing the defense. Rushing was pretty good, no penalties is excellent! We just need to up the game a little more on the defensive side of the ball and we may walk away with a win tonight. Hopefully Cassel will play a little more, y'all have fun guys I'm out. If you bet on this game on sportsbook, I will settle bets when I get back. :bananen_smilies046:

stricken721
08-21-2010, 09:59 PM
Not raining. With the exception of the Jones fumble, which the ball was ripped out, all of the other balls on the ground have been from players reaching for extra yards and the ground causing the fumble. We kept possession on all but I'm not thrilled with that tactic. Have seen too many balls get ripped out while reaching. Tuck the darn ball away and get back in the huddle!!!!

Oh ok. My game feeds were never very clear so I couldn't tell what the deal was.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 10:03 PM
Not raining. With the exception of the Jones fumble, which the ball was ripped out, all of the other balls on the ground have been from players reaching for extra yards and the ground causing the fumble. We kept possession on all but I'm not thrilled with that tactic. Have seen too many balls get ripped out while reaching. Tuck the darn ball away and get back in the huddle!!!!

I tend to agree i have seen a few to many balls on the ground for our end.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
Nice job on the 3rd down play not giveing the first

Connie Jo
08-21-2010, 10:28 PM
nope says you have to download some crapp..its virus

It told me I needed to download some video share application too. I don't know that it's a virus, but not comfortable with downloading stuff I'm not familiar with.

honda522
08-21-2010, 10:33 PM
Nice job 3rd string! Lets get a win today

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 10:35 PM
Nice job 3rd string! Lets get a win today


That was a nice drive would have loved a td. Now lets hope the d keeps that lead good.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 10:43 PM
legget out..he got hurt carting off

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
yeah they have brought out the cart. Hope it's nothing real bad. Hate to see that happen to a guy.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 10:58 PM
now we cant hold on to the ball again geeze come on d

AussieChiefsFan
08-21-2010, 11:00 PM
now we cant hold on to the ball again geeze come on d
Javaris williams stuffed up the catch. :(

Connie Jo
08-21-2010, 11:00 PM
channel name - Zonein (http://www.zonein.tv/60925)

Its the bucs feed but its something I guess.

This one has been working for me 2nd half, so thank you very much for posting it!

AussieChiefsFan
08-21-2010, 11:01 PM
yeah they have brought out the cart. Hope it's nothing real bad. Hate to see that happen to a guy.
Yeah, and especially in the preseason .

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 11:02 PM
a good return for the chiefs would be big here.

AussieChiefsFan
08-21-2010, 11:03 PM
a good return for the chiefs would be big here.
:bananen_smilies046:

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 11:04 PM
Legget was leading with his head while going for a tackle. Hope he's alright but damn, they teach you not to do that in Pee Wee football!

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 11:04 PM
I think we no who the kick returner will be after that lol

josh1971
08-21-2010, 11:12 PM
No

pass

rush

whatsoever...

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 11:23 PM
frikin whats happening? all feeds are dead again

AussieChiefsFan
08-21-2010, 11:23 PM
Palko is going alright now.

Connie Jo
08-21-2010, 11:26 PM
My feed didn't die, but switched over to the Packers and Seahawks! UGH!!!!!!!!

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 11:28 PM
its 4th and goal for the chiefs at about the 6

josh1971
08-21-2010, 11:29 PM
Palko is going alright now.

Palko *was* going all right...

Overall, not a bad game, but enough wrong to say it wasn't a good one either. Sure, there's still a minute left, but our pass rush really needs work.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 11:29 PM
we lost stupid passing on 2 yd line and then penalty cost us a game..kick him off the team. fire all of em and start over.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 11:31 PM
My feed didn't die, but switched over to the Packers and Seahawks! UGH!!!!!!!!


I know its still dead if not the chiefs game..i dont care we got our azzzzzzzzz kicked by the reject bucks

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 11:32 PM
No

pass

rush

whatsoever...
There certainly was with the ones in there.

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 11:32 PM
if we cant beat the bucks we are in trouble..

josh1971
08-21-2010, 11:33 PM
Well, I don't think it was that bad, PA. But we have some deficiencies to be sure. Also, this wasn't an arrrse kicking by the bucs.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 11:33 PM
frikin whats happening? all feeds are dead again
Never lost the feed once

josh1971
08-21-2010, 11:34 PM
There certainly was with the ones in there.


Wait... what? We did horrible at pressuring any QB tonight. A couple hurries, maybe?

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 11:35 PM
One last hope

Connie Jo
08-21-2010, 11:35 PM
Okay, when I lost my feed it was a tie game...what happened after that?

Pro_Angler
08-21-2010, 11:36 PM
no pressure at all....again

josh1971
08-21-2010, 11:36 PM
no pressure at all....again


This.

slc chief
08-21-2010, 11:37 PM
if we cant beat the bucks we are in trouble..
it is preseason quit panicking

Three7s
08-21-2010, 11:38 PM
I certainly saw pass rush with the ones in. Dunno what game you guys were watching.

