F@rking HERM!

[hermhater]

I was listening to his press conference on www.kcchiefs.com

That guy is comfortable with a 3 point lead.

He also mentioned how penalties are killing us, like it isn't his fault the players aren't mentally prepared.

Get this guy some brains or get him out of town.

[tornadospotter]

I was listening to his press conference on www.kcchiefs.com (http://www.kcchiefs.com)

That guy is comfortable with a 3 point lead.

He also mentioned how penalties are killing us, like it isn't his fault the players aren't mentally prepared.

Get this guy some brains or get him out of town.
I am begining to believe that you do not like Herm.:yahoo: :lol: :yahoo:

[hermhater]

I am begining to believe that you do not like Herm.:yahoo: :lol: :yahoo:

You, my friend, are very astute!

[Coach]

I am begining to believe that you do not like Herm.:yahoo: :lol: :yahoo:

Awesome!

[tperkins73]

Solari is the problem and Herm needs to correct it! However, I feel like our team will be better off for having Herm as the coach.

[hermhater]

Solari is the problem and Herm needs to correct it! However, I feel like our team will be better off for having Herm as the coach.


I WANT to like HERM because he is such a nice guy.

But I will not allow ANYONE to mess with my CHIEFS and that is what he is doing!

He has helped us on defense (not because he is a defensive genius) because Dick V didn't really care how many points the other team scored because he was able to get about 50 a game, but I'm not defending him either.

We need someone with balance, to help us win more games, and to let fans on both sides of the ball rejoice!

[tornadospotter]

:anim-magicman: Let see if we can whip up some brain power for Herm, so that he can grasp the concept of touchdowns, and a 2 posestion lead and then run the smashmouth plays:bananen_smilies046:

[DrunkHillbilly]

I am not a Hem fan either but a coach can only do so much to "mentally" prepare a team. Penalties are a problem and are costing us valuable feild position. The players do have to play the game! These guys have been playin this game for 20 years!! They know the rules and most of these penalties are bull**** penalties that they should not be committing!

[hermhater]

I am not a Hem fan either but a coach can only do so much to "mentally" prepare a team. Penalties are a problem and are costing us valuable feild position. The players do have to play the game! These guys have been playin this game for 20 years!! They know the rules and most of these penalties are bull**** penalties that they should not be committing!

You can't be serious?

It is COMPLETELY the coaches fault for these penalties.

Not just HERM but all the coaches.

Whatever they are telling these guys in team meetings is not sinking in.

Discipline is equally important as talent in the NFL!

[hermhater]

I am not a Hem fan either but a coach can only do so much to "mentally" prepare a team. Penalties are a problem and are costing us valuable feild position. The players do have to play the game! These guys have been playin this game for 20 years!! They know the rules and most of these penalties are bull**** penalties that they should not be committing!


Just look at the Bengals.

[DrunkHillbilly]

Just look at the Bengals.

What are you going to do, scold them if they committ a penalty? Come on man, 99% of coaches give the same damn speech before every game. 99% of these players have been listening to the same speech their whole lives. How much preperation do they need?

[tornadospotter]

You can't be serious?

It is COMPLETELY the coaches fault for these penalties.

Not just HERM but all the coaches.

Whatever they are telling these guys in team meetings is not sinking in.

Discipline is equally important as talent in the NFL!
I have to agree with this. The coaches need to do a better job at discipline. Maybe they should start assessing fines, and maybe they do, if so increase the fines, seems that money talks with players.

[hermhater]

I am not a Hem fan either but a coach can only do so much to "mentally" prepare a team. Penalties are a problem and are costing us valuable feild position. The players do have to play the game! These guys have been playin this game for 20 years!! They know the rules and most of these penalties are bull**** penalties that they should not be committing!


I hate to agree with the worst QB in the NFL but I was just watching the post game press conference and Rex Grossman just said exactly what I did.

"All of the guys are talented, or they wouldn't be in the NFL. You have to have mental discipline in this league."

Does this make me wrong?

[DrunkHillbilly]

I have to agree with this. The coaches need to do a better job at discipline. Maybe they should start assessing fines, and maybe they do, if so increase the fines, seems that money talks with players.

You guys!!!!! These are grown *** men, not 10 year olds. Do they have any responsibility to NOT committ these penalties or is it just the coaches fault for not "preparing" them well enough???

[hermhater]

I have to agree with this. The coaches need to do a better job at discipline. Maybe they should start assessing fines, and maybe they do, if so increase the fines, seems that money talks with players.

Thank you that is what I was talking about.

If the players feel it in their wallets, they will start using the old noodle.

[tornadospotter]

You guys!!!!! These are grown *** men, not 10 year olds. Do they have any responsibility to NOT committ these penalties or is it just the coaches fault for not "preparing" them well enough???
Yes they are and money talks loudly to grown men. Rewarding with money also may work. My point is you get yelled at by a coach, so what. You lose money, you start to hear the coach.

[DrunkHillbilly]

I hate to agree with the worst QB in the NFL but I was just watching the post game press conference and Rex Grossman just said exactly what I did.

"All of the guys are talented, or they wouldn't be in the NFL. You have to have mental discipline in this league."

Does this make me wrong?

Never said you were wrong, just don't agree!! You can have any opinion you like, I don't have to agree!

They are talented. Like I said, do you think Dungy or Belichick gives a different speech than any other coach? On the contrary, they probably give less or no speech! The players they have are more self disciplined. Why should these professionals that are being payed millions have to be disciplined by someone else? Take some responsibility for yourself sometime for godsake!! You sure as hell are gonna take that paycheck on Monday!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

Yes they are and money talks loudly to grown men. Rewarding with money also may work. My point is you get yelled at by a coach, so what. You lose money, you start to hear the coach.

Doesn't work this way, never has.

[stlchief]

Hate to say it, but an "illegal shift" or "false start" or "12-men on the field" or "holding" or "pass interference" are all on the players. The only coaches penalty is delay of game.

That said: there are plenty of other reasons to hate Herm. Why try to argue about penalties? Let's go to play calling where we all agree... :D

And I think that is Herm, not Solari. Remember how excited Green was when Solari got the off. coord. position? Why? Because he was the QB coach. I don't think the QB coach goes from 35+ points a game to saying let's not throw the ball more than 5 yards.

That has to be on Herm and his "anti-arena-league" philosophy....

[tornadospotter]

Thank you that is what I was talking about.

If the players feel it in their wallets, they will start using the old noodle.
Or maybe we should start fining the coaches! Maybe that will stir up some better ways of getting the no penalty speach more evective.

[rbedgood]

Hate to say it, but an "illegal shift" or "false start" or "12-men on the field" or "holding" or "pass interference" are all on the players. The only coaches penalty is delay of game.

That said: there are plenty of other reasons to hate Herm. Why try to argue about penalties? Let's go to play calling where we all agree... :D

And I think that is Herm, not Solari. Remember how excited Green was when Solari got the off. coord. position? Why? Because he was the QB coach. I don't think the QB coach goes from 35+ points a game to saying let's not throw the ball more than 5 yards.

That has to be on Herm and his "anti-arena-league" philosophy....

To further augment your 2nd argument, some of these penalties also can fall under "play-calling". The holding downfield is clearly a player issue...however pass interference can be a coaching contribution, for example if you put your corner on an island with no inside help and you have a corner who is better in zone (i.e. Law) then you're putting him in a position to commit pass interference. Sure it's still his fault, but the coach has to set his players up for success.

[DrunkHillbilly]

To further augment your 2nd argument, some of these penalties also can fall under "play-calling". The holding downfield is clearly a player issue...however pass interference can be a coaching contribution, for example if you put your corner on an island with no inside help and you have a corner who is better in zone (i.e. Law) then you're putting him in a position to commit pass interference. Sure it's still his fault, but the coach has to set his players up for success.

Speaking of Law, can this guy just hurry up and retire???? He got his *** handed to him today. Several times!!!

[tornadospotter]

Hate to say it, but an "illegal shift" or "false start" or "12-men on the field" or "holding" or "pass interference" are all on the players. The only coaches penalty is delay of game.

That said: there are plenty of other reasons to hate Herm. Why try to argue about penalties? Let's go to play calling where we all agree... :D

And I think that is Herm, not Solari. Remember how excited Green was when Solari got the off. coord. position? Why? Because he was the QB coach. I don't think the QB coach goes from 35+ points a game to saying let's not throw the ball more than 5 yards.

That has to be on Herm and his "anti-arena-league" philosophy....
I agree, and speaking of the anti-arena-league philosophy, why are we not gettin Sippio into the game. Am I missing some info here. I think TG, DB, Sippio in the mix will great some plays

[hermhater]

Hate to say it, but an "illegal shift" or "false start" or "12-men on the field" or "holding" or "pass interference" are all on the players. The only coaches penalty is delay of game.

That said: there are plenty of other reasons to hate Herm. Why try to argue about penalties? Let's go to play calling where we all agree... :D

And I think that is Herm, not Solari. Remember how excited Green was when Solari got the off. coord. position? Why? Because he was the QB coach. I don't think the QB coach goes from 35+ points a game to saying let's not throw the ball more than 5 yards.

That has to be on Herm and his "anti-arena-league" philosophy....


The play calling, the mental errors, the embarrassing press conferences, the poor decision making starting players...

I could go on but I think it is GLARINGLY obvious this can be put on the coaching.

The players all have talent or guys like us would be walking around on the field.

It takes a coach who can get their players to listen to fundamentals of the game, and HERM is teaching the wrong fundamentals to these guys.

He just doesn't know what he's doing.

[DrunkHillbilly]

The play calling, the mental errors, the embarrassing press conferences, the poor decision making starting players...

I could go on but I think it is GLARINGLY obvious this can be put on the coaching.

The players all have talent or guys like us would be walking around on the field.

It takes a coach who can get their players to listen to fundamentals of the game, and HERM is teaching the wrong fundamentals to these guys.

He just doesn't know what he's doing.

Seriously bro, should we blame the players for the coaches bad press conferences?

[rbedgood]

Speaking of Law, can this guy just hurry up and retire???? He got his *** handed to him today. Several times!!!

My point exactly...by putting him in a position to have to cover in man, rather than a cover2 zone or rolled safety help to his side, the coaches put him in a position to either commit pass interference or get burned. Good coaching is about teaching discipline, etc, but also putting your players in a position to use their strengths.

[hermhater]

Seriously bro, should we blame the players for the coaches bad press conferences?

Who's blaming the players?

We have great talent and are not using it!

[DrunkHillbilly]

My point exactly...by putting him in a position to have to cover in man, rather than a cover2 zone or rolled safety help to his side, the coaches put him in a position to either commit pass interference or get burned. Good coaching is about teaching discipline, etc, but also putting your players in a position to use their strengths.

I'll agree with coaching is about positioning them to use their strengths but at some point these players have to be held responsible for their own actions.

[DrunkHillbilly]

Who's blaming the players?

We have great talent and are not using it!

You want to blame the coaches for the players mistakes so I thought maybe the players should be blamed for the coaches mistakes!

[hermhater]

You want to blame the coaches for the players mistakes so I thought maybe the players should be blamed for the coaches mistakes!

Well that is original thought, but the players aren't the only millionaires on the team.

HERM isn't taking out payday loans himself.

The players are rebels with physical talent. The coaches are supposed to be the brains that flex the muscle (the players).

[DrunkHillbilly]

Well that is original thought, but the players aren't the only millionaires on the team.

HERM isn't taking out payday loans himself.

The players are rebels with physical talent. The coaches are supposed to be the brains that flex the muscle (the players).

This is comical.

[hermhater]

This is comical.

I agree. I get carried away when HERM is the topic.

The players are making mistakes and alot of it seems to be out of frustration, because of the play calling.

Stop causing penalties (especially at home) guys.

[DrunkHillbilly]

I agree. I get carried away when HERM is the topic.

The players are making mistakes and alot of it seems to be out of frustration, because of the play calling.

Stop causing penalties (especially at home) guys.

Fair enough.

[Chiefster]

Fair enough.

That's it??? Fair enough???

I expected so much more from you DrunkHillbilly; I'm truly disappointed. :sign0153::D

[DrunkHillbilly]

That's it??? Fair enough???

I expected so much more from you DrunkHillbilly; I'm truly disappointed. :sign0153::D

I was afraid of the beat down that may have been in order from the mods because I was on the verge..............

[hermhater]

That's it??? Fair enough???

I expected so much more from you DrunkHillbilly; I'm truly disappointed. :sign0153::D

Hey instigator!

We shook hands and made up.

Don't send the hillbilly after me please. :lol:

[DrunkHillbilly]

Hey instigator!

We shook hands and made up.

Don't send the hillbilly after me please. :lol:
Arrrrrrrr....arrrrrrrrrrr...rrrrrrrrrrr....hick up.....rrrrrrrrrrrr

[hermhater]

Arrrrrrrr....arrrrrrrrrrr...rrrrrrrrrrr....hick up.....rrrrrrrrrrrr


Hey guy! I am catching up to you in posts!

I hadn't found this site before the third game I'm assuming that is why you don't have more arrowcash because of betting on Chiefs wins the first two weeks????

[Chiefster]

I was afraid of the beat down that may have been in order from the mods because I was on the verge..............

Yeah, but it's so fun! :11:
j/k


Hey instigator!

We shook hands and made up.

Don't send the hillbilly after me please. :lol:

But it's sooooo entertaining! :D

[rbedgood]

Hey guy! I am catching up to you in posts!

I hadn't found this site before the third game I'm assuming that is why you don't have more arrowcash because of betting on Chiefs wins the first two weeks????

Most of us got cleaned out of Arrowcash in weekone...the bookie "accidentally" posted incorrect odds on LJ surpassing 70 yards, payout was like 12/1 or something. Anyhow it seemed like an easy win and many of us laid big Arrowcash down on that result, only to see LJ get limited to 10 carries in that first game.

[hermhater]

Most of us got cleaned out of Arrowcash in weekone...the bookie "accidentally" posted incorrect odds on LJ surpassing 70 yards, payout was like 12/1 or something. Anyhow it seemed like an easy win and many of us laid big Arrowcash down on that result, only to see LJ get limited to 10 carries in that first game.

Well this was my first betting week, and I went pretty conservative with my bets except for the obvious wins.

I think I did OK, no?

[Chiefster]

Well this was my first betting week, and I went pretty conservative with my bets except for the obvious wins.

I think I did OK, no?

You have done well!

This endorsement of said ability will only cost you $24,000 in Arrowcash. :D

[rbedgood]

You have done well!

This endorsement of said ability will only cost you $24,000 in Arrowcash. :D

Hermhater, looks like you're getting the Friends & Family discount...Chiefster's retainer usually starts at $100,000

[hermhater]

Hermhater, looks like you're getting the Friends & Family discount...Chiefster's retainer usually starts at $100,000

I got it like that!

[Chiefster]

Hermhater, looks like you're getting the Friends & Family discount...Chiefster's retainer usually starts at $100,000

...A one day special; I was feeling exceptionally generous.

[DrunkHillbilly]

Hey guy! I am catching up to you in posts!

I hadn't found this site before the third game I'm assuming that is why you don't have more arrowcash because of betting on Chiefs wins the first two weeks????

Thats cuz your a whore!!!!!!!:lol: :sign0098:

[hermhater]

Thats cuz your a whore!!!!!!!:lol: :sign0098:


I whore a lot, but I think I add a few interesting threads also.

:sign0103:

[rbedgood]

Thats cuz your a whore!!!!!!!:lol: :sign0098:

Smirk...chuckle...mumble..."pot calling kettle black"...mumble...

[Guru]

Most of us got cleaned out of Arrowcash in weekone...the bookie "accidentally" posted incorrect odds on LJ surpassing 70 yards, payout was like 12/1 or something. Anyhow it seemed like an easy win and many of us laid big Arrowcash down on that result, only to see LJ get limited to 10 carries in that first game.

And some of us made money on that too. :D

[rbedgood]

And some of us made money on that too. :D

There's one in every CROWD...seriously though I went into that week figuring that "limited" for LJ meant less than 30 carries...not less than 12...

[Guru]

There's one in every CROWD...seriously though I went into that week figuring that "limited" for LJ meant less than 30 carries...not less than 12...

I trust Herm to do the wrong thing.

[Chiefster]

I trust Herm to do the wrong thing.


Sadly, Herm seems to never disappoint in this regard.

[hermhater]

Sadly, Herm seems to never disappoint in this regard.

I see now why you are called Guru, sensei!

[Chiefster]

I see now why you are called Guru, sensei!

It is important that one pays close attention to whom one quotes.

[hermhater]

I trust Herm to do the wrong thing.

I was referring to this one.

Sorry.

[hermhater]

Did I screw it up again?

[Guru]

Did I screw it up again?

Nope, you did it right this time.

[Chiefster]

I was referring to this one.

Sorry.

...For what dude??? :D

[chief31]

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I finished your reply there hillbilly.