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McLovin
11-14-2010, 05:30 PM
Darn Cassel is limping lets take him out.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 05:30 PM
well I won by bet on defensive score 3/1 odds...lol

iratefan
11-14-2010, 05:31 PM
oh god i forgot now that weve scored we have to send the D back out on the field.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 05:32 PM
how about a blitz??? we need turn overs

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 05:32 PM
We get the ball at half and if we can get the ball back and score we are back in it

Three7s
11-14-2010, 05:33 PM
We get the ball at half and if we can get the ball back and score we are back in it
Bull crap.

McLovin
11-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Although that was a good play by Cassel there

Now and then even a blind squirrel gets a nut.

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 05:35 PM
holding, holding, holding on Hali

iratefan
11-14-2010, 05:36 PM
Orton's teaching Cassel how to scramble.

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 05:37 PM
holy ****

stricken721
11-14-2010, 05:37 PM
I thought we were going to have something there. That was impressive though.

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 05:38 PM
Wow Berry is a better return guy then he is a safety

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 05:38 PM
woohoo fg..wish berry had cut that back to the outside it would have been a td

iratefan
11-14-2010, 05:39 PM
omg no way - Haley's going to go for a fieldgoal? watch out for the fake!

tornadospotter
11-14-2010, 05:39 PM
Hey I nice turn of events to end the half. We are only down by 25 now.

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 05:39 PM
We should of had a TD there....if he stays along the sideline it's a TD....we could have been right back in it and had the ball at half...

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 05:40 PM
Wish berry would've scored

reded
11-14-2010, 05:40 PM
Being down 25 sounds better than 35 I guess. Trying to be optimistic but can't come up with much.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 05:41 PM
who the **** goes for a 59 yard fieldgoal into the wind anyway?

SIC J
11-14-2010, 05:46 PM
A TD would've really helped to shift the momentum. But a FG does too, just not as much. Chiefs HAVE to score on their opening drive.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 05:46 PM
well if cassell doesnt cough it up and give em six at the very least it is 13-28 most likely 17-28.
We have a lot of work to do.. we need to blitz and hit frikin orton!!!!!! JAM THE STINKING RECIEVERS

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 05:47 PM
2nd half cant go worse then the 1st at least. Lets just hope we win the 2nd half on this terrible day.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 05:47 PM
and if beryy cut that back outside its 21-28 at the half.. they have not made a mistake yet and we have several in coverage and turn over.

dietsch
11-14-2010, 05:47 PM
We should of had a TD there....if he stays along the sideline it's a TD....we could have been right back in it and had the ball at half...


that's easy to say after the fact...pretty hard to make that decision in real time. good job by berry to even get into field goal range

iratefan
11-14-2010, 05:48 PM
aaaand the atdhe stream is down again. no watchy for me.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 05:49 PM
Berry had the TD if he would have stayed on the sideline. F it we get the ball back and need to score a TD and play at least some decent defense. I don't know but i am being optimistic i think they have a chance to comeback and make it competitive. the first drive is a crucial one.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 05:50 PM
channelsurfing.net is working very well. check it out!

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 05:50 PM
I really hope the 2009 Chew you out Haley was in that locker room. They need it. The donkeys have wanted this more and we did not show up today. They need a good chewing out maybe to light a much needed fire under them.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 05:52 PM
TD here boys

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 05:53 PM
turnovers is needed!!!! STEP UP D!

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 05:53 PM
We need 4 td's to win just go balls out!!!

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 05:53 PM
Got to think it's 0-0 come on offense lets get some points.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 05:53 PM
3 and out/...geez

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 05:53 PM
Oh gawd...this thread doesn't read good. I was away for the weekend, just got home a bit ago...where is the game being streamed...anyone?

SIC J
11-14-2010, 05:53 PM
Chiefs have showed they could move the ball against the Broncos. They need to do a better job at picking up the Bronco blitz, not turn the ball over, and tighten up the defense.

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 05:54 PM
Why not go for it on 4th what do we have to lose???

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 05:55 PM
Oh gawd...this thread doesn't read good. I was away for the weekend, just got home a bit ago...where is the game being streamed...anyone?

http://www.espa.tv/embed.php?channel=maniek&width=800&height=550

gotta download veetle software but it's not spyware I scanned it with two spyware programs and an antivirus program it's a decent stream

SIC J
11-14-2010, 05:55 PM
If the Broncos score a TD here, Chiefs have no chance at all in coming back.

Three7s
11-14-2010, 05:56 PM
I wouldn't be thinking at all about any type of comeback. Just playing half-way decent football would be good enough for me. We've been downright awful today, against the Raiders, and against the Bills, despite winning that one. I'm sick of this every year.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 05:57 PM
that might be the game. turnover here guys. Damn we need help, come on refs help us out. that is the only way we can comeback.

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 05:58 PM
real dissapointing they are still makeing all the plays. we look like a team that is done.

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 05:58 PM
must be altitude sickness

Three7s
11-14-2010, 05:59 PM
Must be that we suck.

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:00 PM
think we need to sit the 1st teamers down they didnt show up in the 1st place.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:00 PM
channelsurfing is still using the same streams as atdhe.net. not working.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:01 PM
Defense cant stop them. we cant score with their score.

reded
11-14-2010, 06:01 PM
Perhaps we ARE who they thought we were? Doesn't seem they're gonna let us off the hook either...

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:01 PM
too easy!!!