AussieChiefsFan
08-21-2010, 11:39 PM
it is preseason quit panickingYeah I mean all the backups were in so the real stuff is coming in the regular season! :D

buffman316
08-21-2010, 11:41 PM
the Chiefs looked much better in game two! Let's bring it now against Philly and continue to grow as San Diego looms.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-21-2010, 11:43 PM
Wait... what? We did horrible at pressuring any QB tonight. A couple hurries, maybe?
I thought we had decent pressure early in the game. First quarter.....After that, ya nothing but it was far better tonight than I've seen it in 15 games.

rodu
08-21-2010, 11:44 PM
The guys they are going to cut beat the guys we are going to cut. I saw some positives with the first teams. Any updates on Legette?

Connie Jo
08-21-2010, 11:46 PM
Well, I didn't get to see the last minutes of the game since my feed switched over to the Packers/Seahawks game. However, seemed to me we played a decent game up until Palko through the interception, from that point struggling began.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 11:46 PM
I certainly saw pass rush with the ones in. Dunno what game you guys were watching.

There was pass rush in the first half I mean the bucs qb did get hurt. Still would like to see more but it looked better then last years pass rush or lack there of for sure.

honda522
08-21-2010, 11:47 PM
Well....we did improve. I liked what I saw but we still didn't win.

matthewschiefs
08-21-2010, 11:47 PM
The guys they are going to cut beat the guys we are going to cut. I saw some positives with the first teams. Any updates on Legette?

This did look much more like a real football team then last weeks. Thats about all you can ask for in the preseason. Next weeks game would be the one to judge if you judge preseason games.

Connie Jo
08-21-2010, 11:49 PM
The guys they are going to cut beat the guys we are going to cut. I saw some positives with the first teams. Any updates on Legette?

Chiefs' Maurice Leggett taken off with neck injury

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 21, 2010 10:21 PM ET
Chiefs cornerback Maurice Leggett was taken off the field Saturday night on a cart after a scary neck injury left him on the ground for a number of minutes.

Leggett was knocked down while tackling Bucs running back Kareem Huggins. Both the Chiefs and Bucs held their hands together praying for Leggett while a stretcher was brought out and used to lift Leggett on to the cart.

Leggett had movement in his hands (http://twitter.com/JoshLooney/status/21792968795) and legs, according to Josh Looney of the Chiefs' website.

Connie Jo
08-21-2010, 11:54 PM
Not much out there on Leggett yet, but here's another report that says about the same really:

And Saturday was a long night. It got worse after defensive back Maurice Leggett suffered a neck injury and was carted from the field late in the third quarter. Leggett was hurt while trying to tackle Bucs running back Kareem Huggins, and trainers tended to Leggett, a third-year defender, for about 10 minutes before placing him on a backboard and lifting him onto the cart. Players from both teams gathered on the field as Leggett was being looked at, and the Chiefs formed a semicircle and appeared to pray. The team didn’t divulge specifics of Leggett’s injury, saying only that he had hurt his neck and that he wouldn’t return.

The Chiefs looked deflated after the injury, allowing Tampa Bay to score 10 points in less than nine minutes. The Chiefs still have time to make adjustments, but after two games, it appears that their biggest hope this season might be one that was a concern all along: that the offense scores plenty of points — and that the defense isn’t often called upon to save the day.

stricken721
08-22-2010, 12:45 AM
Don't worry everybody. The preseason is a smoke screen. Todd Haley has his secret weapons wait for the regular season,shock and awe my friends. :chiefs:

slc chief
08-22-2010, 12:55 AM
it definantly sounded like there were some positives

bwilliams
08-22-2010, 11:34 AM
There was pass rush in the first half I mean the bucs qb did get hurt. Still would like to see more but it looked better then last years pass rush or lack there of for sure.

Huh? What pressure? We got a good hit on Freeman, but we still can't buy a sack to save our lives. Not to mention that the Bucs QBs (not a terribly accurate bunch at the best of times) threw 16 of 25, which is a 64% completion rate.

I mean, we had positives coming out of this game (Cassel especially), but let's not get carried away.

matthewschiefs
08-22-2010, 11:38 AM
Huh? What pressure? We got a good hit on Freeman, but we still can't buy a sack to save our lives. Not to mention that the Bucs QBs (not a terribly accurate bunch at the best of times) threw 16 of 25, which is a 64% completion rate.

I mean, we had positives coming out of this game (Cassel especially), but let's not get carried away.


we are talking to diffrent things here pressure and sacks are diffrent. pressure leads to sacks. The fact that we got some pressure not a ton i grant you but some is a step up from last season when the qbs could have read a book and made lunch before they had to throw the football.

bwilliams
08-22-2010, 11:45 AM
we are talking to diffrent things here pressure and sacks are diffrent. pressure leads to sacks. The fact that we got some pressure not a ton i grant you but some is a step up from last season when the qbs could have read a book and made lunch before they had to throw the football.

If your defense doesn't get sacks or force a lower completion percentage, then they didn't get a whole lot of pressure. I mean, Johnson and Carpenter both had QB ratings over 120. You're not getting a ton of pressure on the QB if that's the case.

Again, not to take away from the good things we did last night, but our pass rush still looks miserable.

matthewschiefs
08-22-2010, 11:57 AM
If your defense doesn't get sacks or force a lower completion percentage, then they didn't get a whole lot of pressure. I mean, Johnson and Carpenter both had QB ratings over 120. You're not getting a ton of pressure on the QB if that's the case.

Again, not to take away from the good things we did last night, but our pass rush still looks miserable.

I didn't say it looked good but I do think it looked better then last year. That for the 2nd PREseason game is about all that you can ask for. If the coverage had been better since they I think we can all agree had an off night then who nos we might get a sack.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-22-2010, 12:27 PM
If your defense doesn't get sacks or force a lower completion percentage, then they didn't get a whole lot of pressure. I mean, Johnson and Carpenter both had QB ratings over 120. You're not getting a ton of pressure on the QB if that's the case.

Again, not to take away from the good things we did last night, but our pass rush still looks miserable.
So your basing our pressure on what Johnson and Carpenter did? Johnson may have come in with a little time in the first but mainly in the second quarter. They did their damage with a lot of back ups in the game. I'm more concerned with what the ENTIRE first unit did when they were all in together. I'm not sure what game you were watching but there was pressure on the QB position in the first quarter of that game. Sacks, maybe not but certainly pressure! The TD was not the D lines fault for sure. That's ALL Flowers! I haven't seen that much pressure in 15 games. It was much better than it has been for some time.

Pro_Angler
08-22-2010, 04:34 PM
Don't worry everybody. The preseason is a smoke screen. Todd Haley has his secret weapons wait for the regular season,shock and awe my friends. :chiefs:

Nice thought but I dont believe that.. We are struggling to play a base offense and defense.

stricken721
08-22-2010, 05:08 PM
Nice thought but I dont believe that.. We are struggling to play a base offense and defense.

I was just trying to give a light at the end of the tunnel with a small joke. We're going to have our problems this year on this team that's for sure. But we should show improvement. This team really isn't showing signs of a setback when you look at the first team play. When we played against Atlanta we didn't look that great, but too we have to remember that was the first time this team had played at regular game speed in over 6 months, and for the first time this summer against somebody other than themselves. Last night could have been a victory, the first team did their job, though they could have gotten a couple of sacks. Aside from Flowers mistake the 1st team on both sides of the ball played better than Tampa. We probably could have won that game last night had Palko played a lot better and not allowed 2 INT's. Next week will be a great test for us.. back at home, against a team that is significantly better than us. If we can hold our own, stay ahead or keep it close for 3 quarters (That is if the starters play that long) then we should feel a lot better about this team.

Connie Jo
08-22-2010, 09:36 PM
Nice thought but I dont believe that.. We are struggling to play a base offense and defense.

I dunno, I believe it...somewhat. I often wear red colored glasses, however, hahaha. :D

bwilliams
08-23-2010, 03:38 PM
So your basing our pressure on what Johnson and Carpenter did? Johnson may have come in with a little time in the first but mainly in the second quarter. They did their damage with a lot of back ups in the game. I'm more concerned with what the ENTIRE first unit did when they were all in together. I'm not sure what game you were watching but there was pressure on the QB position in the first quarter of that game. Sacks, maybe not but certainly pressure! The TD was not the D lines fault for sure. That's ALL Flowers! I haven't seen that much pressure in 15 games. It was much better than it has been for some time.

Johnson came in with about seven minutes left in the first. And most of our starters were in throughout the whole second quarter.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Johnson came in with about seven minutes left in the first. And most of our starters were in throughout the whole second quarter.
So you've obviously watched the replay right? Are you still going to say there was NO pressure on the QB or are you going to say that we had no sacks?

Three7s
08-23-2010, 07:40 PM
So you've obviously watched the replay right? Are you still going to say there was NO pressure on the QB or are you going to say that we had no sacks?
We all know there was pressure, Hali was in the QBs face multiple times, along with Studebaker.

Pro_Angler
08-23-2010, 07:57 PM
Hali got pressure in a lot of situations last year but couldnt close the deal..same old things so far this year.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-23-2010, 08:34 PM
Hali got pressure in a lot of situations last year but couldnt close the deal..same old things so far this year.
I believe you, along with a few others said the was "no pressure". There was pressure just no sacks. Sacks would be nice yes but pressure is a good thing also. Pressure is what you ask of your defensive line. It helps the backfield do there job better. The backfield (we are talking starters) did not do there job all that well but the starting line certainly got pressure on the QB

Pro_Angler
08-24-2010, 11:32 PM
yea hillbilly thats what i said pressure but no sacks..

bwilliams
08-25-2010, 09:40 PM
I believe you, along with a few others said the was "no pressure". There was pressure just no sacks. Sacks would be nice yes but pressure is a good thing also. Pressure is what you ask of your defensive line. It helps the backfield do there job better. The backfield (we are talking starters) did not do there job all that well but the starting line certainly got pressure on the QB

OK, fair enough.