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02-20-2012, 01:48 PM
NFL Network is reporting Routt has agreed to a 3 year deal with the Chiefs

:kc:

figcrostic
02-20-2012, 01:49 PM
Yeah we got a great deal three-year, $19.6 million. Does that mean Carr is going bye bye???

Stanford Routt To The Chiefs On Three-Year Deal - Arrowhead Pride (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/2/20/2812164/stanford-routt-free-agent-kansas-city-chiefs#comments)

jason1981
02-20-2012, 01:52 PM
i just read it on cbssportsline as well. i still woukd rather have carr so i hope we sign carr longterm as well. i think we might cuz we only signed routt to a three year deal. carr is just getting to his prime. think it would be foolish toet him go. now im nervous that we going to looose him.

nigeriannightmare
02-20-2012, 01:52 PM
Yeah we got a great deal three-year, $19.6 million. Does that mean Carr is going bye bye???

Stanford Routt To The Chiefs On Three-Year Deal - Arrowhead Pride (http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/2/20/2812164/stanford-routt-free-agent-kansas-city-chiefs#comments)

Looks like it, been reading that carl will be unwilling to spend the money other teams are gonna throw at him i would rather have liked to keep the brandons....

N TX Dave
02-20-2012, 02:01 PM
Maybe Carr and/or his agent gave the impression he did not want to stay here not saying he did but you never know. Maybe he wanted to go to a limelight town you know one with more nightlife.
I think the franchise tag will go on 82 now because we now know who we can afford to lose and if we don't sign Carr we have a replacement unlike if we lost Bowe.

matthewschiefs
02-20-2012, 02:02 PM
I think that if we can get Carr resigned that our Defense will be in the top 5 next year after this. I hope to get it done.

whackojacko58
02-20-2012, 02:07 PM
come one pioli bring back carr, i say if anything we need to lock bowe to a long term deal and slap the tag on carr. And i believe it could happen we didn't spend alot on routt. Wow never seen the chiefs as the first to sign a free agent right when the market opened

wolfpack
02-20-2012, 02:07 PM
cant see pioli signing carr now. thats alot of cash tied up on cb`s.
i guess dreaming tag carr,throw in a 2nd to rams for 2nd pick in draft. a new qb!

TopekaRoy
02-20-2012, 02:07 PM
That's "only" $6.5 million per year, so they still have plenty of room to sign Carr. My guess is that that is what they will try to do. If Carr gets a ridiculously high offer from another team (and he might) then the Chiefs can let him walk. They always have the option of extending Routt's deal if they lose Carr, and if they can keep him then they don't have too much money tied up in Routt.

If they do lose Carr, then they have even more cap space to work with than they did before!

Good job, Scott!

#58ChiefsFan
02-20-2012, 02:21 PM
The bad part of becoming a good team is now we may loose players we want to keep. It's a good insurance policy if Carr does end up leaving.

TopekaRoy
02-20-2012, 02:24 PM
The bad part of becoming a good team is now we may loose players we want to keep. It's a good insurance policy if Carr does end up leaving.

True dat! But I would much rather have too many good players to keep them all than not have enough good players to compete! :D

toyotapower
02-20-2012, 02:29 PM
I don't see this necessarily meaning that carr is gone. We have a ton of money to spend, we got routt for relatively cheap and we like to play nickel! Flowers, carr and routt would give us a lot of coverage sacks

brdempsey69
02-20-2012, 02:39 PM
I had heard rumors that Carr was wanting 14 million a year & if that is true then that's why this signing of Routt took place. No way are the Chiefs going to pay Carr 14 milllion a year. And you don't pay 6 million a year to guy like Routt to have him as a backup -- that is not going to happen. Routt will be designated as a starter opposite Brandon Flowers right from the get-go.

I suspect that a trade of Carr for a draft pick could be on the horizon.

Ryfo18
02-20-2012, 02:41 PM
I think it's very likely that Carr is gone. That said, I'll gladly take Routt over "unknown" as the every down Cornerback on the right side.

brdempsey69
02-20-2012, 02:45 PM
I think it's very likely that Carr is gone. That said, I'll gladly take Routt over "unknown" as the every down Cornerback on the right side.

Could be they have decided that Bowe is the guy they must keep -- and the Chiefs brass is right. Bowe must stay.

TopekaRoy
02-20-2012, 02:45 PM
More details on the signing from Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txchiefsroutt):


The person, speaking on condition of anonymity Monday because the team had not announced the deal, said the agreement includes a $4 million signing bonus and $6 million the first season.

