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slc chief
08-22-2010, 12:06 AM
i did not get to listen or watch the whole game.but from what it sounds like the number 1's faired pretty good offense and defense.the stat sheets dont look to bad charles averaged 5.8 ypc bowe caught 3 for 33 and cassell had a great qb rating 15 of 18 i think it was.can anybody feel me in on what else happened i will be able to watch it in full when nfl network re-airs it

fairladyZ
08-22-2010, 12:23 AM
first team looked very good except Brandon Flowers missed tackle that went for 50+yrd score.. And Thomas Jones Fumble.

Also didn't like a couple play calls but overall was very happy with first team

Chief Tyler
08-22-2010, 01:03 AM
Blocking was a lot better today, allowed Cassel time and gave Jones more room to run. Jones looks like he's taking on a little JC, had a few runs where he showed the same patience that Charles has. We're going to have an incredible running game if McCluster is able to pick that up as well. Charles' vision really is impressive, he waits behind the line, and then behind the second tier of blocks before turning it on in the secondary, while other times he bolts right from the snap. Jones already looks like a completely different runner in trying to emulate that. Cassel wasn't flashy and there weren't any big plays, but as long as he doesn't turn it over and converts on 3rd like he has been, the running game will take care of the rest. He did look a little more confident today. Jones looked better as the game went along. His first few touches were awful. He fumbled, had a pass go right through his arms and threw so many moves at once that he faked himself out and went down almost untouched.

On the defensive side it was a little better and a little worse. The starters didn't give up much at all in the running game. Except for some uncharacteristically accurate throws from Johnson and that mistake by Flowers (which I'm glad happened to him and not Carr, Lewis or Berry as we're all convinced he's already a stud) the secondary looked good. Early on it looked like the d was getting more pressure on the QB, but a second game without a sack is pretty disheartening. It does look like Romeo is having a pretty positive impact on the unit as a whole, which was especially apparent in that nickel package the announcers pointed out where he brought fast pressure and had the dbacks in a position to shut down the quick outlets.

NWA Chief
08-22-2010, 02:18 AM
Don't forget Javier Arenas returning kicks. His job on special teams will affect the offense greatly. Having the field cut in half can do wonders for an offense that struggles.
(Disclaimer) I didn't watch the game, just saw a summary on NFL.com and parts on SportCenter.

I also saw Cassel was accurate, but didn't have as many yards as I'd like to see. The tendency that I see is htrowing to TE's and RB's. Never breaking big plays, if the offense is going to be good, they skill guys need to make plays.

Ready for the season.....Go KC!

bwilliams
08-22-2010, 10:20 AM
Positives are that Cassel looked great and our OL looked good. Our starting run defense looked good as well.

Negatives are that we didn't get any pressure on the opposing QB, Matt Cassel can't stopped getting sacked, our pass defense was surprisingly poor, and that Tampa Bay's starters battled ours evenly despite being a bottom-3 team.

Chief Tyler
08-22-2010, 11:43 AM
Don't forget Javier Arenas returning kicks. His job on special teams will affect the offense greatly. Having the field cut in half can do wonders for an offense that struggles.
(Disclaimer) I didn't watch the game, just saw a summary on NFL.com and parts on SportCenter.

I also saw Cassel was accurate, but didn't have as many yards as I'd like to see. The tendency that I see is htrowing to TE's and RB's. Never breaking big plays, if the offense is going to be good, they skill guys need to make plays.

Ready for the season.....Go KC!

Most of his targets were going to receivers actually. Bowe had 3 catches and a few more targets than that. Chambers had a few and his TD pass was to Horne. They're just not going to be a deep ball team, which is fine because Bowe isn't a burner, Chambers is getting older and McCluster looks like he'll have most of his receptions out of the backfield or outlets near the line of scrimmage. If we have big plays this year its going they're going to come more from Charles and hopefully McCluster breaking off huge runs and less from Cassel's arm, which is fine as long as they keep moving the chains.

yashi
08-22-2010, 11:53 AM
I was very happy with our first team all-around with the exception of Flowers making a rare disastrous mistake and Thomas Jones fumbling on his first carry.

The Bucs aren't a very good team, but I'm actually very impressed with the rush we're getting this year compared to last. I saw our DL getting a nice push on several plays, which is something I don't recall ever seeing last year.

billb40
08-22-2010, 01:30 PM
We must be able to throw the ball down the field. If we can't then good teams will stuff us. :beat_DeadHorse:

LargoChief
08-22-2010, 02:25 PM
Tyler Palko looked great...it seemed he was very confident. I know he's the htird..but he looked good.

Pro_Angler
08-22-2010, 03:46 PM
Positives are that Cassel looked great and our OL looked good. Our starting run defense looked good as well.

Negatives are that we didn't get any pressure on the opposing QB, Matt Cassel can't stopped getting sacked, our pass defense was surprisingly poor, and that Tampa Bay's starters battled ours evenly despite being a bottom-3 team.


UMMM how can our OL be looking god if cassel cant stop getting seacked??

fairladyZ
08-22-2010, 04:02 PM
Uhm cassel got sacked once and it was no where NEAR his fault or the lines as the bucs just brought to many to put a hat on. It was actually Charles fault for being late on the blitz pickup.

Palko got sacked once aswell.

I'm ok with a sac or 2 a game compared to last year.

slc chief
08-22-2010, 04:12 PM
sounds like there was some good improvemants i can not wait to watch the game

kcvet
08-22-2010, 05:55 PM
ive been impressed with the OL. looks much better. course these pre games they show vanilla plays

Chiefster
08-23-2010, 12:38 AM
ive been impressed with the OL. looks much better. course these pre games they show vanilla plays


Ahhh, tis true.

Connie Jo
08-23-2010, 02:00 AM
Positives are that Cassel looked great and our OL looked good. Our starting run defense looked good as well.

Negatives are that we didn't get any pressure on the opposing QB, Matt Cassel can't stopped getting sacked, our pass defense was surprisingly poor, and that Tampa Bay's starters battled ours evenly despite being a bottom-3 team.

I don't follow other teams like I do our Chiefs, so I could be off with my following thought.

Our Chiefs were a losing record team last season, along with Tampa. If our Chiefs have improved during the off season, as we believe they have...is it not possible Tampa has done the same? In other words...just because Tampa had a poor record last season, doesn't necessarily mean they will this season...same is true of our Chiefs. Therefore, possibly our starters vs their starters battling evenly...doesn't indicate a negative aspect, rather a positive...'IF' Tampa has improved during the off season, that is, haha. :D

Three7s
08-23-2010, 02:35 AM
Uhm cassel got sacked once and it was no where NEAR his fault or the lines as the bucs just brought to many to put a hat on. It was actually Charles fault for being late on the blitz pickup.

Palko got sacked once aswell.

I'm ok with a sac or 2 a game compared to last year.
I mentioned that Charles was late on that blitz pickup in the GDT thread, of course everyone chalks it up to terrible o-line. I've been really impressed with the o-line, looking forward to seeing how they do against the Eagles.

Seek
08-23-2010, 09:23 AM
Don't forget Javier Arenas returning kicks. His job on special teams will affect the offense greatly. Having the field cut in half can do wonders for an offense that struggles.
(Disclaimer) I didn't watch the game, just saw a summary on NFL.com and parts on SportCenter.

I also saw Cassel was accurate, but didn't have as many yards as I'd like to see. The tendency that I see is htrowing to TE's and RB's. Never breaking big plays, if the offense is going to be good, they skill guys need to make plays.

Ready for the season.....Go KC!

he was throwing to the TE and RB because those were his hot routes. The Bucs blitzed him a bunch and those are usually his first read when looking at a blitz. That is what impressed me the most. He was reading the defense, calling it out and the executing it.

Seek
08-23-2010, 09:58 AM
My positives -

Cassel looked very sharp. I don't care what you anti Cassel fans want to blame, he had a really good game and showed me some promise for the season. He was reading the defense, he played smart by throwing some balls away and even tucked it immediate when MCCluster was covered on a WR Screen.

The offense as a whole looked tons better. The offensive line held up for the most part and the running and passing game benefited from it.

Special teams look to be a bunch better from last year. Not just with Arenas, but covereage and blocking.

I think Belcher may be a better optin than Mays.

Negatives.
I was not impressed with DJ again. I really wish he would just wow everyone like he did against Denver more consistently.

I was also not very impressed with D. Williams getting all pumped up for stopping a four yard gain against back ups. That to me is a succesful run and not something to praise yourself over.

While our starting secondary may be a strength, our depth is a weakness. Carr was some what a liability out there.

buffman316
08-23-2010, 11:16 AM
The positive thing is that we took a step forward, and not a step backward. The offense already looks to be more fluent and there was no point in last year's pre season where we could say that! I will be there Friday night hoping to see another big step forward!

bwilliams
08-23-2010, 02:16 PM
I don't follow other teams like I do our Chiefs, so I could be off with my following thought.

Our Chiefs were a losing record team last season, along with Tampa. If our Chiefs have improved during the off season, as we believe they have...is it not possible Tampa has done the same? In other words...just because Tampa had a poor record last season, doesn't necessarily mean they will this season...same is true of our Chiefs. Therefore, possibly our starters vs their starters battling evenly...doesn't indicate a negative aspect, rather a positive...'IF' Tampa has improved during the off season, that is, haha. :D

Not to start a flame war here, but how much (if any) the Chiefs improved this offseason is up for debate.

I think TB had a great draft, but they're easily 2-3 seasons away, and should be a bottom three team this season. Freeman will need time to grow, they have two rookie WRs and two rookie DTs. Not to mention they're in maybe the hardest division in the NFL.

Drunker Hillbilly
08-23-2010, 06:40 PM
ONE penalty!!!! Now that's a positive

Pro_Angler
08-23-2010, 07:03 PM
ONE penalty!!!! Now that's a positive


Yea but the penalty cost us a TD..

Connie Jo
08-23-2010, 07:13 PM
Not to start a flame war here, but how much (if any) the Chiefs improved this offseason is up for debate.

I think TB had a great draft, but they're easily 2-3 seasons away, and should be a bottom three team this season. Freeman will need time to grow, they have two rookie WRs and two rookie DTs. Not to mention they're in maybe the hardest division in the NFL.

Oh, no "flame wars" from me, might occasionally witness a 'spark' in a debate, but more than that would be rare & out of character, hahaha. :D

Drunker Hillbilly
08-23-2010, 07:47 PM
Yea but the penalty cost us a TD..
For some reason I think you might have a "yea but" for every scenario....

Pro_Angler
08-24-2010, 10:28 PM
ONE penalty!!!! Now that's a positive


wrong we had 4 2 were secondary penalties were they made big plays and refused, the other 2 were the holding on our punt, how that can happen is bogling, and the last one was a false start that cost us the game.

tornadospotter
08-24-2010, 11:42 PM
We are two games away from the real season.

Chiefster
08-25-2010, 01:15 AM
We are two games away from the real season.


...This! :D