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Lazeye
01-03-2011, 05:38 PM
There should be no reason why we get beat at home by this team. This is their performance last sunday at their house. Looks to me like Cinci could not finish and Ravens had luck way on their side.

Team Statistics

Team Statistics Comparison: Cincinnati Bengals / Baltimore Ravens
Team Statistics

Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin)/Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal)
First Downs
20/10
Passing
14/5
Rushing
5/4
Penalty
1/1

Total Yards
395/199
Turnovers
5/2
Time of Possession
34:42/25:18
Third Down Efficiency
7-17/2-11
Fourth Down Efficiency
0-2/0-0
Total Net Yards
395/199
Total Plays
76/50
Average Gain Per Play
5.2/4.0
Net Yards Rushing
90/98
Rushes
31/27
Average Per Rush
2.9/3.6
Net Yards Passing
305/101
Completions-Attempts
32-45/14-19
Yards Per Pass Play
6.8/4.4
Times Sacked
0/4
Yards Lost to Sacks
0/24
Had Intercepted
2/1
Punts
4/7
Average Punt40.5/47.9
Penalties
4/7
Penalty Yards
49/45
Fumbles
4/1
Fumbles Lost
3/1

Ryfo18
01-03-2011, 05:46 PM
People will call me crazy, but this is definitely a game we can win, even by a couple of scores. They have a mediocre offense and rely on an aging defense to keep games close. Their results this season suggest that they are not a completely dominating D like they once were. I'm not making any guarantees, but there is no reason to think we can't win this game, especially having the home crowd amped up. I think their offense has a very difficult time moving the ball on us.

Lazeye
01-03-2011, 05:51 PM
ok my bad on how the stats showed up it did not look like that when I did it. Coach can you just go ahead and delete this please

matthewschiefs
01-03-2011, 05:52 PM
People will call me crazy, but this is definitely a game we can win, even by a couple of scores. They have a mediocre offense and rely on an aging defense to keep games close. Their results this season suggest that they are not a completely dominating D like they once were. I'm not making any guarantees, but there is no reason to think we can't win this game, especially having the home crowd amped up. I think their offense has a very difficult time moving the ball on us.

The more I think about this game the better I start to feel. I would have really loved to see the Jets but we can beat the ravens. We Just have to run the game like we did most of the year.

SIC J
01-03-2011, 06:13 PM
No reason why the Chiefs can't beat them. Ravens have 12 games decided by 7 points or less in a winning or losing effort. They don't put up big numbers and I'm not sold on Flacco yet. Put pressure on the guy and he folds.

Chiefs will need to look to pass the ball early though to try and open the run game. I'm afraid if they try to run the ball first, they might wait to long to try to pass and it will cost them the game. Its the playoffs. Time to open up the play book!!!!

chiefnut
01-03-2011, 06:17 PM
every game is winnable, we only need to play well or at least better than the other team.

chief31
01-03-2011, 07:27 PM
There should be no reason why we get beat at home by this team. This is their performance last sunday at their house. Looks to me like Cinci could not finish and Ravens had luck way on their side.

Team Statistics

Team Statistics Comparison: Cincinnati Bengals / Baltimore Ravens
Team Statistics

Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin)/Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal)
First Downs
20/10
Passing
14/5
Rushing
5/4
Penalty
1/1

Total Yards
395/199
Turnovers
5/2
Time of Possession
34:42/25:18
Third Down Efficiency
7-17/2-11
Fourth Down Efficiency
0-2/0-0
Total Net Yards
395/199
Total Plays
76/50
Average Gain Per Play
5.2/4.0
Net Yards Rushing
90/98
Rushes
31/27
Average Per Rush
2.9/3.6
Net Yards Passing
305/101
Completions-Attempts
32-45/14-19
Yards Per Pass Play
6.8/4.4
Times Sacked
0/4
Yards Lost to Sacks
0/24
Had Intercepted
2/1
Punts
4/7
Average Punt40.5/47.9
Penalties
4/7
Penalty Yards
49/45
Fumbles
4/1
Fumbles Lost
3/1


That should make it a little easier to read.

I think that we need to do alot of play-action with Jones, and give the bulk of our rushing attempts to JC, away from the middle of the line.

ctchiefsfan
01-03-2011, 10:57 PM
No doubt we can beat them. But we need to make sure they don't get up early and quiet the crowd down. We NEED the 12th man Sunday!

