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TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 07:20 PM
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/10/28.jpg VS. http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/10/29.jpg
at Arrowhead Sradium
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/10/30.jpg
LINE: Chargers by 3


ESPN Preview:

The San Diego Chargers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sd/san-diego-chargers) are sitting alone atop the AFC West but don't believe they're playing their best football.
The Kansas City Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) feel like they're finally starting to come around after an embarrassing start, but they haven't really been tested lately.

The Chargers look to bounce back from a disappointing loss Monday night when they visit the Chiefs, who are trying to win their fourth in a row and claim a share of first place in the division.

San Diego (4-2), which saw its run of West titles end at four as Kansas City captured the crown last season, was in position to extend its winning streak to four last Sunday, leading the New York Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets) 21-10 at halftime. The Chargers failed to score after the break, however, and Philip Rivers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5529/philip-rivers) threw two fourth-quarter interceptions that led to the Jets' last 10 points in a 27-21 road loss.

"We just need to play better and put a complete game together," said Rivers, who finished with a season-low 179 passing yards. "We still haven't put one together and we're 4-2. You can look at that two ways: Obviously we're not playing as good as we can and we've won four games, or we better put it together or we're not going to get done what we want to get done."
Rivers has clearly not been playing up to his potential.

The three-time Pro Bowler has seven touchdown passes to nine interceptions -- four fewer than he had all of last season. He had no touchdowns and two interceptions in a 20-17 win over Kansas City on Sept. 25, a victory that started the Chargers' three-game winning streak.

That loss was the Chiefs' third straight to start the season, but they've rebounded by winning their last three. No team has started 0-3 and won its next four games since Pittsburgh in 2000.

Kansas City's wins haven't come against the NFL's top competition, however. The Chiefs (3-3) have defeated last-place teams Minnesota and Indianapolis and beat an Oakland squad last Sunday that was unsettled at quarterback.

They intercepted both Kyle Boller (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/4477/kyle-boller) and Carson Palmer (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/4459/carson-palmer) three times in a 28-0 victory. It was the franchise's first six-interception game since 1984 against Seattle and first road shutout since beating San Diego in 1973.

"The great part about what this team has done is we just continue to grind and take it one game at a time," quarterback Matt Cassel (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8644/matt-cassel) said. "You can see us get better from the start of the season till now. Hopefully we'll just continue to make progress. We know it's a one-game season every week."

Cassel had two interceptions against the Raiders -- his first picks since throwing one to Eric Weddle (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10481/eric-weddle) at midfield with 55 seconds left in San Diego last month.

In that meeting, the Chiefs were playing their first game since All-Pro running back Jamaal Charles (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11307/jamaal-charles) was put on injured reserve with a torn left ACL. Kansas City's ground game was in flux and finished with a season-low 81 yards. It has since found some consistency behind Jackie Battle (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11197/jackie-battle) and is averaging 145.3 rushing yards during the winning streak.

Battle, who has run for 195 yards on 35 attempts in the last two games, will be facing a San Diego defense that has yielded 162 rushing yards in each of its last two contests.

Kansas City's defense has also been susceptible against the run, ranking 25th in the league with 125.5 yards allowed per game. The Chargers' Ryan Mathews (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13204/ryan-mathews) rushed for 98 yards and two touchdowns on 21 carries in last month's matchup.

The Chiefs, 8-2 at home since the start of last season, have lost seven of eight to the Chargers, with the lone victory coming in a Monday night game at Arrowhead Stadium to open last season.

"We just have to keep believing," Kansas City cornerback Brandon Flowers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11269/brandon-flowers) said. "We never bowed our head and thought the season was done like some people did. We just knew if we kept pushing, things would turn around for us. It's going to be a great showdown Monday night."

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 07:21 PM
Thanks TopekaRoy! Would you like me to fix your title? :lol:

Oh, GO CHIEFS!!!!!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 07:25 PM
Thanks TopekaRoy! Would you like me to fix your title? :lol:

Oh, GO CHIEFS!!!!!
Yes please. That's the one thing I can't edit!