Routt is still owed $5 million next month from the Raiders, who released him after the first year of a $54.4 million, five-year deal. Routt chose the Chiefs over competing offers from Buffalo, Cincinnati, Houston, New Orleans, Minnesota and Tennessee.

The signing bonus will be prorated over the 3 years, so Routt will take home $15 million this year and the cap hit is only $7.33 million.

Nice!

whackojacko58
02-20-2012, 02:49 PM
how much does brandon flowers make a year on his new contract?

brdempsey69
02-20-2012, 02:51 PM
how much does brandon flowers make a year on his new contract?

It was said Flowers had signed a 5-yr 50 million dollar contract. Not sure how that is being divvied up over those 5 years.

Ryfo18
02-20-2012, 02:53 PM
how much does brandon flowers make a year on his new contract?

Here's the breakdown of Carr's contract.

Brandon Flowers Contract, Salaries, and Transactions (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/brandon-flowers/)

whackojacko58
02-20-2012, 03:03 PM
with flowers and routts contracts, i think theres plenty of room to bring back carr if the price is right, id still like us to atleast franchise him

matthewschiefs
02-20-2012, 03:24 PM
with flowers and routts contracts, i think theres plenty of room to bring back carr if the price is right, id still like us to atleast franchise him

I think the best news we could here the rest of the week is that they have locked Bowe up then I think we will see them franchise Carr. And this team will be in real good shape as long as we get the oline and qb help we need

whackojacko58
02-20-2012, 03:27 PM
I think the best news we could here the rest of the week is that they have locked Bowe up then I think we will see them franchise Carr. And this team will be in real good shape as long as we get the oline and qb help we need

:bananen_smilies046: building on that plan, draft line and bring in qb competition *cough* manning *cough* :beat_DeadHorse: :yahoo:

SIC J
02-20-2012, 03:37 PM
I had heard rumors that Carr was wanting 14 million a year & if that is true then that's why this signing of Routt took place. No way are the Chiefs going to pay Carr 14 milllion a year. And you don't pay 6 million a year to guy like Routt to have him as a backup -- that is not going to happen. Routt will be designated as a starter opposite Brandon Flowers right from the get-go.

I suspect that a trade of Carr for a draft pick could be on the horizon.

LOL. No way in hell Carr is worth $14 mil a year. If he wants that much, he lost his damn mind.

#58ChiefsFan
02-20-2012, 04:00 PM
LOL. No way in hell Carr is worth $14 mil a year. If he wants that much, he lost his damn mind.

THIS!

N TX Dave
02-20-2012, 04:42 PM
I think the signing of Routtis great it puts pressure on both Carr and Bowe to sign knowing that one of them will be franchised and Bowe now knows that it is more than likely him because we have Carr's replacement so if he can get a contract at or above his tag price he will sign. I think Carr wants to try the market to see if he can get his $14 million.

I might be over thinking this?

whackojacko58
02-20-2012, 05:07 PM
you bring up some good points

N TX Dave
02-20-2012, 05:37 PM
I forgot to say that if Bowe does sign that leaves the tag for Carr a win win win for the Chiefs. They keep both of their top FA and sign a 3rd CB so they can go to the nickle and dime more.

Three7s
02-20-2012, 06:27 PM
Think about this for a sec. The Chiefs tag Carr and he stays means that we have two three #1 CBs, one of them as the nickel, and Arenas as the dime. That's one hell of a secondary. If we trade Carr, we get picks for the draft, and not chump ones.

I would, under no circumstances, just let him walk.

matthewschiefs
02-20-2012, 06:49 PM
I think the signing of Routtis great it puts pressure on both Carr and Bowe to sign knowing that one of them will be franchised and Bowe now knows that it is more than likely him because we have Carr's replacement so if he can get a contract at or above his tag price he will sign. I think Carr wants to try the market to see if he can get his $14 million.

I might be over thinking this?

There is anther side. Bowe will know that they can't just keep putting the tag on him. He will at some point be able to go out and see how much he can get in the free agent market. I think he would be willing to take a tag this year is he thinks he can get more long term

2010chiefs
02-20-2012, 08:03 PM
They have to re-sign either Bowe or Carr. Then we franchise the other. Best secondary in the NFL if that happens. Way to be active Chiefs!