Lazeye
01-03-2011, 11:40 PM
That should make it a little easier to read.

I think that we need to do alot of play-action with Jones, and give the bulk of our rushing attempts to JC, away from the middle of the line.
Thank you
I do think JC should get the bulk of the carries and include T Moeaki a whole lot more

tornadospotter
01-04-2011, 01:04 AM
Chief31, I am challenging you with a question, Chiefs Tight End that has the best stats in a rookie year, for the Chiefs? Please post answer with the stats!

Ryfo18
01-04-2011, 01:07 AM
Chief31, I am challenging you with a question, Chiefs Tight End that has the best stats in a rookie year, for the Chiefs? Please post answer with the stats!

That's an easy one. His name is Tony!

OMGLadyGaga
01-04-2011, 02:20 AM
Yep Baltimore despite a solid record and presumibaly "amazing" defense hasnt really been too impressive this year, on either side of the ball. However, they have been to the playoffs time and time again and have proven capable of winning close hard fought games.

There is no way their offense puts up many points on us as long as we can contain the run. Although they have some great recievers(Boldin, TJ Houz?????, Mason), Flacco struggles to get the ball to them. Also our secondary has been playing great as of late and Carr, Flowers are doing an exceptional job in man on man coverage.

Our LB's need to be able to contain the run and if we can do that and force Flacco to throw the ball against us then Hali can put pressure and our secondary can hopefully get a few turnovers.

As for our offense, it looks great one week and then looks paltry the next. Against the Ravens I do think that we will struggle a bit, especially running the ball. Thomas Jones is not gonna get many yards at all and only "waste" downs unfortunately. Jamaal Charles needs to come in prepared to get fed the ball and also make plays out of the backfield on passing plays. Any player covering him is gonna be a mismatch in our favor. We also need to be able to sustain drives, as the aging Ravens D has gotten very tired in games this season due to being on the field so long. If we can tire them out then we can run and pass on them at will. I cant wait for this game and although I realize we are the underdogs if we play up to our abilities as a team, there is no way we dont win this in our home turf! Bring on Brady and the Patriots...oh wait :(

Fastphilly
01-04-2011, 03:40 AM
The only thing that worries me is the OL play..Thats a part of the offence you can't change the playbook on..It's brute force that gets the job done and the way we looked on Sunday against a physical DL I have my worries.

kcvet
01-04-2011, 10:13 AM
that was the old regular season.

we start a new one Sunday. and so do they

pojote
01-04-2011, 10:26 AM
Where in the field Rice run most of the times? the middle? sides?
In the last game, longest runs by Bush where on the left side.

On Ravens D, the weakest spots are the sides, just where JC is more dangerous.

chief31
01-04-2011, 05:01 PM
Chief31, I am challenging you with a question, Chiefs Tight End that has the best stats in a rookie year, for the Chiefs? Please post answer with the stats!

I'm not even sure how to do that, short of going through every single season, to make sure I don't overlook someone.

But, Mo's rookie season has better stats than Gonzo's did.

chief31
01-04-2011, 05:32 PM
Fred Arbanas - Fred Arbanas NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/ArbaFr00.htm)

1962 (Dallas Texans/14 game season) 29 Catches - 469 Yards - 16.2 Avg. - 6 TDs

Walter White - Walter White NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WhitWa00.htm)

1975 (14game season) 23 Catches - 559 Yards - 24.3 Avg, - 3 TDs

Tony Gonzalez - Tony Gonzalez NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GonzTo00.htm)

1997 - 33 Catches - 368 Yards - 11.2 Avg. - 2 TDs

Tony Moeaki - Tony Moeaki NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoeaTo00.htm)

2010 (16 game season) 47 Catches - 556 Yards - 11.8 Avg. - 3 TDs

Chiefster
01-04-2011, 05:37 PM
Fred Arbanas - Fred Arbanas NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/ArbaFr00.htm)

1962 (Dallas Texans/14 game season) 29 Catches - 469 Yards - 16.2 Avg. - 6 TDs

Walter White - Walter White NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WhitWa00.htm)

1975 (14game season) 23 Catches - 559 Yards - 24.3 Avg, - 3 TDs

Tony Gonzalez - Tony Gonzalez NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GonzTo00.htm)

1997 - 33 Catches - 368 Yards - 11.2 Avg. - 2 TDs

Tony Moeaki - Tony Moeaki NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoeaTo00.htm)

2010 (16 game season) 47 Catches - 556 Yards - 11.8 Avg. - 3 TDs

Nice research!

