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Connie Jo
02-23-2011, 10:08 PM
In late 2003 I bought my very first in life PC. I'd never been on PC before that. I taught myself to use it, at times it was frustrating, but overall my PC became my friend. It was a blessing in so many ways, the most important being the many life lasting genuine friendships I've made through my PC. Living islolated in the remote rural country, often imprisoned in my former home...my PC was my only source of communicating with the outside world, sometimes for weeks at a time.

Last night I went to bed, shut off my now 8 yr old PC as always. Today when I turned it on it wouldn't work. I had a PC tech person come to my house to check it out...they diagnosed it as being dead, motor burned on the hard drive they said. Heck, no signs of trouble last night, but they told me a hard drive is like a lite bulb, eventually they burn out, never know when it will happen.

A friend is letting me use their old laptop until I get a new CPU, gonna shop around tomorrow I guess for a new desktop. I hadn't backed up data for a while, foolishly...so I lost many priceless photos & graphics collected in the last yr or so. They tried, nothing can be retrieved from the hard drive...it's lost forever. :(

N TX Dave
02-24-2011, 01:14 AM
If you want to pay there are companies that can retrive the info for you as long as a) the drive did not crash that is the heads land on the platters or b) the hardware did not write grabage when gong bad. But from reading your descreption it sounds like neither of those happened - you turned it off when it was working and it would not spin up when you powered it on.
These companies will take the platers out or will replace the drive board and read as much or as little as you want now they are not cheap but if you have enough photos that are priceless to you that is your call. Just search on "disk data recovery" and you will see a lot of them. I had to use one about 3-4 years ago after I had a disk go bellyup at work with a 1000+ member database on our server and it seems like it was about $150-200. Good luck if I was closer I have an old (about 3-4 years a P4 3.2 GHz) computer I would give you just because of what you do for all of us.

tornadospotter
02-24-2011, 01:24 AM
Data can be recovered. When I lost my hard drive it was recovered. Have it check out, it could be the power source, but I am no puter knower, just a redneck chief.

Connie Jo
02-24-2011, 02:00 PM
The PC tech who came to my house said the motor on the hard drive was totally burned, that nothing could be retrieved. She took it out of the CPU & back to the company she works for, called me later that day with the bad news. She gave me her company business card, it has these degrees behind her name...A+ N+ MCP MCSA whatever those stand for I dunno, haha, but assume she knew what she was doing.

When she turned my PC on she went to Dells inner diagnostics in safe mode, 1 DG DRIVE, it came up as Fail code 7. She said my hard drive was dead, nothing she could do. :(

Connie Jo
02-24-2011, 02:47 PM
If you want to pay there are companies that can retrive the info for you as long as a) the drive did not crash that is the heads land on the platters or b) the hardware did not write grabage when gong bad. But from reading your descreption it sounds like neither of those happened - you turned it off when it was working and it would not spin up when you powered it on.
These companies will take the platers out or will replace the drive board and read as much or as little as you want now they are not cheap but if you have enough photos that are priceless to you that is your call. Just search on "disk data recovery" and you will see a lot of them. I had to use one about 3-4 years ago after I had a disk go bellyup at work with a 1000+ member database on our server and it seems like it was about $150-200. Good luck if I was closer I have an old (about 3-4 years a P4 3.2 GHz) computer I would give you just because of what you do for all of us.


Oh, thank you Dave, you're a heart of genuine gold, I appreciate it. I'm hoping my special needs trustee will approve the withdrawal request for me to buy a new CPU. My monitor & printer don't need replaced.

Here's some SS facts many Americans may not be aware of: When I sold my house I had a small amount left over after buying & paying cash for this house, paying off my truck, paying 1 yr in advance for homeowners & truck ins., etc.. Well, last October after going thru all of Social Securities medical & Dr.'s testing, I was approved for disability, mostly due to my 75% hearing loss & arthritis in my hands & knees. Problem is with Gov cutbacks & changes in SS... it's an income restricted disability until I turn 65, which is 10 1/2 yrs away more or less, then it converts to traditional SS, much fewer retrictions on allowed income eligibiliy.

In order for me to remain income eligible with the Federal Gov until I turn 65, & continue to recieve my current monthly SS disability check & medicare/medicaid healthcare...I can't have any 'extra' cash laying around. SS however, does allow me to deposit any money I may recieve over the amount of my SS disability monthly income, into a 'special needs trust'. The amount I had left from selling my former house was deposited into that trust.

