Kansas City Chiefs @ Seattle Seahawks Discussion thread

[ctchiefsfan]

We NEED this 7

[iratefan]

jones, dives for another disappointing 2 >:/

[ctchiefsfan]

If we don't get the 1st here, I cope Haley will take the 3

[stricken721]

Great job Jamaal!!! TOUCHDOWN!!

[matthewschiefs]

Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brdempsey69]

Yeah Baby, Charles Took It In !!

[ctchiefsfan]

TD!!!!!!!

[iratefan]

did - you - see- that - stiffarm!!! :O

[brdempsey69]

Nice drive Offense, when it was needed most.

[ctchiefsfan]

Hope the D stuffs 'em here for a quick 3 and out!

[OMGLadyGaga]

I understand the whole dual threat in the backfield, but when one guy clearly outperforms the other WITH THE SAME LINE/PLAYS then its becoming less of a dual threat at runningback and honestly Jones is a break for the other team and a gauranteed 3 yards. I dont like it...Charles can break a long TD at any point. Feed him the ball more!!

[KristofLaw]

Ball is lose... Chiefs ball?!?

[brdempsey69]

Be nice to see a pick by Berry ( or any Chiefs defender ) here.

[matthewschiefs]

Darn that would have been huge if we could have come up with that football.

[ctchiefsfan]

Fumble!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

Damn!

[iratefan]

I understand the whole dual threat in the backfield, but when one guy clearly outperforms the other WITH THE SAME LINE/PLAYS then its becoming less of a dual threat at runningback and honestly Jones is a break for the other team and a gauranteed 3 yards. I dont like it...Charles can break a long TD at any point. Feed him the ball more!!


Agreed! if god forbid Charles got hurt for a long period of time and all we had was Jones (assume no DMC) - our running game becomes NON-EXISTENT. Charles just makes Jones look tired and slow.

[matthewschiefs]

YES

GREAT job DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stricken721]

WOOOO!!! Go Tamba!

[brantcanchiefsfan]

Fumble.........chiefs Ballllll!!!!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

Dodged another bullet

[ctchiefsfan]

Yeah!!!!!

[iratefan]

HALIIIIIII hell yes awesome recover, DJ awesome strip! finally some pressure in there!

[brdempsey69]

Be nice to see a pick by Berry ( or any Chiefs defender ) here.

BUT, a fumble recovery is just as good.

[ctchiefsfan]

Stuff it down their throats now!

[matthewschiefs]

Bowe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KristofLaw]

Whoa!! Three touchdowns for D. Bowe!!!!!

[stricken721]

Dwayne Bowe with his THIRD touchdown f the game!! GO BOWE!!! :chiefs: :chiefs:

[brantcanchiefsfan]

the donkeys and faiders are losin

[ctchiefsfan]

TD!!!!!!!

[brdempsey69]

Td Number 14 For Bowe. Way To Go !!

[iratefan]

Boew TD- look at these SLANT ROUTES LATELY! (another thing weve all been crying for!)

[ctchiefsfan]

35-17. I'm starting to feel better. Faders and Dolts losing.

[ctchiefsfan]

We need another TD to put this thing away

[Boxermm187]

WOW GOTTA LOVE THE WAY THE TURN THING AROUND!!!!! 7-4 baby. love to see all the chief fans on the stands!!!!
GO CHIEFS!!!!!

[stricken721]

Way to go Travis Daniels!

[brdempsey69]

C'mon Defense. Stop them now.

[matthewschiefs]

Pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KristofLaw]

Travis Daniels with his second pick! Today's been great! :D :D

[iratefan]

Finally some ****ing blitz - too bad the discipline was not there. Kindof a sissy call but they still called it so we get punished.

[McLovin]

Ok I have been very quietly watching and analyzing the game today.
After last week I really wanted to watch Matt Cassel and see if I was being overly harsh with my criticisms.
I listen to NFL on Sirius during the week and now have NFL Sunday ticket(This year).

Time for a bit of Crow from me. Matt Cassel is playing with passion.

I have really watched today and have watched him scramble, watched him look around at multiple receivers, and watched loving how he outran Charles so he could block for him on a play.