4everchiefsfan25
01-04-2011, 06:06 PM
The only thing that worries me is the OL play..Thats a part of the offence you can't change the playbook on..It's brute force that gets the job done and the way we looked on Sunday against a physical DL I have my worries.
I have to agree the few times the Chiefs have played a more physical D-line our O-line has gotten whooped I hope we can just put the Ravens D on their heals and make them start thinking of what their assignment is and that will slow them down a lot.

ctchiefsfan
01-04-2011, 08:24 PM
We're going to beat the ugly birds! But it will be close! Our D is going to force a turnover that gets us a FG or TD and our Special teams will buy us a TD or FG too. That's going to be the difference in the game.

:chiefs::chiefs::chiefs: GO CHIEFS!!!

Drunker Hillbilly
01-04-2011, 08:39 PM
Play action, play action, play action!!!!!! I did not read any previous posts so someone may have said this already but I think this is one key way we could win this game. If the O line has another poor outing play action doesn't leave Cassel just standing there waiting for the pocket to collapse. Also with the success that Jones and Charles have had, this will certainly keep the DB's and safety's honest.

ctchiefsfan
01-05-2011, 12:00 AM
Play action, play action, play action!!!!!! I did not read any previous posts so someone may have said this already but I think this is one key way we could win this game. If the O line has another poor outing play action doesn't leave Cassel just standing there waiting for the pocket to collapse. Also with the success that Jones and Charles have had, this will certainly keep the DB's and safety's honest.

Play action will only work if we establish some sort of running game.

In the Oakland and Tennessee games it seemed to me that we had Cassel throwing more from the start than he has in the past. If we can get a few first downs on the ground on the opening drive or two, I think we can make play action work. And if it does, we can........

STOMP THE RAVENS INTO THE DUST!!!!

:chiefs::chiefs::chiefs: GO CHIEFS!!!!!

ctchiefsfan
01-05-2011, 12:37 AM
Lordy be!!!!!!

Chiefs make the playoffs and the "non-believers" come out of the woodwork!

WHAT

IS

UP

WITH

THAT?!?!?!?!?

:chiefs::chiefs::chiefs: GO CHIEFS!!!

Lazeye
01-05-2011, 12:48 AM
Lordy be!!!!!!

Chiefs make the playoffs and the "non-believers" come out of the woodwork!

GO CHIEFS!!!

Who are you calling this?

ctchiefsfan
01-05-2011, 01:09 AM
Who are you calling this?

Read the post above mine. Anyone who says we can't beat the ugly birds is a "non believer"!

Not meant as an insult, but this is the PLAYOFFS! NO ROOM FOR NON BELIEVERS!!!

:chiefs::chiefs::chiefs: GO CHIEFS!!!!

BaltoGuy
01-05-2011, 01:14 AM
OK...Here I am...Have at it...LOL
I just wanted to chime in here and just give my two cents worth. KC can absolutely win this game. Keep our Defense an the feild and you may have a chance. Yes our D isnt the same ol' D we use to have. But they still have big time play makers.

Dont read much into the Cinncy stats, Cinncy has had our number for years. They match up really well with the Ravens and Marvin Lewis is 5-2 against us.

The ravens have lost all of the four games by a combined total of 11 points. They have lost the lead in the fourth quater 9 times and of course lost four of them. If KC cant get the running game going they may be in for a long day.

Regaurdless if the Ravens D is old, they are a tough group. There are several veterans on this team that understand where they are. You guys shouldnt come in this game thinking that you arejust happy to just be in the playoffs. The Ravens are very battled tested. They want to lower you into a knock down slobber knocker. ....Dont do it. You will lose.You want to watch tape on how to beat the Ravens ...check the Atlanta game. We were absolutely better then them but they had a great game plan.

On offense , if Flacco and the recievers get hot...forget about it.(dont worry it hasnt happened that often) That said...they do have several players that are playmakers. One of the best opinions I seen anyone make was toward your 12th man. Michael Oher...LT has more false starts then anyother LT in the league....DRIVE KILLER!!!! You guys can absolutely win this game.

matthewschiefs
01-05-2011, 01:24 AM
OK...Here I am...Have at it...LOL
I just wanted to chime in here and just give my two cents worth. KC can absolutely win this game. Keep our Defense an the feild and you may have a chance. Yes our D isnt the same ol' D we use to have. But they still have big time play makers.

