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Ryfo18
01-24-2012, 10:43 AM
While it doesn't eliminate the possibility of him having competition, I think we're probably looking at Matt Cassel being the starter next year.

"According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Matt Cassel will "for sure" be the Chiefs' starting quarterback heading into training camp.

Schefter's assertion comes two weeks after new coach Romeo Crennel backed Cassel at his introductory press conference. Schefter's comments leave the door open for the Chiefs to add competition, but the feeling among organization higher-ups is that Cassel can still be a success. Free agent Kyle Orton has hinted he won't be back after leading the Chiefs to a 2-1 record down the stretch. "

Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3237/matt-cassel

Jrudi
01-24-2012, 11:03 AM
While it doesn't eliminate the possibility of him having competition, I think we're probably looking at Matt Cassel being the starter next year.

"According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Matt Cassel will "for sure" be the Chiefs' starting quarterback heading into training camp.

Schefter's assertion comes two weeks after new coach Romeo Crennel backed Cassel at his introductory press conference. Schefter's comments leave the door open for the Chiefs to add competition, but the feeling among organization higher-ups is that Cassel can still be a success. Free agent Kyle Orton has hinted he won't be back after leading the Chiefs to a 2-1 record down the stretch. "

Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3237/matt-cassel


Glad to clear the air of the QB talk....Crennel is starting out on the right foot.. Just like he did with Orton and Stanzi his 1st week as interim HC he cleared the air to eliminate distractions.

I think it's important to state who your guy is, weather or not he remains the guy...You need to make it clear to the team who is going to lead them well in advance.

Did anyone find out if Orton is restricted or Unrestricted??? I had heard both, it would be nice to get compensation for him if he is restricted.

Ryfo18
01-24-2012, 11:08 AM
Glad to clear the air of the QB talk....Crennel is starting out on the right foot.. Just like he did with Orton and Stanzi his 1st week as interim HC he cleared the air to eliminate distractions.

I think it's important to state who your guy is, weather or not he remains the guy...You need to make it clear to the team who is going to lead them well in advance.

Did anyone find out if Orton is restricted or Unrestricted??? I had heard both, it would be nice to get compensation for him if he is restricted.

He's unrestricted.

Restricted applies only to guys w/ < 4 years experience. I think Orton is at 7 or 8.

70 chiefsfan70
01-24-2012, 11:13 AM
While it doesn't eliminate the possibility of him having competition, I think we're probably looking at Matt Cassel being the starter next year.

"According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Matt Cassel will "for sure" be the Chiefs' starting quarterback heading into training camp.

Schefter's assertion comes two weeks after new coach Romeo Crennel backed Cassel at his introductory press conference. Schefter's comments leave the door open for the Chiefs to add competition, but the feeling among organization higher-ups is that Cassel can still be a success. Free agent Kyle Orton has hinted he won't be back after leading the Chiefs to a 2-1 record down the stretch. "

Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3237/matt-cassel



Just like I expected.

Even if we did draft RG3, (which I really don't see possible) I think Cassel would still be the starter, unless of course we used Cassel in the trade to get RG3.

Its a good thing though that its been announced, to ease the talk. It still leaves us short a qb, so we still need to pick 1 up via FA or draft. I would like to have somone who has had starting experience. We saw what happened in 2011.

Jrudi
01-24-2012, 11:22 AM
Just like I expected.

Even if we did draft RG3, (which I really don't see possible) I think Cassel would still be the starter, unless of course we used Cassel in the trade to get RG3.

Its a good thing though that its been announced, to ease the talk. It still leaves us short a qb, so we still need to pick 1 up via FA or draft. I would like to have somone who has had starting experience. We saw what happened in 2011.

Think it's more likely we see a veteran come in to back him up....

Maybe willing to give Stanzi one more year to develop in hopes of him working out to be a starter in 2 years....If they aren't confident in the idea of him taking over for Cassel in 2 years (Cassel will be 32 years old) I think next year you see us take a QB high in rounds 1 or two...

Possible Vets for this offseason:

A.J. Feeley (STL)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
David Carr (NYG)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Chris Redman (ATL)
Charlie Batch (PIT)

dbolan
01-24-2012, 12:47 PM
Think it's more likely we see a veteran come in to back him up....

Maybe willing to give Stanzi one more year to develop in hopes of him working out to be a starter in 2 years....If they aren't confident in the idea of him taking over for Cassel in 2 years (Cassel will be 32 years old) I think next year you see us take a QB high in rounds 1 or two...