Canada
02-20-2012, 08:29 PM
Looks like it, been reading that carl will be unwilling to spend the money other teams are gonna throw at him i would rather have liked to keep the brandons....Carls has been gone a while now. Just sayin'

#58ChiefsFan
02-20-2012, 08:57 PM
If the Chiefs want to make a statement in free agency then resign Carr. Prove you brought Routt in for competition and keep our defense intact. I don't think Brandon is all about the money but I don't blame him for seeing what's available.

Tag Bowe and hope Daboll can put together an offense he wants to stay for.

TopekaRoy
02-20-2012, 09:11 PM
If the Chiefs want to make a statement in free agency then resign Carr.

I think the Chiefs will make every effort to resign Carr, but it's not up to them, it's up to him. Carr knows he will be a hot commodity in free agency and even if the Chiefs make him the highest offer, that doesn't mean he has to take it.

My hope is that he wants to stay in Kansas City, but I can understand why he would want to see how much money he could make on the open market. He will be among the highest paid players in FA this year and NFL careers are short. He has to strike while the iron is hot.

[Edited to add] My guess is that some team will be desperate enough to over pay Carr by a significant amount (which is probably what he is hoping for). I want to keep him, but not at any cost. I would be willing to overpay a little bit as a reward for his past services, though.

The Chiefs have made a very smart move in securing Routt, and I hope they can get Carr on board, too. But don't expect to hear anything soon.

chief31
02-20-2012, 09:13 PM
Carr is outta here.

He was a later-round draft pick, making very little for the work he was doing. He will be wanting to get his one big contract, before anything unfortunate can happen to ruin it all for him.

He will get rewarded handsomely on the free agent market.

I would have preferred to have kept Carr. He has grown into his role with this defense exquisitely. But I am compelled to believe that he is out to make sure he gets the best deal he can. And some other team will be willing to give more than The Chiefs will be willing to give.

#58ChiefsFan
02-20-2012, 09:14 PM
When is it march 13 or so?

nigeriannightmare
02-20-2012, 09:24 PM
Carls has been gone a while now. Just sayin'

Meant clark. Im a case in brother.

chiefnut
02-20-2012, 09:26 PM
If the Chiefs want to make a statement in free agency then resign Carr. Prove you brought Routt in for competition and keep our defense intact. I don't think Brandon is all about the money but I don't blame him for seeing what's available.

Tag Bowe and hope Daboll can put together an offense he wants to stay for.


that is exactly what he is about, and about 95% of the rest of the players. he also wants to get on a team closer to the championship if possible.

70 chiefsfan70
02-20-2012, 09:35 PM
This is a good move on the Chiefs part. I would say its highly unlikely the Chiefs were or will be able to sign Carr,and with Routt off the market Carr is more valuable and we would be able to get more out of him if we franchise him.

It would be a shame to see Carr walk, and get nothing in return.

I still think the Chiefs would get a better draft pick franchising Carr then they would with Bowe. Mainly because Carr is coming off of a great year and Bowe is not.

2010chiefs
02-20-2012, 10:13 PM
Let's not forget that Routt was considered a No.1 CB in Oakland and didn't meet their expectations. Played pretty good but still allowed the second most yards in the NFL. Now he will be coming in as a No.2 CB with the Chiefs. This means we have two No.1 CB's on the field. Carr was good and is expecting No.1 CB money which us Chiefs fans know he doesn't deserve. I would love to keep him, but he doesn't deserve No.1 CB pay. I think we got a steal in Routt for a No.2 CB. With Flowers taking the load off of him, I think he shines in K.C. GO CHIEFS!

whackojacko58
02-20-2012, 10:32 PM
Let's not forget that Routt was considered a No.1 CB in Oakland and didn't meet their expectations. Played pretty good but still allowed the second most yards in the NFL. Now he will be coming in as a No.2 CB with the Chiefs. This means we have two No.1 CB's on the field. Carr was good and is expecting No.1 CB money which us Chiefs fans know he doesn't deserve. I would love to keep him, but he doesn't deserve No.1 CB pay. I think we got a steal in Routt for a No.2 CB. With Flowers taking the load off of him, I think he shines in K.C. GO CHIEFS!

the only thing i'm worried about with routt is the penaltys, yes its a raider thing but he was one of the worst. I like the move alot and pioli and crennel are smart they arent going to just throw money at people to come here, plus i LOVE having a rival on our team a.k.a. marcus allen and eddie kennison. They always show up again there former teams.:chiefs:

jap1
02-20-2012, 11:18 PM
the only thing i'm worried about with routt is the penaltys, yes its a raider thing but he was one of the worst. I like the move alot and pioli and crennel are smart they arent going to just throw money at people to come here, plus i LOVE having a rival on our team a.k.a. marcus allen and eddie kennison. They always show up again there former teams.:chiefs:

Does anyone know what his stats were 2 years ago we he had asomugha on the other side of him? It may be the case that he couldn't handle then #1 WRs by himself. Put him against the #2s then maybe he becomes a lock down corner.

