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jap1
04-28-2011, 11:11 PM
Everyone we were interested in is still there. I wonder who it will be!

josh1971
04-28-2011, 11:14 PM
And I wonder how long it will take the seething rage to burst forth.... :D

jap1
04-28-2011, 11:14 PM
Kinda hoping we trade down a little, there are plenty of people we could use who will be there in 5-10 picks.

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:15 PM
akeem ayers here we go

matthewschiefs
04-28-2011, 11:16 PM
Here We Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spiman
04-28-2011, 11:16 PM
Mmmmmmmmeeeeee...

matthewschiefs
04-28-2011, 11:17 PM
Traded out of the 1st round????????

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:17 PM
traded the pick

jap1
04-28-2011, 11:17 PM
Trade!! Yes!!!

spiman
04-28-2011, 11:17 PM
Good Move Chiefs Trade What we get?

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:18 PM
Traded out of the 1st round????????



no we get clev 27th

buffman316
04-28-2011, 11:18 PM
trade to browns---excellent move!

buffman316
04-28-2011, 11:19 PM
we could have used that nose tackle though lol

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:19 PM
philly might take ayers,ugg,i hope not

matthewschiefs
04-28-2011, 11:20 PM
no we get clev 27th

Ya saw cleveland had the 27th about 2 secounds after i posted that lol

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:21 PM
hopefully we got another pick with the trade besides the 27th

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:22 PM
philly might take d-back also

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:23 PM
costanza probably going next to colts

spiman
04-28-2011, 11:25 PM
Glad I am using DVR This draft seems wrong on a thurs night..I am on west coast Time .I feel for you guys out there..

matthewschiefs
04-28-2011, 11:29 PM
hopefully we got another pick with the trade besides the 27th

got a 3rd rounder as well

chiefnut
04-28-2011, 11:32 PM
we could have used that nose tackle though lol

when i saw the trade i figured, good, we're dropping back to get phil taylor and an extra pick.....i guess i figured wrong!!!

DMN
04-28-2011, 11:36 PM
we swapped first to 27th overall and got their 3rd... 70th overall. dropped back 6 spots for a early third round pick. great move.

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:38 PM
ingram should go here to the saints

slc chief
04-28-2011, 11:38 PM
nice move 2 3rd rounders now

hometeam
04-28-2011, 11:39 PM
let ayers last until 27!

70 chiefsfan70
04-28-2011, 11:40 PM
Its got be for Ayers, I hope.......... or who is the best WR. left, maybe we go that route.

matthewschiefs
04-28-2011, 11:47 PM
according to twitter we are trying to move back again

jap1
04-28-2011, 11:48 PM
Almost all the OTs and OLBs I wanted are still available. Maybe we can trade down again! HAHA!

kcnation
04-28-2011, 11:48 PM
just said that on espn,wow

70 chiefsfan70
04-28-2011, 11:51 PM
I wold not mind another trade, if we pick up a couple of seconds, lots of holes could be filled.

buffman316
04-28-2011, 11:54 PM
Maybe it is Akeen time in KC Akeem Ayers, UCLA, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1244512)

jap1
04-29-2011, 12:04 AM
WR. Baldwin.

70 chiefsfan70
04-29-2011, 12:05 AM
Baldwin! not my pick, but I love it!

matthewschiefs
04-29-2011, 12:07 AM
Don't love it but don't hate it

kcnation
04-29-2011, 12:08 AM
wow,i can't believe that

loyalchief91
04-29-2011, 12:08 AM
I like the pick.. we needed another WR bad

jap1
04-29-2011, 12:09 AM
I thought he would have been there in the 2nd, but I still like the pick. Its going to let us keep defenses honest and not put 8 men in the box to stop JC.

chiefnut
04-29-2011, 12:09 AM
jon baldwin wr ???

kcnation
04-29-2011, 12:09 AM
Don't love it but don't hate it





i don't like it at all

loyalchief91
04-29-2011, 12:10 AM
i don't like it at all
why not ?

buffman316
04-29-2011, 12:11 AM
After that highlight package I love it

rodu
04-29-2011, 12:17 AM
now we have two big wideouts

Drunker Hillbilly
04-29-2011, 12:21 AM
Good pick for this team. Needed someone opposite Bowe. It will only make him better and keep teams guessing. I've always said we needed more WR's and this kid seems to have some talent.

jap1
04-29-2011, 12:32 AM
Haley now has his Fitzgerald and Boldin. Im hoping for an OL in the 2nd round now to help keep Cassel standing long enough to get the ball to these two guys.

Bowe, Baldwin at WR
Moeaki at TE
JC in the backfield
D. Mccluster in the slot

Our offense has weapons everywhere now. We just need to make sure we can block now!

OPLookn
04-29-2011, 12:45 AM
I'm almost hoping we trade up and get akeem ayers still. I'd really like to see him in red and gold!

Chiefs fanatic
04-29-2011, 12:55 AM
I like the pick but I don't like that we seemed to reach a little for it.

matthewschiefs
04-29-2011, 12:56 AM
All i am hoping for tomorow is O line and pass rush addressed. If we do that we will be a much better team. The Baldwin pick I am ify on Don't love it but I am eger to see if he can make me get on board with the pick fast.

josh1971
04-29-2011, 01:01 AM
All i am hoping for tomorow is O line and pass rush addressed. If we do that we will be a much better team. The Baldwin pick I am ify on Don't love it but I am eger to see if he can make me get on board with the pick fast.

It's a weird and kinda scary thing, too. Surely Pioli and Haley have GOT TO know that pass rush and O-line are two areas where we could use upgrades and depth.

But if tomorrow and beyond turn into TE, QB, RB, I'll join the red-rage crowd on that. We need a bookend for Hali, and some good blockers for all the shiny toys our offense has.

JB

Coach
04-29-2011, 01:29 AM
Surprising pick in some ways but it definitely addresses an area of need. Our biggest area of need IMO.

figcrostic
04-29-2011, 04:44 PM
It's a weird and kinda scary thing, too. Surely Pioli and Haley have GOT TO know that pass rush and O-line are two areas where we could use upgrades and depth.

But if tomorrow and beyond turn into TE, QB, RB, I'll join the red-rage crowd on that. We need a bookend for Hali, and some good blockers for all the shiny toys our offense has.

JB

Unless the TE is a younger version of Jason Dunn, who is basically just an extra guard protecting your QB.

OPLookn
04-29-2011, 09:17 PM
I have to say I don't like this pick. I'll gladly eat my own words here but there was one WR to go off the board after Julio Jones and when the Chiefs picked in the 2nd. Especially on a guy that can be a boom or a bust. I would have liked to have seen a OLB or OT taken in the 1st.

tornadospotter
04-29-2011, 09:25 PM
Rd 2 Chiefs pick Rodney Hudson OL Florida State.

OPLookn
04-29-2011, 09:26 PM
Sam Acho is still available, hopefully he'll still be there at pick 70

matthewschiefs
04-29-2011, 09:43 PM
Great to see O line help now pass rush and more o line needs to be the foucus

DMN
04-29-2011, 09:59 PM
WOW... Houston at 70. We were thinkin 1rst round and pioli moves back and gets an extra pick in the 3rd and picks him up.

Way impressed so far.... now a NT with 86

GO CHIEFS!!!!!

Boxermm187
04-29-2011, 10:22 PM
YouTube - Justin Houston 2010 Highlights (UGA)
check this video of Houston. Can't wait to see him in a chiefs uniform. this video gets me pumped!!!

chiefnut
04-29-2011, 10:32 PM
the only thing that scares me on houston is what gruden said, 1st round talent who doesn't always give 100% and he was the least impressive player he saw.

chiefnut
04-29-2011, 10:33 PM
so far not bad, but time will tell

buffman316
04-29-2011, 10:34 PM
I love the picks so far. This Houston fellow looks good on film and was impressive in the combine. In KC we are not used to a smart front office making picks so that is why there is some residue of uncertainty, but so far, it looks like two straight years of good. Long way to go...

buffman316
04-29-2011, 10:46 PM
DE Allen Bailey Miami Pick number 86
http://youtu.be/1EK3kx5Y9JE

chiefnut
04-29-2011, 11:02 PM
should be an improvement over jackson. or could be they are going to move dorsey to NT and bailey replaces him at DE

DMN
04-29-2011, 11:07 PM
DE Allen Bailey Miami Pick number 86
http://youtu.be/1EK3kx5Y9JE

I have to say I am very confused by this pick...

I can only think that they want to move dorsey. I have heard coaches go on record saying dorsey is strong enough to play NT. So that is the only thing I can think. They must be trying to produce pressure with the D line.

GarH
04-29-2011, 11:10 PM
My guess is Dorsey to NT.

Coach
04-29-2011, 11:25 PM
Just because we draft someone in the 3rd rd doesn't mean there are any plans for him to take over a starting spot.

DMN
04-29-2011, 11:26 PM
we still have edwards and smith who were both very serviceable. So as much I wanted a vince wilfork... I think it would have been phil taylor. that said Bailey looks like a freak, reminds me of justin tuck.

DMN
04-29-2011, 11:31 PM
Just because we draft someone in the 3rd rd doesn't mean there are any plans for him to take over a starting spot.

That is very true, but I feel like with gales and gilberry we have DE depth. I was thinkin that we would add depth to some weaker and mainly older positions. We have 2 young starting DEs that are eatin up some serious cap.

Coach
04-30-2011, 12:04 AM
That is very true, but I feel like with gales and gilberry we have DE depth. I was thinkin that we would add depth to some weaker and mainly older positions. We have 2 young starting DEs that are eatin up some serious cap.

I'm going to retract my statement. After watching Allen Bailewy's tape, he and Gilberry both look better than Tyson Jackson. And not by a little bit. Allen Bailey looks like he could be the steal of this draft. This is quickly turning into a great draft for the Chiefs.

tornadospotter
04-30-2011, 12:17 AM
http://youtu.be/1EK3kx5Y9JE

http://youtu.be/qQvcXWLQKyk

Xanathol
04-30-2011, 01:27 AM
I'm going to retract my statement. After watching Allen Bailewy's tape, he and Gilberry both look better than Tyson Jackson. And not by a little bit. Allen Bailey looks like he could be the steal of this draft. This is quickly turning into a great draft for the Chiefs.
Gilberry rushes the passer well ( even if it means ignoring his responsibilities ), but only managed 23 tackles in his play time vs Jackson's 31 in 4 less games and his second year. Part of this is because he's not playing 2 gaps like he is expected to and instead likes to shoot gaps. That act gets him some sacks, but makes him a liability for the defensive scheme as a whole. In other words, as a 3-4 DE, Jackson is already better than Gilberry, but fans see the sack total and don't understand the scheme & responsibilities.

Bailey is only 285 and I wonder about his strength in a 5 tech - I think KC tries to stand him up at OLB ( he use to play LB fyi ).

Anyhow, this should be Jackson's year to show what kind of 3-4 DE he's going to be in the NFL. With KC's 3-4, you should see him making tackles ( not sacks so much ), so beyond watching the games, that stat shooting up would be a good indicator of success.

Canada
04-30-2011, 08:41 AM
...and we have a new Allen at DE!! :)

chiefnut
04-30-2011, 10:56 AM
Gilberry rushes the passer well ( even if it means ignoring his responsibilities ), but only managed 23 tackles in his play time vs Jackson's 31 in 4 less games and his second year. Part of this is because he's not playing 2 gaps like he is expected to and instead likes to shoot gaps. That act gets him some sacks, but makes him a liability for the defensive scheme as a whole. In other words, as a 3-4 DE, Jackson is already better than Gilberry, but fans see the sack total and don't understand the scheme & responsibilities.

Bailey is only 285 and I wonder about his strength in a 5 tech - I think KC tries to stand him up at OLB ( he use to play LB fyi ).



Anyhow, this should be Jackson's year to show what kind of 3-4 DE he's going to be in the NFL. With KC's 3-4, you should see him making tackles ( not sacks so much ), so beyond watching the games, that stat shooting up would be a good indicator of success.

excellent analysis, good use of logic and stats.....however gilberry seems to have a higher motor and is more effective on passing downs. tyson is overpaid for his performance and is at this point a "bust". gilberry does need to improve his rush defense but tyson needs to improve both pass and rush. bailey may be for depth or to push tyson to get better or get out, either way is good for the team.

pbatrucker
04-30-2011, 11:09 AM
Got to love the Chiefs picks so far! They have addressed a lot of the team needs. I think they move up in the 4th round to take Powe to address the NT problem.
I think we could see Franklin and Light in free agency. That would make a very good off season.

Coach
04-30-2011, 02:02 PM
They need to go get Stanzi with this pick.

Coach
04-30-2011, 02:06 PM
They need to go get Stanzi with this pick.
Jalil Brown. Let's hope ther is a serviceable backup QB when we pick at the top of the 5th.

figcrostic
04-30-2011, 02:07 PM
Jalil Brown. Let's hope ther is a serviceable backup QB when we pick at the top of the 5th.

Jalil looks like a backup CB

DMN
04-30-2011, 02:11 PM
hmmm... I was hoping cannon right there. But 6'1" over 200lbs. they could be thinking safety with this guy.

DMN
04-30-2011, 02:55 PM
there you go coach... got him. Perfect pick there!!!!

slc chief
04-30-2011, 03:41 PM
see ya later brody i love the pick of stanzi

gcsofa
04-30-2011, 04:12 PM
What about Gabe Miller.......kind of interesting, isn't it? I could almost say with his size and speed, possibly they may move him to middle linebacker. Anyone else have any thoughts?

pbatrucker
04-30-2011, 04:32 PM
They must think he's a special teams player. reports are he doesn't have the ability to play OLB and he doesn't have the size to play DE. A curious pick in my opinion.
Where is our NT?

gcsofa
04-30-2011, 04:36 PM
We still need an OT & a NT......Derek Newton & Jerrell Powe are still available, I believe.

figcrostic
04-30-2011, 05:03 PM
They need to go get Stanzi with this pick.

Someone got their Christmas present early this year.

texaschief
04-30-2011, 05:10 PM
I officially LOVED the first two days of this draft!! However, I'm becoming less enthused as the last day goes by. Someone needs to explain to me why we're picking undersized, unathletic OLBs in the 5th round when we've already got plenty of options on the team AND have already added the kid from UGA.

ALSO, FOR THE 3RD STRAIGHT EFFIN YEAR, WE HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION IN A 3-4 DEFENSE!!! WTF!!!!

JERRELL POWE ANYONE???!!!!???!!!???!!!!

gcsofa
04-30-2011, 05:23 PM
I agree.......either Jerrell Powe (Ole Miss) or Ian Williams (Notre Dame)!

figcrostic
04-30-2011, 05:49 PM
I agree.......either Jerrell Powe (Ole Miss) or Ian Williams (Notre Dame)!

Ian Williams is a beast! Hopefully he knee isn't an issue.

gcsofa
04-30-2011, 05:58 PM
We took Jerrell Powe........finally, some BEEF!!!!!!!

figcrostic
04-30-2011, 06:01 PM
Great draft! I'm happy!

gcsofa
04-30-2011, 06:13 PM
Now, we need a Right Tackle.........how about one of the following:
Derek Newton, Arkansas State
Johnny Culbreath, South Carolina State
David Mims, Virgina Union
Willie Smith, East Carolina

Coach
04-30-2011, 06:14 PM
Are you kidding me??? This draft is increbible so far IMO. With the 7th rd'er I hope we take a WR.

jap1
04-30-2011, 06:16 PM
Now, we need a Right Tackle.........how about one of the following:
Derek Newton, Arkansas State
Johnny Culbreath, South Carolina State
David Mims, Virgina Union
Willie Smith, East Carolina

Im good with whoever is the BPA. In the 7th round you cannot expect them to be in the league for more than a couple years, so you should just get the best guy and hope he becomes a good back-up or special teams player. I dont think you can look to fill a need here.

figcrostic
04-30-2011, 06:30 PM
Are you kidding me??? This draft is increbible so far IMO. With the 7th rd'er I hope we take a WR.

Only a fool would say this is a bad draft. I'm very excited. We did about everything I'd hoped we would do.

jap1
04-30-2011, 07:01 PM
Love the draft so far. If half of these guys pan out, we are looking to be very competitive for years to come.

jap1
04-30-2011, 07:04 PM
7th round pick: Fullback Shane Bannon from Yale.

gcsofa
04-30-2011, 07:08 PM
Our short yardage, power back........6'2", 265 lbs

chiefnut
04-30-2011, 07:14 PM
Love the draft so far. If half of these guys pan out, we are looking to be very competitive for years to come.

i agree this can be our best draft ever if the players live up to expectaions, certainly a more complete draft in terms of adressing needs than even last year, but before i reserve my flight to the super bowl i'll wait and see.

chiefnut
04-30-2011, 07:21 PM
here's the skinny on Bannon

Yale fullback Shane Bannon flew well under the radar as a lead blocker in the Ivy League.

However, the 6-foot-1, 270-pounder made an impression at his pro day with a 4.69 in the 40-yard dash.


"The kid is a stud," Joe Linta, Bannon's agent, told the National Football Post. "I had never heard of the kid before a coach at Yale told me about him. He's a good looking kid, catches every pass, light feet and he's blowing up people on the film. He's got some position flexibility, too. He can play fullback or be an in-line tight end."

Bannon registered a 9-3 broad jump, a 29-inch vertical leap, a 4.2 in the 20-yard shuttle, a 7.1 in the three-cone drill and a 12.1 in the 60-yard shuttle.

Last season, Bannon caught a career-high 13 passes for 122 yards and won the Jim Keppel Award as the Yale Offensive Back of the Year.

He played football, track and hockey in high school.

lucky_lefty
04-30-2011, 07:49 PM
Very, VERY solid draft....filled a lot of positions of need...only ???'s I have is will these guys perform...I know a few of them are questionable character guys but they must've done something to impress the regime...can't wait for the season to start

rodu
04-30-2011, 08:19 PM
Bannon played hockey? Already a favorite of mine. Fullback is a funny position, most seem to be undrafted or late rounders it seems

Xanathol
05-01-2011, 04:00 AM
Love the draft!

brdempsey69
05-01-2011, 04:44 AM
Best draft that Pioli has had with the Chiefs thus far. No reaches & great value picks from top to bottom.

70 chiefsfan70
05-01-2011, 10:31 AM
Best draft that Pioli has had with the Chiefs thus far. No reaches & great value picks from top to bottom.



I think Balwin was a bit of a reach, and we bypassed some really good talent to get him, however the back end of that trade makes our management look excellent.

I believe all chiefs fans would have used our first to get both Balwin and Houston.

DC_Chiefsfan
05-01-2011, 10:44 AM
I believe all chiefs fans would have used our first to get both Balwin and Houston.


Great Point!

chiefnut
05-01-2011, 03:01 PM
i personally would not have picked balwin, but after watching film an listening to the "experts" i now think he will be the missing part of our receiver puzzle

DC_Chiefsfan
05-01-2011, 03:18 PM
I love the pick. As long as he turns out to be solid, not all pro or pro bowler, just solid, our offense will be silly. Who do you cover? Charles? McCluster? Moeaki? Bowe? Baldwin? Even Gabe Miller could get goaline TE snaps like Vrable. Man this offense has the ability to be scary!!!

70 chiefsfan70
05-01-2011, 05:09 PM
He will surely give us more optionsand thats a good thing. We were waaaaay to predictable last season.

brdempsey69
05-01-2011, 07:47 PM
I think Balwin was a bit of a reach, and we bypassed some really good talent to get him, however the back end of that trade makes our management look excellent.

I believe all chiefs fans would have used our first to get both Balwin and Houston.

Baldwin was not a reach at #26. If he had played at Stanford last year where they had a good QB, instead of Pitt where they didn't have a good QB, he would have put up much better numbers & more than likely would not have got past the Rams at #14.

Baldwin has as much talent as any player that was available at #26 and was projected by many to go in the late 1st round. Baldwin also has as much talent as either AJ Green or Julio Jones and he's coming to a place where the head coach, Haley, will get the most out of him.

Taking Baldwin at #21 would have been a reach. Trading down to #27 and getting to pick him up at #26 makes him a great value pick.

He's nearly 6-5, 228 lbs, runs a 4.45 40, with flypaper hands & he's going to make a huge impact and force opposing defenses to defend the entire field instead of stacking 8 men in the box.