Dont read much into the Cinncy stats, Cinncy has had our number for years. They match up really well with the Ravens and Marvin Lewis is 5-2 against us.

The ravens have lost all of the four games by a combined total of 11 points. They have lost the lead in the fourth quater 9 times and of course lost four of them. If KC cant get the running game going they may be in for a long day.

Regaurdless if the Ravens D is old, they are a tough group. There are several veterans on this team that understand where they are. You guys shouldnt come in this game thinking that you arejust happy to just be in the playoffs. The Ravens are very battled tested. They want to lower you into a knock down slobber knocker. ....Dont do it. You will lose.You want to watch tape on how to beat the Ravens ...check the Atlanta game. We were absolutely better then them but they had a great game plan.

On offense , if Flacco and the recievers get hot...forget about it.(dont worry it hasnt happened that often) That said...they do have several players that are playmakers. One of the best opinions I seen anyone make was toward your 12th man. Michael Oher...LT has more false starts then anyother LT in the league....DRIVE KILLER!!!! You guys can absolutely win this game.

First of all Welcome Glad to have A raven fan that's not just here to troll.

You guys should be the favorites to win this game even with it being at Arrowhead. On paper you are far ahead of us. You D not being the same is still a very good NFL defense. They might get winded a bit sooner then they use to but they are still very good. It will be very tough for us to put points on the board.

The 12th man is going to be a big thing for your offense to overcome. They can and have changed games in the past including this season. I don't no if you saw our MNF game this season but that crowd was a big reason that we won that football game. That's the crowd that your walking into. We HAVE to stop Ray Rice 1st to even think about shutting you offense down. Boldin is anther weapon. The good thing for us is that we Have Todd Haley who has worked with Boldin in the past and nos what his strenghts and weakness are.

I look for a good close game. It's not going to be a blow out either way. Just good old fashion PLAYOFF FOOTBALL. Something us Chiefs fans have not seen in a long time. I would say good luck to your team but I would be lieing:lol: :chiefs:

BaltoGuy
01-05-2011, 01:39 AM
NO problem...Noise hasnt seem to bother us to much, Oher is a Rookie and has had a tough time with it all year. How is your Def. End? anygood? and also How is your LT? If he is sub-par watch out for Suggs to have an impact. A good one can handle Suggs....but he has to be real good. Ray Lewis is TWO steps slower, thing is he is a Hall of Famer so you really dont know what he will do. Usaually Great players show up for games like this.
I have seen a little of KC but not enought to make an educated analysis of them.If KC can play fast that will bode well.Keep up the pace. KC cant be itimidated by the Ravens.The Ravens preconcieved reputation sometimes gets in the head of their opponent. If KC dosnt back down early they will be in it to win it at the end. They need to keep Baltimore close. Dont let them get up by 2 td's or it will be over.They should go NO-Huddle often and early. First possesion...go no huddle....get them sucking wind early...be patient...there will be plays to be made. But with the Ravens you need to create these opportunities. They wont give you any...

matthewschiefs
01-05-2011, 01:59 AM
NO problem...Noise hasnt seem to bother us to much, Oher is a Rookie and has had a tough time with it all year. How is your Def. End? anygood? and also How is your LT? If he is sub-par watch out for Suggs to have an impact. A good one can handle Suggs....but he has to be real good. Ray Lewis is TWO steps slower, thing is he is a Hall of Famer so you really dont know what he will do. Usaually Great players show up for games like this.
I have seen a little of KC but not enought to make an educated analysis of them.If KC can play fast that will bode well.Keep up the pace. KC cant be itimidated by the Ravens.The Ravens preconcieved reputation sometimes gets in the head of their opponent. If KC dosnt back down early they will be in it to win it at the end. They need to keep Baltimore close. Dont let them get up by 2 td's or it will be over.They should go NO-Huddle often and early. First possesion...go no huddle....get them sucking wind early...be patient...there will be plays to be made. But with the Ravens you need to create these opportunities. They wont give you any...

Our DEs are really not who you should worry about they are much better at stopping the run. You stop Hali from getting to your QB your QB will have time to throw the football. Hail is a real good player. IT's a real shame he's not in the pro bowl. If we are going to get to your Qb he's the one that's going to do it.