I think this was a good move by the front office. Routt MAY not be as good as Carr (or they are equally good #2 CBs. Getting this deal done so early means that we have a lot more flexibility in dealing with Bowe and other free agents.

AussieChiefsFan
02-21-2012, 12:04 AM
Good sign! I hope we still sign Carr though!

dbolan
02-21-2012, 09:40 AM
I think the Chiefs will make every effort to resign Carr, but it's not up to them, it's up to him. Carr knows he will be a hot commodity in free agency and even if the Chiefs make him the highest offer, that doesn't mean he has to take it.

My hope is that he wants to stay in Kansas City, but I can understand why he would want to see how much money he could make on the open market. He will be among the highest paid players in FA this year and NFL careers are short. He has to strike while the iron is hot.

[Edited to add] My guess is that some team will be desperate enough to over pay Carr by a significant amount (which is probably what he is hoping for). I want to keep him, but not at any cost. I would be willing to overpay a little bit as a reward for his past services, though.

The Chiefs have made a very smart move in securing Routt, and I hope they can get Carr on board, too. But don't expect to hear anything soon.

Carr will probably go to the Raiders! lol

TopekaRoy
02-21-2012, 09:49 AM
Carr will probably go to the Raiders! lol

Boy, I hope not! :whipping1:

I don't think they can afford him. Isn't that a big part of the reason they released Routt?

If we can't keep him (and I really hope we do), I want him as far away from the Chiefs as possible, preferably in the NFC.

Lets see ...

The Bears weren't real happy with Brandon Meriweather. I wonder if they might want to replace him with another Brandon? ....

Canada
02-21-2012, 10:18 AM
Meant clark. Im a case in brother....and you didnt call me?? :bananen_smilies046:

Ryfo18
02-21-2012, 10:26 AM
I would love to keep him, but he doesn't deserve No.1 CB pay.

I disagree here. Carr has elevated himself into one of the better cornerbacks in the league, and has pretty much served as a #1 corner for the Chiefs. Before you go correcting me, I know Flowers is better. But the Chiefs, unlike many teams, don't move Flowers around to cover the best WR on the field. Carr gets his fair share of top WR's as well.

Perhaps one of the high points of this season was weeks 11-15 when the Chiefs held the likes of Welker, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Santonio Holmes, and Jordy Nelson to a combined 12 receptions for 161 yards and 1 TD. Carr had a lot to do with that, and I have no doubt that he will continue to function as a #1 CB whether he stays or goes.


Does anyone know what his stats were 2 years ago we he had asomugha on the other side of him? It may be the case that he couldn't handle then #1 WRs by himself. Put him against the #2s then maybe he becomes a lock down corner.

I think this was a good move by the front office. Routt MAY not be as good as Carr (or they are equally good #2 CBs. Getting this deal done so early means that we have a lot more flexibility in dealing with Bowe and other free agents.

Routt's stats do look somewhat better in 2010. Fewer penalties (11 in 2010 vs 17 in 2011) and a lower QB rating when thrown at (69.0 in 2010, 82.4 in 2011). Plus, he's going to be in a much better "scheme" so to say under Romeo. (Source: ProFootballFocus Subscription Service)

Plus, is there any doubt that his penalty numbers won't go down after he's not a Raider?:raisux:

OPLookn
02-21-2012, 11:41 AM
Carr will probably go to the Raiders! lol

Actually there are some rumblings about Carr going to the Raiders. Some are talking about him going to San Diego though...Bill Williamson among them.

"Will the AFC West cornerback domino continue to fall?

With the Kansas City Chiefs signing cornerback Stanford Routt on Monday, it all but guarantees that Brandon Carr will walk as a free agent. Routt -- who the the Raiders released earlier this month -- signed a three-year, $19.6 million deal with the Chiefs on Monday. Last season the Chiefs signed No. 1 cornerback Brandon Flowers to a five-year, $52 million deal. There is little chance the Chiefs will give Carr, who will likely command $7-9 million a year, a big deal.