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:01 PM
http://www.espa.tv/embed.php?channel=maniek&width=800&height=550

gotta download veetle software but it's not spyware I scanned it with two spyware programs and an antivirus program it's a decent stream


Thanks figrostic...I tried your link, they're saying the page has been banned by espa/tv, LOL. Guess I'll just follow along reading all the comments here. It sounds terrible for our Chiefs. :(

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 06:01 PM
So far, my beginning of the season predictions have ALL been right. I predicted we would lose today but we will win next week.

SIC J
11-14-2010, 06:03 PM
Broncos are playing awesome today. Can't take anything away from today.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:03 PM
WOW. this defense looks like a DIV 2 school playing a powerhouse

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 06:04 PM
Who do we play next week?

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 06:04 PM
and it is absolutely over now. Pathetic performance

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:04 PM
Thanks figrostic...I tried your link, they're saying the page has been banned by espa/tv, LOL. Guess I'll just follow along reading all the comments here. It sounds terrible for our Chiefs. :(

You can go through and try all the links on this page one might work http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=93440&part=sports . Or you can listen to good old Len Dawson http://www.101thefox.net/ListenLive.aspx

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:04 PM
Broncos are playing awesome today. Can't take anything away from today.

It is there day for sure. They have made the plays we haven't

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:05 PM
So far, my beginning of the season predictions have ALL been right. I predicted we would lose today but we will win next week.

I dont think so. the true haley is showing up. we won a few games against people with losing records, we should have lost to the winless bills.. We are exactly as the score shows.

stricken721
11-14-2010, 06:06 PM
Who do we play next week?

Cardinals.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:06 PM
Chiefs cant defend the pass. i dont see them going to the playoffs if the continue to play like they have. Damn i thought we had a decent team.

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 06:06 PM
We better win next week..

OMGLadyGaga
11-14-2010, 06:07 PM
We are a 5-4 football team and we get to avenge the Raiders and Donks losses when they visit arrowhead. And as crappy as we have played, we r in a terrible division that allows us to still have a share of first place. Easy schedule ahead...we shud somehow luck into a 10-6 season and playoffs.

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:07 PM
Why is it the fricken so called BAD teams seem to play better or improved against us?

I had bad feelings about Oakland and Denver both after what I witnessed against the Bills, and our Chiefs played that game was at home. WTF happened to our Chiefs between the Jags and the Bills???? :( :( :(

dietsch
11-14-2010, 06:08 PM
Thanks figrostic...I tried your link, they're saying the page has been banned by espa/tv, LOL. Guess I'll just follow along reading all the comments here. It sounds terrible for our Chiefs. :(

haha, I don't know why you would want to watch this trash today. The Chiefs are playing absolutely terrible.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:08 PM
We better win next week..
we have been saying that after all of the games they have played

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:08 PM
arrowhead isnt gonna stop thier passing or the raiders D or cassels overthrown balls or bowes drops or weises stupid play calling.

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:09 PM
Who do we play next week?


Cardinals...but after the way the Chiefs have played their last 3 games who knows which Chiefs team will show up... just sayin.

I dunno WTF happened to us after the Jags game...arrogance, over confidence maybe?....but something went bad, real bad.

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 06:10 PM
Anybody know who the Raiders play next week?

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:10 PM
Man charles dropped the ball he must suck right... oh wait his last names not bowe so it's okay

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:12 PM
Chargers might win this division the way the are playing now. chiefs are playing pathetic.

RAIDERS4ever
11-14-2010, 06:13 PM
WTF happened to our Chiefs between the Jags and the Bills???? :( :( :(

Reality is finally setting in?

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:14 PM
its a catch..bowe took several steps and lost the ball and gets it back

dietsch
11-14-2010, 06:14 PM
Anybody know who the Raiders play next week?
Luckily for the Chiefs, Oakland plays Pittsburgh

edit: even better, they play in Pittsburgh.

San Diego plays Denver

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 06:15 PM
No way in hell Oakland beats Pittsburgh

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:16 PM
Reality is finally setting in?
You will get your "reality check" next week.

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 06:16 PM
We definately need Kendrick Lewis and Dexter McCluster back next week, we really miss them.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:16 PM
oh now review works???

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:17 PM
Reality is finally setting in?

ummm you needed us to beat ourselfs last week now your here talking trash? In one week you will see what a bad football team you are.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:18 PM
td chiefs

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:18 PM
We definately need Kendrick Lewis and Dexter McCluster back next week, we really miss them.
That is for sure! washington and price got beaten throughout the first half.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:18 PM
lmao - yay thomas Jones - your short runs always seem so successful!

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:18 PM
oh now review works???

amazing how that works.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:19 PM
ummm you needed us to beat ourselfs last week now your here talking trash? In one week you will see what a bad football team you are.

dont feed the troll

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:19 PM
TD chiefs

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Go for it nothing to lose this one is lost already.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:20 PM
wtf let charles go over the top!!!!

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Bowe had no chance

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Chiefs cant defend the pass. i dont see them going to the playoffs if the continue to play like they have. Damn i thought we had a decent team.

They can't defend the pass, and they can't rely on their own passing game...not gonna win games consistently in the NFL these days without both. Too many defenses can stop a one dimensional rushing team, no matter how good of rushing game...gotta be able to have a passing game to fall back on, gotta be able to defend the opposing passing game too.

The Chiefs are too predictable, and the teams opposing us do their homework...obviously. :(


We are a 5-4 football team and we get to avenge the Raiders and Donks losses when they visit arrowhead. And as crappy as we have played, we r in a terrible division that allows us to still have a share of first place. Easy schedule ahead...we shud somehow luck into a 10-6 season and playoffs.

Respectively...there is NO such thing as any easy schedule. I'm beginning to think Haley & the Chiefs took for granted how well we played through the Jags...let success go to their heads, assumed we had a cakewalk after Indy & Texans, like many fans did. A majority thought we'd slaughter the Bills...we didn't, same with the Raiders...we lost...same with Denver...we're losing. There are no gimmies, no easy games, no easy schedules.


haha, I don't know why you would want to watch this trash today. The Chiefs are playing absolutely terrible.

I had that thought myself, haha. I had a really fun weekend away...why the heck would I want to watch after reading how bad we're playing, end my weekend on an upset note? That's why I decided to read along, instead of search for free streaming.


we have been saying that after all of the games they have played

Yep! Sure have...and that sort of thinking is what likely got our Chiefs in trouble too. I think our Chiefs got a bit big headed after the Jags game, began receiving some media attention. Something went bad after the Jags game...what else could it be?

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:20 PM
haley will go for it. will his players actually be able to answer the call?

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:21 PM
It's official we don't wanna win this game

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:21 PM
that right there sums up today they are makeing plays we are not

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Haha Wow.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:21 PM
that pass play was frikin retarded

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:22 PM
What a running team we are. cant even punch it in on the goalline

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:24 PM
catch the frikin ball carr

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 06:24 PM
I honestly think the nose of the football crossed...BS...but whatever

SIC J
11-14-2010, 06:25 PM
Johnson drops another pick 6

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:25 PM
catch the ball DJ retard!!!

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:25 PM
Dj missed anther pick thats a play that they would have made today. We are not makeing plays. We deserve to get our butts kicked.

Three7s
11-14-2010, 06:26 PM
How many is that he's dropped?

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:26 PM
so what now. chiefs have one of the easiest schedule and they can't answer with wins. w=Chiefs are lucky they are not playing elite teams with winning records

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:26 PM
Reality is finally setting in?

Well, it depends upon your definition of reality and mine. The reality by my definition is our Chiefs began to take their success for granted, as many teams do...which when doing so it will dig themselves a pit.

The Chiefs have some of the NFL's top talent both offensively & defensively, coaching staff too. They let their success and the resulting media attention go to their heads after being on the flip side for the last 3 years...they're paying the price for that now.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:26 PM
WOW A 3 and out

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:27 PM
whats jones' running stats today. 15 carries, -5 yards?

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 06:28 PM
And our offensive line needs to be addressed badly in the offseason. Too many old guys

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:28 PM
the running game has disappeared in the last two games

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:29 PM
Connie are you ready for the Bowe show???

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:29 PM
omg - a td.

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:29 PM
we should now have 4 td's. if not for cassels fumble and that stupid pass on the last drive

TöpChiefsFan
11-14-2010, 06:29 PM
To even have a chance to get back in it you've got to run your 2 minute offense for the next 17 minutes.

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:29 PM
More missed interception opportunities from what I gather reading? That makes 3 weeks in a row our defenders have missed/dropped easy interceptions thrown by the opposing QB's.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:29 PM
onsides!

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:29 PM
I dont like the bowe motion after that catch your getting you butt handed to you. You have not earned the right to make those gestures.

OMGLadyGaga
11-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Respectively...there is NO such thing as any easy schedule. I'm beginning to think Haley & the Chiefs took for granted how well we played through the Jags...let success go to their heads, assumed we had a cakewalk after Indy & Texans, like many fans did. A majority thought we'd slaughter the Bills...we didn't, same with the Raiders...we lost...same with Denver...we're losing. There are no gimmies, no easy games, no easy schedules.



WRong...there are easy schedules. And we happen to have one of the easier ones. Look at the combined records of the teams we have left to play...can you imagine what our record would be had we played the Ravens or Patriots schedule thus far? So yes there are easy schedules, whether we win or lose those games is irrelevent in regards to the strength of our schedule.

Not that its necessarily a good thing, since we have proven to play down to the level of the competition. Thats not good.....

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:31 PM
I dont like the bowe motion after that catch your getting you butt handed to you. You have not earned the right to make those gestures.
LOL i thought the same thing

chief31
11-14-2010, 06:32 PM
I think this game exposes our two biggest weaknesses.

Pass-protection, for when you do have to play from behind.

And pass-rush.

The pass-rush is what The Raiders destroyed these same Broncos with.

Also, our running game is not a power-running bunch.

Charles is our beast, and he does it with quickness.

Without Charles, I don't think we are a top fifteen running team. Jones benefits from the defenses reaction to Charles' style.

Not a knock on Jones. He is a proven guy. But I don't think we have the blocking to do what he does, without Charles as the primary threat.

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:33 PM
This is pathetic everyone in the stadium knew it was a run stack the box

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:34 PM
really we are allowing them to run with spencer what ever his last name is we are lucky its not worse.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:34 PM
Got to give it to Denver. they stepped up to win this game.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:34 PM
3rd and one, stacked the box, and he breaks away for 17 yards. soooorrrrryyyyyyyyyyy

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:34 PM
I think this game exposes our two biggest weaknesses.

Pass-protection, for when you do have to play from behind.

And pass-rush.

The pass-rush is what The Raiders destroyed these same Broncos with.

Also, our running game is not a power-running bunch.

Charles is our beast, and he does it with quickness.

Without Charles, I don't think we are a top fifteen running team. Jones benefits from the defenses reaction to Charles' style.

Not a knock on Jones. He is a proven guy. But I don't think we have the blocking to do what he does, without Charles as the primary threat.

That's why I wanted Okung instead of Berry and the year before that Orakpo.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:36 PM
now that i think about it... :beat_DeadHorse: this is how i feel our chiefs look right now. Beating a dead horse bad... directly in the nuts.

brdempsey69
11-14-2010, 06:37 PM
That's why I wanted Okung instead of Berry and the year before that Orakpo.


Same here as we've discussed many times. I knew it was a mistake not taking Okung and that it might backfire & it sure looking that way now.

OMGLadyGaga
11-14-2010, 06:37 PM
But on the bright side..BOwe is having an incredibly awsome game making Champ Bailey look like an overpaid past his prime former shutdown corner......

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:38 PM
We should just all out 11 man blitz these guys hey if they get a TD they get one but this is horrible to watch

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:38 PM
But on the bright side..BOwe is having an incredibly awsome game making Champ Bailey look like an overpaid past his prime former shutdown corner......
and they are making our defense look like a DIV 2 defense

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 06:39 PM
Oh look Tebow made the headlines. Overrated garbage

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:39 PM
Same here as we've discussed many times. I knew it was a mistake not taking Okung and that it might backfire & it sure looking that way now.

It's bitter sweet, but my dream was to get okung move albert to guard trade waters for a 3rd it was rumored we were offered that last year. Imagine if we had orakpo and hali as our olb's we would be a top five pass rush team.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:40 PM
cant stop the pass ahhhhhhhhh

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:40 PM
how many seconds of pocket protection? 5? 8?

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:40 PM
What a running team we are. cant even punch it in on the goalline

That's because we've become too predictable as a rushing team, known for a problem team with passing and defending the pass. Our opponents know our weakness' and strengths. WTF happened to calling fleaflickers and 30-40 yard passes like we did in earlier games this season, not rush all the time. The last 3 games we've relied too much on rushing & short throws, our defense isn't making easy interception catches...on & on. It's easy enough to figure out the problems...problem is the problems aren't being resolved from week to week since the Jags game.


Dj missed anther pick thats a play that they would have made today. We are not makeing plays. We deserve to get our butts kicked.

DJ's missed others, so has Carr & Berry the last 3 weeks...catches they were making earlier this season.


the running game has disappeared in the last two games

See my comment above...we're too predictable...the opposing teams did their homework, shut down our rushing game.


Connie are you ready for the Bowe show???

Oh gawd...what did he do this week? That boy is a lot of work to defend, lol.


omg - a td.

HA! You're funny cute, hahaha.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:42 PM
looks like a td

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:42 PM
gargabe just garbage..!!! POC

brdempsey69
11-14-2010, 06:42 PM
It's bitter sweet, but my dream was to get okung move albert to guard trade waters for a 3rd it was rumored we were offered that last year. Imagine if we had orakpo and hali as our olb's we would be a top five pass rush team.

Yes, that would have been excellent. As I said before, when Okung has been able to play he's been a real stud. I think he's playing today and Seattle is winning.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:44 PM
aaaaand the embarrassment continuesssss

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:44 PM
wow they really needed that challange. Geeze today cant get any worse

Pro_Angler
11-14-2010, 06:45 PM
its over..im done.. till we lose next week. unless we have a new coach and QB and WR's.

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:46 PM
Oh gawd...what did he do this week? That boy is a lot of work to defend, lol.

No ma'am he's been playing incredible today 1 td 127 yards

aren't you listening to the game?

http://www.101thefox.net/ListenLive.aspx

loyalchief91
11-14-2010, 06:46 PM
How many points is Denver going for? Wtf

SIC J
11-14-2010, 06:47 PM
A muffed kickoff. When it rains, it pours.....

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:48 PM
So what now. just wait till next year to fix the obvious problems. tired of always waiting till the following year to make changes. wonder when we are going to have a good core of players that do their jobs and be consistent. opposing teams have the chiefs figured out. it is going to be a long season.

SIC J
11-14-2010, 06:49 PM
How many points is Denver going for? Wtf

They're probably trying to make up for their a$$ kicking they got by the Raiders. Trying to keep the momentum going into next week against the Chargers. To be honest, I hope they do play the same way against the Chargers.

brdempsey69
11-14-2010, 06:50 PM
I wasn't expecting the Chiefs to win today -- but to get blown out like this !! It's looking like they are going to suffer the same type of collapse in the 2nd half of the season that Denver experienced last year.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:53 PM
cassel is playing decent. they just dug themselves in a deep hole

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:54 PM
d bowe 11 receptions

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 06:55 PM
Yes, that would have been excellent. As I said before, when Okung has been able to play he's been a real stud. I think he's playing today and Seattle is winning.

This is a good game for the Chiefs believe it or not because it's going to open a lot of peoples eyes and give everyone a real honest assessment of our skillset

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:55 PM
here we go - getting the sympathy treatment by the announcers. "KC is a very YOUNG team" - this is code for "Theyre a bunch of ****ing children". PS - nice almost INT cassel.

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 06:56 PM
WRong...there are easy schedules. And we happen to have one of the easier ones. Look at the combined records of the teams we have left to play...can you imagine what our record would be had we played the Ravens or Patriots schedule thus far? So yes there are easy schedules, whether we win or lose those games is irrelevent in regards to the strength of our schedule.

Not that its necessarily a good thing, since we have proven to play down to the level of the competition. Thats not good.....

I understand your point of view, however...I don't look at shedules or stats in that way, never have for the most part. I don't think records & stats matter overall when it's all said and done...never have. Any team is beatable, no matter how good their record, and any team can win, no matter how poor their record. I don't believe records & stats tell the 'whole story' of how good a team is or isn't. There are other factors I consider to, as to why I don't pay much attention to a teams previous record or stats when schedules are released, considering them a tough or easy team...such as:

1) From season to season team rosters change...including GM's & coaching staff...no two teams are identical from season to season. Simply because a team was a tough team one season, doesn't mean they will be the next.

2) A team can lose some of their best players to injuries, which also can change how easy or tough they are to compete against.

3) On any given Sunday...a so called bad team can beat a so called good team. There are too many variants at play to believe any opponent is an easy team to beat...hence: no shedule is "easy".

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:56 PM
This is a good game for the Chiefs believe it or not because it's going to open a lot of peoples eyes and give everyone a real honest assessment of our skillset

It can also get the players to light a fire under there rears. We did not show up with the same fight that denver did today. that is something that HAS to change. Oakland wanted it more last week and they took it denver wanted it more today.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 06:57 PM
cassel is playing ok. he is all the offense we have

SIC J
11-14-2010, 06:57 PM
Even with a loss, Cassel is putting up some big numbers. I see him gaining confidence and if he carries it into next week, Chiefs should have no problem bouncing back from this loss.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 06:57 PM
omg if Cassel cant see that blitz coming and call some form of audible - then all hope for the universe is lost. THat was a throwaway play before the snap

SIC J
11-14-2010, 06:59 PM
omg if Cassel cant see that blitz coming and call some form of audible - then all hope for the universe is lost. THat was a throwaway play before the snap

He's trying to make something happen. They're losing by 30+ points. Is it really that serious at this point or do you just need something to ***** about?

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 06:59 PM
Even with a loss, Cassel is putting up some big numbers. I see him gaining confidence and if he carries it into next week, Chiefs should have no problem bouncing back from this loss.

I agree. Theres going to be a lot of Cassel needs to go talk after this one. But if you look at this game we came out running and it got stuffed. All day long our run game has been stuffed. This one is not on Matt Cassel in any way shape or form. Yes he is part of it. But he does not play Defense. Our run game is worse then our passing today. WE STUNK it up today but Cassel has been decent. As has Bowe.

brdempsey69
11-14-2010, 07:00 PM
This is a good game for the Chiefs believe it or not because it's going to open a lot of peoples eyes and give everyone a real honest assessment of our skillset

You're right. If this doesn't put an end to all the self-delusion that was so prevalent during the off-season -- especially leading up to the 2010 draft -- then I don't know what will. If there's a stud OT available in the 2011 draft, then they damn well better take him.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:00 PM
omg if Cassel cant see that blitz coming and call some form of audible - then all hope for the universe is lost. THat was a throwaway play before the snap
it all starts with the pass protection. cassel is doing alright. he is all the offense

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:01 PM
He's trying to make something happen. They're losing by 30+ points. Is it really that serious at this point or do you just need something to ***** about?

Yes this is a very serious game if you havent noticed. If i were out on the field or coaching id have started playing hurry up offense starting off the 2nd quarter.

also the point is made that you cant be a good QB in this league and just let your team get SLAUGHTERED by blitzes all damn day. open your eyes. this is a call that Cassel needs to make if he sees a 3 man blitz up the middle. get someone out wide for christs sake.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:01 PM
omg if Cassel cant see that blitz coming and call some form of audible - then all hope for the universe is lost. THat was a throwaway play before the snap
it all starts with the pass protection. cassel is doing alright. he is all the offense

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:03 PM
way to go cassel

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:04 PM
it all starts with the pass protection. cassel is doing alright. he is all the offense

You cant pass protect a 3 man blitz thats the whole point of the blitz - its extreme pressure, and everyone knows Cassel sucks under pressure. So instead of waiting for your routes to 'develop' you need to come up with a different plan to thwart the pressure, like a quick dump option. This isnt rocket science. All the other successful QBs/teams in the league can handle this. I cant remember the last time weve done some form of audible after the D has shown their hand.

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:04 PM
Hell yeah!!!

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:05 PM
365 yards. 3 tds not bad from playing from behind

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:06 PM
yeah way to go on the onside kick

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:07 PM
Bull Shi!!!

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:07 PM
yup!

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 07:08 PM
No ma'am he's been playing incredible today 1 td 127 yards

aren't you listening to the game?

http://www.101thefox.net/ListenLive.aspx


YEEHAW!! * Way to go Bowe baby!!! That gives me something to be happy about related to this game...favorite player rocked it today!!! At least I won't be defending him all week for dropping a catch, lol.

:yahoo:

No, I was out of town for the weekend, returned home the game was already in the 2nd half. I came here to Chiefs Crowd looking for a free stream link as soon as I settled in myself & dogs in after being gone for 3 days. Couldn't find a stream, so turned on the radio...couldn't pull in 101 today at all. I'm a two hour drive from downtown KC...rural area, sometimes can't pull in 101 in bum frick no person's land, hahaha.

If all goes well on my behalf...I should be moved to Kansas City before Christmas...then I won't have all these issues being able to watch the game!!

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:08 PM
365 yards. 3 tds not bad from playing from behind

Our offense did not fail us our defense did

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:08 PM
yay way to go referees. another punch to our bruised and bleeding *****.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:10 PM
defense is terrible

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:11 PM
Anyone catch Colquit's dad wearing a Denver cap??

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:12 PM
now the defense is play like a NFL defense

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 07:13 PM
Our offense did not fail us our defense did

From re-reading the thread a bit slower this time not having to catch up with the game...it sounds to me like you are correct...defense failed. They've been failing the last 3 games, seem to be going downhill. :(

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:13 PM
what is the time on the clock again now? its covered up on this horrible web stream im watching.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:14 PM
oooook. 1st and 30! i like it. very fitting.

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:14 PM
Anyone catch Colquit's dad wearing a Denver cap??
guess he is the favorite son

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 07:15 PM
Anyone catch Colquit's dad wearing a Denver cap??


Noooooooo!!!???? Oh, that's just wrong.

OMGLadyGaga
11-14-2010, 07:15 PM
So many ppl ITT are complaining about our offense, and Cassel and Bowe, and our play calling, etc. BUT all the games we have lost is because we have either been tied or ahead and our defense couldnt stop them and this game our defense just embarrassed itself out there. For all the problems we have offensively, our real issues is that god awful pass defense. We give up too many yards at a time....bend but dont break my a**

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:16 PM
guess he is the favorite son

He probably had a Chiefs cap on then after the first quarter took it off, threw it on the ground, spat on it , then stomped on it a couple times.

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 07:16 PM
guess he is the favorite son

He'll probably wear Chiefs when we play them at Arrowhead.

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 07:18 PM
So many ppl ITT are complaining about our offense, and Cassel and Bowe, and our play calling, etc. BUT all the games we have lost is because we have either been tied or ahead and our defense couldnt stop them and this game our defense just embarrassed itself out there. For all the problems we have offensively, our real issues is that god awful pass defense. We give up too many yards at a time....bend but dont break my a**

Ditto! At least from reading this game thread it sounds like we did have a passing game today, though no defense against the pass. Hey, that's something positive any way. :/

Boxermm187
11-14-2010, 07:18 PM
schedule does not look all that easy now

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:20 PM
So many ppl ITT are complaining about our offense, and Cassel and Bowe, and our play calling, etc. BUT all the games we have lost is because we have either been tied or ahead and our defense couldnt stop them and this game our defense just embarrassed itself out there. For all the problems we have offensively, our real issues is that god awful pass defense. We give up too many yards at a time....bend but dont break my a**

This is been an issue since the start of the season, and is sort of a running trademark from my better memory of this team. Once the opposition figures out they dont have to worry about the 1st downs but just bomb it down field for big gains and big points, we're done for.

BTW sorry but the offense is indefensible. Only so many games in a row our O either blows the game or keeps it way too close before the D will break. Cant think of a team that has a great D with such a consistently BAD O.

Case and point. 4th and 18 and Cassel goes downtown. Not only does chambers commit PI offensively, but cassel's thrown ball wasnt even in the camera's field of view it was so overthrown.

This is NOT a recipe for a defensible offensive effort.

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:21 PM
Ditto! At least from reading this game thread it sounds like we did have a passing game today, though no defense against the pass. Hey, that's something positive any way. :/

We put up 23 points it very easily could have been 30, but we went for it on 4th twice because we were down by so much and we also went for two points and missed it. If your putting up 3 plus td's you should be most teams.

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 07:22 PM
Cassels numbers are inflated. Their defense has been conservative most the game. So many bad throws and lack of smart moves under pressure.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:22 PM
We put up 23 points it very easily could have been 30, but we went for it on 4th twice because we were down by so much and we also went for two points and missed it. If your putting up 3 plus td's you should be most teams.


Cmon man you cant seriously think that we've scored as many points as we have today because we were already blown out so bad. This is a very predictable thing to have happen to a team that is so far behind. look at cassels 400+ pass yards today. does that make him any better of a QB? no. The first 3 drives of 3 and outs and turn overs was a TRUE indicator of our offensive effort.

brish
11-14-2010, 07:24 PM
This is been an issue since the start of the season, and is sort of a running trademark from my better memory of this team. Once the opposition figures out they dont have to worry about the 1st downs but just bomb it down field for big gains and big points, we're done for.

BTW sorry but the offense is indefensible. Only so many games in a row our O either blows the game or keeps it way too close before the D will break. Cant think of a team that has a great D with such a consistently BAD O.

Case and point. 4th and 18 and Cassel goes downtown. Not only does chambers commit PI offensively, but cassel's thrown ball wasnt even in the camera's field of view it was so overthrown.

This is NOT a recipe for a defensible offensive effort.

Yeah but did you watch Chambers jogging down there?? he looks so slow..

What an awful day for the defence (or lack of).. Complete meltdown in the first half..

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:27 PM
Ditto! At least from reading this game thread it sounds like we did have a passing game today, though no defense against the pass. Hey, that's something positive any way. :/

Update Bowe 186 yards 2 td's if anyone talks smack on him this week they got something wrong with their head.

kilobytes
11-14-2010, 07:28 PM
Bowe played flawlessly. Cassel not so much. Inflated numbers

figcrostic
11-14-2010, 07:29 PM
Cmon man you cant seriously think that we've scored as many points as we have today because we were already blown out so bad. This is a very predictable thing to have happen to a team that is so far behind. look at cassels 400+ pass yards today. does that make him any better of a QB? no. The first 3 drives of 3 and outs and turn overs was a TRUE indicator of our offensive effort.

I'm not saying I'm happy with the way our offense played in the first half, but this loss should be put much more on the the defense then the offense.

OMGLadyGaga
11-14-2010, 07:29 PM
Cassel's numbers are definitely inflated, and Denvers defense played conservative to get him those gawdy numbers. But ud have to be pretty pessimistic to think that a 500yd 4td game isnt going to help his and the teams confidence in the passing game.

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 07:30 PM
Bowe played flawlessly. Cassel not so much. Inflated numbers

Cassel played well enough for us to win this game. The fumble can't happen but even if that does not happen we don't win this game. The whole team did not make plays today.

iratefan
11-14-2010, 07:32 PM
I'm not saying I'm happy with the way our offense played in the first half, but this loss should be put much more on the the defense then the offense.

Aye, ill agree with one thing. We have no D anymore. its out to lunch or was never clocked in to begin with.

brish
11-14-2010, 07:34 PM
DId Haley just refuse to shake McDaniels hand? :D

bspray
11-14-2010, 07:38 PM
DId Haley just refuse to shake McDaniels hand? :D

I hope he did. Challenging plays with a 30 point lead is bush league.

OMGLadyGaga
11-14-2010, 07:38 PM
Every single game either our offense shows up or our defense does.....never both at the same time. Frustrating loss...finished well cuda packed it in way sooner. At least we still have heart...next week AZ at home is winnable and its basically for our season.

Jonathan Fitz
11-14-2010, 07:38 PM
Yup..Pretty sure he snubbed McDaniels at the end. Any idea why?

OMGLadyGaga
11-14-2010, 07:42 PM
Wierd that Angler is always being so negative even in games we win...but in the one game we get blown out he's nowhere to be found. Sad to say i watched that entire game..and well we were competitive in the 2nd half lol. At least it doesnt hurt as much as the Houston or Oakland losses...this one was kinda funny.

SIC J
11-14-2010, 07:58 PM
Cassels numbers are inflated. Their defense has been conservative most the game. So many bad throws and lack of smart moves under pressure.

Please explain? Maybe I watched a different game but the Bronco defense didn't let up. They continued to blitz and put pressure on Cassel the ENTIRE GAME UNTIL IT WAS OVER. Bailey played hard all game and he got ripped apart. In fact, at one point he was told to come out of the game and he said no.

Cassel showed life and opened up the passing game. I don't care what you think but 469 yards passing is HUGE no matter what excuse you try to use. He also threw 50 passes and had ZERO interceptions. Thats good no matter how you look at it.

tornadospotter
11-14-2010, 08:05 PM
Please explain? Maybe I watched a different game but the Bronco defense didn't let up. They continued to blitz and put pressure on Cassel the ENTIRE GAME UNTIL IT WAS OVER. Bailey played hard all game and he got ripped apart. In fact, at one point he was told to come out of the game and he said no.

Cassel showed life and opened up the passing game. I don't care what you think but 469 yards passing is HUGE no matter what excuse you try to use. He also threw 50 passes and had ZERO interceptions. Thats good no matter how you look at it.
He still does not perform, how many knock down passes, how many time did he hang on to the ball to long. He is not making plays, when they are needed. I am just not thrilled with him. jmo

Ryfo18
11-14-2010, 08:07 PM
He still does not perform, how many knock down passes, how many time did he hang on to the ball to long. He is not making plays, when they are needed. I am just not thrilled with him. jmo

Did he need to throw 8 TD passes?

chief31
11-14-2010, 08:11 PM
Did he need to throw 8 TD passes?

I think he did need eight. :lol:

fairladyZ
11-14-2010, 08:14 PM
I'm tired of watching Chris Chambers JOG down the field and not try.

Belcher is HORRID in pass coverage...
That is all i will say about this horrid game... But Cassel played lights out.. I was calling for brodie after he wouldn't throw the ball and was getting sacked but he opened up a can in the 2nd half

josh1971
11-14-2010, 08:33 PM
Raiders and Broncos fans can laugh and enjoy their little victories. My guess is that it's going to be VERY different for each of these teams full of clowns when they visit Arrowhead later in the season.

We're 5-4, still tied for first in the division, and we get another, angrier, hungrier shot at these wankers in a few weeks.

tornadospotter
11-14-2010, 09:15 PM
Did he need to throw 8 TD passes?
He needed to preform better in the half that mattered, before it got out of hand.

Ryfo18
11-14-2010, 09:16 PM
He needed to preform better in the half that mattered, before it got out of hand.

It was out of hand in the first quarter. The defense did him no favors.

fairladyZ
11-14-2010, 09:22 PM
i think cassel falls to player # 40 on the list of needed to perform better today..

Every single Defensive player rounded out the top 20 on this team of needing to improve and step up.

tornadospotter
11-14-2010, 09:23 PM
It was out of hand in the first quarter. The defense did him no favors.
There is no doubt that the defense failed.

matthewschiefs
11-14-2010, 09:45 PM
He needed to preform better in the half that mattered, before it got out of hand.

Thats the story with the WHOLE team not just Cassle. Lets face it we came out trying to run the ball FAILED we started the game Failing on D we just FAILED everything until the game was already over.

Connie Jo
11-14-2010, 10:03 PM
They're probably trying to make up for their a$$ kicking they got by the Raiders. Trying to keep the momentum going into next week against the Chargers. To be honest, I hope they do play the same way against the Chargers.

I speculate it's more along the lines of we embarrassed the Bronco's in their house the season finale of 2009, knocked them out of any wild card hope. A team doesn't forget a divison rival spanking like that, playoff hope killed.

They had their revenge today. :(


cassel is playing ok. he is all the offense we have

No, we had D-Bowe too!! :D


We put up 23 points it very easily could have been 30, but we went for it on 4th twice because we were down by so much and we also went for two points and missed it. If your putting up 3 plus td's you should be most teams.

I agree...the numbers from Cassel and Bowe should've been enough to win.


Update Bowe 186 yards 2 td's if anyone talks smack on him this week they got something wrong with their head.

Yep!!! He had a career record day, and he tied a historic 1960's Chiefs record too!! Only 3 WR's in the history of the Chiefs have had 5 consecutive games with TD's...Chris Buford, Otis Taylor...and now Dwayne Bowe!!! That's a lot of years between Taylor and Bowe for us to not have had a WR capable of such!


Cassel played well enough for us to win this game. The fumble can't happen but even if that does not happen we don't win this game. The whole team did not make plays today.

I couldn't watch the game, so have been reading here and other places around the net, including NFL.com for game highlights. Based upon what I know from reading only...I agree. Problem is...this is 3 wks in a row the team as whole didn't play well. The exception today was Bowe & Cassel did play well together...both had career record high days.


Please explain? Maybe I watched a different game but the Bronco defense didn't let up. They continued to blitz and put pressure on Cassel the ENTIRE GAME UNTIL IT WAS OVER. Bailey played hard all game and he got ripped apart. In fact, at one point he was told to come out of the game and he said no.

Cassel showed life and opened up the passing game. I don't care what you think but 469 yards passing is HUGE no matter what excuse you try to use. He also threw 50 passes and had ZERO interceptions. Thats good no matter how you look at it.

I agree!!! From what I've read around the net...Cassel played very well today overall, and with many negative factors against him. He proved he can pass, and proved we can have faith in him as a passing QB...he has what it takes!

Cassel and Bowe have been developing a great brotherly like relationship both on & off the field for quite a while now. Possibly, just possibly...today is the beginning of reaping the benefits from that close relationship. They're no Montana/Rice, but hey...who's to say they're not on their way to being the next great NFL QB & WR combo?! They both had a career record day today, despite the pitiful loss to Denver.


Raiders and Broncos fans can laugh and enjoy their little victories. My guess is that it's going to be VERY different for each of these teams full of clowns when they visit Arrowhead later in the season.

We're 5-4, still tied for first in the division, and we get another, angrier, hungrier shot at these wankers in a few weeks.

Yep!! The come to OUR HOUSE...and their paybacks will be hell at Arrowhead!!


i think cassel falls to player # 40 on the list of needed to perform better today..

Every single Defensive player rounded out the top 20 on this team of needing to improve and step up.

Ditto!!!

tornadospotter
11-14-2010, 10:08 PM
Thats the story with the WHOLE team not just Cassle. Lets face it we came out trying to run the ball FAILED we started the game Failing on D we just FAILED everything until the game was already over.
True, and this is the last I am going to say, on this game tonight. The defense did fail us. The run was shut down, but we could not pass the ball when we needed to, we could not make a play, when it was needed.

SIC J
11-15-2010, 01:45 AM
Did he need to throw 8 TD passes?

There's some people you will just NEVER satisfy.........

wilqb16
11-15-2010, 03:21 AM
I think Cassel played pretty well and the offensive passing game was as good as I've seen around here in a while.

Also, like Cassel or not, you have to respect his warrior like effort. He couldn't run the whole 2nd half and yet kept giving his best in spite of the fact the Chiefs were out of it. Would have been easy to have taken a seat and let Croyle have at it, but he kept battling.

Mind you, we easily could have put 45 points on the board. We got stopped on 4 cracks from the one and Cassel's fumble (turned Denver TD) was deep in the red zone.

However, our defense was awful, and I am not sure why it was so bad. Never thought I'd be longing to see McGraw out there, but it wasn't just the safeties. Hali got no pressure and everyone on the front three was a no show. Flowers had his second bad game in two weeks IMO.

Good news is that we get everyone back @ Arrowhead and I think it will be a different story. I also think we kick the tar out of AZ this week and then put this game behind us.

Chief4Ever&Ever
11-15-2010, 09:30 AM
Horrible, pathetic, embarrassing! Cassell looked like a Pro bowler, Bowe has turned into an elite WR, and our D played like a bunch of cheerleaders! They forgot to take their skirts off before the game and Denver punched us in the mouth from the start! Pathetic showing by our D, Cassell showed that he can be a great QB, even with getting sacked multiple times! Horrible game, we just lost to the faiders and the donks in a row! This has been a bad month! The good news is, next week we are at home where we are unstoppable! We take it 31-10 and get back on track to win our division! We have the faiders and the donkeys at home and we will get back on top! Chief 4 Life!

Canada
11-21-2010, 10:49 PM
Bwaaaahaaaaaa! 2nd place baby! Wow! Slapped around by the Steelers!

Great Job :lol:

Chiefster
11-22-2010, 12:28 AM
The Fox affiliate in my area aired the Cowgirl's game! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

chief31
11-22-2010, 12:31 AM
The good news is, next week we are at home where we are unstoppable! We take it 31-10 and get back on track to win our division! We have the faiders and the donkeys at home and we will get back on top! Chief 4 Life!

Wow. Pretty good call. :D