Is there any possible way..........

[DrunkHillbilly]

Is there any possible way that Marty would ever come back to the Chiefs? Do you think he has bad feelings toward Peterson and do you think Peterson would have the balls to eat crow and hire him back?

[m0ef0e]

Well, we did bring Gun back after a pretty messy ordeal when he was the head coach.

[hermhater]

Marty can't win a playoff game to save hs life.

[DrunkHillbilly]

Marty can't win a playoff game to save hs life.

I would take him back in a heart beat!!!

If you do a little research, I bet the avg. record for coaches is right around 50%. I know Marty is about 5 and 12 or so but something to be considered is that he has been losing to guys like Montana, Brady ect. Superstar QB's. Marty has NEVER had a primetime QB in his prime. He has been one of the best coaches in the league's history. Especially with nobody of any stature to QB his squad. Like I said, I would take him back in a second. Remember last year? 14-2 aint too shabby!!!!!

[m0ef0e]

There are a few good coaches in the unemployment line this year. I like Marty but it would be sweet to get Cowher or Parcells, also.

[DrunkHillbilly]

There are a few good coaches in the unemployment line this year. I like Marty but it would be sweet to get Cowher or Parcells, also.

I'm good with Cower but you can keep Parcells IMO.

[wolfpack]

why and the he$$ would anyone want marty back. martyball=hermmieball. no thanks.

[m0ef0e]

I think Marty kind of redefined himself in Sandy Eggo.

[hermhater]

I think Marty kind of redefined himself in Sandy Eggo.

They are talking about Marty right now on ATH.

Saying he looks like a hall of fame coach.

How about having HERM be defensive head coach, and Marty running the team until the playoffs.

Then I come in to coach!

heheheheh

[hermhater]

They called LJ a waste of a first round fantasy pick.

Can't argue with them there, but it's not like it's his fault.

[DrunkHillbilly]

why and the he$$ would anyone want marty back. martyball=hermmieball. no thanks.

Just a question. Marty or Herm? They are definetly not the same!!!!! Can't believe anyone would actually say that but.......

Let's see hmmm.....10, 12 wins a season and playoffs virtually every year without question or........HERM??? You make the call!

[DrunkHillbilly]

They called LJ a waste of a first round fantasy pick.

Can't argue with them there, but it's not like it's his fault.

Said the same thing about LT and Jackson too!

[GoDJGoDJ]

I wouldn't want Marty back, although he is great in the regular season. He seems to play not to lose in those playoff games. Parcells is a definite "no" as far as I'm concerned. I don't think players really like playing for him. I'd take Cowher in a second though.

[DrunkHillbilly]

I wouldn't want Marty back, although he is great in the regular season. He seems to play not to lose in those playoff games. Parcells is a definite "no" as far as I'm concerned. I don't think players really like playing for him. I'd take Cowher in a second though.

You have to actually make it to the playoffs before you can play not to lose!!!!

[GoDJGoDJ]

True - but I found the Marty playoff collapses to be frustrating. I'm not saying Herm's the man. But I don't want Marty either.

[hermhater]

No Herm, No Marty!

Get Cowher!

[m0ef0e]

Just a question. Marty or Herm? They are definetly not the same!!!!! Can't believe anyone would actually say that but.......

Let's see hmmm.....10, 12 wins a season and playoffs virtually every year without question or........HERM??? You make the call!


Herm and Marty both have an excellent track record of making the playoffs. Unfortunately, both guys have a horrible playoff record as well.

[timsatt1]

i would take marty cowler or parcells in a heartbeat.

parcells would be good for a young team. he teaches discipline. and at this point, where the chiefs are now with their coaching situation, i think even the veterans would play behind parcells.

[GoDJGoDJ]

i would take marty cowler or parcells in a heartbeat.

parcells would be good for a young team. he teaches discipline. and at this point, where the chiefs are now with their coaching situation, i think even the veterans would play behind parcells.

I respectfully disagree. He didn't exactly do wonders in Dallas - although he drafted well, I'll give him that. Also players these days don't respond well to the guys who coach with an iron fist IMO. Just ask the Giants.

