CHIEFS vs Donkeys game thread [Archive] - Kansas City Chiefs Forums

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:04 PM

last season i remember a very bitter blow out defeat at mile high that id love to see some revenge taken for today. apparently all that junk time points they got in the second half happened to light a fire under Cassel's rear end to become a much better passer and played comparatively brilliant in the second half of the season. Im not so confident the same stroke of brilliance was achieved after last weeks loss, im just hoping that we dont get trampled by the run game like we did last year. itll be one of the more highlighted games of the season so far being that we're up against tebow the media saint.

lets pound em and give the head lines something fun to write about.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:05 PM

Cassel getting the 1st down running hes been doing that alot lately

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:06 PM

Looking ugly on offense AGAIN

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:06 PM

no feeds here working on my end yet. anyone else have any successful feeds?

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:08 PM

2nd and 29, so we run the ball......

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:08 PM

I see last weeks offense is here to start the game again today

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:10 PM

hopefully the good defense shows up for the game today from the looks of that 1st drive they are going to be needed big time

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:14 PM

Looks like last weeks team is back

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:15 PM

This run defense is a joke

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:16 PM

Spottin' 'em a lead, I see.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:16 PM

sounds like it might be for the best that i cant find a stream of this game.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:18 PM

oh here we go finally. just in time to watch broncos TD. if i were at arrowhead id be rioting.

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:18 PM

hahaha WOW they did not throw one pass on this drive

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:18 PM

might want to turn this off now looks like the same team that showed up last week is back

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:19 PM

52 yards, and 7 points on zero passing attempts.

PawnshopMarimba

11-13-2011, 01:19 PM

I've yet to find one either.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:19 PM

holy crap not a single pass play? did the word get out that our run D sucks because we cant tackle for ****?

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:20 PM

I've yet to find one either.

firstrowsports.eu the stream on link 1 seems to work. if you have a script blocker make sure you allow the streaming scripts for it to work.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:22 PM

It's amazing we don't make them beat us with tebow throwing

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:23 PM

ok - getting some work done on offense this drive. feeling slightly more encouraged.

PawnshopMarimba

11-13-2011, 01:25 PM

firstrowsports.eu the stream on link 1 seems to work. if you have a script blocker make sure you allow the streaming scripts for it to work.

Ive been trying to get that one to work. Disabled adblock plus and it's working now THANKS

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:25 PM

That play is all on breaston Cassel did his job there

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:25 PM

If the Broncos score on this drive we could be in trouble

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:26 PM

more drops - thats inexcusable. that was a good throw by cassel. thats what killed our momentum last game. drops. do we need to do the portapottie drill again?

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:26 PM

That play is all on breaston Cassel did his job there

Pretty much the story of the season.

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:29 PM

more drops - thats inexcusable. that was a good throw by cassel. thats what killed our momentum last game. drops. do we need to do the portapottie drill again?

Dropped passes, blocking penalties, run plays on 2nd & 20+ and terrible pass protection.

Same old story, so far, today.

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:30 PM

Can't stop Moreno. Wow this is bad

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:30 PM

Well now that we took out anther rb maybe the d can get it together. We can stop anyone right now

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:31 PM

****ing same **** as last year. letting moreno walk all over us for fks sake. cant beat him, injure him??? sad. we cant be superbowl contenders by hoping for opportune injuries help us out.

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:31 PM

No need for The Broncos to ever throw the ball.

SIC J

11-13-2011, 01:31 PM

Seriously! The Chiefs are playing against the pass. Why the hell would you fear Tebow passing the ball? LOL. Stack the damn line and stop the run. FORCE Tebow to throw the ball!

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:32 PM

Seriously! The Chiefs are playing against the pass. Why the hell would you fear Tebow passing the ball? LOL. Stack the damn line and stop the run. FORCE Tebow to throw the ball!

THIS

you would think we would have that gameplan going into this game

spiman

11-13-2011, 01:34 PM

Were losing to a college team-The option c'mon

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:34 PM

0 Passing attempts, 110 yards of offense.

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:35 PM

It's still early, but still, we need a stop on this drive..

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:38 PM

holy crap that was close, but now carrs down? ****ing god damnit.

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:39 PM

I hope Carr's okay. It doesn't look too bad

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:40 PM

FINALY We make a stop it's about darn time

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:40 PM

omfg a ****ing stop! thank god!

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:41 PM

Good stop

NKChiefs

11-13-2011, 01:42 PM

Finally a stop..... And then step up on O Now....

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:43 PM

This protection is horrible

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:43 PM

nope. nothings changed at all. no ability to even recognize a very obvious blitz and adjust. ****ing pathetic.

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:44 PM

Terrible offense

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:44 PM

And 3 and out we look like a last place team right now.

SIC J

11-13-2011, 01:45 PM

Chiefs NEED a turnover!