I have to say after looking at the stats he is not throwing int's he seems to finally have chemistry with Bowe and he is not holding the ball like he was before.

A wise Chief31 told me last week that maybe I was still hanging onto and judging the Cassel of last year.
From the looks of the game today and analysis from the people getting paid to analyse I feel that very well could have been true.

From the looks of the game today I can also see that this year the Chiefs could very well be a playoff team, and from the way we played Indy and Houston (even though both were losses) I feel that this team by the time the playoffs get here could win a game or two and could even surprise the NFL world and make it to the Super Bowl.

Slam me all you want for my analysis from before but I am admitting that I was wrong Cassel has more potential then I had thought and could very well eventually be an Elite QB in this league. And it might not be far off.

[brdempsey69]

Ha, ha !! A pick by Daniels -- sweet redemption !!

[iratefan]

wow again im behind - goes from a personal foul to an INT! ill take it :D

[ctchiefsfan]

Death To Seahawks!

[iratefan]

lmao im starting to think Jones is TRYING to get as few yards as possible on his YPC. i wonder if he has Charles on his Fantasy team.

[chief31]

So you jump on cassel for a slight overthrow but a fumble and a droped pass is not hurting the team?

I never said he was a detremit to the team but he is not perfect. he to makes mistakes thats why he does not get every carry. You can't ignore his mistakes.

No one is ignoring mistakes.

But to suggest that he gets the ball less than he could because he makes mistakes is flat-out wrong.

He splits carries so that he stays healthy and doesn't wear down.


Umm - i can ignore them a hell of a lot more than dangerous over throws down the middle of the field which often result in INTs.

I feel a lot more confident with the ball in Charles' hands than Cassel's despite his rather saintly performance the first half.

Even higher up on my ****-list is JONES who hasnt run more than 3 yards in i dont know how many games now. hes irritating to watch and IMO is becoming a dangerous waste of downs here int he second half.

- having said that - i always would like to give credit where its due, and Cassel just had an AWESOME scramble and completion to Bowe :)

How often? The man has 21 TDs and 4 (yes, that's 4, spelled f*o*u*r) INTs on the season.


Agreed! if god forbid Charles got hurt for a long period of time and all we had was Jones (assume no DMC) - our running game becomes NON-EXISTENT. Charles just makes Jones look tired and slow.

And Jones makes Charles healthy and fresh.

I love Thomas Jones. I'd rather see more of Charles, but I know why I see so much of Jones. And I like it. (For the most part.)

[Boxermm187]

awww chucks, a drop ball from Bowe lol

[ctchiefsfan]

From the looks of the game today I can also see that this year the Chiefs could very well be a playoff team, and from the way we played Indy and Houston (even though both were losses) I feel that this team by the time the playoffs get here could win a game or two and could even surprise the NFL world and make it to the Super Bowl.



Once we are in the playoffs, anything can happen especially if the secondary gets healthy

[matthewschiefs]

Ok I have been very quietly watching and analyzing the game today.
After last week I really wanted to watch Matt Cassel and see if I was being overly harsh with my criticisms.
I listen to NFL on Sirius during the week and now have NFL Sunday ticket(This year).

Time for a bit of Crow from me. Matt Cassel is playing with passion.

I have really watched today and have watched him scramble, watched him look around at multiple receivers, and watched loving how he outran Charles so he could block for him on a play.

I have to say after looking at the stats he is not throwing int's he seems to finally have chemistry with Bowe and he is not holding the ball like he was before.

A wise Chief31 told me last week that maybe I was still hanging onto and judging the Cassel of last year.
From the looks of the game today and analysis from the people getting paid to analyse I feel that very well could have been true.

From the looks of the game today I can also see that this year the Chiefs could very well be a playoff team, and from the way we played Indy and Houston (even though both were losses) I feel that this team by the time the playoffs get here could win a game or two and could even surprise the NFL world and make it to the Super Bowl.

Slam me all you want for my analysis from before but I am admitting that I was wrong Cassel has more potential then I had thought and could very well eventually be an Elite QB in this league. And it might not be far off.