Our O line Across the board is hit and miss. They have looked really good at times and then there are games like our last one when it looked like we had no o line. We have to have a day that our O line looks really good. IF they have one of there down games we are in big trouble In that case we have to look out for your whole D line. And Cassel will be picking himself off the ground all day.

I think that if either team gets a 2td lead that it's just about over. We are not good enough to overcome that against your D and if you get down 2tds you will have to deal with ARROWHEAD at it's loudest. When that happens there is no crowd like it. Theres a reason teams have feared comeing to arrowhead. It went away for a while but it's comeing back.

ctchiefsfan
01-05-2011, 02:11 AM
OK...Here I am...Have at it...LOL
I just wanted to chime in here and just give my two cents worth. KC can absolutely win this game. Keep our Defense an the feild and you may have a chance. Yes our D isnt the same ol' D we use to have. But they still have big time play makers.

Dont read much into the Cinncy stats, Cinncy has had our number for years. They match up really well with the Ravens and Marvin Lewis is 5-2 against us.

The ravens have lost all of the four games by a combined total of 11 points. They have lost the lead in the fourth quater 9 times and of course lost four of them. If KC cant get the running game going they may be in for a long day.

Regaurdless if the Ravens D is old, they are a tough group. There are several veterans on this team that understand where they are. You guys shouldnt come in this game thinking that you arejust happy to just be in the playoffs. The Ravens are very battled tested. They want to lower you into a knock down slobber knocker. ....Dont do it. You will lose.You want to watch tape on how to beat the Ravens ...check the Atlanta game. We were absolutely better then them but they had a great game plan.

On offense , if Flacco and the recievers get hot...forget about it.(dont worry it hasnt happened that often) That said...they do have several players that are playmakers. One of the best opinions I seen anyone make was toward your 12th man. Michael Oher...LT has more false starts then anyother LT in the league....DRIVE KILLER!!!! You guys can absolutely win this game.

My respect for coming here and doing it with some class!

Lets be honest......I don't think many of us wanted to play your guys...most of us wanted the Jets.

I think we would have hammered them!

I think we will beat you in a close game.....or you will blow us away.

If you get up early, shut up our crowd, then I think our goose is cooked.

We are a young team and a lot of our wins have come from pure desire rather than experienced talent.

2/3/4 years from now.....FUGGEDOUTABOUTIT!!!

We are building a dynasty that will make the Splats seem insignificant!

But back to the game......

We have to establish the run early. If we do, we can run play action and leave your guys in a heap.

If we don't establish a running game early, then I will probably be drinking whiskey instead of beer by the third quarter.

YES!!!! We can beat your guys. And my gut is telling me we will.

But I am not ashamed to say, I wish we had the Jets instead of you!

pojote
01-05-2011, 09:30 AM
If speed would get a win against Ravens, DMC should be a key in play calling. Also JC has to run to the sides, specially left side.

I was watching long runs against Ravens D, they allowed just 6 20+ runs, most of them were reversibles or direct snaps. Something tells me it's a (healthy) DMC job to do.

Coach
01-05-2011, 10:33 AM
OK...Here I am...Have at it...LOL
I just wanted to chime in here and just give my two cents worth. KC can absolutely win this game. Keep our Defense an the feild and you may have a chance. Yes our D isnt the same ol' D we use to have. But they still have big time play makers.

Dont read much into the Cinncy stats, Cinncy has had our number for years. They match up really well with the Ravens and Marvin Lewis is 5-2 against us.

The ravens have lost all of the four games by a combined total of 11 points. They have lost the lead in the fourth quater 9 times and of course lost four of them. If KC cant get the running game going they may be in for a long day.

Regaurdless if the Ravens D is old, they are a tough group. There are several veterans on this team that understand where they are. You guys shouldnt come in this game thinking that you arejust happy to just be in the playoffs. The Ravens are very battled tested. They want to lower you into a knock down slobber knocker. ....Dont do it. You will lose.You want to watch tape on how to beat the Ravens ...check the Atlanta game. We were absolutely better then them but they had a great game plan.

On offense , if Flacco and the recievers get hot...forget about it.(dont worry it hasnt happened that often) That said...they do have several players that are playmakers. One of the best opinions I seen anyone make was toward your 12th man. Michael Oher...LT has more false starts then anyother LT in the league....DRIVE KILLER!!!! You guys can absolutely win this game.

I wish other Ravens fans would read this before posting. This is how you come to another team's forum and add useful content and meaningful conversation. The idiots from other teams that come on here and lead with "your team sucks and we are going to kill you" is waste of everyone's time.
Excellent first post!