#58ChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 01:45 PM

Bill Muir and Dexter McCluster have to go

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:45 PM

Yes we do look like a last place team

NKChiefs

11-13-2011, 01:46 PM

They only have 2 gears - sixth gear - and full speed reverse... amazing they can look so bad.

dietsch

11-13-2011, 01:47 PM

Bill Muir and Dexter McCluster have to go

McCluster doesn't have to go, but he definitely shouldn't be getting running plays called for him consistently.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:47 PM

Letting lance ball get runs against us now.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:48 PM

i cant even imagine how many touch downs denver would have right now if moreno or mcgahee were int he game at this point if backup back up backup RB's are owning us.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:48 PM

mccluster is a good player and a good asset - we just dont know how to fking use him properly. if he were on a team that could actually block, hed be a superstar in the league im thinking.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:51 PM

demoralized and manhandled.

chief31

11-13-2011, 01:51 PM

130 yards rushing, 0 yards passing.

dietsch

11-13-2011, 01:52 PM

we are making the broncos running attack look like the shannahan days where they could plug in any back and make them look all pro.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:53 PM

We just let lance ball drive them to a field goal we dont deserve to win

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 01:54 PM

Offense gotta help out the defense

AkChief49

11-13-2011, 01:55 PM

defense knows what is coming and still cannot stop it evidently.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 01:56 PM

if we cant answer here, this game's over. unless the broncos somehow fold in the second half... but either way at this rate we dont deserve to even be playing in this stadium.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:57 PM

WOW a 1st down

AkChief49

11-13-2011, 01:58 PM

Donks are chewing some clock with this running game. I agree, we answer here or might as well put in Stanzi.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 01:59 PM

And time to punt again

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:00 PM

completely pathetic. again we're the away team here.

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 02:00 PM

Just can't do nothing on offense..

chief31

11-13-2011, 02:02 PM

Running play....:lol:

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:06 PM

terrible special teams blocking once again. Arenas must be livid. maybe we're truly quite a bunch of wet p*****s out there on the field afterall?

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:06 PM

holy crap - need a replay of that from baldwin.

edit: ****ing crist. our one good play of the game comes back on a bull**** penalty. **** that crap i hate this game right now.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:07 PM

GO back to baldwin

dietsch

11-13-2011, 02:08 PM

got to be kidding me...such a stupid penalty.

chief31

11-13-2011, 02:08 PM

Never have understood how a five yard penalty offsets a 25 yard penalty.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:08 PM

cassel. how do you over throw bowe 5 yards out? hes ****ing 6'2

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:10 PM

no blocking, no holes for the run game.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:10 PM

Never have understood how a five yard penalty offsets a 25 yard penalty.

Never understood that either

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:13 PM

another dropped pass. back to basics *****es.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:14 PM

Bowe is so tough to root for sometime he can make great catches and have monstor games then he can drop easy ones and just not do anything in games.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:15 PM

this has officially become an emergency epidemic of failure. heads should be close to rolling for this crap. also my streams so angry at how piss poor this display is that its decided to no longer function

AkChief49

11-13-2011, 02:16 PM

3 sacks already!!

chief31

11-13-2011, 02:19 PM

169 yards rushing, 0 passing.

spiman

11-13-2011, 02:21 PM

:whipping1: We get'n T-Bowed

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 02:23 PM

This offense better wake up

SIC J

11-13-2011, 02:24 PM

Only 10 points down. Tebow sucks at passing. Contain the run and Chiefs can win the game. But the receiver HAVE TO CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!

NKChiefs

11-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Only 10 points down. Tebow sucks at passing. Contain the run and Chiefs can win the game. But the receiver HAVE TO CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!

Amen....

AkChief49

11-13-2011, 02:30 PM

Only 10 points down. Tebow sucks at passing. Contain the run and Chiefs can win the game. But the receiver HAVE TO CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!
We have not been able to contain some no name runner when it is obvious what their game plan is.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:30 PM

Only 10 points down. Tebow sucks at passing. Contain the run and Chiefs can win the game. But the receiver HAVE TO CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!

Yep still winable but if we play like we did in the 1st half we don't deserve to win.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:31 PM

Only 10 points down. Tebow sucks at passing. Contain the run and Chiefs can win the game. But the receiver HAVE TO CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!

you say that like we're efficient or even capable of scoring lately. 10 points? might as well be asking for 100 with this offense playing the way it is.

chief31

11-13-2011, 02:32 PM

The pass protection, these past two weeks, is as bad as it has ever been.

I praised the improvements, and they had to show me how wrong I was.

Brandon Albert is just terrible as a LOT.

This is his fourth season, and he is every bit as out of position as he was from day 1.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:39 PM

Oh look we played the run on that 3rd down and got a stop. WOW shocking.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:40 PM

im glad we had a stop (finally) but im getting so angry at how pathetic our punt blocking has become. we're wasting arenas' runback abilities by never giving him any space to even pick up speed.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:42 PM

Battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:42 PM

yes! battle showing us some life!

