Crennell is the new head coach

[marloweopatchiefs]

Seen people on espn saying he got signed for 3 years. found this link

It's official: Crennel is Chiefs' new coach - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/09/3360671/its-official-crennel-is-chiefs.html)
Chiefs Press Conference Coming Today: Hello, Romeo Crennel - Arrowhead Pride (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1/9/2693717/chiefs-press-conference-romeo-crennel)

[hayden2004]

who is crennell?

[marloweopatchiefs]

HAha i guess i did misspell his name. Sorry

[marloweopatchiefs]

Romeo Crennel agrees to three-year deal as Chiefs’ head coach | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/09/romeo-crennel-agrees-to-three-year-deal-as-chiefs-head-coach/)

Here is the 3 year part.

[#58ChiefsFan]

Congrats to Romeo, now the focus is solely on finding a true OC

[dbolan]

I can't clap for this decision...Proof will be in the pudding.

[70 chiefsfan70]

I'm kinda glad in a way, it keeps us from completely changing everything by not bringing in an outsider, but in the same sense, as head coach he has not done anything to really pump me up. But a plus because I'm sure he will stay involved in the defense in which he has done a very good job after a slow and unprepared job in the beginning of this year.

Congrats to him and his family.

[TopekaRoy]

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[kcvet]

its offical now. from the Chiefs website:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/450s/crennel_445_1_9_12.jpg

Kansas City Chiefs Chairman and CEO Clark Hunt and General Manager Scott Pioli will announce Romeo Crennel as the club’s 12th head coach in franchise history at a 1 p.m. press conference today.

link (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/CHIEFS-TO-NAME-ROMEO-CRENNEL-HEAD-COACH/558b2838-b238-4eee-adac-a982eceaf5a0)

congrads to him. now lets GET R DUN

[Eydugstr]

Congrats to Romeo for getting the job. Next time, beat the crap outta Oakland, okay?!?

Now let's get the rest of the coaches and players lined out and get ready for the draft, and kick some butt in '12.

:chiefs:

[dbolan]

An ex-HC with a losing record (.375 min%)...This outta be just swell.

[Jrudi]

Love the move!

There's always a lot of buzz and it's a sexy thing to bring in the "big name coach" or an outsider, but I think bringing in an outsider signifies a "change in mind-set" for the team. You basically start over again, he asseses the players, gets rid of ones that don't fit his system, implements his new system and brings in his new players.

We've got a good core group of guys on this team that will benefit from keeping Crennel around. Now they can go into next year basically wihtout missing a beat. There's no "starting over" per say.

Plus this team seems to respect Crennel, and plays hard for him. I'm excited to see who he grabs as an OC! I think that will be the big factor of our success next year.

Anyone thought of the idea of bringing in Eric Manginni as DC?? Runs the similar system to Crennel, so Crennel could basically still have his hands in the defense, but allow Manginni to take care of the day-to-day things that could distract Crennel and it would allow him to focus on being the Head Coach.

[marloweopatchiefs]

An ex-HC with a losing record (.375 min%)...This outta be just swell.

Name another coach besides schottenheimer who won in cleveland? Belecheet didn't even win there.:ninerssuck:

[toyotapower]

^^^Mangini has worked with crennel before so that would be fine with me.

[matthewschiefs]

I am Ok with this. I don't love the move. I think this is a short term hire. But I think That Romeo can get the job done in his time in KC.

[toyotapower]

I am Ok with this. I don't love the move. I think this is a short term hire. But I think That Romeo can get the job done in his time in KC.

I think its safe to say that whoever gets the OC and DC jobs has a good chance of being our HC in 3-4 years. I vote Jim Zorn and Eric Mangini.

[dbolan]

Name another coach besides schottenheimer who won in cleveland? Belecheet didn't even win there.:ninerssuck:

There were 2 others....:whipping1:

[Jrudi]

An ex-HC with a losing record (.375 min%)...This outta be just swell.

Name 3 talented players on his roster while he was there??

He had jack to work with. This team is primed and ready to be competitive, the situation presents itself to not miss a beat with this hiring.

I think he will rally our team and we will be competitive next year. He's not a micro manager like Haley, and from what I've known in general, Leaders that trust and allow the people under them to do what is expected of them tend to succeed more than the Leader that has to have his hands in every aspect of the operation...(Haley)

[marloweopatchiefs]

There were 2 others....:whipping1:


Name them?:ninerssuck:

[GarH]

Glad to see the Chiefs hire Crennel. Now we need a good OC.

