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marloweopatchiefs
12-19-2011, 12:05 PM
Romeo Crennel Postgame Comments (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Romeo-Crennel-Postgame-Comments/a51e09ee-e526-41ca-a1ac-2e2bf15ec3d7)

Jrudi
12-19-2011, 12:48 PM
It certainly does give the Chiefs options.

With Orton being a restricted FA he could warrant some interest from other teams, and the Chiefs would get compensation if he signs elsewhere (possibly a 2nd or 3rd rounder) The Chiefs may not want to give him the "long term" contract if might want.

Then you look at Cassel, if somehow they get Orton locked up for a year or two, now Pioli may look to shop Cassel around for draft picks or players.

So there are two scenarios that could allow us to get compensation for the situation we are in.

I thin you might still see us draft a QB, regardless of if 1 or both QBs will be here next year.

Or there's a possibility of Both being back next year. It's definitely something that will warrant some action in the off season.

matthewschiefs
12-19-2011, 01:30 PM
If he does what he did yesterday the next 2 games then I think he will be back. If he struggles and the offense is looking bad again then he won't it's that simple. The lack of TDS might be a rust thing since Orton had not played in a while I hope to see TDS and not Field goals put up the rest of the season.

jap1
12-19-2011, 02:47 PM
Here is the same story from ESPN:

Is Orton KC's QB of the future? - AFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/37308/is-orton-k-c-s-qb-of-the-future)

Hayvern
12-19-2011, 03:38 PM
Here is the same story from ESPN:

Is Orton KC's QB of the future? - AFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/37308/is-orton-k-c-s-qb-of-the-future)

Oh geez, what happened to a little level-headedness? This place is getting out of control. Orton the QB of the future? Orton is marginally better than Cassel, he had a good game this weekend, he may have two more good games this season.

Ultimately, I don't see too many team clamoring to get him this offseason. If he has some good games in the next couple of weeks, his stock will go up, if he sucks, he will be playing backup for the Jaguars.

AkChief49
12-19-2011, 06:15 PM
One more wish...... Orton meeting/beating the Donks for the title.

#58ChiefsFan
12-19-2011, 07:18 PM
If he does what he did yesterday the next 2 games then I think he will be back. If he struggles and the offense is looking bad again then he won't it's that simple. The lack of TDS might be a rust thing since Orton had not played in a while I hope to see TDS and not Field goals put up the rest of the season.

Friday Romeo said they were a little sloppy when they did the goal line situational work. Looks like it carried over to the game, I agree with the liine of thinking that it is just not having all that much time to work with the ones.

Even into this week he was splitting reps with Stanzi, now how much on Friday we dont know, but this week he will be the starter from Wed to game day so there should be improvement.

jap1
12-19-2011, 07:26 PM
Oh geez, what happened to a little level-headedness? This place is getting out of control. Orton the QB of the future? Orton is marginally better than Cassel, he had a good game this weekend, he may have two more good games this season.

Ultimately, I don't see too many team clamoring to get him this offseason. If he has some good games in the next couple of weeks, his stock will go up, if he sucks, he will be playing backup for the Jaguars.

Personally I think it was the change in coaching and the resulting improvement in the game plan and motivation level that made him look so good. Im not ready for him to take over, and I dont think I will be by the end of hte season unless he puts up 2-3 passing TDs in each game. I personally think having a QB controversy is going to hurt any team (because it means you dont have one QB throwing to the 1st team all the time, so they dont have as much time to build rapport). I would hope that Pioli and (insert name of new head coach yet to be named) make a decision on one of them and try to get something (later round draft picks?) out of the other one.

#58ChiefsFan
12-19-2011, 07:41 PM
The knock on Orton has been that he is gold between the 20's and can't finish a drive. Interesting. I still want to see what he can do with a little more time being the guy the next couple weeks. The fact he made our offense work yesterday was a huge step forward.

dbolan
12-20-2011, 09:49 AM
The knock on Orton has been that he is gold between the 20's and can't finish a drive. Interesting. I still want to see what he can do with a little more time being the guy the next couple weeks. The fact he made our offense work yesterday was a huge step forward.

I will take gold between the 20's any day over copper between the goal lines.

With the return of Charles next year (I hope) and possibly getting another solid RB, that could help the issue.

marloweopatchiefs
12-20-2011, 10:14 AM
Oh geez, what happened to a little level-headedness? This place is getting out of control. Orton the QB of the future? Orton is marginally better than Cassel, he had a good game this weekend, he may have two more good games this season.

Ultimately, I don't see too many team clamoring to get him this offseason. If he has some good games in the next couple of weeks, his stock will go up, if he sucks, he will be playing backup for the Jaguars.

Orton is the qb of the future for kc

TopekaRoy
12-20-2011, 11:39 AM
The knock on Orton has been that he is gold between the 20's and can't finish a drive.
I've heard that too, but what did Orton do wrong in the red zone against Packers? Where his throws, wildly off target? Was he hanging on to the ball too long and getting sacked? Did he fumble the ball handing it off to Battle?

The play calling was very conservative in the red zone because the Packers lead the NFL in Interceptions, and Orton has had very little time to practice with the receivers. There is very little room for error on a short field and Muir wanted to make sure they didn't turn the ball over and at least come away with a FG.

I don't blame Orton at all for the lack of production there. He was just doing what he was asked to do. I blame the O-line for not creating holes for our RBs to run through.

Chiefster
12-20-2011, 12:16 PM
I've heard that too, but what did Orton do wrong in the red zone against Packers? Where his throws, wildly off target? Was he hanging on to the ball too long and getting sacked? Did he fumble the ball handing it off to Battle?

The play calling was very conservative in the red zone because the Packers lead the NFL in Interceptions, and Orton has had very little time to practice with the receivers. There is very little room for error on a short field and Muir wanted to make sure they didn't turn the ball over and at least come away with a FG.

I don't blame Orton at all for the lack of production there. He was just doing what he was asked to do. I blame the O-line for not creating holes for our RBs to run through.

I do recall one instance when that was the case. Just sayin. :D

#58ChiefsFan
12-20-2011, 12:19 PM
I've heard that too, but what did Orton do wrong in the red zone against Packers? Where his throws, wildly off target? Was he hanging on to the ball too long and getting sacked? Did he fumble the ball handing it off to Battle?

The play calling was very conservative in the red zone because the Packers lead the NFL in Interceptions, and Orton has had very little time to practice with the receivers. There is very little room for error on a short field and Muir wanted to make sure they didn't turn the ball over and at least come away with a FG.

I don't blame Orton at all for the lack of production there. He was just doing what he was asked to do. I blame the O-line for not creating holes for our RBs to run through.

Overall I think Orton did above average on Sunday. IMO the red zone struggles were a result of timing on the routes. Orton for the most part threw catchable balls, the timing was a hair off and resulted in a couple drops. That to me is merely a lack of familiarity which is reasonable with the amount of time he has been here.

I want to believe after the last game that he can be successful in KC. These next two games will show if he can improve with our coaches and shake that stigma.

Chiefster
12-20-2011, 12:22 PM
Orton is the qb of the future for kc

Kansas City Chiefs Forums - View Single Post - Orton just led us to the biggest win in 20 years. (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showpost.php?p=247948&postcount=49)