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Jrudi
01-24-2011, 02:12 PM
I know later in the season Cassel has began to gain more respect from Chiefs fans, but until then he caught a lot of heat from the general public.

All I have to say to those who still give Cassel crap is that at least he not a person like Jay Cutler. As we all know Cutler displays his cry baby attitude on a weekly basis during the NFL season, but the act of waving a white flag while pouting on the sideline because the Packers dominated them in the 1st half was just down right pathetic.

I've heard people questioning his toughness, but I am not (he's been hit more than any QB this season) but I am questioning his Attitude, Leadership, and Heart; and thanking myself that we do not have a person like this at the most important position on the field. I mean he didn't even seem like he wanted to try to be back out on the field in the most important game of his career. I believe Cassel would have fought and scraped to get back in the game, and showed these characteristics in games this season (In Denver when the game was clearly over, he wouldn't let Haley sit him or any other starters to rest and prevent injury, and In St, Louis a few days after an Appendectomy.)

Cassel may not have eye popping #'s (even though his TD/INT ratio was excellent this season) but he does have the Leadership, Heart, and Drive to make his team strive to do better. And that is why I am thankful to have him leading our team and not a person like Jay Cutler.

What are your thoughts?

Vanilla Garilla
01-24-2011, 02:32 PM
Thank god our QBs name is Matt Cassel and not Jay Cutler. Spoiled baby QBs make me sick!

Ryfo18
01-24-2011, 02:56 PM
I hate to defend Cutler, but the guy was hurt. I think the way the media portrays him makes it seem like he quit on his team. Listen, if the guy is hurt and can't play, he can't play. It was the coach's decision to remove him. Other guys yesterday, like Packers LT Chad Clifton or Steelers C Maurkice Pouncey also left the game early, but you don't see any criticism of them for "quitting on the team".

Another thing you have to remember about him, is that he's missed one game in his whole career for a concussion. The guy played a whole season with undiagnosed diabetes, and though it's regulated now, it's still something he has to deal with. He doesn't have the luxury of getting a cortisone shot in his knee to play through the pain...Cortisone shots tend to drive a diabetics blood sugar through the roof.

I've heard people bad mouthing him for "not helping on the sidelines", when QB Caleb Hanie said he was helping him and he had an earpiece in. If you go by the quick shots of the sideline Fox shows you, it's easy to paint him in a bad light.

I'm not a huge Jay Cutler fan, but reading this article did a lot to help paint a more accurate picture of who he actually is.

Let’s hear it for Jay Cutler | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/14/lets-hear-it-for-jay-cutler/)

matthewschiefs
01-24-2011, 03:00 PM
I would much rather have Cassel then Cuttler. I think that Cassel is just a better leader then Cuttler.

If the reports are true about the torn MCL I can't blame Cuttler at all for not playing. I have had a torn MCL and I couldn't take 3 steps. It's hard to no just how much pain he was in.

4everchiefsfan25
01-24-2011, 03:35 PM
I would much rather have Cassel as my leader than Cutler. I havn't liked Cutler way before Sundays game, he is very immature he thinks he is better than everybody else and it seems like he just doesn't care. He had a meeting with John Elway back when he was in Denver and they went out to eat and Cutler never looked John in the eye he just kept his eyes on the TV not paying attention to Elway. I dont know about you but if a HOF is trying to give me pointers and I am a young dude in the NFL you bet I would be listening.
On that note I still have to defend Cutler for Sunday. He didn't tear his MCL but the report now is that he sprained it, even though it was only sprained I still couldn't imagine trying to plant and scramble on a sprained MCL. The one thing that I could complain about what Cutler did on Sunday was that he wouldnt help his 3rd string QB look at defensive photos and try and help him out so it would have given the team a little bit more of a chance, which shows that he is still immature.

Jrudi
01-24-2011, 04:01 PM
I hate to defend Cutler, but the guy was hurt. I think the way the media portrays him makes it seem like he quit on his team. Listen, if the guy is hurt and can't play, he can't play. It was the coach's decision to remove him. Other guys yesterday, like Packers LT Chad Clifton or Steelers C Maurkice Pouncey also left the game early, but you don't see any criticism of them for "quitting on the team".