[AkChief49]

Name them?:ninerssuck:
Paul Brown and Blanton Collier
Brown went 158-48 and Collier 76-34 these are the only other winning coaches in browns history. Marty went 44-27 there.

[dbolan]

Name them?:ninerssuck:


Actually 3:

Paul Brown

Blanton Collier

Nick Skorich

:beer:

[AkChief49]

Actually 3:

Paul Brown

Blanton Collier

Nick Skorich

:beer:
I stand corrected:bananen_smilies046:

[TopekaRoy]

Name another coach besides schottenheimer who won in cleveland? Belecheet didn't even win there.:ninerssuck:
Paul Brown '50-'62 (158-48-8) He's dead now.
Blanton Collier '63-'70 (76-34-2) He's dead, too.
Nick Skorich '71-'74 (30-24-2) Also dead.

By the way that team is now the Baltimore Ravens. The Current Cleveland Browns were an expansion team that joined the NFL in 1999 No coach has ever had a winning record with this team.

[Canada]

An ex-HC with a losing record (.375 min%)...This outta be just swell.Wait...YOU dont like this move?? Im absolutely SHOCKED!!







...gives me hope that its the right decision!! :D:ninerssuck:

[Canada]

:ninerssuck: <----did anyone else notice that when you put this in a post it says Ninerssuck?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good coding Coach!!

[whackojacko58]

:sign0023:
There were 2 others....:whipping1:

[dbolan]

Name 3 talented players on his roster while he was there??

He had jack to work with. This team is primed and ready to be competitive, the situation presents itself to not miss a beat with this hiring.

I think he will rally our team and we will be competitive next year. He's not a micro manager like Haley, and from what I've known in general, Leaders that trust and allow the people under them to do what is expected of them tend to succeed more than the Leader that has to have his hands in every aspect of the operation...(Haley)

PICK 3..THEY are there..

Here is the Browns 2008 roster...Per Crennel's choice's. Pick as you will...
Quarterbacks
13 Richard Bartel
7 Bruce Gradkowski
Running Backs
41 Charles Ali FB
35 Jerome Harrison
31 Jamal Lewis
28 Allen Patrick
47 Lawrence Vickers FB
Wide Receivers
16 Josh Cribbs KR/PR
17 Braylon Edwards
89 Paul Hubbard
18 Donté Stallworth
12 Syndric Steptoe
Tight Ends
88 Brad Cieslak
87 Darnell Dinkins
85 John Madsen
86 Martin Rucker
80 Kellen Winslow II
Offensive Linemen
66 Hank Fraley C
70 Rex Hadnot G/C
68 Seth McKinney C/G
77 Kevin Shaffer T
61 Isaac Sowells T/G
65 Eric Steinbach G
73 Joe Thomas T
79 Scott Young G
Defensive Linemen
93 Louis Leonard DE/NT
92 Shaun Rogers NT
71 Ahtyba Rubin NT
91 Shaun Smith DE/NT
97 Santonio Thomas DE
99 Corey Williams DE
Linebackers
59 Titus Brown OLB
54 Andra Davis ILB
53 Kris Griffin ILB
96 Alex Hall OLB
52 D'Qwell Jackson ILB
55 Willie McGinest OLB/DE
51 Shantee Orr OLB/DE
94 Leon Williams ILB
95 Kamerion Wimbley OLB/DE
Defensive Backs
42 Hamza Abdullah SS
20 Mike Adams FS
25 Terry Cousin CB
23 Travis Daniels CB
26 Sean Jones SS
30 Gerard Lawson CB
22 Brandon McDonald CB
21 Brodney Pool FS
27 Nick Sorensen SS
24 Eric Wright CB
Special Teams
4 Phil Dawson K
64 Ryan Pontbriand LS
15 Dave Zastudil P
Reserve Lists
3 Derek Anderson QB (IR)
58 Beau Bell ILB (IR)
11 Ken Dorsey QB (IR)
62 Lennie Friedman G/C (IR)
82 Steve Heiden TE (IR)
39 Daven Holly CB (IR)
84 Joe Jurevicius WR (PUP)
56 Antwan Peek OLB (IR)
97 Chase Pittman DE (IR)
10 Brady Quinn QB (IR)
98 Robaire Smith DE (IR)
72 Ryan Tucker T/G (IR)
29 Jason Wright RB (IR)
69 Eric Young G (NF-Inj.)
Practice Squad
44 Jed Collins TE
8 Mike Dragosavich P
62 Dustin Fry C
90 David Holloway ILB
9 Lance Leggett WR
69 Christian Mohr DE Int'l
60 Melila Purcell DE
74 Kurt Quarterman G
83 Steve Sanders WR
Rookies in italics

[Canada]

Quarterbacks
13 Richard Bartel
7 Bruce Gradkowski


Im sure you are bound to be successful with those QBs

[nigeriannightmare]

PICK 3..THEY are there..

Here is the Browns 2008 roster...Per Crennel's choice's. Pick as you will...
Quarterbacks
13 Richard Bartel
7 Bruce Gradkowski
Running Backs
41 Charles Ali FB
35 Jerome Harrison
31 Jamal Lewis
28 Allen Patrick
47 Lawrence Vickers FB
Wide Receivers
16 Josh Cribbs KR/PR
17 Braylon Edwards
89 Paul Hubbard
18 Donté Stallworth
12 Syndric Steptoe
Tight Ends
88 Brad Cieslak
87 Darnell Dinkins
85 John Madsen
86 Martin Rucker
80 Kellen Winslow II
Offensive Linemen
66 Hank Fraley C
70 Rex Hadnot G/C
68 Seth McKinney C/G
77 Kevin Shaffer T
61 Isaac Sowells T/G
65 Eric Steinbach G
73 Joe Thomas T
79 Scott Young G
Defensive Linemen
93 Louis Leonard DE/NT
92 Shaun Rogers NT
71 Ahtyba Rubin NT
91 Shaun Smith DE/NT
97 Santonio Thomas DE
99 Corey Williams DE
Linebackers
59 Titus Brown OLB
54 Andra Davis ILB
53 Kris Griffin ILB
96 Alex Hall OLB
52 D'Qwell Jackson ILB
55 Willie McGinest OLB/DE
51 Shantee Orr OLB/DE
94 Leon Williams ILB
95 Kamerion Wimbley OLB/DE
Defensive Backs
42 Hamza Abdullah SS
20 Mike Adams FS
25 Terry Cousin CB
23 Travis Daniels CB
26 Sean Jones SS
30 Gerard Lawson CB
22 Brandon McDonald CB
21 Brodney Pool FS
27 Nick Sorensen SS
24 Eric Wright CB
Special Teams
4 Phil Dawson K
64 Ryan Pontbriand LS
15 Dave Zastudil P
Reserve Lists
3 Derek Anderson QB (IR)
58 Beau Bell ILB (IR)
11 Ken Dorsey QB (IR)
62 Lennie Friedman G/C (IR)
82 Steve Heiden TE (IR)
39 Daven Holly CB (IR)
84 Joe Jurevicius WR (PUP)
56 Antwan Peek OLB (IR)
97 Chase Pittman DE (IR)
10 Brady Quinn QB (IR)
98 Robaire Smith DE (IR)
72 Ryan Tucker T/G (IR)
29 Jason Wright RB (IR)
69 Eric Young G (NF-Inj.)
Practice Squad
44 Jed Collins TE
8 Mike Dragosavich P
62 Dustin Fry C
90 David Holloway ILB
9 Lance Leggett WR
69 Christian Mohr DE Int'l
60 Melila Purcell DE
74 Kurt Quarterman G
83 Steve Sanders WR
Rookies in italics

Ur gonna compare that roster to ours. None of those receivers would even be starting here. The 2012 chiefs are way moreoaded eith talent.

[AkChief49]

The browns have had two winning seasons since they returned to the NFL in '99. Crennel has one of them.

[Jrudi]

Quarterbacks
13 Richard Bartel
7 Bruce Gradkowski


Im sure you are bound to be successful with those QBs

DBolan didn't mention that they had 4 starting QB's go down that year. Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Ken Dorsey, and Gradkowski (who was actually added mid-season)

And you have got to be kidding me, the most talented person on the roster was the Kick Returner??

Lewis was over the hill, but he actually had his first 1300 yard season since 2003 (Crennel Brought him to Cleveland)

The team actually finished 10-6 in 2007, but similar to the Chiefs season this year, had lots of injuries that led to the 4-12 season.

[Jrudi]

Now that I look at it, any talent that was on that team was brought in by Crennel...

Kamerion Wimbley
DQwell Jackson
Braylon Edwards
Jammal Lewis
Joe Thomas
Brodney Pool
Jerome Harrison
Lawrence Vickers

[azchiefsfan]

I always thought Crennel was done dirty in Cleveland. Talk about injuries. But they still managed to be in most games they were severely overmatched in. He is 64, so it's more than likely this 3 years will be his swan song in the NFL. I hope for him (and us but mostly him) he can have the huge success such a class act deserves. I love it! Let's bring on the 2012 season.

[TopekaRoy]

Here is the video for the press conference announcing Crennel as head coach. I really like what I heard from him, but he was very vague about Kyle Orton's future with the team.

From the Podium: Romeo Crennel (http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/From-the-Podium-Romeo-Crennel/10d00cd0-c31d-4bfa-86b9-8237beb9c639)

[okikcfan]

Did you notice when asked about QB's he said we have Matt and Stanzi, nothing was said about Palko! Yea!!!!

[lordchillz]

I for one am happy that crennel is the hc. I know he had a disapointing stint in cleveland but i do think ges an intelligent guy and should be able to avoid mistakes he might have made with the browns. Also i think since hes been here with us already, hes aware of the qb situation and can make a more informed decision on how to deal with it than a new coach just walking through the doors. Since cleveland was considered a failure in his coaching history, the fact that he was so eager to coach again shows he learned a few things since then and is confident that he can do better this time wich hopefully works in our favor. The difference between him and haley is day and night, and ill admit i liked haley until these last couple of months. Haley rebuilt bowe into a better reciever and threw larry johnson outta here so he still contributed alot to this team.

[lordchillz]

Oh yeah, the last coach we had come here from the browns worked out pretty good. Marty be thy name. Lol! I know it makes no signifigant impact but im just throwing out some history. Lol!

[okikcfan]

The browns have had two winning seasons since they returned to the NFL in '99. Crennel has one of them.

This is copied from Real_Chiefs from the KC Star website.

Look at the numbers at Cleveland
Coach Years W/L Winning %

Paul Brown 1946–1962 - 158/48 76.7%
Blanton Collier1963–1970 - 76/34 69.1
Nick Skorich 1971–1974 - 34/24 55.6%
Forrest Gregg 1975–1977 - 18/23 43.9%
Dick Modzelewski 1977 (Interim) - 0/1 00.0%
Sam Rutigliano 1978–1984 - 47/50 48.5%
Marty Schottenheimer 1984–1988 - 44/27 62.0%
Bud Carson 1989–1990 - 11/13 45.8%
Jim Shofner 1990 (Interim) - 1/6 14.3%
Bill Belichick 1991–1995 - 36/44 45.0%
Chris Palmer 1999–2000 - 5/27 15.6%
Butch Davis 2001–2004 - 24/34 41.4%
Terry Robiskie 2004 (Interim) - 1/5 16.7%
Romeo Crennel 2005–2008 - 24/40 37.5
Eric Mangini 2009–2010 - 10/22 31.3%
Pat Shurmur 2011–Present - 4/12 25.0%




If you look at the history of the Cleveland Browns you will
notice that the winning pct.. is not very good after Paul Brown left. In fact
since Marty left the team has not had a winning coach since. They have had some
winning seasons but not a winning tradition. With this fact I do not hold
Crennel’s record at Cleveland against him. I will wait and see.

[kcvet]

Cleveland is where sick teams go to get well

[tornadospotter]

I stand corrected:bananen_smilies046:
You are standing when typing? :smile

[chiefnut]

I hope the third time is the charm, remember frank ganzs and gunther cunningham. statisticaly speaky promoting the interim coach to head coach doesn't payoff.

[N TX Dave]

You guys need to give him a chance instead of saying it won't work for this or that reason. How do you know it won't work, it might or might not only time will tell. But at least give it a chance before you call it a failure. Did you want to bring someone else and wait another year or two for the coaches learn the players and the players a year or two to learn the new coaches schemes? Besides who was realistic going to come here other than a coordinator (like Haley) from another team.

There is not a prefect fit that was guaranteed to come in and win a SB, look at the Dick V that we brought in that had won the SB with two different teams, he did not do it here.

[okikcfan]

I think we have some what of a better chance with Crennel. He's been here, he know's the players, he know's Pioli as well as anyone does having worked with him for so long and the players seem to have alot of respect for him. That to me is a very good start. Now they have to go to work on the coaching aspect, OC and DC. We have to have faith, to say someone else would do better in this Situation is kinda unrealistic I think. He needs the chance to prove himself. He's got that chance, it's time to move on to the next faze.....

[nigeriannightmare]

This is copied from Real_Chiefs from the KC Star website.

Look at the numbers at Cleveland
Coach Years W/L Winning %

Paul Brown 1946–1962 - 158/48 76.7%
Blanton Collier1963–1970 - 76/34 69.1
Nick Skorich 1971–1974 - 34/24 55.6%
Forrest Gregg 1975–1977 - 18/23 43.9%
Dick Modzelewski 1977 (Interim) - 0/1 00.0%
Sam Rutigliano 1978–1984 - 47/50 48.5%
Marty Schottenheimer 1984–1988 - 44/27 62.0%
Bud Carson 1989–1990 - 11/13 45.8%
Jim Shofner 1990 (Interim) - 1/6 14.3%
Bill Belichick 1991–1995 - 36/44 45.0%
Chris Palmer 1999–2000 - 5/27 15.6%
Butch Davis 2001–2004 - 24/34 41.4%
Terry Robiskie 2004 (Interim) - 1/5 16.7%
Romeo Crennel 2005–2008 - 24/40 37.5
Eric Mangini 2009–2010 - 10/22 31.3%
Pat Shurmur 2011–Present - 4/12 25.0%




If you look at the history of the Cleveland Browns you will
notice that the winning pct.. is not very good after Paul Brown left. In fact
since Marty left the team has not had a winning coach since. They have had some
winning seasons but not a winning tradition. With this fact I do not hold
Crennel’s record at Cleveland against him. I will wait and see.

Not entirely accurate the cleveland browns moved to baltimore in 1999...the cleveland browns now are an expansion team.

[tornadospotter]

Well I for one hope, that as the New Head Coach,
the biggest change in coaching RC does. Get an OC and let the OC do there job!

[Fastphilly]

I'm fine with him being a head coach as long as he keeps a "hands off" approach on the offence. He needs a capable OC to get things going.

[Fastphilly]

You guys need to give him a chance instead of saying it won't work for this or that reason. How do you know it won't work, it might or might not only time will tell. But at least give it a chance before you call it a failure. Did you want to bring someone else and wait another year or two for the coaches learn the players and the players a year or two to learn the new coaches schemes? Besides who was realistic going to come here other than a coordinator (like Haley) from another team.

There is not a prefect fit that was guaranteed to come in and win a SB, look at the Dick V that we brought in that had won the SB with two different teams, he did not do it here.

I don't buy into that bringing in a outsider and it takes a season or two for the coach to know the players and yadda yadda yadda..Jim Harbaugh in SF just landed this year with no offseason and they are playing lights out.

[N TX Dave]

I don't buy into that bringing in a outsider and it takes a season or two for the coach to know the players and yadda yadda yadda..Jim Harbaugh in SF just landed this year with no offseason and they are playing lights out.

But how many times does it happen? Sure there are examples for both sides besides how do you know RAC is going to fail? No one does he might fall on his face I don't know but he is our coach now for good or bad and no matter what I will pull for him and not put him down before he even gets his staff together. Did you want to bring in a DC or OC and see what he could do and maybe end up with another Haley? It is some people in here want the Chiefs to be a Play Station team. I think no matter who was hired some people who complain.
:efpge::meow::efpge:

[dbolan]

DBolan didn't mention that they had 4 starting QB's go down that year. Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Ken Dorsey, and Gradkowski (who was actually added mid-season)

And you have got to be kidding me, the most talented person on the roster was the Kick Returner??

Lewis was over the hill, but he actually had his first 1300 yard season since 2003 (Crennel Brought him to Cleveland)

The team actually finished 10-6 in 2007, but similar to the Chiefs season this year, had lots of injuries that led to the 4-12 season.

JRUDI...

You said name 3 and there are certainly 3 there.

Go to NY and ask anyone to name 3 great players from our team. Right, you probably won't hear a peep.

