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dragons5
09-24-2007, 12:41 AM
To celebrate "Hispanic Heritage Month" The NFL is forcing their affiliates to play spanish language ads, have spanish language singers and refer to Football as "Futbol Americano"

The network doesn't seem to care that 100% of their audience speaks and understands english and instead is trying to push their own website www.nflatino.com without giving care to the rest of their audience.

I for one will quit watching football for the next month. What will you do?

hermhater
09-24-2007, 12:43 AM
To celebrate "Hispanic Heritage Month" The NFL is forcing their affiliates to play spanish language ads, have spanish language singers and refer to Football as "Futbol Americano"

The network doesn't seem to care that 100% of their audience speaks and understands english and instead is trying to push their own website www.nflatino.com (http://www.nflatino.com) without giving care to the rest of their audience.

I for one will quit watching football for the next month. What will you do?


I don't care what they do, I will still watch the Chiefs.

The NFL is pretty greedy, but you have to love your team!

rbedgood
09-24-2007, 12:45 AM
To celebrate "Hispanic Heritage Month" The NFL is forcing their affiliates to play spanish language ads, have spanish language singers and refer to Football as "Futbol Americano"

The network doesn't seem to care that 100% of their audience speaks and understands english and instead is trying to push their own website www.nflatino.com (http://www.nflatino.com) without giving care to the rest of their audience.

I for one will quit watching football for the next month. What will you do?

I live in Phoenix, and grew up in California. I've become accustomed over my life to most everything being bilingual. This doesn't bother me nearly as much as it is a privately owned business...what bothers me is when my taxes foot the bill for things being in multiple languages. (drivers license tests, election materials, etc.)

dragons5
09-24-2007, 12:47 AM
I don't care what they do, I will still watch the Chiefs.

The NFL is pretty greedy, but you have to love your team!

That's a shame. I like my team too, but I won't let the NFL force me and my nation into this bi-lingual nonsense. Especially when anyone watching CBS, FOX, NBC or ESPN already speaks and understands english. To me it's a slap in the face and racist.

stlchief
09-24-2007, 12:48 AM
I don't care what they do, I will still watch the Chiefs.

The NFL is pretty greedy, but you have to love your team!

AGREED and then AGREED again.

If you want to be a real Chiefs fan, you mute the TV & turn on www.kcfx.com (http://www.kcfx.com) and listen to real announcers, despite the delay.

Cerveza, por favor. :toast2:
Chiefs - MUI BIEN! Ariba ariba!:yahoo:

VIVA LA CHIEFS!

hermhater
09-24-2007, 12:49 AM
That's a shame. I like my team too, but I won't let the NFL force me and my nation into this bi-lingual nonsense. Especially when anyone watching CBS, FOX, NBC or ESPN already speaks and understands english. To me it's a slap in the face and racist.

Hey guy I'm not racist.

Would it hurt you to learn a new language?

Almost every other nation teaches english to their students.

We could use a little more relations with our international brethren.

I don't think we all need to learn spanish but it's not the end of the USA, is it?

timsatt1
09-24-2007, 12:49 AM
I live in Phoenix, and grew up in California. I've become accustomed over my life to most everything being bilingual. This doesn't bother me nearly as much as it is a privately owned business...what bothers me is when my taxes foot the bill for things being in multiple languages. (drivers license tests, election materials, etc.)


you can add to that list paying for the illegals children to go to school, and soon to add on the list....paying for illegal immigrants free national healthcare.

timsatt1
09-24-2007, 12:52 AM
Hey guy I'm not racist.

Would it hurt you to learn a new language?

Almost every other nation teaches english to their students.

We could use a little more relations with our international brethren.

I don't think we all need to learn spanish but it's not the end of the USA, is it?

it is headed towards the end of the USA as it once was, and is turning more into a socialist state every day. Keep on giving up your freedoms people. Nah, im not talking about wire tapping. Big deal. Im talking about government regulations, accomidating your lives for global warming nonsense, paying for your neighbors health care, being taxed for "emmisions" you are putting into the air. some crazy stuff.

hermhater
09-24-2007, 12:54 AM
it is headed towards the end of the USA as it once was, and is turning more into a socialist state every day. Keep on giving up your freedoms people. Nah, im not talking about wire tapping. Big deal. Im talking about government regulations, accomidating your lives for global warming nonsense, paying for your neighbors health care, being taxed for "emmisions" you are putting into the air. some crazy stuff.

Well that is a pretty biased opinion about the USA.

We used to be about people loving us because of our freedoms. They are disappearing at an alarming rate in my opinion.

Seriously what is the deal with Spanish?

It's not that hard to learn.

Have an open mind.

stlchief
09-24-2007, 12:56 AM
This is not a political board. I think we can leave it outside. The spanish in the NFL is all about $, so it is economics. If you want to sell TV deals & jerseys in spanish speaking countries, you have to show the love.

I would say new thread for "illegals & racists". I have lots to say there, but it's not related to the CHIEFS and that's all I care about today!

Let's focus on the football / NFL here....

just my opinion....