Glad to see your comeing around. Cassel has taken far to much blame this year.

[ctchiefsfan]

Damn!

[Boxermm187]

feels good to be on TOP!!!! cheers to all the fans here on this board!

[brdempsey69]

WHAT THE HELL !! Give up an 87-yard TD?

[figcrostic]

Carr got beat like a toilet seat

[Boxermm187]

DAMN!!! still a lot of time!!!

[McLovin]

That was ugly.

[iratefan]

ummm.... yeah games NOT OVER YET! quit analyzing. we still have a lot of work to do against this Seattle Deep pass.

[KristofLaw]

Well Obamanu is having a half... blown coverage on both Lewis and Carr on that one.

[brdempsey69]

Chiefs need to score again.

[ctchiefsfan]

Too much time to get conservative on O

[Boxermm187]

I'll wait for the end of the game for the cheers

[KristofLaw]

Charles another broken tackle.... first down!

[ctchiefsfan]

Still need another TD. Got to get that one back!

[iratefan]

good run both by jones and charles - that was important not to go 3 and out if nothing else. lets keep the drive going.

[KristofLaw]

Right on Charles... another first down. --->

[chief31]

maybe I was still hanging onto and judging the Cassel of last year.



Happens to the best of us.

:D

Nothing wrong with catching it, and rooting for a guy you used to dislike.

[ctchiefsfan]

Hold that football tight and we should be able to run pretty good. Seattle will be trying to strip.

[iratefan]

PAP time?

[Connie Jo]

I'll wait for the end of the game for the cheers

I'm with you...

[iratefan]

a slant play works just as well IMO - a good easy 7 on 1st down. will take that all day long.

[matthewschiefs]

No one is ignoring mistakes.

But to suggest that he gets the ball less than he could because he makes mistakes is flat-out wrong.

He splits carries so that he stays healthy and doesn't wear down.



How often? The man has 21 TDs and 4 (yes, that's 4, spelled f*o*u*r) INTs on the season.



And Jones makes Charles healthy and fresh.

I love Thomas Jones. I'd rather see more of Charles, but I know why I see so much of Jones. And I like it. (For the most part.)

I don't think you can deney that people have been far harder on Cassel for mistakes that didn't end up in being a turnover then they have on Charles on plays that have. I just think people are being unfair to Cassel. When Cassel makes a overthrow there are some on here that act like he did just throw a pick 6 when Charles fumbles they are silent. If we are going to call out every mistake I think we have to do it all around.

I do however think that Charles mistakes are part of the reason he does not see the ball more. I don't think it's a major thing but late in a few games we have seen jones get the carries late. Maybe because that's why. I am not on the Chiefs coaching staff so I don't no. But It's just my thought.

I do agree and I do like Jones as well. My thing is I don't like how we are useing Jones. More of his carries are up the middle where we for the most part have a hard time running the ball. I think that is a factor. But if we didn't have Jones I don't think we would have as many wins. He is helping this team. He is helping to make Charles better.

[brantcanchiefsfan]

Alright.....time to put this one away!!!

[KristofLaw]

First down... D. Bowe! ----> Followed by Thomas Jones... --->

[Connie Jo]

I just got home, no radio now. What's the score, how much time left? I can't stream!!!!!

[iratefan]

whats up with all the offensive confusion? burning too many timeouts to avoid delay of game call. i think thats the fourth this game so far.

[KristofLaw]

35 - 24 Chiefs with just over 4 minutes to go.... make that 42 - 24!!! TD Moeaki!! :D :D

[brantcanchiefsfan]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo

[iratefan]

this turned out to be a GOOD DRIVE. lots of time off the clock and we're knocking for a score. lets keep it up!

[ctchiefsfan]

Just need one more TD!!!

[stricken721]

Touchdown Kan-sas City!!!

[matthewschiefs]

Tony M!!!!!!!!!!!!

[iratefan]

PS - anyone notice seattle D-line breaking down this drive? Jones has huge holes to break away with some bigger runs rather than the usual 2 and dive.

[brdempsey69]

Cassell With 4 Td Passes -- How Do You Like That Folks !!

[ctchiefsfan]

Td!!! Td!!!! Td!!!!

[iratefan]

Cassell With 4 Td Passes -- How Do You Like That Folks !!


I like it a LOT!!! hes doing so much better these past two games.

[Pro_Angler]

Wow great game...nail in coffin..donks and faidr4s lost..wahoooooo. come on chargers lose

[ctchiefsfan]

Sure hope the same Cassell and Bowe show up next week

[ctchiefsfan]

Hey Angler. Where you been?

[iratefan]

I get the concept behind the short kicks -but the effectiveness seems about as effective as onsides kicks or less. The tradeoff? really good field position for the OPP team.

[matthewschiefs]

Sure hope the same Cassell and Bowe show up next week

I hope they show up the rest of the year and the playoffs.

[iratefan]

Ok this is a Seahawks collapse now. Great stop on downs D

[brdempsey69]

Yes, the Defense stopped them. Run the clock out Offense.

[chief31]

I don't think you can deney that people have been far harder on Cassel for mistakes that didn't end up in being a turnover then they have on Charles on plays that have. I just think people are being unfair to Cassel. When Cassel makes a overthrow there are some on here that act like he did just throw a pick 6 when Charles fumbles they are silent. If we are going to call out every mistake I think we have to do it all around.

I do however think that Charles mistakes are part of the reason he does not see the ball more. I don't think it's a major thing but late in a few games we have seen jones get the carries late. Maybe because that's why. I am not on the Chiefs coaching staff so I don't no. But It's just my thought.

I do agree and I do like Jones as well. My thing is I don't like how we are useing Jones. More of his carries are up the middle where we for the most part have a hard time running the ball. I think that is a factor. But if we didn't have Jones I don't think we would have as many wins. He is helping this team. He is helping to make Charles better.

I agree with every word.

Most here know how I feel about Cassel's play this season. And this game is just one more where his doubters will have to reexamine their opinion of him.

I think that Charles has been slightly underused. But I still like having Jones there to lighten the load for him.

[brantcanchiefsfan]

That oughta do it....great game chiefs

[iratefan]

500+ yards on offense wow.

[ctchiefsfan]

7-4 with nobody closer then 2 games behind

[brdempsey69]

Great job by the Offense today. They needed to carry the day today and they did.

[matthewschiefs]

I don't want one negtive Cassel thread this week he got the job done today.

[ctchiefsfan]

I don't want one negtive Cassel thread this week he got the job done today.

Yes he did. He was HOT today. Looking sharp.

[ctchiefsfan]

Great game today, especially considering the injuries to the secondary.

[KristofLaw]

And Chris Spencer limps off the field so Hasselbach takes a knee. We are 7-4 on the year... great game by our boys!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

Been a while since it's been this much fun to be a Chiefs fan!

[SIC J]

I don't want one negtive Cassel thread this week he got the job done today.

He didn't throw 8 TDs. We almost lost cuz of him. LOL

[OMGLadyGaga]

Wow that was so much fun!!! Go Chiefs!! Now gonna watch the sunday night game with great interest and really really really root for the colts!

[matthewschiefs]

He didn't throw 8 TDs. We almost lost cuz of him. LOL


GET HIM!!!!!!!!!!!:mob:


:lol: :yahoo: :bananen_smilies046:

[loyalchief91]

Great win on the road Chiefs. Good job!

[Boxermm187]

Wow that was so much fun!!! Go Chiefs!! Now gonna watch the sunday night game with great interest and really really really root for the colts!
I feel you! Cheers to all my board friendsfor a good finish to this season:bananen_smilies046:

[brdempsey69]

Denver -- you're next & this time it's at Arrowhead. Payback time !!

[KristofLaw]

Matt Cassel - 22 of 32 for 233 yards and 4 TDs - 0 Int.

Jamaal Charles - 22 for 173 yards (1 TD, 1 fumble)

Thomas Jones - 20 for 68 yards

Dwayne Bowe - 13 rec. for 170 yards and 3 TDs


... here's Yahoo Sports final box score stats:

Kansas City at Seattle | Sunday November 28, 2010 | NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20101128026)

[matthewschiefs]

Denver -- you're next & this time it's at Arrowhead. Payback time !!


YES IT IS

I don't think we take a knee like we did today against them.

[Boxermm187]

close game DEV and STL

[ctchiefsfan]

Time to put a SERIOUS HURT on Donks next week!

[Boxermm187]

DENVER LOST!! that is it for their season!!

[Boxermm187]

Defend the pass, pass rush and we have a great game

[ctchiefsfan]

Donks are done and we are in the drivers seat!

[iratefan]

My reflection on this game.

Cassel did GREAT today. He was accurate, he was decisive. He still has his targets picked at times perhaps a bit prematurely, but thats not a bad thing when youre throwing at quick slant routes (vs doing this deep with good coverage). And man he had some good scrambles today! he didnt panic and made a handful of big plays by staying limber and knowing when to abandon the pass for decent scramble yardage.

Bowe- Hes been really working hard lately in practice and it shows! his hands are steady and confident, and IMO he looks like a different receiver than we saw the first few games after the bye week. Not only that but Weis has him running quicker routes and the Bowe/Cassel timing has been very successful lately. No more clutch play drops and to the contrary, is making hard catches look easy.

Running game - well what to say.. Charles shows hes not just a speed demon but can throw off tackles week after week. People got on my case this thread to say that a fumble and a dropped pass was worth more caution than some dangerous throws over the middle, but i say that his performance and numbers this game and week after week speak for themselves. Obviously hes not going to make EVERY play but he makes so many great/big plays, particularly when they are needed, that its hard to say that there are more confident places to put the football. Hes stepped up big in DMC's absence and is really impressing people. A lot of the Bowe TD catches are set up largely from solid running by charles up the field the prior 8 plays of the drive.

Jones - well, I still feel like his performance is lackluster. I like that Charles is being mixed up with SOMEONE, but Jones just doesnt seem to be able to do much without a huge hole. He had some good runs in the last drive and i think that can be largely attributed to a very tired SEA D-line. I am very anxious to get DMC back into that mixup as well.

Special Teams was a bit disasterous first half. We completely dominated in yardage, time of possession, etc in first half and because of ST blunders the halftime score was 7-7. We still seem to have a really hard time giving Arenas some breathing room to make a catch let alone a return.

Secondary - Hey theyre young and ****ed up on several occasions today, but there were a lot of big plays today as well. Hasselback is no slouch and there were a few close calls, but none that id attribute in particular to being 'lucky', there was definitely a decent effort here, but still has a lot of room for improvement.

I had a blast watching, and admittedly i had a bit of a nervous sweat in the beginning of the second half, but i did not feel the same doom and gloom that i felt in previous games. They were playing too well to go all emo and start cutting myself and stuff.

[ctchiefsfan]

We're improving almost every week. Keep this up, get the secondary healthy and we could make a serious run in the playoffs.

[Boxermm187]

Rushing game and a passing game. what else can you ask for! defense showed up today, they need to show up every game. next stop.... Arrowhead vs Denver. they have nothing to lose so it will be dangerous

[AkChief49]

Time to put a SERIOUS HURT on Donks next week!


Donks are done and we are in the drivers seat!

As well as the Faders! It will leave a bad taste in my mouth, but tonight I'm pulling for the Colts!! How sweet it would be.

[CHIEFS_FN_ROCK]

MAN I HATE THE COLTS BUT TONITE GO COLTS!!! BEAT THE DOLTS!!:mooning:

[CHIEFS_FN_ROCK]

MAN IT'S GREAT BEING A CHIEFS FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[matthewschiefs]

MAN IT'S GREAT BEING A CHIEFS FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YES IT IS:bananen_smilies046:

[Chiefster]

I'm loving it right now for sure!

[Sn@keIze]

I cant believe how awesome of games Bowe (and Cassel) are having considering we don't really have another significant WR threat.

Big Nasty Shaun Smith had a good day too.

I still would like to see Charles get a little more early carries tho. Im mean my god his yards/carry are freakish.

2ndary did good without flowers. with the exception of that bomb seek****s got away with.