[rbedgood]

I hate to say it, cuz I want to keep him for the 49ers, but if I'm the Chiefs I go after Mike Singletary as head coach. He's brilliant, would keep the momentum for your defensive improvement, but bring a smashmouth attitude to the team as a whole. The quote I saw from Waters after the game is very disconcerting. An O-lineman saying we need to pass to open up the run is way too wrong. Of course this may be the truth, but it displays an attitude issue...a good O-line has the attitude of "let us punch them in the mouth...run, run, RUN..."

[DrunkHillbilly]

I hate to say it, cuz I want to keep him for the 49ers, but if I'm the Chiefs I go after Mike Singletary as head coach. He's brilliant, would keep the momentum for your defensive improvement, but bring a smashmouth attitude to the team as a whole. The quote I saw from Waters after the game is very disconcerting. An O-lineman saying we need to pass to open up the run is way too wrong. Of course this may be the truth, but it displays an attitude issue...a good O-line has the attitude of "let us punch them in the mouth...run, run, RUN..."

I think he said it because of 2 reasons.

1. He is sick of getting his *** handed to him along with the rest of the line.
2. He believes this is the only way to win because he and his fellow line mates can't get the job done.

Very disheartening to say the least! If that's the way he feels, have a seat on the bench and let a back up that is dying to get in the game and can probably not make any holes and get the QB killed as well as you can get in the game and give it a shot!!!!

[Sick Dog]

Get used to it guys Herm is going no where the Hunt family loves him and so does Peterson as long as he is their and with that being said I think the only way Peterson is gone is if he retires!:11:

[Coach]

Get used to it guys Herm is going no where the Hunt family loves him and so does Peterson as long as he is their and with that being said I think the only way Peterson is gone is if he retires!:11:

I agree that Peterson is not going anywhere unless he wants to. Hermie on the other hand is not protected and could find himself on the hotseat if the Chiefs struggle this year and the playcallng continues to suck.

[rbedgood]

Get used to it guys Herm is going no where the Hunt family loves him and so does Peterson as long as he is their and with that being said I think the only way Peterson is gone is if he retires!:11:

To which form of retirement does thou refer...?

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[hermhater]

To which form of retirement does thou refer...?

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Good one dude! I would go for option 2!

[timsatt1]

To which form of retirement does thou refer...?

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i chose door number 2 :mob:

[luv]

Wow. We're to the point that we're wanting Mary back?

[DrunkHillbilly]

Wow. We're to the point that we're wanting Mary back?

Yea your right....lets keep Herm!!! Hip hip hooray!!!

[royalswin100games]

Yea your right....lets keep Herm!!! Hip hip hooray!!!

While we're at it, lets keep Carl!!! Beers all around! But seriously, no one likes my Norm Chow idea?

:bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

Yea your right....lets keep Herm!!! Hip hip hooray!!!

I don't want Marty back, but if it is the only way to get rid of HERM then YES I would take him!

[luv]

Yea your right....lets keep Herm!!! Hip hip hooray!!!
That's not what I meant. I meant that for us to want Marty back, that must mean Herm is THAT bad.

[hermhater]

That's not what I meant. I meant that for us to want Marty back, that must mean Herm is THAT bad.


I agree!

[Chiefster]

Is there any possible way that Marty would ever come back to the Chiefs? Do you think he has bad feelings toward Peterson and do you think Peterson would have the balls to eat crow and hire him back?

I never thought I would see another NFL Head Coach that was more ultra-conservative then Marty; alas, Herm has proven me wrong.

[timsatt1]

I agree!

i was a young gun at the time of marty ball, so i really have no idea what he was like back then. wish i did. all i know is i loved the chiefs and anything about them back then....so i just figured marty was the greatest thing ever since he was the coach of my team. :drunkhb:

[royalswin100games]

i was a young gun at the time of marty ball, so i really have no idea what he was like back then. wish i did. all i know is i loved the chiefs and anything about them back then....so i just figured marty was the greatest thing ever since he was the coach of my team. :drunkhb:

Talk about someone that would run the ball up the gut on 3rd and 15... That's Marty back in the day.

[hermhater]

I never thought I would see another NFL Head Coach that was more ultra-conservative then Marty; alas, Herm has proven me wrong.


I was all for the guy last year hoping he could even BUILD on the monster that Dick left us.

I know he got screwed the first week by Trent getting concussed, but it is because of his style of game play.

Do you think there could be a reason he had 4 injured QB's the year before he came here?

He doesn't CARE about the offense, it seems like they are a nuisance to him the way he talks.

If a fighter is constantly moving backwards they can't effectively attack their opponent.

It works the same way on offense.

A conservative offense gets QB's KILLED!!!

[Chiefster]

i was a young gun at the time of marty ball, so i really have no idea what he was like back then. wish i did. all i know is i loved the chiefs and anything about them back then....so i just figured marty was the greatest thing ever since he was the coach of my team. :drunkhb:

Aaaah yeas, to view the world once again through young innocent eyes.

[hermhater]

i was a young gun at the time of marty ball, so i really have no idea what he was like back then. wish i did. all i know is i loved the chiefs and anything about them back then....so i just figured marty was the greatest thing ever since he was the coach of my team. :drunkhb:


Marty was stupid enough to actually make a commercial making fun of himself on local tv for some car dealership where he was the only fan in the stadium and his line was to stand up and yell "RUN IT UP THE MIDDLE!"

Making fun of himself.

We delivered a piano to his house when he lived here and he was about as rude as a human could be.

Treated us like we were second class citizens.

I hate Marty just about as much as HERM, but for different reasons.

[hermhater]

Talk about someone that would run the ball up the gut on 3rd and 15... That's Marty back in the day.

HERM does the exact same thing!?!?!?!?!?

Why?

[timsatt1]

HERM does the exact same thing!?!?!?!?!?

Why?


who were some of the stand out players during martys era in KC? please refresh my mind. who was runningback? QB? i know montana ended his career there, but who was before him?

[Chiefster]

I was all for the guy last year hoping he could even BUILD on the monster that Dick left us.

I know he got screwed the first week by Trent getting concussed, but it is because of his style of game play.

Do you think there could be a reason he had 4 injured QB's the year before he came here?

He doesn't CARE about the offense, it seems like they are a nuisance to him the way he talks.

If a fighter is constantly moving backwards they can't effectively attack their opponent.

It works the same way on offense.

A conservative offense gets QB's KILLED!!!

...And has effectively said as much publicly.

[hermhater]

who were some of the stand out players during martys era in KC? please refresh my mind. who was runningback? QB? i know montana ended his career there, but who was before him?

We had Marcus Allen, I think he drafted Gonzo (help anyone), he made bad QB decisions (Frank Gannon went on to the Superbowl with the Raiders and he lost his job after winning all kinds of games for the Chiefs when the stinkin' Elvis Grbak came back from an injury, just like last year when Trent came back after Damon won all those years.)

We have been living a nightmare here in KC for about 36 years.

[hermhater]

...And has effectively said as much publicly.

The guy doesn't care what he says.

I personally am still reeling over the:

"I don't even have the internet."

OMG!

[rbedgood]

Aaaah yeas, to view the world once again...


FYP!!!

[timsatt1]

We had Marcus Allen, I think he drafted Gonzo (help anyone), he made bad QB decisions (Frank Gannon went on to the Superbowl with the Raiders and he lost his job after winning all kinds of games for the Chiefs when the stinkin' Elvis Grbak came back from an injury, just like last year when Trent came back after Damon won all those years.)

We have been living a nightmare here in KC for about 36 years.

ok yeah, i didnt know if marcus allen, rich gannon and grbak played during martys era....but they did and i remember those games well. i loved seeing the chiefs have the ball on the opponents 3 yard line and marcus jumping over the d line for the touchdowns!!! LONG LIVE MARCUs.

you may have been living a nightmare the last 36 years...but i was in heaven during dick vermeils era....my favorite days ever as a chiefs fan. no they didnt win it all, but THEY BROUGHT MORE EXCITEMENT DURING EACH GAME THEN I WILL EVER SEE AGAIN IN MY LIFE!!!

[hermhater]

ok yeah, i didnt know if marcus allen, rich gannon and grbak played during martys era....but they did and i remember those games well. i loved seeing the chiefs have the ball on the opponents 3 yard line and marcus jumping over the d line for the touchdowns!!! LONG LIVE MARCUs.

you may have been living a nightmare the last 36 years...but i was in heaven during dick vermeils era....my favorite days ever as a chiefs fan. no they didnt win it all, but THEY BROUGHT MORE EXCITEMENT DURING EACH GAME THEN I WILL EVER SEE AGAIN IN MY LIFE!!!

Don't say that... HERM might be listening in (he HAS to actually have the internet right?)

When we get Brody and DBowe on the field it will rival Manning/Harrison, I'm telling you all!

Even HERM will try to score after he gets us behind in every game right?

[timsatt1]

Don't say that... HERM might be listening in (he HAS to actually have the internet right?)

When we get Brody and DBowe on the field it will rival Manning/Harrison, I'm telling you all!

Even HERM will try to score after he gets us behind in every game right?

man, i am WITH YOU!!! Brody, Gonzalez, BOWIE!!!!!!! oh man, i would LOVE TO SEE IT!!!

[Chiefster]

FYP!!!


Heh!:lol:

Are you typing to me??? I don't have my trifocals on.

[luv]

i was a young gun at the time of marty ball, so i really have no idea what he was like back then. wish i did. all i know is i loved the chiefs and anything about them back then....so i just figured marty was the greatest thing ever since he was the coach of my team. :drunkhb:
You're still a young gun.

[Canada]

The guy doesn't care what he says.

I personally am still reeling over the:

"I don't even have the internet."

OMG!

Hey....we don't have the internet in Canada!! :bananen_smilies046:



Texas Chief...I am kidding....I am on the internet right now!! That is how I am able to post here....yes, we also have computers!! :bananen_smilies046:

[hermhater]

Hey....we don't have the internet in Canada!! :bananen_smilies046:



Texas Chief...I am kidding....I am on the internet right now!! That is how I am able to post here....yes, we also have computers!! :bananen_smilies046:

I think you scared that guy off.

Notice the subtle italicizing of the word Texas. (show the femininity of the lone stare state)

[Canada]

Did you know that all my ex's live in....aww forget it, texas sux

[hermhater]

Did you know that all my ex's live in....aww forget it, texas sux

...and kansas blows, sigh...

[hermhater]

...and kansas blows, sigh...

...is it windy in oklahoma...?

[chief31]

If you do a little research, I bet the avg. record for coaches is right around 50%.


How much research do you think needs to be done, to figure this one out?

:lol:

[DrunkHillbilly]

How much research do you think needs to be done, to figure this one out?

:lol:

I thought my sarcasm was evident.:yahoo:

[Chiefster]

I thought my sarcasm was evident.:yahoo:

Alas, your sarcasm was woefully inadequate. :D

[chief31]

I thought my sarcasm was evident.:yahoo:


Alas, your sarcasm was woefully inadequate. :D

I have noticed, in some of my own posts, that it tends to sound like obvious sarcasm, in ones head, but tends to sound like one is just a dumbass, once the post is submitted. ( Not calling anyone a dumbass.)

Still, my mistake, hillbilly. :D

[DrunkHillbilly]

I have noticed, in some of my own posts, that it tends to sound like obvious sarcasm, in ones head, but tends to sound like one is just a dumbass, once the post is submitted. ( Not calling anyone a dumbass.)

Still, my mistake, hillbilly. :D

Well, atleast I know the gloves are off!!:D

[chief31]

Well, atleast I know the gloves are off!!:D

The gloves are on the ice and the back of my shirt is tied down. It is on!!!!

:brutale_smilies010:

:lol:

[McLovin]

I became a Chiefs fan during Martyball.. but don't want that time back. Was laughing my a.. off when the dolts fired him. Can't stand Marty never could, loved Vermeil, so happy when he left STL and became the Chiefs head coach, but... dont know if it was the timing or the one sided all offense team, but as sad as it was when he retired it was kinda a relief, thought getting Herm was great, hopefully he will read some post on the internet and step up and bring the offense back, they say defense wins games ... but even the best defense cant win every game if they are on the field all day and there are no offensive points scored. To make a long story short, I believe Herm-Hater may be my long lost brother, Hate Marty, Not liking Herm (was hoping the streaker .. (thinking maybe Canada? lol) would tackle and knock Herm & Solari out of the game. Not quite a Herm Hater .. yet but he is on a short lease. My top 3 coaches... COWHER COWHER COWHER ... um really top 3 Cowher (used to be the Chiefs D-Coordinator not a far stretch) Kirk Ferentz (Iowa Hawkeyes NCAA,) and even though I HATE the Illini (live very near Champaign home of the Illini) Illinois coach (not Ron Turner) but Ron Zook... Could be a great coach if he could do the recruiting and scouting in the NFL that he does in the NCAA. There are others but that is a short list. The list though would NEVER include.. Marty, Andy Reid, Belichick, or Coughlin.... Here is a thought .. bring back Al Saunders as Head Coach.. let him fire Solari and bring in someone to learn from him.