I really think it depends on what team shows up for the Chiefs. If its the team of intimidated Chiefs that went to San Diego, we are in for a very long day. If it is the team of heartless sandbaggers that played last Sunday, we're going to get embarrassed again this weekend. But if it's the Chiefs team that played the other 14 games this year, we have a very good shot at winning this game.

Just as Balto said, this defense is very beatable. But they also have serious playmakers with a wealth of experience. They will get at least 1 turnover against the Chiefs. If the Chiefs can win the turnover battle, they will win this game.

Ryfo18
01-05-2011, 11:37 AM
NO problem...Noise hasnt seem to bother us to much, Oher is a Rookie and has had a tough time with it all year. How is your Def. End? anygood? and also How is your LT? If he is sub-par watch out for Suggs to have an impact. A good one can handle Suggs....but he has to be real good. Ray Lewis is TWO steps slower, thing is he is a Hall of Famer so you really dont know what he will do. Usaually Great players show up for games like this.
I have seen a little of KC but not enought to make an educated analysis of them.If KC can play fast that will bode well.Keep up the pace. KC cant be itimidated by the Ravens.The Ravens preconcieved reputation sometimes gets in the head of their opponent. If KC dosnt back down early they will be in it to win it at the end. They need to keep Baltimore close. Dont let them get up by 2 td's or it will be over.They should go NO-Huddle often and early. First possesion...go no huddle....get them sucking wind early...be patient...there will be plays to be made. But with the Ravens you need to create these opportunities. They wont give you any...

Our DE's aren't big playmakers, but I've said this a bunch: The matchup to watch is Hali vs. Oher. I personally think Hali can have a field day on Oher, and then once he gets rattled we will see some false starts.

On the other side though, Suggs can definitely beat our LT Branden Albert. So it'll be interesting to watch if either of our LT's can step up.

I definitely think this is going to be a close, low scoring game. Flacco has won playoff road games, but he hasn't been electric in really any playoff game. Despite a 3-2 record, he's 57/120 for 647 yards, 1 TD, and 6 INTs in 5 playoff games. The Chiefs are definitely going to have to stop the run and force Flacco to win the game. Cassel has never been in the postseason, so it will be interesting to see how he plays under the pressure of the postseason

Either way, welcome to the ChiefsCrowd, thanks for the classy post! Some other schmuck came here on Sunday and decided he was going to talk some lame smack. Much rather have some fans of the opposing teams that want to talk about what to look for in the game!:chiefs::chiefs:

buffman316
01-05-2011, 11:44 AM
This could be a situation like the Monday night game with insane fans and on fire players. If we play to the best of our ability and the old Arrowhead is back, we could finally get this playoff monkey off our backs! Baltimore is not invincible and plays most of their games closes.

4everchiefsfan25
01-05-2011, 12:00 PM
This could be a situation like the Monday night game with insane fans and on fire players. If we play to the best of our ability and the old Arrowhead is back, we could finally get this playoff monkey off our backs! Baltimore is not invincible and plays most of their games closes.
Flacco has thrown 1 TD and 6 INTs in his post season games so if the crowd can really get into his head I think it might be a very long day for Flacco

chief31
01-05-2011, 07:27 PM
Play action will only work if we establish some sort of running game.



Being the NFL's #1 running team all season long eliminates the need to 'establish' it. It is already established.

The Ravens will be looking for it.

If we come in with alot of play-action, right out of the gates, then The Ravens will likely be taken by surprise.

BaltoGuy
01-05-2011, 07:56 PM
You would think on the surface play action would work...but I doubt it. These are vetran players who are very disaplined...They usaually dont bite on stuff like that. The running game will take you to the promised land.

This game will be won and lost by the coaching staffs of each team. Baltimores offense has been so vanilla you can almost call the plays your self. Cam Cameron (offensive cordinator) has been on the hot seat all year. If KC coaching staff has scouted them properly they will be in the game. The Ravens have yet to use their highly touted off season addtions such as Boldin,Stallworth and T.J. Whosyourmama... Cameron is coaching for his professional job.

As far as the turn over battle is concerned, I doubt KC will win that one. Flacco has 4 INT's in the past 7 or so games. Ray Rice has not fumbled the ball all year...not one in 360 carries.