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:44 PM

We should get the ball back the knee was down

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:45 PM

challenge this - then again last week mccluster was clearly down but still was ruled fumble even after review!

SIC J

11-13-2011, 02:46 PM

Waste of a challenge. He was CLEARLY down. But he was in the the Charger game too and we saw what happened there.......

#58ChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 02:46 PM

Dexter sucks

He has more turnovers than anyone that is not a quarterback in the league.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:47 PM

Thank you

spiman

11-13-2011, 02:48 PM

Down They got it right

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:48 PM

ugh jones, really? two carries, about 2 yards for him on the day.

chief31

11-13-2011, 02:49 PM

ugh jones, really? two carries, about 2 yards for him on the day.

Well, make it three carries, for one yard...

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:50 PM

Come on get 6 don't settle for 3

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:50 PM

Dexter sucks

He has more turnovers than anyone that is not a quarterback in the league.

no he doesnt. he just loses the ball on the ground a lot. refs seem to be incapable of being able to call those types of plays in real time accurately anymore.

dietsch

11-13-2011, 02:50 PM

this is how we need to use McCluster...not trying to run it between the tackles

nice play action...TOUCHDOWN!!!!

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:51 PM

WOW that faked me out

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:51 PM

a fake so good it faked the camera man out! ok thats what i like to see!!!!!!!!

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 02:52 PM

Best. Fake. Ever

spiman

11-13-2011, 02:52 PM

Sweet!!

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:53 PM

a fake so good it faked the camera man out! ok thats what i like to see!!!!!!!!

I thought battle fumbled when the camera moved lol It faked me out bad

iratefan

11-13-2011, 02:55 PM

this is how we need to use McCluster...not trying to run it between the tackles

nice play action...TOUCHDOWN!!!!

yes i agree! hes fast, get him in a position to have some open field! none of that running up the gut nonsense. thats what battle is for!

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 02:56 PM

I thought battle fumbled when the camera moved lol It faked me out bad

Same here :)

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:56 PM

Good job d 3 AND OUT

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 02:56 PM

Time to take the lead now!!

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 02:57 PM

Come on offense build on that last drive

dietsch

11-13-2011, 03:00 PM

lets go chiefs...we can't lose to a team that has not completed a pass

Yoda

11-13-2011, 03:03 PM

I feel your pain

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 03:03 PM

Once again the d can't put back to back drives together

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:04 PM

sorry cassel, mccluster isnt bowe or baldwin. he cant overextend to make those overthrows catchable. speaking of which. since bowe's drop, the triple B receivers have been a non-factor in this game. awful waste of some good weapons.

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:04 PM

If we keep making stops on defense its only a matter of time before we tie or take the lead

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:06 PM

that was some very poor screen protection from the D.

spiman

11-13-2011, 03:08 PM

He allways spins

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:09 PM

god this stream is awful, audio is constant but video is frozen more often than not. cant see the plays.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 03:09 PM

tebow just can't throw the ball

dietsch

11-13-2011, 03:11 PM

god this stream is awful, audio is constant but video is frozen more often than not. cant see the plays.

are you using firstrowsports.tv?

it's fine for me

$&@# i jinxed it, not working anymore

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:14 PM

ok a first down! aaand down goes my feed. :(

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:15 PM

theyre gettin going now :D

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 03:16 PM

Cassel got lucky there

dietsch

11-13-2011, 03:17 PM

http://kcchiefsradio.com/ListenLive/tabid/557/Default.aspx

heres something we can at least listen to until we find a feed that we can watch

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:18 PM

ugh - punt? really? having to follow along to espn's gamecast now :(

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:22 PM

come on D!!!

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:24 PM

2 more

chief31

11-13-2011, 03:24 PM

237 yards rushing.... 13 passing

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:24 PM

There we go!!! 1 more stop now!

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:25 PM

woot! make em punt again. we still need a score! still losing! geez.

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:25 PM

nice, -5 yards

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:26 PM

oh my ****ing god.

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:26 PM

http://chan.catiewayne.com/b/src/130869324344.png

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 03:26 PM

well we deserve this loss

spiman

11-13-2011, 03:27 PM

REally This guy beats us FRAK

AkChief49

11-13-2011, 03:27 PM

I'm done.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:28 PM

being a chiefs fan is like being a ****ing masochist. i dont know why any of us even exist still.

dietsch

11-13-2011, 03:29 PM

for anyone that cares, the firstrowsports.tv stream is back up.

SIC J

11-13-2011, 03:30 PM

Why is Langford even playing?

spiman

11-13-2011, 03:30 PM

being a chiefs fan is like being a ****ing masochist. i dont know why any of us even exist still.
:toast2: :drunkhb: :SmokinBanana: Helps

Yoda

11-13-2011, 03:31 PM

REally This guy beats us FRAK

I still can't get over my Raiders loosing to him and the Donks!

