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figcrostic
12-18-2011, 08:21 PM
On the game: “That was a good football team we beat. The coaches put together a good game plan for us. Everybody on offense, everybody on the team did their job. They didn’t try to do too much. We beat a really good football team.”

Did you have an advantage having faced this team already this season? “It is always better to be able to see a team twice. Having said that they beat me the first time. That’s a good football team. They have a great chance to win the Super Bowl. We are happy we played together as a team. Our coaches coached great and we got a big win.”

Where does this game rank in your career? “This about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field. You go through practice and all that stuff but your teammates don’t really know you until you get in that huddle. That’s a special time for me, inside the huddle. I kind of turn into [another] person. I think everybody took it well. We had a lot of fun and battled together.”

Before scoring the touchdown, was it frustrating having only field goals on previous trips to the Red Zone? “We just kept on pressing. We kept on pushing and kept on fighting. Obviously, when you are playing an offense on the other side, which is so prolific, you want to come away with touchdowns. We talked about it all week. They did a good job on their goal-line defense and we couldn’t punch it in. It’s a team win. We kicked field goals and special teams played outstanding and we made enough plays on offense.”

Did it help to be named the starter early in the week? “Yes, not only for me but for all my teammates too. No matter what, the quarterback has to lead the team through the week of practice and lead them into the game. I always try to be the most prepared guy on the field and go out a play well for my team.”

What did they ask you to do in the game? “I thought our tight ends showed up. I don’t know if [Coach] expected them to catch that many passes but they were open and did a great job. They made some big plays. [Leonard] Pope made a couple of really big plays for us. Anthony [Becht] on the naked we ran to get the touchdown was a huge play. I think everybody stepped up. It was a total team win. It wasn’t just one guy. It wasn’t just one coach. It was everybody fighting together for a win.”

How do you deal with moving around and the uncertainty of the future? “We play Oakland next week. That’s the only thing that you think about. We had so much to think about this week. We played a great team in the Packers and now we will go play a big rival in the Oakland Raiders and try to go get a win.”

Was this the most excited you have ever seen a locker room? “I’ve played in a Super Bowl so it’s hard to say. All teams are different, with different personalities and that’s the tough thing coming into a team late in the season; you haven’t had training camp, you haven’t had all those grueling practices to get to know the guys. They haven’t had those practices to get to know me so it was a crash course on the field. I thought everybody gelled together and played hard for each other and got the big win.”

What’s the key to keeping the ball for 36 minutes? “I think that was the key to the game. We talked about it all week. I thought we did a great job of having success on first down. We ran a bunch of second-and-three, second-and-four plays. We could throw play action, we could run the ball, we could take shots and we did them all. I thought Bill [Muir] called a great game, was aggressive and gave us a great chance to have success.”

okikcfan
12-18-2011, 08:44 PM
Thanks for the post Fig, I LIKE IT!!! These next two games should be better for Orton, I cant wait till next week!

josh1971
12-18-2011, 08:57 PM
"I thought Bill [Muir] called a great game, was aggressive and gave us a great chance to have success.”

Words never uttered before...

N TX Dave
12-18-2011, 10:18 PM
Words never uttered before...

That just proves that Haley's hand was in the play calling too much.

ctchiefsfan
12-19-2011, 01:17 AM
Big THANK YOU for that post Fig!

Hayvern
12-19-2011, 01:22 AM
That just proves that Haley's hand was in the play calling too much.

I agree, I think the same thing. I think this has been Haley screwing this team up for a while now.

AkChief49
12-19-2011, 07:50 PM
I agree, I think the same thing. I think this has been Haley screwing this team up for a while now.
It is looking that way. We were moving the ball, holding on to the ball for long, time consuming drives. Scored more than ten points. While firing a coach can be upsetting, this team went the other way. Very telling.
Sometimes you have to put a mad dog down. So long, old yeller!

#58ChiefsFan
12-19-2011, 08:04 PM
Don't underestimate what Orton did in the game yesterday. The next big test is coming Saturday.

2010chiefs
12-20-2011, 01:54 AM
Starter Next Year!

nigeriannightmare
12-20-2011, 09:52 AM
Words never uttered before...

May be that haley had the leash held really tight and maybe muir can call plays.

dbolan
12-20-2011, 10:27 AM
That just proves that Haley's hand was in the play calling too much.

Haley did not call the game when Orton was there. He was calling it for Palko. BIG difference.

Don't be so quick to choke him out.

dbolan
12-20-2011, 10:29 AM
May be that haley had the leash held really tight and maybe muir can call plays.


I find it quite coincidental that Haley gets canned the week before Orton gets another start.

Had Orton not been injured in his first game, all of you may be sniffing Haley's jock strap right about now.

nigeriannightmare
12-20-2011, 02:49 PM
I find it quite coincidental that Haley gets canned the week before Orton gets another start.

Had Orton not been injured in his first game, all of you may be sniffing Haley's jock strap right about now.

This is absurd. Haley had the opportunity to start orton before and after the chicago game. Carson palmer came in for an unproductive qb with no practice. Haley was making a choice to start palko who should have never been on this team.

By the by this was ortons first start and romeo said if he couldnt go it would be stanzi. I liked haley but it is apparent he was the problem.

dbolan
12-20-2011, 02:53 PM
This is absurd. Haley had the opportunity to start orton before and after the chicago game. Carson palmer came in for an unproductive qb with no practice. Haley was making a choice to start palko who should have never been on this team.

By the by this was ortons first start and romeo said if he couldnt go it would be stanzi. I liked haley but it is apparent he was the problem.

Palmer did not have an injured index finger on his throwing hand either...Jeeez!!

Prove that Haley had the chance to start him....You can't because you don;t know!

N TX Dave
12-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Palmer did not have an injured index finger on his throwing hand either...Jeeez!!

Prove that Haley had the chance to start him....You can't because you don;t know!

Well I will guarantee you Haley had a chance to start Stanzi and if Orton could not have started Romeo would have.

dbolan
12-20-2011, 03:04 PM
Well I will guarantee you Haley had a chance to start Stanzi and if Orton could not have started Romeo would have.

That still proves nothing! You do not know that Stanzi was or IS better...Haley seen him practice..lol

N TX Dave
12-20-2011, 03:09 PM
Haley did not call the game when Orton was there. He was calling it for Palko. BIG difference.

Don't be so quick to choke him out.

Don't be to quick to choke who out? But he was here for when Cassel was playing and calling plays and how many 3 and outs did he have? Only 3 things changed for this game than the other 14 games one HC, two QB and three the play calling you tell me the reason. I was agreeing with the original poster that Haley was apparently in the play calling to much either that or before the games he said this is what I want and that is the way it was called out of fear.

nigeriannightmare
12-20-2011, 03:58 PM
Palmer did not have an injured index finger on his throwing hand either...Jeeez!!

Prove that Haley had the chance to start him....You can't because you don;t know!

I have dislocated my finger before and shoulder and all be it very painful i continued to play i would imagine any number of nfl players in the nfl have done it. mine were to my throwing hand and shoulder. haley chose palko as a way to stand up to pioli.

N TX Dave
12-20-2011, 05:55 PM
I have dislocated my finger before and shoulder and all be it very painful i continued to play i would imagine any number of nfl players in the nfl have done it. mine were to my throwing hand and shoulder. haley chose palko as a way to stand up to pioli.

That is like cutting off you nose in spite of your face. I will show Pioli I am in charge I will play Palko and lose my job by god.

ctchiefsfan
12-20-2011, 06:12 PM
That is like cutting off you nose in spite of your face. I will show Pioli I am in charge I will play Palko and lose my job by god.

This scenario has been suggested many times. I must say I find it hard to believe.

N TX Dave
12-21-2011, 12:18 AM
This scenario has been suggested many times. I must say I find it hard to believe.

I was repling to "haley chose palko as a way to stand up to pioli."

ctchiefsfan
12-21-2011, 12:43 AM
I was repling to "haley chose palko as a way to stand up to pioli."

I understood that. I was agreeing with you.

2010chiefs
12-21-2011, 01:55 AM
Wait a minute. Do some you the think that Haley didn't do a bad job with our QB situation, even though the first game without him and without Palko was our best win of the year. Yes he had many chances to replace Palko with Stanzi and two games to replace Palko with Orton and he didn't do it. Stubborn reasons in my opinion. I don't care if Stanzi threw 10 interceptions in one game. At least we would know what he's capable of. The coach owes the fans at least that after Palko's horrible display. Look how bad Denver thought Tebow was and because of the fans they played him and now there in 1st place in the AFC west. Thankfully Romeo is our HC now and now I can look forward to the next two games unlike when Hailey was coach!

ctchiefsfan
12-21-2011, 02:25 AM
Wait a minute. Do some you the think that Haley didn't do a bad job with our QB situation, even though the first game without him and without Palko was our best win of the year. Yes he had many chances to replace Palko with Stanzi and two games to replace Palko with Orton and he didn't do it. Stubborn reasons in my opinion. I don't care if Stanzi threw 10 interceptions in one game. At least we would know what he's capable of. The coach owes the fans at least that after Palko's horrible display. Look how bad Denver thought Tebow was and because of the fans they played him and now there in 1st place in the AFC west. Thankfully Romeo is our HC now and now I can look forward to the next two games unlike when Hailey was coach!

I don't think any of us will ever know why Haley stuck with Palko.

And I don't think there are any "Haley defenders" left here. Including myself.

But do I think Haley deliberately got himself fired by defying Pioli and playing that moron Palko week in and week out just to F*** with Pioli? No. They ain't never made anybody that stupid yet.

N TX Dave
12-21-2011, 04:53 AM
I don't think any of us will ever know why Haley stuck with Palko.

And I don't think there are any "Haley defenders" left here. Including myself.

But do I think Haley deliberately got himself fired by defying Pioli and playing that moron Palko week in and week out just to F*** with Pioli? No. They ain't never made anybody that stupid yet.

There are exceptions, Haley may have been that pizzed to do just that because he knew after the first half of the season that he was going to be shown the door after the season was over no matter what. He might have flipped out and that was his way at getting back at Pioli who knows why he did it no one in here and the only ones that do will never let us know it.

dbolan
12-21-2011, 10:20 AM
I have dislocated my finger before and shoulder and all be it very painful i continued to play i would imagine any number of nfl players in the nfl have done it. mine were to my throwing hand and shoulder. haley chose palko as a way to stand up to pioli.


To what degree was your shoulder and finger separation? I have had a second and third degree shoulder separations and I can tell you one thing for sure...I darn sure wasn't throwing a football afterwards and could barely use that arm to do anything.

Again, NONE of us know the the detailed medical facts so to assume that Haley did not want to start Orton just to buck up to Pioli is absurd.

TopekaRoy
12-21-2011, 01:26 PM
To what degree was your shoulder and finger separation? I have had a second and third degree shoulder separations and I can tell you one thing for sure...I darn sure wasn't throwing a football afterwards and could barely use that arm to do anything.

Again, NONE of us know the the detailed medical facts so to assume that Haley did not want to start Orton just to buck up to Pioli is absurd.
Yeah, I agree.

It's pretty clear to me that Haley knew his job was on the line and he had to win. Orton wasn't ready to play when we first got him. He probably wasn't ready against the Bears, either, but Haley felt like he had to play him when Palko continued to struggle. One flea-flicker later Orton couldn't play again.

So what about Stanzi? As the 3rd stringer, he wasn't prepared to start when Cassel got hurt. Before he had anough time working as the back-up, Orton was brought in and he moved back to 3rd string, so, again, he wasn't getting any snaps in practice. Haley probably should have started, or at least went to Stanzi in the Jets game just to show he was doing something to address the QB situation, but he must have felt that Stanzi would still be worse than Palko given that he had very little practice time with the starters.

I'm sure Haley wanted to win and keep his job. He just didn't have any options.

dbolan
12-21-2011, 01:47 PM
Yeah, I agree.

It's pretty clear to me that Haley knew his job was on the line and he had to win. Orton wasn't ready to play when we first got him. He probably wasn't ready against the Bears, either, but Haley felt like he had to play him when Palko continued to struggle. One flea-flicker later Orton couldn't play again.

So what about Stanzi? As the 3rd stringer, he wasn't prepared to start when Cassel got hurt. Before he had anough time working as the back-up, Orton was brought in and he moved back to 3rd string, so, again, he wasn't getting any snaps in practice. Haley probably should have started, or at least went to Stanzi in the Jets game just to show he was doing something to address the QB situation, but he must have felt that Stanzi would still be worse than Palko given that he had very little practice time with the starters.

I'm sure Haley wanted to win and keep his job. He just didn't have any options.

True, true. One thing I believe for certain...Haley seems to be very competitive and I just don't believe that he would throw in the towel. If he felt Stanzi was the best option, he would have made that decision.

Now, I belive Romeo has said he would have given Stanzi a shot, but that was WAY after the fact. RC is experienced enough to play the fans and the media! LOL!

Anyways...I always want the Chiefs to do better...I sat in the stands in the cold and rain many years ago when hardly NO ONE else was there...

Hail Okoye on a rainy day!! LOL!:punk: