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SAPHOJUNKIE
05-03-2011, 09:21 PM
This was an EXCELLENT draft. We have three legit first round TALENTS in houston, hudson, and baldwin. They fell for PERCEIVED reasons. Here's the thing...if no one will buy a house because it's pink, the price goes down. If you don't mind a pink house, then you got an excellent value. Everyone will sit around saying, "You shouldn't have bought that house! It's pink!" And then you say, "uh...the foundation is excellent. The location is excellent. I can easily paint it and then I just have a perfect house." That's called value. Buying low. We nailed that.

But forget the fact that we nailed draft value on a number of our picks.

Forget that every one of our picks has terrific upside.

My biggest excitement is the number of potential day one starters from this draft.

Jon Baldwin - WR2
Rodney Hudson - C
Justin Houston - LOLB
Jerrell Powe - NT
Shane Brannon - FB (top of depth chart, though FB might not be an official "starter")

Add to that the contributions to special teams by Miller, Brown, and Bailey.

Also, Stanzi hopefully gives us an upgrade at the backup QB spot.

We are looking at five potential starters on Day 1 from this draft. Three of those players

I know people are saying we reached on Jon Baldwin. They wanted us to take Torrey Smith, the "burner." Guess what? Baldwin is taller, thicker, better leaping, better hands, and only a few HUNDREDTHS of a second slower than everyone's "burner."

Besides, Baldwin had one rough year. That year the entire team fell apart. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. He has no other issues to speak of. He made a comment after a frustrating game. Big deal. The guy isn't a thug. He's not out stealing cars. He made a dumb comment to a dumb "reporter" from NFLdraftscout.com.

Oh man, I'm getting really, really pumped about this team. We are almost to a point where bringing in a few key free agents will really make a difference.

Coach
05-03-2011, 09:42 PM
I will be very interested to see how this draft works out. For the first time in awhile I think the chiefs drafted the way chiefs fans wanted them too.

Looking at the two drafts prior to this one it looks like Pioli drafted in a completely different manner. My guess is that one of two things happened.
1. The lack of free agency led to draft that focused much more on filling positions of need instead of best player available.

OR

2. Pioli has a better idea(same ideas as us) of what the true team needs are since he has been around the team a few years.

Time will tell, but on paper this years draft class makes much more sense than any of the prior Pioli drafts since he joined this franchise.

tornadospotter
05-03-2011, 10:26 PM
This was an EXCELLENT draft. We have three legit first round TALENTS in houston, hudson, and baldwin. They fell for PERCEIVED reasons. Here's the thing...if no one will buy a house because it's pink, the price goes down. If you don't mind a pink house, then you got an excellent value. Everyone will sit around saying, "You shouldn't have bought that house! It's pink!" And then you say, "uh...the foundation is excellent. The location is excellent. I can easily paint it and then I just have a perfect house." That's called value. Buying low. We nailed that.

But forget the fact that we nailed draft value on a number of our picks.

Forget that every one of our picks has terrific upside.

My biggest excitement is the number of potential day one starters from this draft.

Jon Baldwin - WR2
Rodney Hudson - C
Justin Houston - LOLB
Jerrell Powe - NT
Shane Brannon - FB (top of depth chart, though FB might not be an official "starter")

Add to that the contributions to special teams by Miller, Brown, and Bailey.

Also, Stanzi hopefully gives us an upgrade at the backup QB spot.

We are looking at five potential starters on Day 1 from this draft. Three of those players

I know people are saying we reached on Jon Baldwin. They wanted us to take Torrey Smith, the "burner." Guess what? Baldwin is taller, thicker, better leaping, better hands, and only a few HUNDREDTHS of a second slower than everyone's "burner."

Besides, Baldwin had one rough year. That year the entire team fell apart. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. He has no other issues to speak of. He made a comment after a frustrating game. Big deal. The guy isn't a thug. He's not out stealing cars. He made a dumb comment to a dumb "reporter" from NFLdraftscout.com.

Oh man, I'm getting really, really pumped about this team. We are almost to a point where bringing in a few key free agents will really make a difference.


I will be very interested to see how this draft works out. For the first time in awhile I think the chiefs drafted the way chiefs fans wanted them too.

Looking at the two drafts prior to this one it looks like Pioli drafted in a completely different manner. My guess is that one of two things happened.
1. The lack of free agency led to draft that focused much more on filling positions of need instead of best player available.

OR

2. Pioli has a better idea(same ideas as us) of what the true team needs are since he has been around the team a few years.

Time will tell, but on paper this years draft class makes much more sense than any of the prior Pioli drafts since he joined this franchise.
Until other wise proven :smile, I agree with both of you. :punk:
I am liking this draft, I think we got a sleeper or two. I am not concerned about some of the negatives I have heard or read about. We have and have drafted in prior drafts, leaders that can help shape this rookie class.

chiefnut
05-05-2011, 01:03 PM
i'm sure Baldwin & Hudson are expected to start right away, while Houston, Powe, Brannon, and Bailey will be situational players for now as well as special teamers as well as miller , brown and stanzi providing good depth

SAPHOJUNKIE
05-05-2011, 01:28 PM
Powe will rotate in with Edwards to start. Those guys just don't play all the snaps themselves. However, Houston should instantly be challenging Studebaker for that starting spot. And if Studebaker wins it, good for him. I'm trying to not put too much stock in that two interception game of his, but I am always rooting for our young players to boom.

stevefuller
05-06-2011, 12:05 AM
This draft can put us into the elite teams of the NFL
They say you can hit on all your picks i say why not?

I am still just buzzing over the potential of this draft
I would select Baldwin over T Smith 99 times out of a hundred
Hudson will start at center for years
Houston is going to be a beast in this defense just you wait and see
Bailey teamed with Dorsey and Jackson for the next several years Outstanding! He has what it takes He will be a better pro than college player

:chiefs:

Coach
05-06-2011, 08:56 AM
This draft can put us into the elite teams of the NFL


We will soon find out because we play all of the elite teams next year. 1st place schedule.

AkChief49
05-06-2011, 01:20 PM
We will soon find out because we play all of the elite teams next year. 1st place schedule.
If they play at all. We should be oohing and awing or grumbling about FA's or UDFA's:beat_DeadHorse: GET THIS LOCKOUT OVER WITH!!!!!!!

Seek
05-06-2011, 01:45 PM
This was an EXCELLENT draft. We have three legit first round TALENTS in houston, hudson, and baldwin. They fell for PERCEIVED reasons. Here's the thing...if no one will buy a house because it's pink, the price goes down. If you don't mind a pink house, then you got an excellent value. Everyone will sit around saying, "You shouldn't have bought that house! It's pink!" And then you say, "uh...the foundation is excellent. The location is excellent. I can easily paint it and then I just have a perfect house." That's called value. Buying low. We nailed that.

But forget the fact that we nailed draft value on a number of our picks.

Forget that every one of our picks has terrific upside.

My biggest excitement is the number of potential day one starters from this draft.

Jon Baldwin - WR2
Rodney Hudson - C
Justin Houston - LOLB
Jerrell Powe - NT
Shane Brannon - FB (top of depth chart, though FB might not be an official "starter")

Add to that the contributions to special teams by Miller, Brown, and Bailey.

Also, Stanzi hopefully gives us an upgrade at the backup QB spot.

We are looking at five potential starters on Day 1 from this draft. Three of those players

I know people are saying we reached on Jon Baldwin. They wanted us to take Torrey Smith, the "burner." Guess what? Baldwin is taller, thicker, better leaping, better hands, and only a few HUNDREDTHS of a second slower than everyone's "burner."

Besides, Baldwin had one rough year. That year the entire team fell apart. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. He has no other issues to speak of. He made a comment after a frustrating game. Big deal. The guy isn't a thug. He's not out stealing cars. He made a dumb comment to a dumb "reporter" from NFLdraftscout.com.

Oh man, I'm getting really, really pumped about this team. We are almost to a point where bringing in a few key free agents will really make a difference.

Don't get all pissed off with Haley when your predictions don't happen.

Baldwin may start day one, but only because there is no one else really good enough to start instead of him. I would be hard pressed to consider Baldwin a legit #2 Wr. He still has a lot to learn before starting, and with the current situation with the lock out, he may not be signed until a week before they play games, and he will be so far behind compared to any other WR on the team last year. I do expect him to be the starting WR by the end of his first season.

Hudson has the best chance to start day one. Still has the same Lock Out issues as all rookies, but depending on Free agency, he would be the only Center on the roster, unless we resign Weigmann and Niswanger. If one of those two are signed, Hudson would have to be a clear favorite in any type of training camp there is to get the start. Again, though I expect him to be the starter by the end of the season.

Many analysis are saying Justion Houston dropped to the third round for more than his Drug testing. They feel he is a one trick pony and will need to develop as a player other than just a speed rusher. He is also very inconsistent and many feel that his numbers fell, when teams were able to account for his one sided speed rush only. He is probably situational this year, with a decent future ahead of him as long as he puts in the effort.

Jerrell Powe, could be a starter day one. The biggest conern with him is staying in shape. Many feel he may only be a 1st and 2nd down NT until he understands the game.

chiefnut
05-06-2011, 04:50 PM
Don't get all pissed off with Haley when your predictions don't happen.

Baldwin may start day one, but only because there is no one else really good enough to start instead of him. I would be hard pressed to consider Baldwin a legit #2 Wr. He still has a lot to learn before starting, and with the current situation with the lock out, he may not be signed until a week before they play games, and he will be so far behind compared to any other WR on the team last year. I do expect him to be the starting WR by the end of his first season.

Hudson has the best chance to start day one. Still has the same Lock Out issues as all rookies, but depending on Free agency, he would be the only Center on the roster, unless we resign Weigmann and Niswanger. If one of those two are signed, Hudson would have to be a clear favorite in any type of training camp there is to get the start. Again, though I expect him to be the starter by the end of the season.

Many analysis are saying Justion Houston dropped to the third round for more than his Drug testing. They feel he is a one trick pony and will need to develop as a player other than just a speed rusher. He is also very inconsistent and many feel that his numbers fell, when teams were able to account for his one sided speed rush only. He is probably situational this year, with a decent future ahead of him as long as he puts in the effort.

Jerrell Powe, could be a starter day one. The biggest concern with him is staying in shape. Many feel he may only be a 1st and 2nd down NT until he understands the game.


thats what i said but you said it much better!!!!:punk:

Jrudi
05-09-2011, 12:38 PM
The reality is that a number of these draft picks will be significant CONTRIBUTORS this upcoming season.

Starter or not, that designation doesn't really matter, that's more of a paycheck type designation... the "starters" get paid more and get the glory of being listed as a starter. Charles wasn't even listed as a starter this last season, and two seasons ago Derrick Johnson wasn't listed as a starter, even in the Denver game when he had two int's for TD's!

I can honestly see Baldwin, Hundson, Houston, and Powe, coming in and being legit contributors that will help this team become better on day one, and that may increase as the season moves on. Weather or not they are listed as starters does not mean they won't help this team. Brown, Bailey, and the Bannon will will get their names heard a couple of times throughout the season, but won't contribute as much as the first four mentioned.

They are all rookies and they all have to learn a lot, but overall I think this draft class is a good one. Lets just hope they can be as productive as 2010's. If they are, I think we are headed in the right direction!

chiefnut
05-09-2011, 02:37 PM
it seems we all agree Baldwin, Hudson, Houston and Powe are expected to contribute in 2011 to varying degrees the others will over time.