Also, in December a judge issued a court order forcing my x husband to deposit $600 monthly into my special needs trust fund for 10 yrs.. It's to pay me back money & investments he dishonestly took from me the last 2 yrs of marriage & the yr following while waiting for the divorce to be finalized, 2007-2010. The judge & state atty's involved wanted to award me all the equity in the house as compenation. Well, my x husband pleaded with me via emails & thru our daughter, asking me to let him pay $600 monthly instead for 10 yrs...saying he needed his share of the house equity to rebuild his life & small business his self destruction over 3 yrs all but destroyed.

Judge respected my request to issue a court order allowing my x to make me monthly payments, let him keep his share of house equity when we sold it the end of December. Judge told him if he doesn't obey, he'll risk going to jail (again). So far he's obeyed, only time will tell for how long. Anyway, so, I have funds to buy a new CPU, but my 'special needs' trustee must approve any withdrawals from my trust as being necessary to the quality of my life based upon SS laws/guidelines. I called my trustee yesterday, but so far haven't heard back from her if a new CPU is considered 'necessary'. :/

Connie Jo
02-24-2011, 03:06 PM
Sorry for any typo's y'all, haha. I'm not use to the keyboard of this laptop my friend kindly offered to loan me, it's so small, haha.

matthewschiefs
02-24-2011, 04:43 PM
In late 2003 I bought my very first in life PC. I'd never been on PC before that. I taught myself to use it, at times it was frustrating, but overall my PC became my friend. It was a blessing in so many ways, the most important being the many life lasting genuine friendships I've made through my PC. Living islolated in the remote rural country, often imprisoned in my former home...my PC was my only source of communicating with the outside world, sometimes for weeks at a time.

Last night I went to bed, shut off my now 8 yr old PC as always. Today when I turned it on it wouldn't work. I had a PC tech person come to my house to check it out...they diagnosed it as being dead, motor burned on the hard drive they said. Heck, no signs of trouble last night, but they told me a hard drive is like a lite bulb, eventually they burn out, never know when it will happen.

A friend is letting me use their old laptop until I get a new CPU, gonna shop around tomorrow I guess for a new desktop. I hadn't backed up data for a while, foolishly...so I lost many priceless photos & graphics collected in the last yr or so. They tried, nothing can be retrieved from the hard drive...it's lost forever. :(
Sorry to here about the computer issue.

Went through a huge computer issue last month myself. I found a really good 3.2 ghz computer off ebay for $109.99 total and I love this computer more then my last one. I would say try out ebay and stuff you can find some cheaper computers and better deals then alot of stores would give you.

N TX Dave
02-24-2011, 05:23 PM
The PC tech who came to my house said the motor on the hard drive was totally burned, that nothing could be retrieved. She took it out of the CPU & back to the company she works for, called me later that day with the bad news. She gave me her company business card, it has these degrees behind her name...A+ N+ MCP MCSA whatever those stand for I dunno, haha, but assume she knew what she was doing.

When she turned my PC on she went to Dells inner diagnostics in safe mode, 1 DG DRIVE, it came up as Fail code 7. She said my hard drive was dead, nothing she could do. :(

The data recovery companies can get the data off even with the motor bad. It takes expensive special equipment that no computer repair company has on hand I have worked for a few and my son in law who lives with me has worked for computer geeks and he said they did not even have it, so I hope you got your disk back data can be gotten off with the correct equipment however it may costs $150.

Connie Jo
02-24-2011, 06:16 PM
Dave, I'm suppose to pick up my hard drive disc from the company. When she called me with the bad news, I told her I wanted back, sentimental reasons I guess. She told me then if I wanted to spend between $700-$1,000 she could send it off to some lab, try to let them retrieve info, but said there was no guarantee, & I'd be charged the fee whether they were successful or not. I told her no of course, but did want to pick up my hard drive.

In the meantime, my trustee called a bit ago, & she did approve my request to use trust funds for a new CPU. I'm gonna email her the info needed to order it thru Dell. My PC was a Dell, & I'm familiar with Dell as such, plus it lasted 8 yrs with few issues, so am comfortable going with Dell again. Hopefully the new one will last 8 yrs, haha. Likely take a week or so for it to arrive, but I can use Brandons old laptop till then. :)

Connie Jo
02-24-2011, 06:21 PM
Sorry to here about the computer issue.