Possible Vets for this offseason:

A.J. Feeley (STL)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
David Carr (NYG)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Chris Redman (ATL)
Charlie Batch (PIT)

I think Brady Quinn would be my pick of this group.

toyotapower
01-24-2012, 01:37 PM
Yes, and the cleveland connection is there

Jrudi
01-24-2012, 01:44 PM
Yes, and the cleveland connection is there

and he would have more talent around him here than he did in Cleveland...

Maybe shines and is an answer for after Cassel??

Chiefster
01-24-2012, 02:01 PM
...Still would have liked to see Cassel compete with Orton.

Jrudi
01-24-2012, 03:22 PM
...Still would have liked to see Cassel compete with Orton.

I think they will try to bring someone in that will push Cassel...

Still think Cassel will be the starter but I think they will bring in a better backup than we have had since he has been here, so he will feel the heat and up his game a bit...

Jrudi
01-24-2012, 04:53 PM
I think Brady Quinn would be my pick of this group.

Ya know I started looking at it.... and Quinn has never really gotten his shot, or had a coach or organization that stuck with him....Crennel Drafted him but after he was let go, the new coaching staff never game him much of a shot either.

His rookie season he held out of training camp causing him to miss 10 days of camp...Because of the holdout Quinn had some catchup to do and was listed as 3rd on the depth chart.

Week 1 Charlie Frye was the starter and the Browns got their butt whipped by the Steelers 34-7, Frye was then traded away to the Seahawks elevating Derek Anderson into the starting role, and Quinn to 2nd string. This was the year the Browns went 10-6.... Anderson remained the starter until he hurt his wrist and Pinky in week 16 causing Quinn to get his first start as a pro the final week of the season.

The 2008 season brought a QB controversy, but the General Manager announced that Anderson would go into the season as the starter after leading the team to a 10-6 record the year before.... Aftar a 3-5 start with Anderson under center the Browns again went with Quinn. His first start that season and of his career was a loss to the Broncos in which he played well, and even lead the Browns to a 2 td lead against Denver, but the Broncos rallied back to win. The following week Quinn recorded his first win agaisnt the Bills in only his 3rd career start, unfortunately Quinn broke his finger in that game, and had to be taken out the following week against the Texans ending his season.

This ended Crennel's tenure in Cleveland.... The following year Eric Mangini came in and said there would be a competition between Anderson and Quinn for the starting job..Quinn won the competition. He remained the Starter until week 3 when he was benched at halftime agaisnt the Ravens in favor of Anderson who would only hold the starting job for 4 1/2 weeks and was replaced by Quinn in the final minutes of the week 8 loss to the Bears. Going into the BYE week, the Browns once again did not know who their starter would be...Quinn was again handed the starting QB position due to his had work ethic and effort even while on the bench. Quinn returned to the starting position against the Ravens on Monday night football in a week 11 loss to the Ravens (16-0) he remained the starter and put out some of his best performances of his short career in this span leading the team to a 3-2 record before being placed on IR for the final two games of the season with a foot injury. Among the teams Quinn beat were the Steelers and the Chiefs 41-34 in Arrowhead stadium....

As we all know, in 2010 he was traded to the Broncos, and he is now a Free Agent...

Sounds to me like he's never really had a shot to be successful. An hasn't even been allowed to play a full season... I think it could be a possibility Crennel picks this kid up, gives him a 2-3 year deal with backup money in hopes that he could succeed Cassel after his contract is up.

The guy is only 27, and has had the time to learn...If we bring him in as the backup the investment isn't there, and we have time to evaluate him..

He was a 1st round pick for a reason....Thoughts??

TopekaRoy
01-24-2012, 05:23 PM
He was a 1st round pick for a reason....Thoughts??
I had heard before the season started that he could compete with Orton for the starting job and I think he looked pretty good in the preseason games, IIRC. But I have some questions about him.

Do you think the Broncos will try to resign him?

Why didn't he get a shot in Denver when they gave up on Orton?

I don't know anything about his size / Physique. Do you thinkk he might be injury prone, or was he just playing behind bad O-lines?

matthewschiefs
01-24-2012, 06:08 PM
I had heard before the season started that he could compete with Orton for the starting job and I think he looked pretty good in the preseason games, IIRC. But I have some questions about him.

Do you think the Broncos will try to resign him?

Why didn't he get a shot in Denver when they gave up on Orton?

I don't know anything about his size / Physique. Do you thinkk he might be injury prone, or was he just playing behind bad O-lines?

The tebow hype hurt his chances. Donkey fans were crazy to get Tebow in and Tebow won games so he stayed in. I don't think it had anything to do with Quinn not being a better Qb. They were simply a 1-4 team thinking they were out of it and gave the fanbase something they were screaming for.