I agree with the notion to make Flacco beat you. Its not that he cant. He just hasnt shown it yet. The noise wont bother him, If he wants to be among the elite QB"s this is when he needs to step his game up. Around the league he is considered a very good QB, now will be a good test. As far as Matt Cassel is concerned, It is almost the same thing for him. How will he handle the Ravens mystic...can they get into his head. He needs to look them in the eye and say..."not today" This is my house! He has to show them and treat it like its his game to win. If they see in his eyes that he isnt ready to brawl they will get after him. The entire KC team needs to have that same attitude. Trust me...win or lose KC will know they have been in a war. Its going to be physical. Thats what the Ravens do best. Like I said, KC needs to play fast. Keep it up-tempo. Dont let the Ravens lay a glove on'em. Anybody see the Sunday night game against Pittsburgh? Thats the kind of game the Ravens bring.

KC has the best running game in the NFL, I am scared to death of this. If you guys get it going early we are in trouble. I am sure thats what your going to try to do. I would....

Thanks for the compliments...I just like talking football. I was a coach for many years. What does anybody prove comming in here pounding their chest...besides being an idiot? I wanted to see what take you folks have on the game....A viewpoint from the other side.

Boxermm187
01-05-2011, 08:09 PM
You would think on the surface play action would work...but I doubt it. These are vetran players who are very disaplined...They usaually dont bite on stuff like that. The running game will take you to the promised land.

This game will be won and lost by the coaching staffs of each team. Baltimores offense has been so vanilla you can almost call the plays your self. Cam Cameron (offensive cordinator) has been on the hot seat all year. If KC coaching staff has scouted them properly they will be in the game. The Ravens have yet to use their highly touted off season addtions such as Boldin,Stallworth and T.J. Whosyourmama... Cameron is coaching for his professional job.

As far as the turn over battle is concerned, I doubt KC will win that one. Flacco has 4 INT's in the past 7 or so games. Ray Rice has not fumbled the ball all year...not one in 360 carries.

I agree with the notion to make Flacco beat you. Its not that he cant. He just hasnt shown it yet. The noise wont bother him, If he wants to be among the elite QB"s this is when he needs to step his game up. Around the league he is considered a very good QB, now will be a good test. As far as Matt Cassel is concerned, It is almost the same thing for him. How will he handle the Ravens mystic...can they get into his head. He needs to look them in the eye and say..."not today" This is my house! He has to show them and treat it like its his game to win. If they see in his eyes that he isnt ready to brawl they will get after him. The entire KC team needs to have that same attitude. Trust me...win or lose KC will know they have been in a war. Its going to be physical. Thats what the Ravens do best. Like I said, KC needs to play fast. Keep it up-tempo. Dont let the Ravens lay a glove on'em. Anybody see the Sunday night game against Pittsburgh? Thats the kind of game the Ravens bring.

KC has the best running game in the NFL, I am scared to death of this. If you guys get it going early we are in trouble. I am sure thats what your going to try to do. I would....

Thanks for the compliments...I just like talking football. I was a coach for many years. What does anybody prove comming in here pounding their chest...besides being an idiot? I wanted to see what take you folks have on the game....A viewpoint from the other side.

nice to see an educated fan from the opposing team!

tornadospotter
01-05-2011, 09:11 PM
You would think on the surface play action would work...but I doubt it. These are vetran players who are very disaplined...They usaually dont bite on stuff like that. The running game will take you to the promised land.

This game will be won and lost by the coaching staffs of each team. Baltimores offense has been so vanilla you can almost call the plays your self. Cam Cameron (offensive cordinator) has been on the hot seat all year. If KC coaching staff has scouted them properly they will be in the game. The Ravens have yet to use their highly touted off season addtions such as Boldin,Stallworth and T.J. Whosyourmama... Cameron is coaching for his professional job.

As far as the turn over battle is concerned, I doubt KC will win that one. Flacco has 4 INT's in the past 7 or so games. Ray Rice has not fumbled the ball all year...not one in 360 carries.

I agree with the notion to make Flacco beat you. Its not that he cant. He just hasnt shown it yet. The noise wont bother him, If he wants to be among the elite QB"s this is when he needs to step his game up. Around the league he is considered a very good QB, now will be a good test. As far as Matt Cassel is concerned, It is almost the same thing for him. How will he handle the Ravens mystic...can they get into his head. He needs to look them in the eye and say..."not today" This is my house! He has to show them and treat it like its his game to win. If they see in his eyes that he isnt ready to brawl they will get after him. The entire KC team needs to have that same attitude. Trust me...win or lose KC will know they have been in a war. Its going to be physical. Thats what the Ravens do best. Like I said, KC needs to play fast. Keep it up-tempo. Dont let the Ravens lay a glove on'em. Anybody see the Sunday night game against Pittsburgh? Thats the kind of game the Ravens bring.