And realistically, I doubt too many on the board on game day after the first win care to hear about racists theories...

rbedgood
09-24-2007, 12:56 AM
it is headed towards the end of the USA as it once was, and is turning more into a socialist state every day. Keep on giving up your freedoms people. Nah, im not talking about wire tapping. Big deal. Im talking about government regulations, accomidating your lives for global warming nonsense, paying for your neighbors health care, being taxed for "emmisions" you are putting into the air. some crazy stuff.

Timsat...please don't misunderstand my comment about Fox News last week as an argument to your positions...I suspect we agree on more things than not, I just find most TV news sources to be biased and low on information, in one form or another. I tend to spend more time researching for news info on a few blog sites and a couple of radio programs that I prefer.

timsatt1
09-24-2007, 12:58 AM
This is not a political board. I think we can leave it outside. The spanish in the NFL is all about $, so it is economics. If you want to sell TV deals & jerseys in spanish speaking countries, you have to show the love.

I would say new thread for "illegals & racists". I have lots to say there, but it's not related to the CHIEFS and that's all I care about today!

Let's focus on the football / NFL here....

just my opinion....




And realistically, I doubt too many on the board on game day after the first win care to hear about racists theories...


ok sorry, i am big into politics...ill try and settle down and keep it football.

stlchief
09-24-2007, 01:00 AM
I think all political discussions between open-minded people are good. Just not today.

:D

hermhater
09-24-2007, 01:08 AM
They are showing the pathetic performance of SD on sportscenter now..

I love FAVRE!

stlchief
09-24-2007, 01:09 AM
me too. could we possibly do a couple deep crossing patterns and get a pick-up of more than 25 yrds next week?

hermhater
09-24-2007, 01:11 AM
me too. could we possibly do a couple deep crossing patterns and get a pick-up of more than 25 yrds next week?

Did HERM get fired in the last 15 minutes?

If not then NO we cannot do that.

rbedgood
09-24-2007, 01:16 AM
Did HERM get fired in the last 15 minutes?

If not then NO we cannot do that.

Teaser...I heard 90% of you applauding and cheering when you read this first line...:lol:

stlchief
09-24-2007, 01:22 AM
Teaser...I heard 90% of you applauding and cheering when you read this first line...:lol:


I had already started google-ing "Chiefs fire coach".

dang. :(

sling58
09-24-2007, 07:32 AM
To celebrate "Hispanic Heritage Month" The NFL is forcing their affiliates to play spanish language ads, have spanish language singers and refer to Football as "Futbol Americano"

The network doesn't seem to care that 100% of their audience speaks and understands english and instead is trying to push their own website www.nflatino.com (http://www.nflatino.com) without giving care to the rest of their audience.

I for one will quit watching football for the next month. What will you do?

I won't quit watching the Chiefs but I do do think it's crap that I have to listen to Spansih when I live in the USA. Where is American Heritage month at?

dragons5
09-24-2007, 08:54 AM
Hey guy I'm not racist.

Would it hurt you to learn a new language?

Almost every other nation teaches english to their students.

We could use a little more relations with our international brethren.

I don't think we all need to learn spanish but it's not the end of the USA, is it?

Who cares what other countries do? There are multiple reasons why this is wrong:

1. Foreign language tv and radio stations would never broadcast anything in English, yet we english speakers must be forced to learn a new language to accomodate one group of people?

2. The USA is a nation built by Chinese, Africans, Arabics, Indians (native and East), Japanese, French, German, Polish, Hispanic, Irish, Russian, Jewish etc..... And yet corporate America has sliced us into two groups. English speaking vs. Spanish.

3. Hispanic Heritage month celebrates leaders like those who fought at the Alamo and Cesar Chavez. They all fought to break away from Spain / Mexico and all spoke English. We do a dis service to their memories by forcing Spanish upon an English speaking nation.

4. There are millions of Hispanics who do not speak Spanish at all. I work closely with 8 hispanics and only one of them knows any spanish at all.

5. I see nothing wrong with people learning a new language, but being forced to learn that language so you can watch TV programming just so the NFL and GE/NBC can pander to "the fastest growing demographic" is a crock of crap and I will not stand for it.

6. NBC owns Telemundo, they could easily have simulcast on the two stations. Spanish on Telemundo and English on NBC. People watching NBC ALREADY KNOW ENGLISH. This is a clear cut racist act to build programming for only one race on a National network.

dragons5
09-24-2007, 09:06 AM
Well hey, i understand not wanting to stop watching your team. but if your upset over this b.s. then at least call the NFL and tell them:
(212) 450-2000

dragons5
09-24-2007, 09:25 AM
News article on the growing sell out.


NFL Taps Vidal for Hispanic Outreach
September 03, 2007
By Nancy Ayala

'The beauty of this campaign that Vidal crafted was the humor,' said Rob Stecklow, the NFL's ad director.

NEW YORK When Monday Night Football airs on ESPN, don't be surprised to hear Spanish emanating from your set during commercial time.

The NFL is doing its part to recognize the growing legion of Latino "American Football" fans who also will be glued to the game. The new Spanish-language campaign chant will be "Juntense"—or, the command, "Get Together"—created by New York-based Hispanic advertising agency The Vidal Partnership (TVP), which debuts Sept. 10.