[hermhater]

I became a Chiefs fan during Martyball.. but don't want that time back. Was laughing my a.. off when the dolts fired him. Can't stand Marty never could, loved Vermeil, so happy when he left STL and became the Chiefs head coach, but... dont know if it was the timing or the one sided all offense team, but as sad as it was when he retired it was kinda a relief, thought getting Herm was great, hopefully he will read some post on the internet and step up and bring the offense back, they say defense wins games ... but even the best defense cant win every game if they are on the field all day and there are no offensive points scored. To make a long story short, I believe Herm-Hater may be my long lost brother, Hate Marty, Not liking Herm (was hoping the streaker .. (thinking maybe Canada? lol) would tackle and knock Herm & Solari out of the game. Not quite a Herm Hater .. yet but he is on a short lease. My top 3 coaches... COWHER COWHER COWHER ... um really top 3 Cowher (used to be the Chiefs D-Coordinator not a far stretch) Kirk Ferentz (Iowa Hawkeyes NCAA,) and even though I HATE the Illini (live very near Champaign home of the Illini) Illinois coach (not Ron Turner) but Ron Zook... Could be a great coach if he could do the recruiting and scouting in the NFL that he does in the NCAA. There are others but that is a short list. The list though would NEVER include.. Marty, Andy Reid, Belichick, or Coughlin.... Here is a thought .. bring back Al Saunders as Head Coach.. let him fire Solari and bring in someone to learn from him.


nuff said!

[Guru]

Bring back Vermeil to run the O and Marty to run the D.

That should solve all our problems.

[hermhater]

Bring back Vermeil to run the O and Marty to run the D.

That should solve all our problems.

Clash of the Titans?

:beer:

[Guru]

Clash of the Titans?

:beer:

I have always said the perfect coach for this team is Dick Schottenheimer.

[hermhater]

I have always said the perfect coach for this team is Dick Schottenheimer.

Wouldn't that be a dream?

:beer::sign0098:

[sling58]

I want Cowher

[Smed1065]

I got tired of Marty but liked him. Marty did seem to learn to let the OC have more control in SD.

I like Cowher but I feel a change next round is needed. A thorough cleansing with the Chiefs, if it does not work this time around.

I noticed CP mentioned and bragged about Jared Page being form UCLA last night but he seemed to forget to mention Medlock? :D

[DrunkHillbilly]

nuff said!


Are you kidding me??? Did you see the playy calling in the Washington game last week? TERRIBLE!!! 1st and goal with seconds to go in the game. Score and the Skins win. 4 RUNNING PLAYS AND THEY GOT STUFFED!!!! Al Saunders SUCKS IMO!!

[Canada]

Are you kidding me??? Did you see the playy calling in the Washington game last week? TERRIBLE!!! 1st and goal with seconds to go in the game. Score and the Skins win. 4 RUNNING PLAYS AND THEY GOT STUFFED!!!! Al Saunders SUCKS IMO!!

Almost seems like that might have something to do with they players on the field!!

[McLovin]

Are you kidding me??? Did you see the playy calling in the Washington game last week? TERRIBLE!!! 1st and goal with seconds to go in the game. Score and the Skins win. 4 RUNNING PLAYS AND THEY GOT STUFFED!!!! Al Saunders SUCKS IMO!!

And for what its worth, after the game Gibbs said that he took over the play calling and that was all on him. Also no timeouts and had Portis on the bench.

Should see one of the skins boards they are saying this isnt the Chiefs Offense and that Gibbs should step back and let Saunders run it.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213293&page=2

If we cant get Saunders back as Head Coach what bout getting him back as O Coordinator.. again Im back to fire Herm and / or Solari