KristofLaw
10-31-2011, 07:41 PM
Monday Nights player of the game should be DJ as the representative of a sound Monday defensive game. I hope we have an answer to shut down Gates tonight, no big plays from him on 3rd downs etcetera would be a huge plus to containing the Chargers.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 08:09 PM
If you don't have Cable TV (or Satellite) you can watch the game here:

ESPN Live Stream Online (http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/49039/1/watch-espn.html)

kcvet
10-31-2011, 08:15 PM
Rivers is having a bad year. gotta get the D in his face, their D banged up. lets run up the score

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:16 PM
Yes please. That's the one thing I can't edit!

Done! :)

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 08:24 PM
Rivers is having a bad year. gotta get the D in his face, their D banged up. lets run up the score9 INTs and only 8 TD passes. Let's add 4 more INTs to that total tonight!


Done! :)
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/10/31.jpg

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:25 PM
Go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 08:25 PM
On the pregame show Rivers told Mike Tericco(?) that he was embarrassed last week and is going to work out his frustration on the Chiefs. He said they are going to "destroy" the Chiefs. If Crennel doesn't have mass amounts of blitzes and put that POS on the ground at least 10 times, I will be calling for his head.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:26 PM
9 INTs and only 8 TD passes. Let's add 4 more INTs to that total tonight!


http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/10/31.jpg

4?

I say 7 :chiefs:

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:27 PM
9 INTs and only 8 TD passes. Let's add 4 more INTs to that total tonight!


http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/10/31.jpg

It's what I do. :D

Bike
10-31-2011, 08:38 PM
On the pregame show Rivers told Mike Tericco(?) that he was embarrassed last week and is going to work out his frustration on the Chiefs. He said they are going to "destroy" the Chiefs. If Crennel doesn't have mass amounts of blitzes and put that POS on the ground at least 10 times, I will be calling for his head.

Absolutely. Send the house.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:40 PM
Here We Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miller
10-31-2011, 08:41 PM
Great job!

Bike
10-31-2011, 08:42 PM
Arrowhead is rockin' tonight!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:43 PM
GREAT JOB D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TD offense COME ON no slow start tonight

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 08:44 PM
Defense looked great!

spiman
10-31-2011, 08:46 PM
:meow: Not tonight. We destroy them

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 08:47 PM
Baldwin Comin' Through!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:47 PM
Good to see baldwin get an early catch

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:49 PM
Bowe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miller
10-31-2011, 08:49 PM
Take it to them Chiefs! Love hard nosed Football!

Miller
10-31-2011, 08:50 PM
How did the back judge waive it off?

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:51 PM
Looked like a catch to me!

Bike
10-31-2011, 08:51 PM
It was a clean catch.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 08:51 PM
Offense looking pretty sharp so far. This game has a playoff atmosphere to it.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:52 PM
This has got to challenged!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:52 PM
Offense looking pretty sharp so far. This game has a playoff atmosphere to it.

I love the crowd presence!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:55 PM
Good to get the lead GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:55 PM
Three is better then the goose egg!

SIC J
10-31-2011, 08:56 PM
Baldwin is gonna be a beast!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 08:57 PM
Chiefs get on the board first to take a 3-0 lead. They moved the ball well, but they have to watch the stupid penalties. That false start may have cost them 4 points.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:57 PM
This completing the pass bit is stupid. I've seen passes that were complete where the receiver actually took steps with the ball but because it popped out after hitting the ground it was ruled incomplete.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 08:57 PM
Succups FG is "good as Gould." LOL!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:58 PM
Picked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:58 PM
Pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 08:58 PM
Interception!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 08:59 PM
That's one! Terrible pass!

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 08:59 PM
W0w.....

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 08:59 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 08:59 PM
Damn that could have been huge for us

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:00 PM
Uggh! gave it right back!

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:00 PM
You have got to be kidding.

SIC J
10-31-2011, 09:00 PM
No way. He was down! Challenge that!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 09:00 PM
I think I like Kendrick Lewis more then Berry. As im typing im also realizing I don't like mccluster that much at times he looks good but does not hold onto the ball, he's just too small.

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:01 PM
Looks down!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:01 PM
Hopefully we get the ball back

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:02 PM
This should be overturned.

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:02 PM
Turnovers lose games! We need that ball!