It will not be the first time the NFL airs Spanish-language spots during the games, but the commercials will get significantly more air time than in the past. The Spanish-language commercials will include two 30-second spots and four 10-second IDs that will be rotated during the televised games on ESPN and NBC, as well as on CBS and Fox. The NBC Universal-owned Telemundo and ESPN Deportes also will air the spots. Univision Radio will air a 30-second commercial beginning Sept. 10, also by TVP.

"The beauty of this campaign that Vidal crafted was the humor," said Rob Stecklow, director of advertising for the NFL. "We never looked at that kind of advertising for the Hispanic community. In the past, we had a more PSA approach, more community-based on using football and using players."

He likens the new campaign to taking "a bit of a page from our [general-market] work," by BBDO, playing up the fun in sports.

"What we liked about Vidal is that, just like BBDO, they wanted to push it, they wanted it to be big, to be funny," said Stecklow, who can see TVP getting in earlier in the creative process next year (the agency came on board in July). "They really want people buzzing about the work."

The 30-second spots include humorous acknowledgements by Latinos about being an American football fan, versus the usually subscribed soccer fan label. The 10-second IDs depict playful, culturally relevant themes, such as a Latino in a Norteño hat wearing a Dallas Cowboys jersey or an in-home altar in adoration of the Miami Dolphins.

"We started with the idea that there is a fan base, and they have a greater emotional connection [to the NFL]," said Tony Ruiz, partner and CSO at TVP

tornadospotter
09-24-2007, 12:10 PM
Who cares what other countries do? There are multiple reasons why this is wrong:

1. Foreign language tv and radio stations would never broadcast anything in English, yet we English speakers must be forced to learn a new language to accomodate one group of people?

2. The USA is a nation built by Chinese, Africans, Arabics, Indians (native and East), Japanese, French, German, Polish, Hispanic, Irish, Russian, Jewish etc..... And yet corporate America has sliced us into two groups. English speaking vs. Spanish.

3. Hispanic Heritage month celebrates leaders like those who fought at the Alamo and Cesar Chavez. They all fought to break away from Spain / Mexico and all spoke English. We do a dis service to their memories by forcing Spanish upon an English speaking nation.

4. There are millions of Hispanics who do not speak Spanish at all. I work closely with 8 hispanics and only one of them knows any spanish at all.

5. I see nothing wrong with people learning a new language, but being forced to learn that language so you can watch TV programming just so the NFL and GE/NBC can pander to "the fastest growing demographic" is a crock of crap and I will not stand for it.

6. NBC owns Telemundo, they could easily have simulcast on the two stations. Spanish on Telemundo and English on NBC. People watching NBC ALREADY KNOW ENGLISH. This is a clear cut racist act to build programming for only one race on a National network.
Just my opinion, you live here, you work here, you receive benefits here, Then learn to speak English. I am tired of this in our nation. We need to declare that if you want to live here and want citizenship, you must first learn basic English.

rbedgood
09-24-2007, 12:42 PM
Just my opinion, you live here, you work here, you receive benefits here, Then learn to speak English. I am tired of this in our nation. We need to declare that if you want to live here and want citizenship, you must first learn basic English.

Write your senator/congress person...as of now, that declaration would be very weak as the US has no official language by law. As for this situation, from what I hear it's mostly the commercials that will be in spanish...so what? I'll be visiting the fridge or flipping to the other game (daytime) at this point. Al and John last night translated Cowboys to "Vaqueros"...wish they'd have said "Vaqueras" on accident. They also translated the Bears to Osos.

The play-by-play and analysis was still in English...

This is much ado about nothing...we have serious issues in our country, but the NFL's decision to market to the spanish speaking market is not one of them.

National security, border security, and conversion to socialism concern me much more than spanish. I speak spanish, but chose to learn it not because I needed to but because it gives me more marketability and ability at work. I don't feel that public forums (government services) should accomodate language issues, but the NFL is the private sector. Their choice to operate in whatever language should be just that...if they feel running some commercials in spanish and translating the scoreboard on the TV screen to two languages will bring in more consumers, then they should go ahead. That is the business side of the game.

(no current official language-sources)
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_lang.html
http://www.us-english.org/inc/

m0ef0e
09-24-2007, 04:02 PM
Write your senator/congress person...as of now, that declaration would be very weak as the US has no official language by law. As for this situation, from what I hear it's mostly the commercials that will be in spanish...so what? I'll be visiting the fridge or flipping to the other game (daytime) at this point. Al and John last night translated Cowboys to "Vaqueros"...wish they'd have said "Vaqueras" on accident. They also translated the Bears to Osos.

The play-by-play and analysis was still in English...

This is much ado about nothing...we have serious issues in our country, but the NFL's decision to market to the spanish speaking market is not one of them.

National security, border security, and conversion to socialism concern me much more than spanish. I speak spanish, but chose to learn it not because I needed to but because it gives me more marketability and ability at work. I don't feel that public forums (government services) should accomodate language issues, but the NFL is the private sector. Their choice to operate in whatever language should be just that...if they feel running some commercials in spanish and translating the scoreboard on the TV screen to two languages will bring in more consumers, then they should go ahead. That is the business side of the game.