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:31 PM

I guess if we get a quick TD (not seeing it) we can then stop Denver (not seeing it either) and then get a FG to tie

SIC J

11-13-2011, 03:32 PM

Tebow isn't beating the Chiefs. He is bound to hit a pass eventually. What is beating the Chiefs is dropped passes, penalties, and the inability to stop the run.

Oh and the lack of pass protection.

dietsch

11-13-2011, 03:34 PM

Tebow isn't beating the Chiefs. He is bound to hit a pass eventually. What is beating the Chiefs is dropped passes, penalties, and the inability to stop the run.

and lack of protection

SIC J

11-13-2011, 03:34 PM

and lack of protection

And I edited my post and put that in. Haha

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:35 PM

refs give us a gift. that wasnt a penalty, i agree.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:38 PM

cassel doing his ridiculous overthrowing again. shoulda did 4 down territory earlier in the game.

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 03:38 PM

Well, it's over.

KCraised

11-13-2011, 03:38 PM

Well, time to go wash the car early, thanks to the Chefs

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 03:39 PM

This offense is awful. Can't block a pass rush. When they can, Cassel can't get off an accurate pass. And when he does, the WRs drop it. **** this

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:40 PM

This offense is awful. Can't block a pass rush. When they can, Cassel can't get off an accurate pass. And when he does, the WRs drop it. **** this

basically this. these ****ers get paid so much money too!!!!

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:42 PM

The worst part is when you have hope for them winning, and then this happens

KCraised

11-13-2011, 03:42 PM

Let's see, at New England next week? ****.......

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:44 PM

Jesus, now dorsey is badly injured

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:45 PM

Let's see, at New England next week? ****.......

Then Steelers and Packers a few weeks later:beat_DeadHorse:

dietsch

11-13-2011, 03:45 PM

Let's see, at New England next week? ****.......

we're looking at 4-10 after the next 5 games.

pats
steelers
bears
jets
packers

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:47 PM

we're looking at 4-10 after the next 5 games.

pats
steelers
bears
jets
packers

And a few weeks ago even only 1 game out of those seemed that winnable.

KCraised

11-13-2011, 03:48 PM

We think it's been bad to this point of the season? God, this is gonna be horrific. But just watch, we will whip all of thier a**es, just like the history of Kansas City sports teams. We seem to play to the level of the teams we play.

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:49 PM

Accurate pass = drop

KCraised

11-13-2011, 03:49 PM

Cassel throws behind him and acts all disgusted. Throw the damned thing in stride, idiot!

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:51 PM

and that is it

dietsch

11-13-2011, 03:51 PM

WTF, you cannot take a sack in that situation...you've got to be kidding me I don't care what you do, throw it up...do something!

loyalchief91

11-13-2011, 03:51 PM

Worst team in the NFL after the Colts

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 03:52 PM

Accurate pass = drop

The pass was thrown behind him. Should have been caught, yes. But when wide receivers continually are having to make adjustments to ****ty throws, it's a big reason so many passes are dropped.

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:52 PM

WTF, you cannot take a sack in that situation...you've got to be kidding me I don't care what you do, throw it up...do something!

Exactly

KCraised

11-13-2011, 03:52 PM

The Guns n Roses concert was over at 2 in the morning lastnight and woke uo with a hangover to watch this mess. Depressing...

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:52 PM

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:53 PM

The pass was thrown behind him. Should have been caught, yes. But when wide receivers continually are having to make adjustments to ****ty throws, it's a big reason so many passes are dropped.

True. But there still shouldn't be this many drops

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:54 PM

We really need Charles and Berry more than ever

KCraised

11-13-2011, 03:55 PM

Im starting to think Cassel has alittle bit of Phillip Rivers "blame game" in him. Hate to see that.

AussieChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 03:57 PM

and now i needa get ready for school

GarH

11-13-2011, 03:57 PM

An NFL caliber WR should catch that ball. No excuse for that.

KCraised

11-13-2011, 03:58 PM

completely impotent offense. i cant wait to see the slaughter we're about to endure going into the next string of games against 'real' teams. hopefully it proves just how bad we really are in a way that will force us to make some _real_ changes.

Careful, careful. I made this statement earlier in the season and about got my head cut off..but youre right.

iratefan

11-13-2011, 03:59 PM

Im starting to think Cassel has alittle bit of Phillip Rivers "blame game" in him. Hate to see that.

umm... yeah... probably. but cassel still is no phillip rivers.

nice to see palko in here. i think id have liked to see him about 2 drives ago. at least palko can throw a pass on the numbers.

KCraised

11-13-2011, 04:01 PM

13/28 for 93 yds 0 TDs...not bad, matt. Not bad at all

iratefan

11-13-2011, 04:01 PM

why field goal here? is this a practice drill? is this a kicker stat builder? let the kid take one to the endzone if he can. wtf?!

KCraised

11-13-2011, 04:03 PM

Wish Palko would've got in the endzone. Let's start alittle QB controversy

iratefan

11-13-2011, 04:04 PM

Wish Palko would've got in the endzone. Let's start alittle QB controversy

this is what im sayin - though it appears the chiefs are still trying to win?!?

KCraised

11-13-2011, 04:05 PM

Another absolutely scary thing is 54 rushes to 8 passes. They KNEW the rush was coming and couldnt stop it. Inexcusable.

spiman

11-13-2011, 04:05 PM

I borrowed this.. We got T_BONED:whipping1:

dietsch

11-13-2011, 04:06 PM

umm... yeah... probably. but cassel still is no phillip rivers.

nice to see palko in here. i think id have liked to see him about 2 drives ago. at least palko can throw a pass on the numbers.

they're playing a prevent defense so unfortunately we can't judge palko on that although I think Haley should insinuate Cassel's job is not safe to light a fire under his a$$

iratefan

11-13-2011, 04:07 PM

they're playing a prevent defense so unfortunately we can't judge palko on that although I think Haley should insinuate Cassel's job is not safe to light a fire under his a$$

yeah i am aware of that - im wondering if cassel hurt his hand or they just didnt want him injured/beat up anymore, or if cassel told haley im not getting behind that trainwreck of an o-line again. who knows. i want to see another cassel-haley fight.

KCraised

11-13-2011, 04:09 PM

I borrowed this.. We got T_BONED:whipping1:

Don't forget to return it or we will consider it stolen;-D

spiman

11-13-2011, 04:09 PM

Careful, careful. I made this statement earlier in the season and about got my head cut off..but youre right. What not enough smart people in here anymore? Umm:sign0087: Time for the big burn...:SmokinBanana: :SmokinBanana:

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 04:09 PM

After Cassel's last 3 games, there's no reason he should have a job. Absolutely pathetic. If you want to blame the line, go ahead, but Cassel's pocket presence is non-existent.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 04:14 PM

After Cassel's last 3 games, there's no reason he should have a job. Absolutely pathetic. If you want to blame the line, go ahead, but Cassel's pocket presence is non-existent.

Cassel isn't the problem he can't catch the ball for the WRS they might not be perfect throws or even good throws sometimes but a NFL wr should still CATCH THE BALL. Cassel is one that i am least upset with. The head coach is who tops my s*** list right now

H-townChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 04:15 PM

After Cassel's last 3 games, there's no reason he should have a job. Absolutely pathetic. If you want to blame the line, go ahead, but Cassel's pocket presence is non-existent.

Totally agree!! When will people stop giving him credit for taking the partiots to an 11-5 record (or whatever it was)??

This guy needs to go. Badly.

70 chiefsfan70

11-13-2011, 04:15 PM

13/28 for 93 yds 0 TDs...not bad, matt. Not bad at all

I'm not a big Cassel fan either but I'm thinking those numbers are false........just saying

kcvet

11-13-2011, 04:16 PM

I went to home depot at half time. I could smell it coming

H-townChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 04:17 PM

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 04:19 PM

Cassel isn't the problem he can't catch the ball for the WRS they might not be perfect throws or even good throws sometimes but a NFL wr should still CATCH THE BALL. Cassel is one that i am least upset with. The head coach is who tops my s*** list right now

When every throw is consistently off the mark, what's a WR to do?

I'm not excusing the wide receivers, they should catch the ball regardless, but a more accurate QB would definitely make their lives easier.

Yoda

11-13-2011, 04:20 PM

Let's see, at New England next week? ****.......

Yes......

GarH

11-13-2011, 04:21 PM

When your WRs drop everything thrown to them, the completion rate isn't going to be very good. I'm not saying he's a pro bowl QB but he's not as bad as our excuse for WRs make him look.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 04:21 PM

Serious question: what is it going to take for you to finally give up on Cassel??

When he is CLEARLY the thing holding the offense back. He's not the only thing wrong. He's gotten some first downs with his legs the past few weeks. He's done some good. He's done some bad. But our WRs should not be bailed out because the throws are not perfect. They get paid to Catch the ball. When they drop the ball Cassel can't do anything about it. If the WRs can't catch it doesn't matter who the qb is. Something our so called head coach is suppose to be good at coaching WRs. Haley to me right now is more of a problem then Cassel

70 chiefsfan70

11-13-2011, 04:29 PM

Totally agree!! When will people stop giving him credit for taking the partiots to an 11-5 record (or whatever it was)??

This guy needs to go. Badly.

And even with the Pats great OLine he still was the most sacked QB of the year.

A good Oline won't fix what whats wrong with this guy. These Receivers were wide open all day,sure they dropped passes but most that they dropped were very poorly thrown.

Its funny how the same people who criticize Tebow worship Cassel.............lets compare numbers and the strength of the Olines.

Please Santa for Christmas I want a new head coach and QB. oohh and a anchor NT.