Went through a huge computer issue last month myself. I found a really good 3.2 ghz computer off ebay for $109.99 total and I love this computer more then my last one. I would say try out ebay and stuff you can find some cheaper computers and better deals then alot of stores would give you.

I know of others too who have had success off Ebay buying PC's, electronics, but some have had horrors too. I'd be leary mostly of buying a PC on Ebay because I'd have to cover shipping charges if it needed returned, etc.. Also, battling some sellers to replace it honorably. Anyway, looks like I'll be ordering one from Dell tomorrow...they have some good deals right now. :)

Thanks Matthew, do appreciate your suggestion though. :)

Hayvern
02-24-2011, 09:00 PM
Dave, I'm suppose to pick up my hard drive disc from the company. When she called me with the bad news, I told her I wanted back, sentimental reasons I guess. She told me then if I wanted to spend between $700-$1,000 she could send it off to some lab, try to let them retrieve info, but said there was no guarantee, & I'd be charged the fee whether they were successful or not. I told her no of course, but did want to pick up my hard drive.

In the meantime, my trustee called a bit ago, & she did approve my request to use trust funds for a new CPU. I'm gonna email her the info needed to order it thru Dell. My PC was a Dell, & I'm familiar with Dell as such, plus it lasted 8 yrs with few issues, so am comfortable going with Dell again. Hopefully the new one will last 8 yrs, haha. Likely take a week or so for it to arrive, but I can use Brandons old laptop till then. :)

Well you got 8 years out of that computer, that is more than I ever get out of mine, I replace them every couple of years.

It does cost a lot of money to recover data from a fried drive. They usually have good success, however it is not cheap. The work to do this is painfully tedious and hard to do.

Likely, you can pick up another hard drive for around $50.00, that old of a computer, you may have some issues with size as some of the older ones only recognized a certain size of drive.

With that old of a computer though, I just don't see it being worth it. You can buy a much better machine for less than $400 these days. I would try www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com) and see what I could find.

For the future though, buy yourself an external harddrive system that has two hard drives in it that are mirrored. If you do this, and put all your data on that system, then you at least not lose anything important if one of those drives were to die on you. If both drives die, then that is another problem of course.

tornadospotter
02-24-2011, 09:07 PM
Well you got 8 years out of that computer, that is more than I ever get out of mine, I replace them every couple of years.

It does cost a lot of money to recover data from a fried drive. They usually have good success, however it is not cheap. The work to do this is painfully tedious and hard to do.

Likely, you can pick up another hard drive for around $50.00, that old of a computer, you may have some issues with size as some of the older ones only recognized a certain size of drive.

With that old of a computer though, I just don't see it being worth it. You can buy a much better machine for less than $400 these days. I would try www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com) and see what I could find.

For the future though, buy yourself an external harddrive system that has two hard drives in it that are mirrored. If you do this, and put all your data on that system, then you at least not lose anything important if one of those drives were to die on you. If both drives die, then that is another problem of course.
More info on this please. This might be something I want to look into.

Chiefster
02-24-2011, 10:53 PM
Unfortunately, Connie, the PC Tech is right: all hard drives have a certain limited life span; the fact that you got eight years out of your PC is actually a bit remarkable. The bad thing is that you have lost all that data you had stored on it. Sorry you are experiencing this kind of hardship. Take it from someone who has been there and done that: I know how you're feeling.

matthewschiefs
02-25-2011, 01:51 PM
I know of others too who have had success off Ebay buying PC's, electronics, but some have had horrors too. I'd be leary mostly of buying a PC on Ebay because I'd have to cover shipping charges if it needed returned, etc.. Also, battling some sellers to replace it honorably. Anyway, looks like I'll be ordering one from Dell tomorrow...they have some good deals right now. :)

Thanks Matthew, do appreciate your suggestion though. :)

Yeah I have been ripped off through ebay before. I went to the local computer shop and the same computer there was about 350$ so I took the gamble and it just turned out well for me this time but I can understand not wanting to spend a lot of money on something online. I don't do it often but I was in a gambleing mood I guess since I have not been able to put all my arrowhead cash on the chiefs in a while:lol:

honda522
02-25-2011, 07:01 PM
Computers don't last forever. I have gone thru 3 laptops in 6 years..they were cheaper ones, but I found HP makes the best.

AussieChiefsFan
02-25-2011, 08:41 PM
Computers don't last forever. I have gone thru 3 laptops in 6 years..they were cheaper ones, but I found HP makes the best.
I just got windows 7 but a part in the computer is overheating and causing it to freeze. We diagnosed the problem this morning (hopefully thats the problem otherwise we still dont know what it is) and my dads going to try and fix it ASAP.

So, yeah, sometimes computers last for a long time and sometimes they dont.

Hayvern
02-26-2011, 02:14 AM
More info on this please. This might be something I want to look into.

My pleasure.

http://go.iomega.com/en-us/products/network-storage-desktop/storcenter-network-storage-solution/network-hard-drive-ix2-200/?partner=4760#overviewItem_tab

This is the system that I have. This system comes with two internal hard drives and it attaches to your local network of computers. I have a number of computers in the house, 7 to be honest including my work laptop, and all of these computers have access to this device.

Additionally, my DirectTV DVR and my Blueray player in the family room have access to this device as well.

The device has two hard drives in it. You have two options available to you for how you configure this, but I am only going to talk about mirroring.

You set this device up so that both hard drives store the same data on them, essentially each drive mirrors the other. If either of the drives fail, then you have some warning to go get another device and get the data off of the remaining drive. These devices are not supposed to be serviceable by the end user, but I am sure one could replace a failed drive, I would be concerned with it's ability to come back online.

So this gives you a little added protection against hard drive failure. I have been going through all of my old videos now of my kids, digitizing them and putting them all on this drive. I have 1 terrbyte of space on mine and I am at 750 gig of space used right now.

The nice thing about this is that every other machine in the house can access the data on this device. Additionally, it has some features where you can plug in your printer and have your printer networked to all of those devices as well. If you are really adventurous, it even has the ability to open the drive up on the Internet allowing you to reach the files from anywhere, password required of course. I do not use this feature.

As a sidebar, I think it is also important to point out that you can do the same configuration on most newer desktop machines as well. Most of the newer desktops, at least in the last couple of years, will allow you to carry 4 - 6 serial ATA (SATA) drives on-board. Once you plug them in, you can configure them to mirror as well and you get the same protection right on your desktop computer.

Drives are relatively inexpensive these days, so it never hurts to configure this if you have the ability, time, and money.

Word to the wise though, never rely on one single device even if you get something like this. You should always have a second copy just in case. I have the contents of this drive backing up to my desktop machine as well. I do not have my desktop mirrored like this as I am not worried about losing the drive as long as the Storecenter device is still working.

A lot of companies make these and they are well worth the investment I think.

ratty9
02-27-2011, 03:27 PM
all data can be recovered loads of places do it

Connie Jo
03-13-2011, 01:09 AM
Well, my new PC from Dell arrived last week, but I'm still using my friends old laptop. I've not had time to spend setting it all up, am also a bit intimidated to try doing it myself. My sons friend Dave, helped set up my original pc 8 yrs. ago, so I've not done it before. If all the programs & OS were the same as what I had before, Windows XP...I'd feel more comfortable setting it up, but it's Windows 7, and not familiar with it or the programs it comes with.

Does Windows 7 have a standard 'Paint' program as XP came with, simply called 'Paint'. Also, does W7 have 'Wordpad'?

stricken721
03-14-2011, 02:31 AM
Well, my new PC from Dell arrived last week, but I'm still using my friends old laptop. I've not had time to spend setting it all up, am also a bit intimidated to try doing it myself. My sons friend Dave, helped set up my original pc 8 yrs. ago, so I've not done it before. If all the programs & OS were the same as what I had before, Windows XP...I'd feel more comfortable setting it up, but it's Windows 7, and not familiar with it or the programs it comes with.

Does Windows 7 have a standard 'Paint' program as XP came with, simply called 'Paint'. Also, does W7 have 'Wordpad'?

Yes and Yes!

Chiefster
03-15-2011, 01:52 AM
The paint program with "7" is awesome! The feature I like best is that it will now allow you to re-size a pic according to the number of pixels.

Connie Jo
03-15-2011, 04:05 AM
Oh good! Paint and Wordpad I use often! I write on Wordpad, and use Paint for many tasks. Someone told me W7 won't have Jasc Photo as a standard like XP did, I'm gonna miss it, as it is what I used to resize pics, add text to photo's, other stuff. I'm hoping W7 is compatible with Microsoft Office Publisher, so I can install it on my new PC, as I have it on hard disc..

I also bought Corel Paint Shop Pro X in late 2008, paid around $200 for it, but downloaded the software online, no hard disc.. I was told I can contact Corel to ask if they'll let me download it again to a new PC, but if I remember right...I think you had to pay extra at the time for the right to replace it if lost, which I doubt I did wanting to save money likely.

Anyway, I've still not set up my new PC, rather continue using my friend Brandon's old laptop, which limits me from doing many things, so I need to get mine set up.

kcvet
03-20-2011, 08:24 PM
I keep everything backed up on CDRW's. including the entire OS on a DVD. when my HD died i just beat its brains out with a hammer. boy that felt good. anywho I replaced the HD myself and and burned the OS from the DVD. I got XP home and still love it. its a 7 year old HP

tornadospotter
03-24-2011, 11:00 PM
My pleasure.

http://go.iomega.com/en-us/products/network-storage-desktop/storcenter-network-storage-solution/network-hard-drive-ix2-200/?partner=4760#overviewItem_tab

This is the system that I have. This system comes with two internal hard drives and it attaches to your local network of computers. I have a number of computers in the house, 7 to be honest including my work laptop, and all of these computers have access to this device.

Additionally, my DirectTV DVR and my Blueray player in the family room have access to this device as well.

The device has two hard drives in it. You have two options available to you for how you configure this, but I am only going to talk about mirroring.

You set this device up so that both hard drives store the same data on them, essentially each drive mirrors the other. If either of the drives fail, then you have some warning to go get another device and get the data off of the remaining drive. These devices are not supposed to be serviceable by the end user, but I am sure one could replace a failed drive, I would be concerned with it's ability to come back online.

So this gives you a little added protection against hard drive failure. I have been going through all of my old videos now of my kids, digitizing them and putting them all on this drive. I have 1 terrbyte of space on mine and I am at 750 gig of space used right now.

The nice thing about this is that every other machine in the house can access the data on this device. Additionally, it has some features where you can plug in your printer and have your printer networked to all of those devices as well. If you are really adventurous, it even has the ability to open the drive up on the Internet allowing you to reach the files from anywhere, password required of course. I do not use this feature.

As a sidebar, I think it is also important to point out that you can do the same configuration on most newer desktop machines as well. Most of the newer desktops, at least in the last couple of years, will allow you to carry 4 - 6 serial ATA (SATA) drives on-board. Once you plug them in, you can configure them to mirror as well and you get the same protection right on your desktop computer.

Drives are relatively inexpensive these days, so it never hurts to configure this if you have the ability, time, and money.

Word to the wise though, never rely on one single device even if you get something like this. You should always have a second copy just in case. I have the contents of this drive backing up to my desktop machine as well. I do not have my desktop mirrored like this as I am not worried about losing the drive as long as the Storecenter device is still working.

A lot of companies make these and they are well worth the investment I think.
Well I did not go out and buy this, sound out of my price range, and I only have one puter to back up. I did find a Seagate Free Agent Desk External Drive, 1.5 TB/TO, for 60 bucks. Moved all my files that I have on it, deleted them from my C drive, did a registry clean up. All my pictures and other files are saved, and my CP is running much better. Thank you all for info, to this puter redneck from nebraskie!:yahoo::yahoo:

Hayvern
03-25-2011, 04:00 PM
Well I did not go out and buy this, sound out of my price range, and I only have one puter to back up. I did find a Seagate Free Agent Desk External Drive, 1.5 TB/TO, for 60 bucks. Moved all my files that I have on it, deleted them from my C drive, did a registry clean up. All my pictures and other files are saved, and my CP is running much better. Thank you all for info, to this puter redneck from nebraskie!:yahoo::yahoo:

Put those files back on your C: drive and have that external drive only be a backup of those files. You never want your files in one location only, especially if that one location is a drive that is easy to pick up and walk away with.

My experience with external drives have not been so good overall and I would never solely rely on one with a single hard drive to be the primary store for my important documents.

tornadospotter
03-25-2011, 08:33 PM
Put those files back on your C: drive and have that external drive only be a backup of those files. You never want your files in one location only, especially if that one location is a drive that is easy to pick up and walk away with.

My experience with external drives have not been so good overall and I would never solely rely on one with a single hard drive to be the primary store for my important documents.
They are backed up on drive E.