KC has the best running game in the NFL, I am scared to death of this. If you guys get it going early we are in trouble. I am sure thats what your going to try to do. I would....

Thanks for the compliments...I just like talking football. I was a coach for many years. What does anybody prove comming in here pounding their chest...besides being an idiot? I wanted to see what take you folks have on the game....A viewpoint from the other side.
Balto you are a classy guy and a great fan of this game called Football, and your team. Welcome to the Chiefs Crowd! I believe we need to come out with a fast tempo and wide open game plan, maybe even go no huddle to start. Try to get up early, then control the tempo of the game. But what do I know.

chief31
01-05-2011, 09:16 PM
You would think on the surface play action would work...but I doubt it. These are vetran players who are very disaplined...They usaually dont bite on stuff like that. The running game will take you to the promised land.



No matter how long one has done their job, when the #1 running team in the league comes out faking alot of handoffs, even Ray Lewis can find himself surprised.

BaltoGuy
01-05-2011, 09:19 PM
No matter how long one has done their job, when the #1 running team in the league comes out faking alot of handoffs, even Ray Lewis can find himself surprised.


Good point.....

Ryfo18
01-05-2011, 09:21 PM
I personally think that the Chiefs don't test the middle too much in the run game. Charles is one of the best at turning the corner (hence why he almost broke Jim Brown's ypc in a season record). I think it's pretty evident the Ravens will probably be able to control the line of scrimmage. The Chiefs will be better served by making Ray Lewis run sideways, not up the field. I'd hope to see a lot of passes to Charles and DMC in space and let them try to make plays.

4everchiefsfan25
01-05-2011, 10:08 PM
I personally think that the Chiefs don't test the middle too much in the run game. Charles is one of the best at turning the corner (hence why he almost broke Jim Brown's ypc in a season record). I think it's pretty evident the Ravens will probably be able to control the line of scrimmage. The Chiefs will be better served by making Ray Lewis run sideways, not up the field. I'd hope to see a lot of passes to Charles and DMC in space and let them try to make plays.
I think the Chiefs need to use the Ravens speed on defense against them. If we get a lot of misdirection plays and a lot of screens and stuff that would really help us out a lot.

pojote
01-06-2011, 09:44 AM
I think the Chiefs need to use the Ravens speed on defense against them. If we get a lot of misdirection plays and a lot of screens and stuff that would really help us out a lot.

All of that sounds like DMC to me.

4everchiefsfan25
01-06-2011, 09:50 AM
All of that sounds like DMC to me.
That does sound like DMC and also Charles our two fastest guys on offense

5oclock_charlie
01-06-2011, 02:25 PM
I think the Chiefs need to use the Ravens speed on defense against them. If we get a lot of misdirection plays and a lot of screens and stuff that would really help us out a lot.

Ravens fan here. This Ravens crew is not really a "fast" defense, and they're not overly agressive. Screens rarely work against them because they're quick to recognize them (especially Lewis and Suggs), and they are fairly disciplined.

Misdirection had been working earlier in the year, because the OLB's weren't staying home and controlling the edge, but that has improved. Their CB's are also much better tacklers than last year's crew, which has helped against runs to the outside.

The best way to exploit the Ravens' weaknesses is to get your TE and RB matched up against the linebackers. None of them are very good in coverage.

4everchiefsfan25
01-06-2011, 04:30 PM
Ravens fan here. This Ravens crew is not really a "fast" defense, and they're not overly agressive. Screens rarely work against them because they're quick to recognize them (especially Lewis and Suggs), and they are fairly disciplined.

Misdirection had been working earlier in the year, because the OLB's weren't staying home and controlling the edge, but that has improved. Their CB's are also much better tacklers than last year's crew, which has helped against runs to the outside.

The best way to exploit the Ravens' weaknesses is to get your TE and RB matched up against the linebackers. None of them are very good in coverage.
I think your right about our RB's matched up against your LB's I think if we can get McCluster involved I think it will be very hard for the Ravens to defend McCluster and Charles when they are in together.