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:03 PM
What?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:03 PM
How was he not down?

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:04 PM
How was there not enough evidence?

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:04 PM
How was he not down?
He was down. Bad call.

SIC J
10-31-2011, 09:05 PM
That was probably the EASIEST call to make and the refs F-ed that one up. I will say it right now, the Chiefs will get an apology from the commission.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:05 PM
How in the world can they miss that on video?

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:05 PM
Pick that!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:06 PM
Damn could have had it again

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:07 PM
Damn could have had it again
Another missed opportunity. Not good.

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:09 PM
Interception!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:09 PM
DJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:09 PM
Pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:09 PM
DJ baby!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:11 PM
Let's go get 7 more!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:11 PM
That's two! Should be 3 already. Maybe we can get 7 picks tonight!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:11 PM
The d has been on fire getting picks lately Lets hope they can keep it going

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:13 PM
and 15 more yards Thanks Chargers

KristofLaw
10-31-2011, 09:13 PM
First Down --->

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:13 PM
Tack it on!

N TX Dave
10-31-2011, 09:13 PM
That was probably the EASIEST call to make and the refs F-ed that one up. I will say it right now, the Chiefs will get an apology from the commission.

I am listing to the national broadcasters and they all three said it will be overturned and were suppristed it wasn't and said 99 people out of a 100 would have overturned it. It looks like the Chiefs are playing against 12 players on the field.

Way to go McClain!

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:14 PM
TD!!!!!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:14 PM
TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:14 PM
Baldwin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KristofLaw
10-31-2011, 09:14 PM
TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 09:14 PM
I knew this kid would be a redzone threat you can't teach 6"5

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:15 PM
That was perty!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 09:15 PM
Cassel haters go to h@[[!!!!!!!!!!!

NKChiefs
10-31-2011, 09:15 PM
Oh yeah.................. TD!!!!!!

N TX Dave
10-31-2011, 09:15 PM
ALL RIGHT GREAT Throw and Catch! Touchdoooooowwwwwwnnnnn!!!!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:16 PM
Keep playin' like that, Baldwin, and all is forgiven. The extra point makes it 10-0 Chiefs!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:16 PM
Let's keep that rollin!

2010chiefs
10-31-2011, 09:16 PM
Wow! Baldwin Baby! I Love It!

SIC J
10-31-2011, 09:17 PM
Like I said, Baldwin is a BEAST!!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:22 PM
Great 1st quater now get 3 more just like it

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:23 PM
Good 1st quarter. Hali is putting a lot of pressure on Rivers. He should get a couple of sacks today if they stop holding him.

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 09:24 PM
When did we become so good? Wow!

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:24 PM
Great 1st quater now get 3 more just like it
40-zip is cool with me. River's mouth needs a shuttin'...

KristofLaw
10-31-2011, 09:24 PM
10 - 0 after 15...... more to come! Go Chiefs!


Cassel 5/8 106 1-0.... more to come! Go Chiefs!!!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:25 PM
GREAT job DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:25 PM
When did we become so good? Wow!
Last year? We're actually better than this when we're healthy.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:27 PM
Really????" That's pass interference?

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 09:29 PM
enough with the penalties what are we the raiders???

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:29 PM
Really????" That's pass interference?Terrible calls from the refs tonite. I mean, really bad.

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 09:29 PM
It's clear we're going to be playing against poor officiating also. The head-to-head personal foul is required by the league. These refs are clearly in the Dolts pocket.

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 09:30 PM
Last year? We're actually better than this when we're healthy.

I don't remember our defense dominating teams like that last year.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:31 PM
It's clear we're going to be playing against poor officiating also. The head-to-head personal foul is required by the league. These refs are clearly in the Dolts pocket.

Even the annoncers are questioning the zebras and more on calls against us.

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:32 PM
It's clear we're going to be playing against poor officiating also. The head-to-head personal foul is required by the league. These refs are clearly in the Dolts pocket.
I don't know - that 15 yarder on McClanes' catch allowed us to get a td...

KristofLaw
10-31-2011, 09:32 PM
Come on Chiefs! Let's do something BIG!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:33 PM
I don't remember our defense dominating teams like that last year.
Yeah, the defense has looked good since the 3rd game. I'd like to foget the first 2 games.

KristofLaw
10-31-2011, 09:34 PM
He got scared. He had him.... toss it out...

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:37 PM
At least that was offensive pass interference.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:38 PM
Terrible calls from the refs tonite. I mean, really bad.

Without a doubt.

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:39 PM
At least that was offensive pass interference.
Very offensive.

KristofLaw
10-31-2011, 09:40 PM
10 - 3 .... the Crowd needs to keep it loud the whole game. C'mon Chiefs, let's keep it going!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:40 PM
Very offensive.

HA! :lol:

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:41 PM
Alright. We held them to 3 on a short field. I can live with that.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:41 PM
10 - 3 .... the Crowd needs to keep it loud the whole game. C'mon Chiefs, let's keep it going!


Yup, the twelfth man needs to remain a force.

Miller
10-31-2011, 09:42 PM
Man this is an enjoyable game! Have not seen something like this in a while

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 09:44 PM
Come one Baldwin WTF!

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:44 PM
I'm kinda agreeing a lot with these announcers tonite...

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:45 PM
Where'd our offense go???????????????/

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:47 PM
Chargers are doing a good job of stopping the run. We need to get that going to open things up a little bit.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:48 PM
Where'd our offense go???????????????/

I don't know, but I hope it comes back.

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 09:48 PM
Why are they not covering the middle?

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:49 PM
Where's our defense go??????????????

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:50 PM
FUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now get a td take them right back out of it

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:50 PM
There it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:50 PM
Fumble! Chiefs recover!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 09:50 PM
We need MORE POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 09:51 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



That bend don't break defense is gonna give me a heart attack!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:51 PM
Chiefs need to move the ball now. The defense looks like it's getting tired. Let's give them the rest of the half off and finish with a TD!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 09:52 PM
Come on Haley, don't be a Schotaleadheimer! Get aggressive on offense and go back to 5 and 6 man rushes. Quit playing "not to lose". Let's play TO WIN!

AussieChiefsFan
10-31-2011, 09:52 PM
Im watching at school. I started watching in delay but now ive caught up to live. Great game so far CHIEFS!!!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 09:53 PM
Geez do we have the most interceptions in the NFL??

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:54 PM
Offense has went dead.

AussieChiefsFan
10-31-2011, 09:54 PM
Geez do we have the most interceptions in the NFL??
Id be surprised if we didnt

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:54 PM
And anther 3 and out the offense is takeing our crowd out of the game

AussieChiefsFan
10-31-2011, 09:54 PM
that was close

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 09:55 PM
Great, our guys never went after the ball because they blew the whistle. If this is ruled a fumble, we got screwed.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:56 PM
That should be ruled incomplete. The ball wasn't touched and it went forward.

KCdrummer
10-31-2011, 09:58 PM
R U Kidding Me Refs???????????

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 09:58 PM
Terrible call!

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:58 PM
Terrible call again.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 09:59 PM
BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How is there enough to overturn that but not ours Refs are screwing us

Bike
10-31-2011, 09:59 PM
Wow. These refs need to go back to school...

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:01 PM
I think the PI call was a make up call!

AussieChiefsFan
10-31-2011, 10:01 PM
horrible reverse

AussieChiefsFan
10-31-2011, 10:02 PM
Sack!!!!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:03 PM
I hate Gruden. He grabbed Hali by his shoulderpads and pulled Hali almost to the ground.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:03 PM
I think the PI call was a make up call!

They owe us a couple more

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:04 PM
I hate Gruden. He grabbed Hali by his shoulderpads and pulled Hali almost to the ground.
That was holding. At least they got that one right!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:04 PM
I am going to stop listening to the audio on this. Every penalty on us Gruden is saying "Good call!" Every penalty on them, he says "I don't see it. That's a bad call". Too bad the POS signed a 5 year extension for MNF.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:06 PM
HA he missed take that refs

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:07 PM
Trick or treat! The Chiefs dodged a bullet there. Now they need to get something going before halftime.

AussieChiefsFan
10-31-2011, 10:07 PM
great field position now

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:08 PM
2 passing yards in the 2nd quarter. WTH is Haley thinking?

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:08 PM
Why are we doing this crap AGAIN

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 10:09 PM
I don't like the super conservative play calling we are only up by 1 td but hey if we get a td and run the clock out brilliant

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:11 PM
Nice kick

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:12 PM
If it's thrown past the line of scrimmage it isn't intentional grounding. Jaws is the only announcer not openly cheering for SD.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 10:12 PM
Can we please just have one coach call the offensive plays!!!!!!!

Bike
10-31-2011, 10:12 PM
Chiefs.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:12 PM
You Succup! 13-3 Chiefs!

chief31
10-31-2011, 10:13 PM
Is Jon Gruden the regular color announcer for The Chargers?

I have never heard such bias from a guy who has never been employed by one of the teams playing.

kcvet
10-31-2011, 10:13 PM
its gettin' old. massive confusion getting the play in.

chief31
10-31-2011, 10:14 PM
Great first half for Matt Cassel. But that defense was stellar!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:16 PM
Is Jon Gruden the regular color announcer for The Chargers?

I have never heard such bias from a guy who has never been employed by one of the teams playing.


I'm listening to the Chiefs broadcast on the radio. I like that a lot better.

Good first half for the Chiefs but the offense needs to move the ball better or the defense won't be able to hold this lead.

We get the Kickoff to start the 2nd half. Let's make it count.

dietsch
10-31-2011, 10:17 PM
If it's thrown past the line of scrimmage it isn't intentional grounding. Jaws is the only announcer not openly cheering for SD.

No, if there is nobody around, its intentional grounding if the qb is in the tackle box.

However, that being said, pretty impressive showing so far for the Chiefs. Need to get the communication fixed, though.

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:21 PM
Not If It's Past The Line Of Scrimmage-in Or Out Of The Tackles.

chief31
10-31-2011, 10:23 PM
I may be the only one, but I agree with the refs on the McCluster fumble. The call on the filed was wrong, but the replay did not show clear control of the ball after he was "down", to be able to overturn that call.

The Bowe, sideline "catch" was also the right call. From one angle, you can see the ball loose by Bowe's knees.

Now, the Cassel fumble was pure idiocy.

The PI call against Gates was right on.

I think the refs made the one major mistake, but have been pretty well on it otherwise.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:24 PM
Is Jon Gruden the regular color announcer for The Chargers?

I have never heard such bias from a guy who has never been employed by one of the teams playing.



Well he is a former faider coach

chief31
10-31-2011, 10:24 PM
Not If It's Past The Line Of Scrimmage-in Or Out Of The Tackles.

No. He's right.

If you never move outside the tackles, then any pass you throw has to have an intended receiver in the area.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:25 PM
First half passer ratings:
Cassel: 106.9
Rivers: 51.1
:lol::chiefs:

kcvet
10-31-2011, 10:27 PM
gotta bring the heat 2nd half. till our O works out the screw ups. with this score Rivers will let it fly.

chief31
10-31-2011, 10:27 PM
Well he is a former faider coach

"I'm feeling pretty good if I'm The Chargers"

You are Chucky. You are.

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 10:28 PM
Am I alone in saying I only want to see Mccluster doing our kick and punt returns and the occasional trick play. He's too small and for every great play he has 2 or 3 losses.

kcvet
10-31-2011, 10:28 PM
their helping us out !!!!

dietsch
10-31-2011, 10:28 PM
No. He's right.

If you never move outside the tackles, then any pass you throw has to have an intended receiver in the area.

Thank you.




Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass


Intentional grounding of a forward pass is a foul: loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot if passer is in the field of play or loss of down at the spot of the foul if it occurs more than 10 yards behind the line or safety if passer is in his own end zone when ball is released.
Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.
Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).

NFL Rules Digest: Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass (http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding)

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 10:29 PM
Not looking good. Offense can't do ****

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:29 PM
This is a bad sign to start the half.

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 10:30 PM
"I'm feeling pretty good if I'm The Chargers"

You are Chucky. You are.

I know it's sickening

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:30 PM
Great Punt

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:32 PM
Our offense is dead in the water the last several possessions, except for the last drive for the field goal. The way we opened the game should be what we're doing now. Let's get some posts and (long)slants. SD has taken a hard zone coverage in the center of the field. Why do we keep throwing into the heart of their secondary?

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 10:37 PM
Can we get a freakin pass rush!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 10:37 PM
dont blow it guys!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:39 PM
Good job arenas

dietsch
10-31-2011, 10:39 PM
Mcneil (73) is getting away with holding on almost every play vs. Hali.

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 10:40 PM
We need another score, defense is playing great tho

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:41 PM
We have to at least get 3 to answer there 3 keep them more then a Td down.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:43 PM
We need another score, defense is playing great tho
^^This^^

A 7 point lead makes me very nervous.

The last time we played the Chargers, the offense turned it up in the 2nd half. Maybe, Haley needs to yell and Cassel again!

SIC J
10-31-2011, 10:44 PM
Ok Chiefs. Stop with the conservative play calling and get aggressive like you started the game out!!!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 10:46 PM
Are Baldwin's gloves made out of crisco or something? he's hand like 5 passes in his hands.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:47 PM
Well thats not a good sign. we kept them in it with our offense and it might bite us in the end

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 10:47 PM
its over

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 10:47 PM
Catch the freakin ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 10:47 PM
Quit throwing the ball to Baldwin everyime he drops it!!!!!!! Now it's F'ed us!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:48 PM
Those two passes were there, where they had to be. Baldwin isn't the guy you can count on.

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 10:48 PM
got damn chiefs

kcvet
10-31-2011, 10:48 PM
their gonna gas our D

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:49 PM
Cassel probably shouldn't have thrown it into triple coverage, but Baldwin should have caught that.

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:50 PM
Thank God Rivers is sucking so badly.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:50 PM
D is doing a great job of holding them to 3 time and time again. The offense has to wake up again and get a td

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 10:51 PM
if we get a td we will most likely win the game.. their offense cant get 7

spiman
10-31-2011, 10:51 PM
This is freak'n torture

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:52 PM
Cassel probably shouldn't have thrown it into triple coverage, but Baldwin should have caught that.

He can't throw it anywhere else. Dolts are getting pressure because the receivers are being blanketed. He is taking what the Dolts give him. Any average receiver would have caught both those passes. Baldwin sucks!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:52 PM
We are lucky to still have a 4 point lead. Offense has to get going on this next drive or we will fall behind!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 10:52 PM
The offense is really stating to hack me off! No running game and now suddenly receivers cant catch passes that hit them in hands! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!






...That is all.

chief31
10-31-2011, 10:52 PM
Cassel probably shouldn't have thrown it into triple coverage, but Baldwin should have caught that.

Well, the ball got there before a second defender did, and it was on the money.

I have to say it's a good pass.

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:54 PM
Please quit giving the ball to McCluster. 1 good run for every 5-8 losses isn't worth it.

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:55 PM
We may lose this game. Our defense is gassed.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 10:55 PM
I got a bad feeling that unless the d scores we are going to blow this one

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 10:55 PM
Wow! just wow!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:56 PM
A clear shove in the back, 5 yards in front of the ref. No call!

SIC J
10-31-2011, 10:56 PM
The conservative play calling is getting ridiculous!

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 10:57 PM
We may lose this game. Our defense is gassed.


Well all the offense can do is stink up the place!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 10:57 PM
Whoever is calling the offense is losing us this game.

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 10:57 PM
This offense is pathetic. Unless the d gets a td we will lose the game. sooner or later rivers will throw a td

dietsch
10-31-2011, 10:57 PM
Mccluster can't break any tackle so I am not sure why we are giving him carries. Even the weakest arm tackles are bringing him down. We need to find some way to get him in space bc this attack just isn't working.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 10:58 PM
The conservative play calling is getting ridiculous!

...And when we do open it up the receivers can't catch!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 10:58 PM
Well, the ball got there before a second defender did, and it was on the money.

I have to say it's a good pass.
OI agree. It was risky but it was a very good pass. That INT was 100% Baldwin's fault.

spiman
10-31-2011, 10:58 PM
Where is our pass rush? Punter showed up

drstandley31
10-31-2011, 11:00 PM
how can you have a lead all night, and feel this bad about your team's performance

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 11:02 PM
D has done a GREAT job of not breaking but now we are out of room to give anymore. OFFENSE DO SOMETHING

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 11:03 PM
They're gonna freakin beat us with field goals if we don't wake up the offense!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 11:04 PM
Can't ask anymore out of a defense. But whoever's calling the offense needs fired. Just throw away what won the last three games for what lost us the first three.

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 11:06 PM
that was beautiful nice pass

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 11:07 PM
Cassel is throwing bullets

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 11:07 PM
lets go

dietsch
10-31-2011, 11:08 PM
Wow, that stat just shown was ridiculous, we had 9 yards that quarter.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 11:08 PM
Offense is starting to heat up now. Gotta get 7.

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 11:10 PM
a lot of work for like 4 1/2 yards but hey were winning eat the clock up boys.

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 11:10 PM
Battle battling for yards!!!!!!!!!

SIC J
10-31-2011, 11:12 PM
A TD is a MUST!!!!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 11:13 PM
This is more like it. Keep the ball moving all the way into the end zone. We don't need any big plays, just 5 pr 6 yards a pop will get the job done.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 11:14 PM
Battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 11:15 PM
WOW!!! Everyone aboard the Battle train!!! WHOO WHOO

loyalchief91
10-31-2011, 11:15 PM
that td is going to come bakc

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 11:16 PM
Well, that's one way to get the ball ointo the end zone. Fumble it in!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 11:16 PM
Why do we waste our time with McCluster? Battle can run in traffic and open field. McCluster is a great team player and a darn nice guy, but he isn't a professional grade runner.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 11:16 PM
that td is going to come bakc

Most likely but we will have the ball at the 1

not to mention it gives the d more of a break

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 11:16 PM
Finally a running game!

SIC J
10-31-2011, 11:16 PM
that td is going to come bakc

That's fine. Run another play, run 30 more secs off the clock, and pound it in for the TD!!!

Bike
10-31-2011, 11:17 PM
Impressed with Battle.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 11:17 PM
Dang it my PC crapped out on me!

SIC J
10-31-2011, 11:18 PM
Why do we waste our time with McCluster? Battle can run in traffic and open field. McCluster is a great team player and a darn nice guy, but he isn't a professional grade runner.

He can't hold onto the damn ball! And when he's in the backfield, teams stack the line so he can't do anything.

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 11:18 PM
Battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 11:18 PM
Lovin Battle.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 11:18 PM
TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bike
10-31-2011, 11:19 PM
That's fine. Run another play, run 30 more secs off the clock, and pound it in for the TD!!!
Exactly!!!

figcrostic
10-31-2011, 11:19 PM
Battle is a beast imagine him and Charles that's a thing of beauty oh and btw I have been begging for Battle to get more reps for a long time. He was a STUD in college

chief31
10-31-2011, 11:19 PM
Wow! Hunh, Jon Gruden?

Bike
10-31-2011, 11:20 PM
Dang it my PC crapped out on me!
Then how did you make this post???!!!

matthewschiefs
10-31-2011, 11:20 PM
Defense just has to do what they have done all night next drive. GET IT DONE

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 11:20 PM
There is zero excuse for a false start in your own house!

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 11:20 PM
Now the defense needs to get a quick 3 and out and the offense needs to score again while SDs Defense is still back on it's heels.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 11:21 PM
Then how did you make this post???!!!

I fired up my backup.

Chiefster
10-31-2011, 11:21 PM
Now the defense needs to get a quick 3 and out and the offense needs to score again while SDs Defense is still back on it's heels.

Eggsactly!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 11:22 PM
BTW, I always thought, because I've never seen it called, that if the ball was thrown out of bounds past the line of scrimmage it was legal. I can't remember one time it was called when it was well OOB and past the LOS.

TopekaRoy
10-31-2011, 11:27 PM
I told you hali would get a couple of sacks tonight!

azchiefsfan
10-31-2011, 11:30 PM
That last throw, Gilberry would have had a sack, but he was pulled to the ground by his facemask. Again, no call.