Romeo had players albeit, a chunk of them were wash-outs. FEEL familiar? lmao

[dbolan]

You guys need to give him a chance instead of saying it won't work for this or that reason. How do you know it won't work, it might or might not only time will tell. But at least give it a chance before you call it a failure. Did you want to bring someone else and wait another year or two for the coaches learn the players and the players a year or two to learn the new coaches schemes? Besides who was realistic going to come here other than a coordinator (like Haley) from another team.

There is not a prefect fit that was guaranteed to come in and win a SB, look at the Dick V that we brought in that had won the SB with two different teams, he did not do it here.

We say it won't work for the same reason ALL of us say a certain player or DC/OC won't work when signed, drafted or picked-up in FA.

Opinions...All of us have them and some don't want to be heard. lmao

[dbolan]

I will add....


As I have said before on other team choices...Should the Chiefs be successful with Crennel, I will be the first to eat crow..After all....I DO want to see the Chiefs win another SB!!!

[N TX Dave]

We say it won't work for the same reason ALL of us say a certain player or DC/OC won't work when signed, drafted or picked-up in FA.

Opinions...All of us have them and some don't want to be heard. lmao

You are entitled to your opinions but you sound like you know he is going to fail. No one knows if he will fail or succeed for sure. Besides he is our HC now just like they say in a wedding "for better or worse", so why keep pounding it in the ground is all I am saying. To bring all this stuff up before he was hired is okay but now what difference does it make.

He might have learned a lot of things from his HC failure in Cleveland and again maybe not, we will find out in the future. Like the old saying goes "burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me."

[Jrudi]

You are entitled to your opinions but you sound like you know he is going to fail. No one knows if he will fail or succeed for sure. Besides he is our HC now just like they say in a wedding "for better or worse", so why keep pounding it in the ground is all I am saying. To bring all this stuff up before he was hired is okay but now what difference does it make.

He might have learned a lot of things from his HC failure in Cleveland and again maybe not, we will find out in the future. Like the old saying goes "burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me."

Ya know...

I got to thinking, it really doesn't matter if dbolan doesn't like the move, because his opinion doesn't matter, you're right Crennel is the HC, no matter who thinks it's a good/bad move.

Fact of the matter is, you can set here and B*tch all you want, it's not going to change the fact the he is now the Coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

People always use all these stats to support what makes a super bowl team, but the reality is, the team has to play together as a team, the situation has to be right, and the team has to get hot at the right time. Crennel said it himself in his press conference, the first year the Pats won the super bowl when he was there, at the beginning of the season the entire staff thought they had no chance to even be competitive, they won the SB, the next year, they thought they had a good shot, and they missed the playoffs. then went on the following year to win back to back.

We can analyze it all we want, Crennel is the HC, we will see if it was a good move next season, I'm just hoping dbolan is pulling his foot out of his mouth next January when the playoffs roll around (not saying you're right or wrong at the current moment, just saying let's re-visit this topic next January)

[dbolan]

Ya know...

I got to thinking, it really doesn't matter if dbolan doesn't like the move, because his opinion doesn't matter, you're right Crennel is the HC, no matter who thinks it's a good/bad move.

Fact of the matter is, you can set here and B*tch all you want, it's not going to change the fact the he is now the Coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

People always use all these stats to support what makes a super bowl team, but the reality is, the team has to play together as a team, the situation has to be right, and the team has to get hot at the right time. Crennel said it himself in his press conference, the first year the Pats won the super bowl when he was there, at the beginning of the season the entire staff thought they had no chance to even be competitive, they won the SB, the next year, they thought they had a good shot, and they missed the playoffs. then went on the following year to win back to back.

We can analyze it all we want, Crennel is the HC, we will see if it was a good move next season, I'm just hoping dbolan is pulling his foot out of his mouth next January when the playoffs roll around (not saying you're right or wrong at the current moment, just saying let's re-visit this topic next January)

I have said on numerous ocassions...I hope that is the case!!

I WANT the Chiefs to succeed! I was in the stands in the early 90's, in the cold and the rain when there were so many empty seats that you had your complete choice of placement!

I will be the first to stand up here or anywhere and say that I mis-evaluated!!

Cheers!

[okikcfan]

As I have said before for Crennel to succeed we will need a solid OC and DC. He's our coach and I support him, It's up to him and Pioli to build from there.

[kcticketguy]

He couldn't win before..hope that changes.

[Canada]

He couldn't win before..hope that changes.Nobody wins in Cleveland. He does have 5 SB rings though...hes won somewhere:bananen_smilies046: