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figcrostic
09-03-2010, 11:13 AM
What players have the most to prove this season?

I think Matt Cassel for sure. Who do you think?

hometeam
09-03-2010, 11:59 AM
the most to prove?
Cassel has to top the list. Watching Brodie last night makes me wonder if he wont be our starting QB by years end (if he can keep from getting injured~)

other guys I think Studebaker, while young needs to step in and prove he can be a solid NFL starter, which I think he can do that.

Also Tyson Jackson. 3-4 DE does not get alot of praise but you can tell when they ARENT doing there job.

Carr. He HAS to step up this year, hes our solid #2 CB and really he just got torched all of last year. He needs to step up or be demoted~

yashi
09-03-2010, 12:24 PM
I'd say besides the obvious Cassel...

Tyson Jackson - As he tries to avoid the dreaded "bust" label.
Derrick Johnson - Contract year, I want him to have a big season and stay a Chief.
Glenn Dorsey - Similar to Jackson, 2nd year in this system and has a lot to prove.
Chris Chambers - Can he keep up last year's success now that he's being paid?
Branden Albert - Needs to prove that sticking with him and not drafting a franchise LT at 5 was the right move.
Jamaal Charles - Prove to the doubters that he can do it for a full season.

OTR Chiefs fan
09-03-2010, 12:59 PM
Top of my list is Dorsey and Jackson (1 & 1a). They need to show that they were worth where they were drafted. Next, is Cassel. But I'm not as worried about him as I am about Dorsey and Jackson. I've seen him make steady progress so that is encouraging. :chiefs:

figcrostic
09-03-2010, 01:30 PM
I'd say besides the obvious Cassel...

Tyson Jackson - As he tries to avoid the dreaded "bust" label.
Derrick Johnson - Contract year, I want him to have a big season and stay a Chief.
Glenn Dorsey - Similar to Jackson, 2nd year in this system and has a lot to prove.
Chris Chambers - Can he keep up last year's success now that he's being paid?
Branden Albert - Needs to prove that sticking with him and not drafting a franchise LT at 5 was the right move.
Jamaal Charles - Prove to the doubters that he can do it for a full season.
:bananen_smilies046: Agree great list

brdempsey69
09-03-2010, 01:33 PM
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Branden Albert - Needs to prove that sticking with him and not drafting a franchise LT at 5 was the right move.
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That's the biggest question mark, right there, for me. On the first play last night, he got stampeded by Packers rookie Mike Neal. Truth be told, Barry Richardson has done a better job protecting the passer than either Albert or O'Cal in the 2010 preseason and I suspect that will be the case come the regular season as well.

It wouldn't surprise me that it would wind up if the Chiefs have a stud LT available to them in the 2011 draft -- this time they take him !!

GOOD THREAD FIG :bananen_smilies046:

figcrostic
09-03-2010, 01:56 PM
That's the biggest question mark, right there, for me. On the first play last night, he got stampeded by Packers rookie Mike Neal. Truth be told, Barry Richardson has done a better job protecting the passer than either Albert or O'Cal in the 2010 preseason and I suspect that will be the case come the regular season as well.

It wouldn't surprise me that it would wind up if the Chiefs have a stud LT available to them in the 2011 draft -- this time they take him !!

GOOD THREAD FIG :bananen_smilies046:

Thank you sir I'm gonna keep an eye on Russell Okung this year to see what could have been.

brdempsey69
09-03-2010, 02:03 PM
Thank you sir I'm gonna keep an eye on Russell Okung this year to see what could have been.

Same here. Okung looked good in the Seahawks first game against the Titans. Then he got his ankle rolled on by one of his own teammates in the 2nd game. I hope he makes it back soon.

If you watch any college football, keep an eye on Anthony Castonzo of Boston College, Nate Solder of Colorado, Joseph Barksdale of LSU, and Gabe Carimi of Wisconson as these are the top rated Tackle prospects so far. Of course that could change after the college season is over.

matthewschiefs
09-03-2010, 02:44 PM
I don't think that there is any question that the most to prove is Cassel and Albert close behind. Besides the ones that have been talked about I will add anther.

D bowe. A couple of years ago he had a real good year catching the football. Last year no so good. Was that year a couple of years ago a fluke or was last year just one bad year. We will have to wait and see

Hayvern
09-03-2010, 04:23 PM
This year it is clearly offense. Cassel and Bowe, and Albert all have to prove that they are what they need to be.

On defense I am a little more open. Derrick Johnson has to step it up if he wants to remain a good player, but something to prove? He has been here long enough we should know what we have there.

Dorsey is due. This is his year without a doubt, if he is the talent he was drafted at, then he needs to show it this year. Jackson has another year before it is make or break with him.

Hali is on the line too. Hali and Johnson both need to show that they are the guys that are going to anchor those linebackers for a few years to come.

Carr and Flowers are two others that are on the line too. So far this preseason at least with what I have seen, these guys are both sucking it up. They need to really step up their games now.

Canada
09-03-2010, 05:41 PM
Eric Berry...gotta earn his $$$

brdempsey69
09-03-2010, 06:23 PM
Eric Berry...gotta earn his $$$

Agree, but given the nature of the position he plays, it's probably not going to happen. Everybody knew when he was drafted he was going to be the highest - paid Safety in the NFL and get franchise QB type dollars.

Safeties simply cannot make the impact of a Stellar QB or LT and this is why many -- myself included -- had reservations about taking a Safety that high, especially over Russell Okung.

Berry is going to help the Chiefs defense a lot, but he's not the 2nd coming of Joe Montana in his prime and cannot impact a football team that way.

Canada
09-03-2010, 06:25 PM
Agree, but given the nature of the position he plays, it's probably not going to happen. Everybody knew when he was drafted he was going to be the highest - paid Safety in the NFL and get franchise QB type dollars.

Safeties simply cannot make the impact of a Stellar QB or LT and this is why many -- myself included -- had reservations about taking a Safety that high, especially over Russell Okung.

Berry is going to help the Chiefs defense a lot, but he's not the 2nd coming of Joe Montana in his prime and cannot impact a football team that way.

I just want to see him play like he is the top paid safety in the league. I dont watch enough college ball to really make an educated guess as to the talent of each draftee but I did want to see a LT drafted as well. I just hope Berry lives up to the hype!!

figcrostic
09-03-2010, 07:02 PM
I just want to see him play like he is the top paid safety in the league. I dont watch enough college ball to really make an educated guess as to the talent of each draftee but I did want to see a LT drafted as well. I just hope Berry lives up to the hype!!

Berry really is as good as the hype, but what people like myself were pissed about is he being picked so high especially when we had one of the best LT's in our hands.

brdempsey69
09-03-2010, 07:41 PM
Berry really is as good as the hype, but what people like myself were pissed about is he being picked so high especially when we had one of the best LT's in our hands.

Precisely, and after watching the Chiefs preseason game against Philly, I have to question just how much better is Berry than Nate Allen ( I thought he played just as good as Berry -- if not better in that game ), who the Chiefs could have had at pick #36. 55 Million dollars better? No way ! Point being Chiefs could have had the stud LT at #5 ( Okung ) and a damn good Safety at #36 ( Nate Allen ).

loyalchief91
09-03-2010, 08:39 PM
Cassell could make or break the team this year. He has the most to prove in my opinion.

josh1971
09-03-2010, 08:53 PM
I think Cassell, Bowe, and our D-line have to prove some stuff.

brdempsey69
09-04-2010, 02:00 PM
I will mention a player that really doesn't have anything to prove, but has proven himself throughout the preseason and deserves to be a starter.

It's OT Barry Richardson. I've went back and reviewed the games and whether he's played LT or RT, his pass-protection for Chiefs QB's has been excellent and he deserves to be the starter at RT ahead of O'Callaghan. If they pull Richardson out of the starting lineup in favor of O'Callaghan, watch the pass protection suffer as a result.

2010chiefs
09-08-2010, 01:14 AM
CASSEL CASSEL and CASSEL! He has all the tools to move the ball this year. As many times as he handed the ball off in pre-season to Charles and Jones shows he'll only have to throw the ball maybe once every 3 downs. That's not asking alot form a QB making 50 mill. Lucky for him we have players that can pick up big yardage after those short passes he makes. Please prove me wrong this year MATT! GO CHIEFS!

buffman316
09-08-2010, 11:17 AM
Matt Cassel needs to be able to get rid of the ball and zip some passes down field. The tools and running game are there, so this is a big season for him. All of our D line needs to get pressure and Brandon Carr needs to be more consistent. Kendrick Lewis has a chance to surpass the spot Page could have had, so this is a big rookie season for him. The offensive line has the chance to gel early and Thomas Jones and JC have to be the heart and soul of the offense. DJ has finally come full circle in the coach's eyes so bring the heat on Monday Night. All in all my top five players to watch that need to prove something are:
1. Matt Cassel
2. Brandon Carr
3. Tyson Jackson
4. Derrick Johnson
5. The offensive Line