H-townChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 04:36 PM

When he is CLEARLY the thing holding the offense back. He's not the only thing wrong. He's gotten some first downs with his legs the past few weeks. He's done some good. He's done some bad. But our WRs should not be bailed out because the throws are not perfect. They get paid to Catch the ball. When they drop the ball Cassel can't do anything about it. If the WRs can't catch it doesn't matter who the qb is. Something our so called head coach is suppose to be good at coaching WRs. Haley to me right now is more of a problem then Cassel

I respect your stance on the issue, I just dont agree with it. I dont see anything that Cassel does could not be done by say...Jamarcus Russel or even Donavan McNabb. Seriously, Cassel rerly ever makes a big play when we need it. If the performance continues like this, I will be seriously PO'ed if they dont cut Cassel flat out after this season. If they can even get a 7th rounder for him, they should and I will be happy with it. NOBODY will take the rediculous contract he has though...not even the Raiders :)
Not saying it is always the case and yes, there are sometimes some good QBs that slip through the cracks...but the guy wasnt even a starter in college. That at the very least is more evidence against the guy.

#58ChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 04:41 PM

Cassel has a front loaded contract, I dont think it would be that hard to deal him.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 04:46 PM

I respect your stance on the issue, I just dont agree with it. I dont see anything that Cassel does could not be done by say...Jamarcus Russel or even Donavan McNabb. Seriously, Cassel rerly ever makes a big play when we need it. If the performance continues like this, I will be seriously PO'ed if they dont cut Cassel flat out after this season. If they can even get a 7th rounder for him, they should and I will be happy with it. NOBODY will take the rediculous contract he has though...not even the Raiders :)
Not saying it is always the case and yes, there are sometimes some good QBs that slip through the cracks...but the guy wasnt even a starter in college. That at the very least is more evidence against the guy.

I don't think he's Russel bad

And I understand the being upset with him. I am not thrilled with him right now. I will alway defend the qb a bit when things go wrong like they did today. I just fell it's a tad unfair to say Cassel was horrible and not the offense was.

That being said If a change was made you would not see me complain. In fact I talked about it after the first two weeks. But Cassel is not the biggest problem imo the guy in charge wearing the headset is. He's the 1st person on my s*** list right now.

H-townChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 04:52 PM

gotcha. I agree that Cassel is not the only problem on the offense...lots of bad play all the way around. I also agree that many people like to blame the QB when things go awry.

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 04:54 PM

I will say, they had no problems moving the ball on the ground...ever. And they just wouldn't commit to it.

KCraised

11-13-2011, 05:00 PM

Cassel isn't the problem he can't catch the ball for the WRS they might not be perfect throws or even good throws sometimes but a NFL wr should still CATCH THE BALL. Cassel is one that i am least upset with. The head coach is who tops my s*** list right now

Well, there really isn't any excuse not to make the catch but i thought it was interesting when I was watching GB play in last week or two and they were pounding thier competition, as usual, and one of the ex nfl commentators was saying that alot of the success of catching everything rodgers threw was due to the reciever's trust in Rodger's ball placement because he never puts his recievers in harms way, to have thier heads taken off by a secondary, so they catch thier ball with confidence. I personally would be scared sh**less to catch one of his unpredictable decisions. Maybe they lack the confidence due to his inaccuracy and they have a high probability of leaving the field on a backboard? Just a thought....

KCraised

11-13-2011, 05:07 PM

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 05:13 PM

Well, there really isn't any excuse not to make the catch but i thought it was interesting when I was watching GB play in last week or two and they were pounding thier competition, as usual, and one of the ex nfl commentators was saying that alot of the success of catching everything rodgers threw was due to the reciever's trust in Rodger's ball placement because he never puts his recievers in harms way, to have thier heads taken off by a secondary, so they catch thier ball with confidence. I personally would be scared sh**less to catch one of his unpredictable decisions. Maybe they lack the confidence due to his inaccuracy and they have a high probability of leaving the field on a backboard? Just a thought....

That's possible. But I will say again the NFL WRs get paid to catch the ball. They have not been great either. For whatever the reason.

I can't say that if a change would be made it would get better I can't say that it wouldn't get better. What I can say is they are not doing there job either. And they need to be held accountable just like Cassel.

And I won't complain one bit if they change qbs. But lets not pretend that Cassel is the sole thing holding the offense back. He is part of it. But he's not alone in that.

KCraised

11-13-2011, 05:29 PM

OPLookn

11-13-2011, 05:53 PM

That's possible. But I will say again the NFL WRs get paid to catch the ball. They have not been great either. For whatever the reason.

I can't say that if a change would be made it would get better I can't say that it wouldn't get better. What I can say is they are not doing there job either. And they need to be held accountable just like Cassel.

And I won't complain one bit if they change qbs. But lets not pretend that Cassel is the sole thing holding the offense back. He is part of it. But he's not alone in that.

I will agree that Cassel isn't the sole thing holding back this offense but he is a MAJOR part of it. I just got back from actually being at the game and watching it. Tailgating was awesome, the game, not so much. Cassel was inaccurate and that's the best I have to say about him. When the biggest play past the TD was Baldwin catching an under thrown pass with his hands behind a defenders back....damn.

All game long I watched as every time Cassel threw the ball it was behind the receiver, over thrown, under thrown, thrown a million miles an hour when he could have put some air under it and let the receiver run into it. I swear I just about left when he threw the ball almost as hard as he could to a guy running across the middle and instead of lofting it up and letting his receiver run under it he guns it a yard in front of him.

A receiver does need to catch a ball thrown at him but he shouldn't have to contort his body or catch a bullet when it's not needed. I'm so frustrated with Cassel right now these are the best things I can say about him after watching that game.

As for the defense...seriously...I believe they had 0 yards passing going into the second half. Stack the freakin box and make them beat you with the pass. For cryin out loud a college scheme should not be able to beat a pro defense. Ridiculous!

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 05:59 PM

I will agree that Cassel isn't the sole thing holding back this offense but he is a MAJOR part of it. I just got back from actually being at the game and watching it. Tailgating was awesome, the game, not so much. Cassel was inaccurate and that's the best I have to say about him. When the biggest play past the TD was Baldwin catching an under thrown pass with his hands behind a defenders back....damn.

All game long I watched as every time Cassel threw the ball it was behind the receiver, over thrown, under thrown, thrown a million miles an hour when he could have put some air under it and let the receiver run into it. I swear I just about left when he threw the ball almost as hard as he could to a guy running across the middle and instead of lofting it up and letting his receiver run under it he guns it a yard in front of him.

A receiver does need to catch a ball thrown at him but he shouldn't have to contort his body or catch a bullet when it's not needed. I'm so frustrated with Cassel right now these are the best things I can say about him after watching that game.

As for the defense...seriously...I believe they had 0 yards passing going into the second half. Stack the freakin box and make them beat you with the pass. For cryin out loud a college scheme should not be able to beat a pro defense. Ridiculous!

Post of the year, spot on. Thanks.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 06:00 PM

As for the defense...seriously...I believe they had 0 yards passing going into the second half. Stack the freakin box and make them beat you with the pass. For cryin out loud a college scheme should not be able to beat a pro defense. Ridiculous!

This to me is the biggest and most frustrating thing about today. This goes on the coaching staff witch goes on the head coach. I lost faith in haley after last week didn't get any of it back today.

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 06:01 PM

This to me is the biggest and most frustrating thing about today. This goes on the coaching staff witch goes on the head coach. I lost faith in haley after last week didn't get any of it back today.

Yet they only gave up 17 points...

OPLookn

11-13-2011, 06:03 PM

Yet they only gave up 17 points...

I think that was just because they got tired of running the ball! I've never been in the end zone seating and saying wow, I can't tell exactly how many yards the RB or Tebow got but I know it was more than 5...oh he got 9 on first down? Yeah..ok, cool.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 06:05 PM

Yet they only gave up 17 points...

Denver controlled the clock and the game for the most part with Lance ball and Tim tebow doing the damage. That should tell you something.

OPLookn

11-13-2011, 06:08 PM

Denver controlled the clock and the game for the most part with Lance ball and Tim tebow doing the damage. That should tell you something.

Actually the first half we controlled the ball for the most part. I remember looking up with about 4 minutes left in the half because the guy sitting next to me (who I didn't know said you've got to be f'in kidding me). Lo and behold we'd had the ball the majority of the half. The second half belonged to the broncos.

I said it when Em put out his prediction of the week that if we controlled the run by stacking the box and made Tebow beat us with his arm we'd win. Instead 0 passing yards in the first half...freakin ZERO!!

Ryfo18

11-13-2011, 06:11 PM

Denver controlled the clock and the game for the most part with Lance ball and Tim tebow doing the damage. That should tell you something.

5 possessions in the first half...all punts. The offense went 6 quarters..YES 6 straight quarters without scoring a TD. But let's pin it on the D. Dude, get your head out of your ***, seriously.

OPLookn

11-13-2011, 06:13 PM

5 possessions in the first half...all punts. The offense went 6 quarters..YES 6 straight quarters without scoring a TD. But let's pin it on the D. Dude, get your head out of your ***, seriously.

My biggest question out of all that was how in the H*LL do you let the crowd get loud like they did (holy h*ll was it loud after the false start penalty!) and then let them throw it up over top for a TD? That was flat out embarrasing so yeah, some of it can be blamed on the D.

matthewschiefs

11-13-2011, 06:47 PM

5 possessions in the first half...all punts. The offense went 6 quarters..YES 6 straight quarters without scoring a TD. But let's pin it on the D. Dude, get your head out of your ***, seriously.

Really

And blameing Matt Cassel is perfectly sound logic.

I am not pinning this on the defense. I just refuse to say it's matt Cassels fault they lost. This is my exact thoughts on the loss.

Offense
Matt Cassel Can throw the ball better and he has to. No disagreement there. He was running for his life all day long but the qb has to make plays he didn't

The WRs Have to do a better job catching the ball. The throws might not be great but it's no excuse. They get paid to make tough catches.

O line Broken record has to play better. We have all been saying this all year.

Defense. Should not and can't let a 3rd string Rb and Tim tebow beat them. Like they did. Lance bell 3RD sting almost had 100 yards (96) NOT ACCEPTABLE. Tim Tebow had 43 rushing yards for a qb NOT ACCEPTABLE. They get blame for that as they should.

COACHING MY MAIN TARGET.
There is not reason for us not to stack up everything to stop the running game. When they can't complete a pass. Yet we didn't That goes on the coaching staff. When denver was making 0 effort in the throwing game the fact that we didn't load the box against the run is just STUPID. Coaching is the biggest reason we lost today. It's there job to put the game plan and put players in postion to win. They didn't on offense or defense.

And just because someone has a different opinion then yours doesn't mean they have there head up there a** just a thought.

H-townChiefsFan

11-13-2011, 11:05 PM

thrown a million miles an hour when he could have....

Yea, like the Miami game down on the 5 yard line in (I think) the 3rd quarter? It was a 4th and goal and he just threw a rocket at the reciever cutting across at the goal line. That was totally pathetic.

Chiefster

11-14-2011, 01:35 AM

AussieChiefsFan

11-14-2011, 01:57 AM

OPLookn

11-14-2011, 10:19 AM

I saw very little else Cassel could do in this game. He ran for his life, picked himself up off the turf all day long. WR's, again, missed key passes that hit them in the hands late in the game with the game on the line.

I don't know if being at the game made me see clearly or if the game on tv hides it better because they don't show the guys after the play. The receivers were having to make adjustments like crazy to catch the ball. Not to mention that Cassel threw some bullets at guys that needed to be lofted and lofted passes when they needed to be bullets. Saying that there was little else Cassel could do in this game is a gross understatement.

It was funny but not in a good way when Cassel see's a WR streaking down the sideline with a CB in tow and chucks the ball down field. I was watching from the end zone area and saw the Safety start drifting towards the receiver and the CB look back. My first thought was oh sh*t here we go again. Piss poor pass. Let's just say it was so bad that even the defenders over ran the ball. After the play they looked at each other and seemed to visibly shrug like...well hey if the QB can't throw the pass accurate and let us pick it off at least we don't even have to do our jobs. That's just a singular instance. Not only was the pass under thrown, it was thrown into double coverage that was ALL over the WR.

But that's probably the WR or O-Line's fault too. Before you answer the question, no, Cassel wasn't being hurried, chased or had anyone close to him. He was just standing in the pocket.

Chiefster

11-14-2011, 12:20 PM

I don't know if being at the game made me see clearly or if the game on tv hides it better because they don't show the guys after the play. The receivers were having to make adjustments like crazy to catch the ball. Not to mention that Cassel threw some bullets at guys that needed to be lofted and lofted passes when they needed to be bullets. Saying that there was little else Cassel could do in this game is a gross understatement.

It was funny but not in a good way when Cassel see's a WR streaking down the sideline with a CB in tow and chucks the ball down field. I was watching from the end zone area and saw the Safety start drifting towards the receiver and the CB look back. My first thought was oh sh*t here we go again. Piss poor pass. Let's just say it was so bad that even the defenders over ran the ball. After the play they looked at each other and seemed to visibly shrug like...well hey if the QB can't throw the pass accurate and let us pick it off at least we don't even have to do our jobs. That's just a singular instance. Not only was the pass under thrown, it was thrown into double coverage that was ALL over the WR.

But that's probably the WR or O-Line's fault too. Before you answer the question, no, Cassel wasn't being hurried, chased or had anyone close to him. He was just standing in the pocket.

I didn't say Cassel was perfect or didn't make mistakes. I'm referring to the instances were it was clearly obvious even, especially on replay, that the ball hit the WRs in the hands and they dropped it at key junctions in the game. But, you are correct particularly regarding that singular instance.

OPLookn

11-14-2011, 12:40 PM

I didn't say Cassel was perfect or didn't make mistakes. I'm referring to the instances were it was clearly obvious even, especially on replay, that the ball hit the WRs in the hands and they dropped it at key junctions in the game. But, you are correct particularly regarding that singular instance.

If it was a singular instance I'd be more forgiving but it's happened more than just once.

Chiefster

11-14-2011, 01:01 PM

If it was a singular instance I'd be more forgiving but it's happened more than just once.

True; so has the dropped passes; multiple times.

matthewschiefs

11-14-2011, 01:21 PM

I saw very little else Cassel could do in this game. He ran for his life, picked himself up off the turf all day long. WR's, again, missed key passes that hit them in the hands late in the game with the game on the line.

THIS

It wasn't that Cassel was bad it wasn't that the WRs were bad it wasn't that the oline was bad. It was the OFFENSE was bad. Each and everyone one of those areas are part of that.