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figcrostic
11-01-2011, 11:09 AM
Observations:Our defense looked sick last night until they got wore out. I am so impressed with Kendrick Lewis I truly believe he is even better then Berry (except for stuffing the run Berry is monster at that). I can't believe we picked this kid up in the fifth round he is a beast.

Jackie Battle love that guy he has really stepped his game up when JC gets healthy our run game will be rediculous.

When Cassel had good protection he had laser accuracy, hitting his WR's right in the numbers.

Questions: Was the ball super slippery or what? because Cassell hit Baldwin in the hands like 5 times and it just bounced off. I mean what gives he hit him perfectly.

Why do we try to run Mccluster who's five foot 6 a buck and half up the gut only to lose yardage? Shouldn't we use Mccluster the same way we used Dante Hall get him in space. That means punt/kick returns and quick passes and pitches.

Chiefster
11-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Cassell's performance was near flawless, in my opinion, aside from a couple of miscues.

I think Cassell's performance along with the play of the defense was the reason we won last night.

Wide receivers need to understand that this is the NFL and if they can't bring in passes that his them in the hands then go play for some two bit minor league team. That really frustrated me. Of course a couple of the SD receivers had the same issue.

In all it was a great fourth in a row win!

Chiefster
11-01-2011, 11:30 AM
Oh, and when we did get McCluster the ball in space he did nothing....but get first downs. :D

figcrostic
11-01-2011, 11:44 AM
Oh, and when we did get McCluster the ball in space he did nothing....but get first downs. :D

Yup when he's in space he makes guys look stupid. That's what he's good, don't try to make him a run between the tackles guy he's a 2 yard toss and go type guy.

Chiefster
11-01-2011, 11:48 AM
Yup when he's in space he makes guys look stupid. That's what he's good, don't try to make him a run between the tackles guy he's a 2 yard toss and go type guy.

Truth! :bananen_smilies046:

Ryfo18
11-01-2011, 01:06 PM
Cassel's accuracy was as good as I've ever seen it. A lot of drops on Baldwin and Bowe's part kept him from an even better day.

McCluster does need the ball in space...Handoffs up the gut aren't going to do it. It's like he's playing two-hand touch out there.

The defense is awesome though. I wish someone outside of Hali could get some pressure going, but Hali was an absolute monster, as usual.

azchiefsfan
11-01-2011, 01:16 PM
"I haven't had one in years," Rivers said of the fumbled snap. "It's unfortunate. I dropped it. This one is rough. You blow it on a play that never should have happened."

That whiney POS is talking about the offensive interference pass against them. If that was called against us all the "analysts" wouldn't be talking about it and sticking up for us like they are the Dolts. There was a push off by the receiver(offensive pass interference), then the defender grabbed the arm to keep from falling down from the O interference. Right call and Rivers is a whiney beatch.

azchiefsfan
11-01-2011, 01:23 PM
Cassel was fantastic. Whoever called the 2nd and 3rd quarters needs fired-or a swift kick in the @$$. This could have been a blowout for us if we kept marching down the field. The Dolts defense is poor and it was us going into a prevent offense that almost cost us the game. Our D did everything they could, but were just plain spent on the last Dolt drive of regulation.

Jrudi
11-01-2011, 01:28 PM
Yeah Pressure was my only disappointment to that game.

Before the game, I mentioned the Key to winning was to put pressure on Rivers, and frustrate him. He get's flustered, starts yelling at his team, and can't lead the offense....

We didn't get good pressure on him until very late in the game. If we could have rattled him early, and continued to all 4 qtrs (like last years Monday night game), we could have put that game away long before overtime.

We did a lot of really good things (I agree that I am impressed with Lewis's Play recently as well, and DJ is just becoming a Beast) But I do have to say that we almost gave that game away. We came out strong, and then let them hang around, and it almost bit us in the butt. Thank you to Rivers, gift wrapping us a highly unlikely turnover, or we would have lost that game.

I am glad to see us show flashes here and there, throughout the games, but we will have to start putting it together for an entire game. Not just parts of it. When we get to the stretch of GB, PIT, NE, CHI, and NY we wont be able to let those teams hang around... They don't make the stupid mistakes that Oakland and San Diego do, so we will need to be on the top of our game.

I am confident we will get a few wins in that stretch, but I am just hoping we can put it all together for an entire game, not just the 1st qtr, or the 2nd half, an entire game.

azchiefsfan
11-01-2011, 01:37 PM
I hope Baldwin is strapped to a piece of plywood, standing up in the middle of the field all this week, and has balls thrown at his fingertips 12 hours a day. Further, for every ball he drops, he gets hosed with ice cold water. It will cure him...or kill him, but either way he has got to stop dropping passes.

azchiefsfan
11-01-2011, 01:40 PM
p.s. The reason to strap him to the plywood is to force him to use his hands.

figcrostic
11-01-2011, 01:43 PM
I hope Baldwin is strapped to a piece of plywood, standing up in the middle of the field all this week, and has balls thrown at his fingertips 12 hours a day. Further, for every ball he drops, he gets hosed with ice cold water. It will cure him...or kill him, but either way he has got to stop dropping passes.

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/11/3.jpg

figcrostic
11-01-2011, 01:44 PM
Also why are we so good on third and long but not so much on the 1st and 2nd down

azchiefsfan
11-01-2011, 01:53 PM
http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/images/imported/2011/11/3.jpg

"It puts the ball in the hands or it gets the hose again."

chief31
11-01-2011, 01:57 PM
Cassel was fantastic. Whoever called the 2nd and 3rd quarters needs fired-or a swift kick in the @$$. This could have been a blowout for us if we kept marching down the field. The Dolts defense is poor and it was us going into a prevent offense that almost cost us the game. Our D did everything they could, but were just plain spent on the last Dolt drive of regulation.

I don't think they play-calling was the big problem.

I mean, 2nd and 23, and we ran back-to-back draws. That wasn't real impressive.

But there wer a lot of penalties, dropped passes, and sacks that were far more costly, in my opinion.

figcrostic
11-01-2011, 02:06 PM
"It puts the ball in the hands or it gets the hose again."

:lol: :bananen_smilies046:

OPLookn
11-01-2011, 02:15 PM
I hope Baldwin is strapped to a piece of plywood, standing up in the middle of the field all this week, and has balls thrown at his fingertips 12 hours a day. Further, for every ball he drops, he gets hosed with ice cold water. It will cure him...or kill him, but either way he has got to stop dropping passes.

There were a couple of throws where Baldwin just flat out let the ball go thru his hands (see Cassel's 1st INT). But some of the "drops" I think are just him adjusting to NFL defensive talent. He's been running his routes good enough to get thrown to and that's a start.

Now he's got to go thru the Bowe school of re-conditioning to learn to use his hands and not his body to catch the ball. To me Bowe was doing the exact same thing in his 2nd and 3rd year so just think, in a year or two we could have not just one but two stud receivers!

okikcfan
11-01-2011, 02:28 PM
But I do have to say that we almost gave that game away. We came out strong, and then let them hang around, and it almost bit us in the butt.


We have to remember this is phillip Rivers. As much as we dislike or hate him he is one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. When he is on his game he can be unstopable as he showed last night. Cassel also played at the top of his game, he played smart and had Great accuracy. They were on the 15 yard line, shoulda kicked it, game over but Norv Turner chose to keep going. Thank you Norv and Rivers. But in the end in overtime it was the defense, Cassel and the Chiefs as a whole who won this game. And it was freaking AWESOME!:whipping1:

TopekaRoy
11-01-2011, 02:52 PM
There were a couple of throws where Baldwin just flat out let the ball go thru his hands (see Cassel's 1st INT). But some of the "drops" I think are just him adjusting to NFL defensive talent. He's been running his routes good enough to get thrown to and that's a start.

Now he's got to go thru the Bowe school of re-conditioning to learn to use his hands and not his body to catch the ball. To me Bowe was doing the exact same thing in his 2nd and 3rd year so just think, in a year or two we could have not just one but two stud receivers!
Does anybody remember why Baldwin missed the beginning of the season? It had some thing to do with an injury to one of his hands, I think.

I wonder if he is still suffering from some of the lingering effects of a broken thumb and maybe he is not at full strength in that hand or maybe he is trying to avoid direct contact between the thumb and football. That's the only explanation I can see for some of those drops.

I broke my thumb in 1982 and it took a long time before I had full gripping strength in that hand. I needed surgery because the break was right at a joint so I don't know if his injury is comparable to mine or not. But hopefully as his hand continues to heal, the drops will be fewer and farther between.

figcrostic
11-01-2011, 04:39 PM
Does anybody remember why Baldwin missed the beginning of the season? It had some thing to do with an injury to one of his hands, I think.

I wonder if he is still suffering from some of the lingering effects of a broken thumb and maybe he is not at full strength in that hand or maybe he is trying to avoid direct contact between the thumb and football. That's the only explanation I can see for some of those drops.

I broke my thumb in 1982 and it took a long time before I had full gripping strength in that hand. I needed surgery because the break was right at a joint so I don't know if his injury is comparable to mine or not. But hopefully as his hand continues to heal, the drops will be fewer and farther between.

That's a good point. I was trying to crap on the guy I know he's a rookie just wondered why he dropped them when they were right in his hands

kcvet
11-01-2011, 06:54 PM
that TD Baldwin caught was a beauty. he's just a rook. he'll fit in

http://prod.static.chiefs.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/clubimages/2011/11-November/004--nfl_medium_540_360.jpg

2010chiefs
11-01-2011, 10:10 PM
I'm a big fan of Baldwin after that game. Sure he missed some passes but his potential outweighs the drops. He's a HUGE receiver that got open over and over again. It's his first real game he's played in and made an amazing catch. That catch won the game for us too. I'm excited to see him progress. What a trio of receivers we'll have. WATCH OUT!

chief31
11-01-2011, 10:45 PM
I'm a big fan of Baldwin after that game. Sure he missed some passes but his potential outweighs the drops. He's a HUGE receiver that got open over and over again. It's his first real game he's played in and made an amazing catch. That catch won the game for us too. I'm excited to see him progress. What a trio of receivers we'll have. WATCH OUT!

Agreed. He made some other nice receptions too.

While he did get into a rut of dropping passes, it is very, very early for him.

I am expecting good things in the future.