I wouldn't mind Quinn I would just hope he gets a fair shot to be the starter. I don't Hate Matt Cassel won't mind if he is still the starter next season but I want to to earn it. The injury bug is alot of the reason why he struggled losing your best player and a key redzone target is always going to hurt But Cassel was part of the problem there as well. I want him to EARN the right to keep the job.

Jrudi
01-24-2012, 06:25 PM
I had heard before the season started that he could compete with Orton for the starting job and I think he looked pretty good in the preseason games, IIRC. But I have some questions about him.

Do you think the Broncos will try to resign him?

Why didn't he get a shot in Denver when they gave up on Orton?

I don't know anything about his size / Physique. Do you thinkk he might be injury prone, or was he just playing behind bad O-lines?

I doubt he will want to return to Denver now that Tebow is getting his shot...He will want to go somewhere he may have a future with...Which could be likely in KC.

Even though they have announced Cassel as the starter into Training camp, The feeling about the QB position is still an uneasy one. I think it would bring in a young competitor to push Cassel, and could even serve as a successor to Cassel if we decide to move on without him in a year or two...

The more and more I think about it, the more and more I like it..

Chiefster
01-24-2012, 06:26 PM
I think they will try to bring someone in that will push Cassel...

Still think Cassel will be the starter but I think they will bring in a better backup than we have had since he has been here, so he will feel the heat and up his game a bit...

...Sure hope so; no more of these Palko types.

AkChief49
01-24-2012, 08:38 PM
...Sure hope so; no more of these Palko types.
hey, hey, watch your language there mr. you're a mod for goodness sake!!!!!:D

whackojacko58
01-24-2012, 10:54 PM
how bout huard types, or croyle times, lol

2010chiefs
01-24-2012, 10:58 PM
I would only be happy about this if we resign Orton. He's allready proved he can play good with this offense and this team. We know he can step in and take over the starting position if needed.
Bringing in a new Qb that needs to learn the offense only tells me that we're stuck with Cassel wether he plays good or bad.

N TX Dave
01-24-2012, 11:09 PM
I would only be happy about this if we resign Orton. He's allready proved he can play good with this offense and this team. We know he can step in and take over the starting position if needed.
Bringing in a new Qb that needs to learn the offense only tells me that we're stuck with Cassel wether he plays good or bad.

No matter who the QB is they are going to have to learn the offense because the offense is going to be different next year at least I hope it is. They will have a new cordinator and no head coach messing with them.

Hayvern
01-25-2012, 02:22 AM
Glad to clear the air of the QB talk....Crennel is starting out on the right foot.. Just like he did with Orton and Stanzi his 1st week as interim HC he cleared the air to eliminate distractions.

I think it's important to state who your guy is, weather or not he remains the guy...You need to make it clear to the team who is going to lead them well in advance.

Did anyone find out if Orton is restricted or Unrestricted??? I had heard both, it would be nice to get compensation for him if he is restricted.

He is unrestricted, but he is a big enough name to garner a compensation pick, it is possible.

Chiefster
01-25-2012, 01:35 PM
hey, hey, watch your language there mr. you're a mod for goodness sake!!!!!:D

Your right; I don't know what came over me; that's as bad as saying Lin Ellio....

Ryfo18
01-25-2012, 02:50 PM
Your right; I don't know what came over me; that's as bad as saying Lin Ellio....

:ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2:

Chiefster
01-25-2012, 02:54 PM
:ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2: :ban2:

No thanks; I have deodorant.

AkChief49
01-25-2012, 08:43 PM
Your right; I don't know what came over me; that's as bad as saying Lin Ellio....
hush your mouth! :D

matthewschiefs
01-25-2012, 08:53 PM
Your right; I don't know what came over me; that's as bad as saying Lin Ellio....

GET HIM :mob:

okikcfan
01-25-2012, 10:16 PM
Your right; I don't know what came over me; that's as bad as saying Lin Ellio....

:whipping1: :beat_DeadHorse: :whipping1: :beat_DeadHorse: :whipping1: :bash: :thumbdown: :imagestore (13): :bartsimpson: :sAng_scream:

Chiefster
01-26-2012, 12:11 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I love this thread!

Three7s
01-26-2012, 01:05 AM
Personally, I think Steve Bono should be added to the list of unmentionable names too.

nigeriannightmare
01-26-2012, 08:26 AM
[QUOTE=Three7s;252658]Personally, I think Steve Bono should be added to the list of unmentionable names too

I dont ageee 13 and 3 pro bowl year, up to that time he had the longest run as a qb at 76 yards unless of course the fact he didnt like living in kc.......

dbolan
01-26-2012, 09:05 AM
[quote=Three7s;252658]Personally, I think Steve Bono should be added to the list of unmentionable names too

I dont ageee 13 and 3 pro bowl year, up to that time he had the longest run as a qb at 76 yards unless of course the fact he didnt like living in kc.......

I agree with that as well...

One of the things Bono got dinged on was when he said that it was his job to get the ball in the "vicinity" of the receiver and it was the recievers job to get the ball.

A few years ago, there was a Sports Science episode that analyzed the catching range of an NFL WR and from this program, it was noted that the catching circumference of WR's was incredible and a neccessity for any QB or WR to be successful because ALL balls cannot be thrown directly to the numbers

Three7s
01-26-2012, 10:07 AM
[quote=Three7s;252658]Personally, I think Steve Bono should be added to the list of unmentionable names too

I dont ageee 13 and 3 pro bowl year, up to that time he had the longest run as a qb at 76 yards unless of course the fact he didnt like living in kc.......
That failure actually made a pro bowl? Spin it any way you want, that team went 13-3 because of defense and nothing but defense.

nigeriannightmare
01-27-2012, 08:45 AM
[quote=nigeriannightmare;252672]
That failure actually made a pro bowl? Spin it any way you want, that team went 13-3 because of defense and nothing but defense.

When was the last time a chiefs qb ran for 76 yards much less scored a td, 21 tds 10 ints, 12 in the nfl in scoring. So cassel gets to.the pro bowl because of a "weak" schede and bono made the probowl because of martys run run pass offense and a strong d. Give the guy a little credit he didnt miss 3 freaking field goals.......28.and 10 as a starter thats not bad any way u want to spin i would hardly call that failure.

pojote
01-27-2012, 11:37 AM
I dont ageee 13 and 3 pro bowl year, up to that time he had the longest run as a qb at 76 yards unless of course the fact he didnt like living in kc.......

He was running away from KC :lol:

Hayvern
01-30-2012, 03:20 PM
Personally, I think Steve Bono should be added to the list of unmentionable names too.

He is!! Right below Elvis Gr.. I just can't say it!

Hayvern
01-30-2012, 03:25 PM
Your right; I don't know what came over me; that's as bad as saying Lin Ellio....

Young man, if you keep using language like that we are going to have to wash your mouth out with soap!

Chiefster
02-02-2012, 02:06 PM
Young man, if you keep using language like that we are going to have to wash your mouth out with soap!


It could have been worse I could have mentioned Herm Edwar.....

Ryfo18
02-02-2012, 02:22 PM
It could have been worse I could have mentioned Herm Edwar.....

That man is a saint compared to the other name you mentioned earlier. At least he brought us the Brandon's (and Branden) and Jamaal Charles.

okikcfan
02-02-2012, 03:26 PM
So just for fun, let's say Big Al Saunders came back home to KC as our new OC, does ANYONE see Cassel improving under the Al Saunders offensive system?

chief31
02-02-2012, 05:14 PM
So just for fun, let's say Big Al Saunders came back home to KC as our new OC, does ANYONE see Cassel improving under the Al Saunders offensive system?

Saunders is known for having the largest, most complicated offensive playbook in The NFL.

I don't see immediate success coming from Al Saunders' offense.

And, due to the position this team is in, I would prefer not to have Saunders as our next OC.

This team is ready to compete right now. Having a long learning period for the offense is not what I want to see. And I know that Chiefs fans will not have the patience for a two, to three, year restructuring of the offense.

Chiefster
02-03-2012, 04:10 AM
Saunders is known for having the largest, most complicated offensive playbook in The NFL.

I don't see immediate success coming from Al Saunders' offense.

And, due to the position this team is in, I would prefer not to have Saunders as our next OC.

This team is ready to compete right now. Having a long learning period for the offense is not what I want to see. And I know that Chiefs fans will not have the patience for a two, to three, year restructuring of the offense.

Good point; it took Trent Green at least three years to become proficient at that offense.

chief31
02-03-2012, 11:19 PM
Good point; it took Trent Green at least three years to become proficient at that offense.

And since leaving KC, he hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in any of his short stints with The Redskins, The Rams, The Ravens, nor The Raiders.

I'd be happy to see him back here. But I would be extremely worried about the offense, and how long he would get to produce top quality results.

okikcfan
02-04-2012, 07:35 PM
Didn't Green retire a couple of years ago?

Chiefster
02-04-2012, 11:59 PM
Didn't Green retire a couple of years ago?

That was my understanding.