(no current official language-sources)
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_lang.html
http://www.us-english.org/inc/

Good post. I won't stop watching football because COMMERCIALS are in Spanish. I won't even be watching the commercials anyway. What do I care? I care about politics and such to a certain extent but this is getting blown way out of proportion. I will NEVER stop watching football.

hermhater
09-24-2007, 04:11 PM
Good post. I won't stop watching football because COMMERCIALS are in Spanish. I won't even be watching the commercials anyway. What do I care? I care about politics and such to a certain extent but this is getting blown way out of proportion. I will NEVER stop watching football.

Exactly. Football transcends nations and peoples.

I am glad they are trying to broaden the fan base.

Let them have exposure to something besides soccer for gods sake.

They don't know any better!

rbedgood
09-24-2007, 08:23 PM
Exactly. Football transcends nations and peoples.

I am glad they are trying to broaden the fan base.

Let them have exposure to something besides soccer for gods sake.

They don't know any better!

Soccer is a waste of good grass...

stlchief
09-24-2007, 11:21 PM
Who cares what other countries do? There are multiple reasons why this is wrong:

1. Foreign language tv and radio stations would never broadcast anything in English, yet we english speakers must be forced to learn a new language to accomodate one group of people?

2. The USA is a nation built by Chinese, Africans, Arabics, Indians (native and East), Japanese, French, German, Polish, Hispanic, Irish, Russian, Jewish etc..... And yet corporate America has sliced us into two groups. English speaking vs. Spanish.

3. Hispanic Heritage month celebrates leaders like those who fought at the Alamo and Cesar Chavez. They all fought to break away from Spain / Mexico and all spoke English. We do a dis service to their memories by forcing Spanish upon an English speaking nation.

4. There are millions of Hispanics who do not speak Spanish at all. I work closely with 8 hispanics and only one of them knows any spanish at all.

5. I see nothing wrong with people learning a new language, but being forced to learn that language so you can watch TV programming just so the NFL and GE/NBC can pander to "the fastest growing demographic" is a crock of crap and I will not stand for it.

6. NBC owns Telemundo, they could easily have simulcast on the two stations. Spanish on Telemundo and English on NBC. People watching NBC ALREADY KNOW ENGLISH. This is a clear cut racist act to build programming for only one race on a National network.

1)
That was the funniest thing I've ever read! Do you really think the average american as an adult would be able to learn a foreign language? Even to watch football?

NO WAY. If you had to learn it to listen to the commentary, 99.9% of the households in the USA would have the tv on mute and some music playing on the side (or would leave the volume on just to hear the crowd and mentally block out the jibber-jabber they didn't understand).

I think we can all settle down a little. No one made the NFL do this. They want $. No one will make you watch the game. You will do it because you love football....

3) Ceaser Chavez would give a rat's a$$ about the NFL doing a few commericials & calling it "futbol americano"? c'mon....

4) I know a Hispanic who speaks Chinese, so I will generalize and say Hispanic month should mean broadcasting in Chinese.

Dude - get a grip. It's one game. Gloria Estefan is singing the national anthem. There will be a spanish band @ half time. The players will wear a patch that says: "Fútbol Americano - Celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month" (<-- Does anyone else see humor in the patch being in English?) If you already have a spanish channel, you can see the game - in Spanish.

Some how, someone in the NFL heard your cry to protect our freedom and put a foot down - there will still be an English version on the air....

No one is trying to take away your non-hispanic heritage. Relax. Deep breath. Oh - and google before you get too upset about the next issue....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80282851&template=without-video&confirm=true

dragons5
09-25-2007, 12:18 AM
You have proven my point.

Think to yourself. What good does it do to play spanish commercials or translate team names into spanish on an english network.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PROGRAMMING IS AVAILABLE IN SPANISH ON A SPANISH NETWORK.

You assume that all hispanics speak spanish? How wrong you are. nearly half of all hispanics in the country know little to no spanish at all, and it's their Heritage. So what is the NFL really trying to say?

According their Communications Director they are doing this without care for the english audience. And it should also be noted that even though there are hundreds of different cultures represented in the NFL and in their Fan base that this is the only culture they support with a foreign language.

If we continue to allow this dissolution of our past time and our entertainment medium and it will soon become the norm and not the exception. Our fore fathers first fought with boycotts and petitions and I beg all of you for the future of football as we know it and for the future of entertainment media and my sanity to please call the NFL if you are unhappy about this.

rbedgood
09-25-2007, 01:27 AM
http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/fanart/les_phil/meditate.jpg

Ah yes...meditate before FIGHT...

Chiefster
09-25-2007, 01:31 AM
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2007/09/27.jpg

Ah yes...meditate before FIGHT...


Heh!!!:lol::lol:

Ya know this really seems more like a locker room thread to me.:11:

stlchief
09-25-2007, 01:53 AM
Who cares what other countries do? There are multiple reasons why this is wrong:

1. Foreign language tv and radio stations would never broadcast anything in English, yet we english speakers must be forced to learn a new language to accomodate one group of people?

2. The USA is a nation built by Chinese, Africans, Arabics, Indians (native and East), Japanese, French, German, Polish, Hispanic, Irish, Russian, Jewish etc..... And yet corporate America has sliced us into two groups. English speaking vs. Spanish.

3. Hispanic Heritage month celebrates leaders like those who fought at the Alamo and Cesar Chavez. They all fought to break away from Spain / Mexico and all spoke English. We do a dis service to their memories by forcing Spanish upon an English speaking nation.

4. There are millions of Hispanics who do not speak Spanish at all. I work closely with 8 hispanics and only one of them knows any spanish at all.

5. I see nothing wrong with people learning a new language, but being forced to learn that language so you can watch TV programming just so the NFL and GE/NBC can pander to "the fastest growing demographic" is a crock of crap and I will not stand for it.

6. NBC owns Telemundo, they could easily have simulcast on the two stations. Spanish on Telemundo and English on NBC. People watching NBC ALREADY KNOW ENGLISH. This is a clear cut racist act to build programming for only one race on a National network.




You have proven my point.

Think to yourself. What good does it do to play spanish commercials or translate team names into spanish on an english network.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PROGRAMMING IS AVAILABLE IN SPANISH ON A SPANISH NETWORK.

You assume that all hispanics speak spanish? How wrong you are. nearly half of all hispanics in the country know little to no spanish at all, and it's their Heritage. So what is the NFL really trying to say?

According their Communications Director they are doing this without care for the english audience. And it should also be noted that even though there are hundreds of different cultures represented in the NFL and in their Fan base that this is the only culture they support with a foreign language.

If we continue to allow this dissolution of our past time and our entertainment medium and it will soon become the norm and not the exception. Our fore fathers first fought with boycotts and petitions and I beg all of you for the future of football as we know it and for the future of entertainment media and my sanity to please call the NFL if you are unhappy about this.


What point? That the NFL is forcing us to learn a foreign language? Exaggeration to an extreme.

I assume all Hispanics speak Spanish? au contraire. I was having fun with the saying "I know 8 hispanics who don't speak spanish". This is too much of a generalization to be taken seriously.

But this is the US. Our forefathers did lay down their lives to be able to speak our minds. So I think it is good for you and the other people upset by this, this attack on our freedoem of (English) speech, this terrorist infiltration of the holiest of shabbot traditions (to remain at piece and watch football), this travesty against our civil liberties, should call the NFL.
:mob: :mob: :mob:

I don't really want to debate - this is a non-issue. I'm just trying to have fun. --> If you are really worried about taking up a cause our forefathers would support with their petitions, take a look at the Patriot Act and write your congressman. These are the things they took action against. If you want to get upset about a few billionaires trying to make a little more money on a market with lots of potential (and yes there are 100's of others, but look at NFL Europe, games in Japan, etc. --> the NFL is an equal opportunity marketer), you'll probably have a hard time getting names on the paper....

:D

hermhater
09-25-2007, 01:56 AM
You have proven my point.

Think to yourself. What good does it do to play spanish commercials or translate team names into spanish on an english network.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PROGRAMMING IS AVAILABLE IN SPANISH ON A SPANISH NETWORK.

You assume that all hispanics speak spanish? How wrong you are. nearly half of all hispanics in the country know little to no spanish at all, and it's their Heritage. So what is the NFL really trying to say?

According their Communications Director they are doing this without care for the english audience. And it should also be noted that even though there are hundreds of different cultures represented in the NFL and in their Fan base that this is the only culture they support with a foreign language.

If we continue to allow this dissolution of our past time and our entertainment medium and it will soon become the norm and not the exception. Our fore fathers first fought with boycotts and petitions and I beg all of you for the future of football as we know it and for the future of entertainment media and my sanity to please call the NFL if you are unhappy about this.


What point? That the NFL is forcing us to learn a foreign language? Exaggeration to an extreme.

I assume all Hispanics speak Spanish? au contraire. I was having fun with the saying "I know 8 hispanics who don't speak spanish". This is too much of a generalization to be taken seriously.

But this is the US. Our forefathers did lay down their lives to be able to speak our minds. So I think it is good for you and the other people upset by this, this attack on our freedoem of (English) speech, this terrorist infiltration of the holiest of shabbot traditions (to remain at piece and watch football), this travesty against our civil liberties, should call the NFL.
:mob: :mob: :mob:

I don't really want to debate - this is a non-issue. I'm just trying to have fun. --> If you are really worried about taking up a cause our forefathers would support with their petitions, take a look at the Patriot Act and write your congressman. These are the things they took action against. If you want to get upset about a few billionaires trying to make a little more money on a market with lots of potential (and yes there are 100's of others, but look at NFL Europe, games in Japan, etc. --> the NFL is an equal opportunity marketer), you'll probably have a hard time getting names on the paper....

:D

Let's keep this quote getting longer so people will stop reading it... Geezzzz

If Spanish bothers you then learn it and you won't have this problem.

If you can't learn spanish then ignore it and quit buying fruit and vegetables if you want the immigrants to go away.

Oh and start mowing your lawn and building your own houses and they will not have any jobs here to come and take away.

Seems pretty simple, eh?

Canada
09-25-2007, 01:58 AM
Who cares if it's in Spanish....drink enough beer and it all sounds the same

hermhater
09-25-2007, 01:59 AM
Who cares if it's in Spanish....drink enough beer and it all sounds the same

Yeah, if you have to rely on the commentators/potatoheads to tell you what is happening on the field you obviously don't know much about the game of football.

stlchief
09-25-2007, 02:00 AM
Who cares if it's in Spanish....drink enough beer and it all sounds the same


My friend to the North - already in mid-season form....

Canada
09-25-2007, 02:03 AM
My friend to the North - already in mid-season form....

Drinkin season NEVER ends!! :bananen_smilies046: :toast2::drunkhb:

rbedgood
09-25-2007, 02:25 AM
My friend to the North - already in mid-season form....


Drinkin season NEVER ends!! :bananen_smilies046: :toast2::drunkhb:

Mid-season would be the time from your 35th birthday to your 55th birthday...:D

Preseason is from 16-21
Late season 55th-70th
Playoffs---is anything that is bonus beyond that...(right Chiefster?!)

hermhater
09-25-2007, 02:27 AM
Mid-season would be the time from your 35th birthday to your 55th birthday...:D

Preseason is from 16-21
Late season 55th-70th
Playoffs---is anything that is bonus beyond that...(right Chiefster?!)


Chiefster is immortal.

hermhater
09-25-2007, 02:28 AM
Chiefster is immortal.


Chiefster is now even more immortalized.

That happened to be my 500th post.

You will life in infamy my friend, I'm glad that I could help!

dragons5
09-25-2007, 08:14 AM
Let's keep this quote getting longer so people will stop reading it... Geezzzz

If Spanish bothers you then learn it and you won't have this problem.

If you can't learn spanish then ignore it and quit buying fruit and vegetables if you want the immigrants to go away.

Oh and start mowing your lawn and building your own houses and they will not have any jobs here to come and take away.

Seems pretty simple, eh?.

Hmm this is very bigoted remark. Have I once asked people to stop coming here? Have I once complained that the NFL not broadcast in spanish? Nope. I have merely pointed out that they are attacking the English based networks here in the USA and forcing people to listen to spanish who otherwise would not. Also, I have pointed out that there can only be a racist cause behind this since dominantly only one race speaks spanish in this nation. In fact I think they should do an expansion team (one in Mexico and one in Canada) and I think they should sign a deal with one of the Spanish networks to carry a weekly game.

As far as the jobs that is more of a political discussion.

Demanding that I learn Spanish, a language that is not a national or an official language, is an outrage and a violation of my rights. It is sad to see my fellow fans say such things.

The good news is that I have found many others willing to step forward and complain to the NFL through private messages on here and other forums because they are afraid of what people might say about them in a public setting.

SPANISH HAS NO PLACE ON AMERICAN-ENGLISH BROADCASTING NETWORKS.... PERIOD!

Canada
09-25-2007, 08:20 AM
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Hmm this is very bigoted remark. Have I once asked people to stop coming here? Have I once complained that the NFL not broadcast in spanish? Nope. I have merely pointed out that they are attacking the English based networks here in the USA and forcing people to listen to spanish who otherwise would not. Also, I have pointed out that there can only be a racist cause behind this since dominantly only one race speaks spanish in this nation. In fact I think they should do an expansion team (one in Mexico and one in Canada) and I think they should sign a deal with one of the Spanish networks to carry a weekly game.


As far as the jobs that is more of a political discussion.

Demanding that I learn Spanish, a language that is not a national or an official language, is an outrage and a violation of my rights. It is sad to see my fellow fans say such things.

The good news is that I have found many others willing to step forward and complain to the NFL through private messages on here and other forums because they are afraid of what people might say about them in a public setting.

SPANISH HAS NO PLACE ON AMERICAN-ENGLISH BROADCASTING NETWORKS.... PERIOD!

If we got an expansion team in Canada you would have to broadcast games in Canadian eh!! :bananen_smilies046:

stlchief
09-25-2007, 08:30 AM
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Hmm this is very bigoted remark. Have I once asked people to stop coming here? Have I once complained that the NFL not broadcast in spanish? Nope. I have merely pointed out that they are attacking the English based networks here in the USA and forcing people to listen to spanish who otherwise would not. Also, I have pointed out that there can only be a racist cause behind this since dominantly only one race speaks spanish in this nation. In fact I think they should do an expansion team (one in Mexico and one in Canada) and I think they should sign a deal with one of the Spanish networks to carry a weekly game.

As far as the jobs that is more of a political discussion.

Demanding that I learn Spanish, a language that is not a national or an official language, is an outrage and a violation of my rights. It is sad to see my fellow fans say such things.

The good news is that I have found many others willing to step forward and complain to the NFL through private messages on here and other forums because they are afraid of what people might say about them in a public setting.

SPANISH HAS NO PLACE ON AMERICAN-ENGLISH BROADCASTING NETWORKS.... PERIOD!

I think we are all missing this part. Who said you will have to learn spanish? When this game if televised and Gloria Estefan sings the national anthem in English and the announcers talk in English, where is someone even asking you to learn Spanish to watch the game?

Can you show one thing, honestly, where you will need Spanish literacy to enjoy the game?

No one understands your frustration...

Chiefster
09-25-2007, 08:54 AM
I think we are all missing this part. Who said you will have to learn spanish? When this game if televised and Gloria Estefan sings the national anthem in English and the announcers talk in English, where is someone even asking you to learn Spanish to watch the game?

Can you show one thing, honestly, where you will need Spanish literacy to enjoy the game?

No one understands your frustration...


Heck I don't pay any attention to announcers speaking perfect English.

stlchief
09-25-2007, 09:07 AM
I do - but only on www.kcfx.com (http://www.kcfx.com). :)

Chiefster
09-25-2007, 09:09 AM
I do - but only on www.kcfx.com (http://www.kcfx.com). :)


Hey, thanks for the link.

dragons5
09-25-2007, 11:49 AM
2006 - NFL Starts celebrating hispanic heritage month with a PSA advertisement featuring Tony Gonzalez. The ad is broadcast in Spanish on English language networks, confusing and irritating fans. The ad was also shown on Spanish networks.

2007 - NFL's celebration of hispanic heritage month continues by referring to football as futbol americano, showing team names in spanish, wearing spanish patches, and broadcasting numerous ads in spanish for third parties (Ford and Microsoft). So far all companies that advertise in spanish during this time are also large supporters for NCLR (National Council of La Raza) a group whose goals include forcing all students to learn spanish and making spanish a national/official language.

2008 - ???? According to the company charged with the NFL's hispanic heritage campaign the NFL wants to slow ramp up their spanish language marketing on the major English networks. What could be next? An entire quarter in Spanish? Entire Half? Perhaps an entire game? The NFL's Communications Director declined to comment on this but said that the NFL will continue with spanish language broadcast on the major networks during this month and possibly soon as a staple of Football if fans accept it.

Again I'm all for having the game be brought to more audiences and broadcasting on Univision or Telemundo but not spanish on the english networks or french or german for that matter.

Canada
09-25-2007, 04:10 PM
2006 - NFL Starts celebrating hispanic heritage month with a PSA advertisement featuring Tony Gonzalez. The ad is broadcast in Spanish on English language networks, confusing and irritating fans. The ad was also shown on Spanish networks.

2007 - NFL's celebration of hispanic heritage month continues by referring to football as futbol americano, showing team names in spanish, wearing spanish patches, and broadcasting numerous ads in spanish for third parties (Ford and Microsoft). So far all companies that advertise in spanish during this time are also large supporters for NCLR (National Council of La Raza) a group whose goals include forcing all students to learn spanish and making spanish a national/official language.

2008 - ???? According to the company charged with the NFL's hispanic heritage campaign the NFL wants to slow ramp up their spanish language marketing on the major English networks. What could be next? An entire quarter in Spanish? Entire Half? Perhaps an entire game? The NFL's Communications Director declined to comment on this but said that the NFL will continue with spanish language broadcast on the major networks during this month and possibly soon as a staple of Football if fans accept it.

Again I'm all for having the game be brought to more audiences and broadcasting on Univision or Telemundo but not spanish on the english networks or french or german for that matter.

Dude get over yourself. I know that you are under the impression that English speaking Americans are the most imprtant, but there are a lot of other people in the world. You have a pretty narrow minded view of te real minority in the world.

Chiefster
09-25-2007, 04:41 PM
Dude get over yourself. I know that you are under the impression that English speaking Americans are the most important, but there are a lot of other people in the world. You have a pretty narrow minded view of te real minority in the world.


There are 6 billion+ of the earths human inhabitants, I think learning one another's language might well be a good thing, but don't necessarily believe that being forced to do so is altogether right. However, if we are going to continue to be this "melting pot" that we boast of then we are going to have to be tolerant of those who speak another language. Do I think the illegal immigration should be cracked down on? Yes. Do I think that those who come here legally should know a certain amount of English when they arrive? ...Absolutely. I, also, think it behooves us to remember that many of our descendants came from non-English speaking immigrants and to bare that in mind when formulating our views and opinions of those coming here in order to make a better live for themselves and their family. JMHO








That is all.

hermhater
09-25-2007, 04:54 PM
There are 6 billion+ of the earths human inhabitants, I think learning one another's language might well be a good thing, but don't necessarily believe that being forced to do so is altogether right. However, if we are going to continue to be this "melting pot" that we boast of then we are going to have to be tolerant of those who speak another language. Do I think the illegal immigration should be cracked down on? Yes. Do I think that those who come here legally should know a certain amount of English when they arrive? ...Absolutely. I, also, think it behooves us to remember that many of our descendants came from non-English speaking immigrants and to bare that in mind when formulating our views and opinions of those coming here in order to make a better live for themselves and their family. JMHO








That is all.


Very well stated my friend!

New ambassador to the world then?

Chiefster
09-25-2007, 04:59 PM
Very well stated my friend!

New ambassador to the world then?

Thank you, and no I won't be accepting that position anytime soon; the US and world currencies simply do not have enough Arrowcash to meet my salary demands. :D

dragons5
09-25-2007, 11:00 PM
the illegal immigration and English topics are totally different. Please stop blending them..

I am tolerant of other languages and do not believe that 'English speakers' are the most important. Ney, I believe that since.. gee gosh our constitution and every other important documents was written in English and that since immigrants cross the world learn the language to emigrate here that we should all speak the same language.

I could care less about what other languages one speaks. I took French and Japanese in High School and am extremely tolerant of other tongues.

