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honda522
08-22-2011, 12:56 PM
This guy is impressing me from the Baltimore game. I don't know if its because it was the Ravens second teamers or what.

Wasn't he the one who test positive for pot right before the combine?

#58ChiefsFan
08-22-2011, 01:30 PM
He is in raw form about the same as Hali both are undersized DE's playing LB. 6'3" 270 and 275 pounds respectively. Houston was projected as a late first round pick that fell to the third round due to the positive test. Justin has a ton of potential and could be developed into quite a compliment to Hali in a couple years.

Seek
08-22-2011, 01:51 PM
This guy is impressing me from the Baltimore game. I don't know if its because it was the Ravens second teamers or what.

Wasn't he the one who test positive for pot right before the combine?

Yes he is that guy. He is also the one 3rd round player who held out longer than all other draft picks.

He did look very good. Looked bigger Frida night than all the scout reports when we drafted him.

DMN
08-22-2011, 01:56 PM
does anyone know where I could find some footage from that game?

matthewschiefs
08-22-2011, 02:53 PM
He showed up to play against the ravens for sure. Him and veran Tucker both showed what they could bring to the team. Lets hope both can keep it up.

Jrudi
08-22-2011, 04:34 PM
Missed most of the Game, but saw highlights, and yeah he had a good game.

I hope he can do this in the regular season but.... just so we don't get our hopes up....

3 seasons ago, Haley's 1st year, I saw a LB in the preseason that was all over the field! he was making plays in the backfield, and honestly you saw him get a hand on the ball carrier just about every play. We signed this guy for special teams, and he won a starting LB job in the pre-season due to his good performance.....This guy was Corey Mays. I'm not saying Mays is horrible, or Houston will suck, I'm just saying I do hope he can do this in the regular season, not just the pre-season, and he's not just getting our hopes up.

Seek
08-22-2011, 05:12 PM
Missed most of the Game, but saw highlights, and yeah he had a good game.

I hope he can do this in the regular season but.... just so we don't get our hopes up....

3 seasons ago, Haley's 1st year, I saw a LB in the preseason that was all over the field! he was making plays in the backfield, and honestly you saw him get a hand on the ball carrier just about every play. We signed this guy for special teams, and he won a starting LB job in the pre-season due to his good performance.....This guy was Corey Mays. I'm not saying Mays is horrible, or Houston will suck, I'm just saying I do hope he can do this in the regular season, not just the pre-season, and he's not just getting our hopes up.

In comparision to the Starter Andy Studebaker who I like as a character high motor person. He showed a lot of promise. Your comparison to Corey Mays isn't as feasible as Corey Mays was a Vet. This kid is the first round talent we got in the 3rd round.

He was slotted to be drafted in the mid 1st round until he failed the drug test.

He could very well become the OLB version of Derrick Johnson who struggled the first couple years but is looking great right now.

chiefnut
08-22-2011, 05:28 PM
does anyone know where I could find some footage from that game?


NFL NETWORK replay tuesday 10 am

matthewschiefs
08-22-2011, 06:22 PM
Missed most of the Game, but saw highlights, and yeah he had a good game.

I hope he can do this in the regular season but.... just so we don't get our hopes up....

3 seasons ago, Haley's 1st year, I saw a LB in the preseason that was all over the field! he was making plays in the backfield, and honestly you saw him get a hand on the ball carrier just about every play. We signed this guy for special teams, and he won a starting LB job in the pre-season due to his good performance.....This guy was Corey Mays. I'm not saying Mays is horrible, or Houston will suck, I'm just saying I do hope he can do this in the regular season, not just the pre-season, and he's not just getting our hopes up.


I am hoping the same. The one thing that has me more excited is that he looked pretty good against some of the Ravens starting unit. But now the question will be do other teams see something on tape and find a way to just shut him down. But it's always good to see a rookie showing good things in the preseason.

toyotapower
08-22-2011, 06:44 PM
I am hoping the same. The one thing that has me more excited is that he looked pretty good against some of the Ravens starting unit. But now the question will be do other teams see something on tape and find a way to just shut him down. But it's always good to see a rookie showing good things in the preseason.

It would be excellent for us if the offense had to focus on shutting him down. That would make our pass rush unstoppable considering we already have that in Hali

DMN
08-22-2011, 09:07 PM
NFL NETWORK replay tuesday 10 am

No direct TV..... NOOOOO. haha.

I am just glad we looked better.

ctchiefsfan
08-23-2011, 12:30 AM
Missed the Ravens game, but good rumbles about Houston from that game. I'm starting to get "cautiously optomistic" about this pick.

OPLookn
08-23-2011, 12:24 PM
Missed the Ravens game, but good rumbles about Houston from that game. I'm starting to get "cautiously optomistic" about this pick.

I too am becoming optimistic about this pick. But I find myself even more curious about how he's getting along in the locker room. After Baldwin's spectacular blowup has Houston seen it's not smart to be a diva and better to blend in? Or is he still the "I'm a first round talent" hold out? I didn't get to see the game but if he's blending well with the team and his attitude is becoming a "what can I do for the team" then I'm willing to give the kid a few years to develop. I suppose I'll take a Hali Jr. right now though if it's forced on me. :lol:

josh1971
08-23-2011, 09:19 PM
The great thing here is that on the opposite side from Hali, he creates a disruption by being a good pass rusher- do you defend Hali? Houston? Both?

That frees up 1st round picks Dorsey and Jackson, and DJ, Sheffield, Gregg, Gilberry, etc. to get to the QB and make plays. I think it's just another good way to overmatch opposing offenses.

Seek
08-24-2011, 09:22 AM
I too am becoming optimistic about this pick. But I find myself even more curious about how he's getting along in the locker room. After Baldwin's spectacular blowup has Houston seen it's not smart to be a diva and better to blend in? Or is he still the "I'm a first round talent" hold out? I didn't get to see the game but if he's blending well with the team and his attitude is becoming a "what can I do for the team" then I'm willing to give the kid a few years to develop. I suppose I'll take a Hali Jr. right now though if it's forced on me. :lol:

This is the first I have even heard of him being a Diva. I am assuming this is a What if type of speculation, but typically players understand when a person hold outs for more money. If that is the case, at least he showed on the field that he is walking that talk a little.

I will watch the teams reactions towards him next time and see if anyone high fives him or anything after a play or is talking to him on the side line. Usually you can tell if he is liked in the locker room if people just ho Hum a sack or good play. Brandon Siler got tons of high fives after his big block on the punt return and I think Houston may have been one of those people excited, so I think he is at least in with the line backers.

DMN
08-24-2011, 10:29 AM
This is the first I have even heard of him being a Diva. I am assuming this is a What if type of speculation, but typically players understand when a person hold outs for more money. If that is the case, at least he showed on the field that he is walking that talk a little.

I will watch the teams reactions towards him next time and see if anyone high fives him or anything after a play or is talking to him on the side line. Usually you can tell if he is liked in the locker room if people just ho Hum a sack or good play. Brandon Siler got tons of high fives after his big block on the punt return and I think Houston may have been one of those people excited, so I think he is at least in with the line backers.

This is a good point. I never really thought about it too much. I guess this short offseason didn't really help the rooks with comradery, not to mention his holdout and character concerns.

Those two sacks were huge for this guy. I think it showed the team that this kid has some serious talent. So if the team will get behind him he can see great success.

And apparently he is still not in top shape. He let his play do the talking and I can't wait to see more.

What do you guys think about baldwin? I kinda viewed them the same at the start of camp. But now realize he is more of an issue. I know it sounds crazy but I think something like this was gonna happen no matter what. And I think we are somewhat fortunate that is was as minor as it ended up being and he can still play. I mean he has weeks to set around and think about his attitude. I gotta believe he comes back and shows he is for real.

ctchiefsfan
08-24-2011, 10:54 AM
I can't say I am getting the "warm and fuzzies" about Baldwin.

That said, I think we have a good enough team and coach that we can correct his attitude. :whipping1:

Jrudi
08-24-2011, 02:20 PM
I too am becoming optimistic about this pick. But I find myself even more curious about how he's getting along in the locker room. After Baldwin's spectacular blowup has Houston seen it's not smart to be a diva and better to blend in? Or is he still the "I'm a first round talent" hold out? I didn't get to see the game but if he's blending well with the team and his attitude is becoming a "what can I do for the team" then I'm willing to give the kid a few years to develop. I suppose I'll take a Hali Jr. right now though if it's forced on me. :lol:

Was there ever a report that actually said he was holding out for more money??? I actually thought the new rookie wage scale limited the variables with rookie contracts, so he actually couldn't "hold out for more money"

Not sure if we really ever got an explanation for why he was late signing. As for now, I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt, and think that he is on track so far. I hope he does well this season, 1 more stud LB (Or if Belcher can step it up a level) and we could have a LB corp like the Steelers in a year or two!

Seek
08-24-2011, 03:41 PM
Was there ever a report that actually said he was holding out for more money??? I actually thought the new rookie wage scale limited the variables with rookie contracts, so he actually couldn't "hold out for more money"

Not sure if we really ever got an explanation for why he was late signing. As for now, I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt, and think that he is on track so far. I hope he does well this season, 1 more stud LB (Or if Belcher can step it up a level) and we could have a LB corp like the Steelers in a year or two!

I never saw a report that said he was holding out for money. It was speculation from the reports. I believe the Slotting system is only for the first two rounds. After that, there is the ability to negotiate.

I don't know for a fact if that is true. I just heard is somewhere.

SIC J
08-24-2011, 03:57 PM
I thought the late signing was due to Houston not being on the top priority list of signing.