Another thing you have to remember about him, is that he's missed one game in his whole career for a concussion. The guy played a whole season with undiagnosed diabetes, and though it's regulated now, it's still something he has to deal with. He doesn't have the luxury of getting a cortisone shot in his knee to play through the pain...Cortisone shots tend to drive a diabetics blood sugar through the roof.

I've heard people bad mouthing him for "not helping on the sidelines", when QB Caleb Hanie said he was helping him and he had an earpiece in. If you go by the quick shots of the sideline Fox shows you, it's easy to paint him in a bad light.

I'm not a huge Jay Cutler fan, but reading this article did a lot to help paint a more accurate picture of who he actually is.

Letís hear it for Jay Cutler | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/14/lets-hear-it-for-jay-cutler/)

I'm not bashing Cutler for being hurt, I even stated that in the opening remarks of this forum. If he was seriously hurt then I understand not being able to play, but I am criticizing the Leadership and his demeanor. (Just for the record, I'm pretty sure Clifton went back out and finished the game.)

After Cutler was on the sideline, it was like he didn't even care, and wasn't paying attention. I've heard he was helping Hannee and I've heard he wasn't; regardless he could have at least had a headset on like most backups do, or even act excited, or get his team pumped up from the sidelines. Just because he is out of the game doesn't mean he can't be a leader.

I bet that if Cassel came out of a game with an injury, he would do all he could to still help his team win. His demeanor would be much more positive and up-beat than that of Cutlers.

I am not questioning his toughness but his Leadership, and stating that for everyone that still complains about Cassel, we could have it worse and have Cutler so count your blessings.

Ryfo18
01-24-2011, 04:35 PM
I'm not bashing Cutler for being hurt, I even stated that in the opening remarks of this forum. If he was seriously hurt then I understand not being able to play, but I am criticizing the Leadership and his demeanor. (Just for the record, I'm pretty sure Clifton went back out and finished the game.)

After Cutler was on the sideline, it was like he didn't even care, and wasn't paying attention. I've heard he was helping Hannee and I've heard he wasn't; regardless he could have at least had a headset on like most backups do, or even act excited, or get his team pumped up from the sidelines. Just because he is out of the game doesn't mean he can't be a leader.

I bet that if Cassel came out of a game with an injury, he would do all he could to still help his team win. His demeanor would be much more positive and up-beat than that of Cutlers.

I am not questioning his toughness but his Leadership, and stating that for everyone that still complains about Cassel, we could have it worse and have Cutler so count your blessings.

I totally agree with that.

Coach
01-24-2011, 04:36 PM
I'd take Cassel's toughness and Jay's arm. Throw in Peyton's brain, and Brady's girlfriend.

In the mean time, I'll stick with the toughest qb in football, Matt Cassel.

Jrudi
01-24-2011, 05:23 PM
I'd take Cassel's toughness and Jay's arm. Throw in Peyton's brain, and Brady's girlfriend.

In the mean time, I'll stick with the toughest qb in football, Matt Cassel.


Haha that's hilarious.

Nice post!

Jrudi
01-24-2011, 05:27 PM
Speaking of being a tough player.

Just read this on KC Star's website. Wow!

Read it here (http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1652)

honda522
01-24-2011, 08:50 PM
Cutler is still immature.

Boxermm187
01-24-2011, 09:30 PM
Speaking of being a tough player.

Just read this on KC Star's website. Wow!

Read it here (http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1652)
tough guy there...now lets get the contract signed!!!!!

tornadospotter
01-24-2011, 11:53 PM
Cutler is still immature.
Now that Cutler is not a donk, I would not call him immature, challenged is what I would say, about this NFL Quarter Back. He is an NFL QB that deals with a life long degenerating decease, but plays at an NFL level. His team made it to the championship game of NFC. I have to respect him for that. Helps that he is a bear and not a donk, but still I respect that he can play at the elite Football level, the NFL..

Jrudi
01-25-2011, 11:24 AM
Now that Cutler is not a donk, I would not call him immature, challenged is what I would say, about this NFL Quarter Back. He is an NFL QB that deals with a life long degenerating decease, but plays at an NFL level. His team made it to the championship game of NFC. I have to respect him for that. Helps that he is a bear and not a donk, but still I respect that he can play at the elite Football level, the NFL..

First off, if we were in the NFC and had a 1st round bye and played the Seahawks at home we would have been in the NFC Championship game as well. If you remember we beat the Seahawks by like 20pts in their house.

2nd off, yes at time's he can play like an elite QB, but my knock on him is he attitude when he doesn't, because there are a lot of times, he plays horrible, and his attitude matches it. would still rather have Cassel

4everchiefsfan25
01-25-2011, 03:47 PM
Now that Cutler is not a donk, I would not call him immature, challenged is what I would say, about this NFL Quarter Back. He is an NFL QB that deals with a life long degenerating decease, but plays at an NFL level. His team made it to the championship game of NFC. I have to respect him for that. Helps that he is a bear and not a donk, but still I respect that he can play at the elite Football level, the NFL..
I wouldnt say Cutler plays at a elite football level. Cutler reminds me of Rex Grossman they are both just so up and down. When they throw the ball everybody holds their breath because you dont know if they are going to throw a nice pass or throw a INT. Its always hit or miss with them there is no in between.

Rex actually took the Bears to the Super Bowl but I still dont think Rex is a player that can play on an elite level, just like I dont think Cutler plays at an elite level. I think you have to be more consistant and stop making such poor decisions to become an elite football player.

tornadospotter
02-01-2011, 02:42 AM
I wouldnt say Cutler plays at a elite football level. Cutler reminds me of Rex Grossman they are both just so up and down. When they throw the ball everybody holds their breath because you dont know if they are going to throw a nice pass or throw a INT. Its always hit or miss with them there is no in between.

Rex actually took the Bears to the Super Bowl but I still dont think Rex is a player that can play on an elite level, just like I dont think Cutler plays at an elite level. I think you have to be more consistant and stop making such poor decisions to become an elite football player.
Is the NFL the top of Professional Level of American Football? If so any player that is playing for a NFL Team is at the elite level of the sport. I did not say anything about being elite at there position in the the NFL. Just saying, all NFL players on a NFL Team, are elite players, of the game of United States of America version of football.

chief31
02-01-2011, 05:11 PM
I wouldnt say Cutler plays at a elite football level. Cutler reminds me of Rex Grossman they are both just so up and down. When they throw the ball everybody holds their breath because you dont know if they are going to throw a nice pass or throw a INT. Its always hit or miss with them there is no in between.

Rex actually took the Bears to the Super Bowl but I still dont think Rex is a player that can play on an elite level, just like I dont think Cutler plays at an elite level. I think you have to be more consistant and stop making such poor decisions to become an elite football player.

I don't trust The Bears with QBs.

They have called some QBs 'crap', that I have seen play very well, once they got out of Chicago. Orton and Harbaugh are the two that pop to mind.

After witnessing their complete lack of confidence in Orton, and what he did this season, I think there is a problem with The Bears, more than there is with the guys they put at QB.

4everchiefsfan25
02-02-2011, 11:04 AM
I don't trust The Bears with QBs.

They have called some QBs 'crap', that I have seen play very well, once they got out of Chicago. Orton and Harbaugh are the two that pop to mind.

After witnessing their complete lack of confidence in Orton, and what he did this season, I think there is a problem with The Bears, more than there is with the guys they put at QB.

I think its their system more than anything. Orton was very good last year with the Denver offensive system, but Cutler also didn't really impress me while he was with Denver

chief31
02-02-2011, 12:36 PM
I think its their system more than anything. Orton was very good last year with the Denver offensive system, but Cutler also didn't really impress me while he was with Denver

Me either. But then, it was a completely different offense, and he is still quite young.

Not that I believe he is a good QB, just that I don't know that can't be.

He should have kept his mouth shut about the Cassel situation, and stayed with McDaniels' Broncos. May have helped him alot.

4everchiefsfan25
02-02-2011, 12:38 PM
Me either. But then, it was a completely different offense, and he is still quite young.

Not that I believe he is a good QB, just that I don't know that can't be.

He should have kept his mouth shut about the Cassel situation, and stayed with McDaniels' Broncos. May have helped him alot.
Agreed, I'm still not sold on McDaniels as a head coach but McDaniels as a OC thats a different story, and i think Sam Bradford is going to really benefit from McDaniels going to the Rams.

Bike
02-06-2011, 07:13 PM
At least Cassel isn't Cutler
But is he Aaron Rogers?

4everchiefsfan25
02-07-2011, 11:02 AM
At least Cassel isn't Cutler
But is he Aaron Rogers?
Not even close IMO