But let's not forget that NBC, ABC, CBS and ESPN are by virtue of their nature ENGLISH BROADCASTING NETWORKS just like Univision is a SPANISH BROADCASTING NETWORK.

Why should the spanish speakers get special attention over the other say 250,000,000 people in the country? Seems a bit stupid and racist to me.... no matter how you try to pass it off as 'diversity' or 'tolerance' it is in fact INTOLERANCE of all of the hundreds of other cultures that call this great nation home.

stlchief
09-25-2007, 11:29 PM
Dude - businesses cater to people with $. Are you going to write a letter to Coke next time there is a Coke add with some Spanish music? How about McDonalds? These are companies trying to make money. Not your government telling you how to live your life.

You know how you speak to them? Not with letters & petitions. You send the letters & stop buying the product.

Are you going to stop watching the NFL / buying shirts / going to games? Gonna organize a group to protest at a stadium and convince people to go home instead of going in? Gonna write a letter to NBC and express your frustration and then actually stop watching NBC? The answer to all of the above: NO. So it doesn't really bother you enough to really do something about it.

Let it go. It's just like the people who complain about how much athletes make, but still spend money following the sport. It makes no sense....

hermhater
09-25-2007, 11:33 PM
I wish this thread would go away.

But I guess it does vaguely have something to do with the Chiefs, since they show commercials during the game????

Chiefster
09-25-2007, 11:37 PM
Dude - businesses cater to people with $. Are you going to write a letter to Coke next time there is a Coke add with some Spanish music? How about McDonalds? These are companies trying to make money. Not your government telling you how to live your life.

You know how you speak to them? Not with letters & petitions. You send the letters & stop buying the product.

Are you going to stop watching the NFL / buying shirts / going to games? Gonna organize a group to protest at a stadium and convince people to go home instead of going in? Gonna write a letter to NBC and express your frustration and then actually stop watching NBC? The answer to all of the above: NO. So it doesn't really bother you enough to really do something about it.

Let it go. It's just like the people who complain about how much athletes make, but still spend money following the sport. It makes no sense....

Yup, like wiping before ya poop.:D

dragons5
09-26-2007, 12:31 AM
Dude - businesses cater to people with $. Are you going to write a letter to Coke next time there is a Coke add with some Spanish music? How about McDonalds? These are companies trying to make money. Not your government telling you how to live your life.

You know how you speak to them? Not with letters & petitions. You send the letters & stop buying the product.

Are you going to stop watching the NFL / buying shirts / going to games? Gonna organize a group to protest at a stadium and convince people to go home instead of going in? Gonna write a letter to NBC and express your frustration and then actually stop watching NBC? The answer to all of the above: NO. So it doesn't really bother you enough to really do something about it.

Let it go. It's just like the people who complain about how much athletes make, but still spend money following the sport. It makes no sense....

all of the above is done. I am no longer watching CBS, NBC, FOX or ESPN

all stations I watched religiously. I have also quit playing my fantasy football and request a refund for the league I had with the NFL.

Again you seem to be missing my point completely. And that's fine. If you want your future to be filled with spanish and your kids and grand kids being forced to learn it then you sit idly by and watch as the nation you love crumbles, however, I am a patriot and I will fight for what I believe is right.

Chiefster
09-26-2007, 12:49 AM
all of the above is done. I am no longer watching CBS, NBC, FOX or ESPN

all stations I watched religiously. I have also quit playing my fantasy football and request a refund for the league I had with the NFL.

Again you seem to be missing my point completely. And that's fine. If you want your future to be filled with spanish and your kids and grand kids being forced to learn it then you sit idly by and watch as the nation you love crumbles, however, I am a patriot and I will fight for what I believe is right.

...Can't afford cable huh? :D
j/k

I see your point; just don't think it's quite as drastic as you're portraying it is all.

hermhater
09-26-2007, 01:01 AM
...Can't afford cable huh? :D
j/k

I see your point; just don't think it's quite as drastic as you're portraying it is all.


all of the above is done. I am no longer watching CBS, NBC, FOX or ESPN

all stations I watched religiously. I have also quit playing my fantasy football and request a refund for the league I had with the NFL.

Again you seem to be missing my point completely. And that's fine. If you want your future to be filled with spanish and your kids and grand kids being forced to learn it then you sit idly by and watch as the nation you love crumbles, however, I am a patriot and I will fight for what I believe is right.


I have already made sure my son is enrolled in Spanish. So I guess I am forcing him to learn it, but he was already wanting to do it anyway.

How can you think that learning new things is bad?

I just don't get you dude, and your politics are all screwed up.

Quit already please.

rbedgood
09-26-2007, 01:03 AM
I wish this thread would go away.

But I guess it does vaguely have something to do with the Chiefs, since they show commercials during the game????

On this we agree completely...personally I think it has run its course, the arguments are becoming circular in nature and everyone has had their proper opportunity to vent their frustration/opinion. Let's let it ride off into the sunset.

Chiefster
09-26-2007, 01:10 AM
On this we agree completely...personally I think it has run its course, the arguments are becoming circular in nature and everyone has had their proper opportunity to vent their frustration/opinion. Let's let it ride off into the sunset.

Done!:D