With Routt staying in the AFC West, will Carr follow suit? Let’s see if he fits elsewhere in the division.

Denver Broncos: I thought Denver would be the favorite in the division to land Routt, but the Broncos reportedly never had any interest. Carr could pair nicely with the aging Champ Bailey for the short term. The Broncos could then have Carr take over as the No.1 cornerback if Bailey is eventually moved to safety. The Broncos have cap room and I could see them looking at Carr.

Oakland Raiders: Could this situation end with Routt in Kansas City and Carr in Oakland? Sure, but it may be difficult for the Raiders, who still need to get under the salary cap, to win a bidding war. There will be no doubt that Carr will be on the Raiders’ wish list as the cornerback position is Oakland's greatest need. There are several other cornerbacks available though. I could see the Raiders ending up with someone like New Orleans’ Tracy Porter, who played for new Oakland coach Dennis Allen with the Saints, more than Carr.

San Diego Chargers: I think this is the least likely scenario in the division. The Chargers like Antoine Cason and he could get an extension at some point. The Chargers simply have bigger needs to spend big money on this season."

Could Brandon Carr stay in the AFC West? - AFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/40079/could-brandon-carr-stay-in-the-afc-west)

okikcfan
02-21-2012, 11:42 AM
First of all I don't think Carr will go to the Raiders because it will cost them, the main reason they cut Routt. Second who's to say with Routt we don't keep Carr? Look at the back field we would have. Man to man coverage would be Awesome! I for one am just going to sit back and see what Pioli and Crennel are up to. This could be a very good off season for the Chiefs and there Fans! One we have been waiting for and wanting for far too long.......

OPLookn
02-21-2012, 12:27 PM
First of all I don't think Carr will go to the Raiders because it will cost them, the main reason they cut Routt. Second who's to say with Routt we don't keep Carr? Look at the back field we would have. Man to man coverage would be Awesome! I for one am just going to sit back and see what Pioli and Crennel are up to. This could be a very good off season for the Chiefs and there Fans! One we have been waiting for and wanting for far too long.......

It would be absolutely awesome to keep Carr. The backfield we'd have would be insane! However I don't see us paying someone 6.3 million a year to ride the pine and play situation downs when last year he was a #1 CB. My problem with this is that Routt got a 3 year contract. He'll be 31 when his contract is up. A year later Flowers contract is up and he'll be 30.

Granted we'll have 3 years to start looking for replacements I just think it's interesting that we didn't get Carr and give him a 5 year contract or something and then either have him for a #2 for a couple of years or put him at a #1 if needs be because of Flowers.

Overall, not a bad signing and I think it'll be interesting to see Routt in a Chiefs uniform.

okikcfan
02-21-2012, 12:53 PM
Shortly after hearing the news that the Kansas City Chiefs had signed CB Stanford Routt, the reaction by many fans was that this means the end of the Brandon Carr era in Kansas City.

That's not necessarily the case, Chiefs GM Scott Pioli told Steven St. John and Nate Bukaty on 810 WHB this morning.



"I'll say this," Pioli said, "the signing of Stanford Routt does not impact where we're at with Brandon Carr. As a matter of fact, Romeo [Crennel] and I both reached out to Brandon yesterday as this was unfolding and talked to him. I spoke personally with Brandon, and without getting into the details of that conversation, but he knows, and he's known before, he's someone we want to keep here, and he's still someone we want to keep a Chief.

"This signing doesn't eliminate the feelings that we have for Brandon and how we want to have him here. He knows that. He wants to be here. We want him here. If both sides find a deal that makes sense for one another, we'd love to have Brandon back."

That's true. I believe the Chiefs want him back. But, let's be honest, the Routt signing makes it a lot less likely Carr is going to return.

Stanford Routt: 'I don't see why we can't win'
"This happens every year," Pioli said, "there's a couple players, or a player or two, that are good, quality players that end up on the street and they're available prior to free agency and you have an opportunity to make a decision or not.

"Knowing where we're at with the cap situation and knowing some of the plans and things that might happen with our roster...we want to try and keep Brandon here. Nothing was done yet so we saw an opportunity with a player on a very fair contract who really wanted to be a Chief. And we thought it would be a good marriage."

Pioli and Carr's camp will continue talking in the hopes of getting something done. I doubt something does happen, but they won't cut off communications.

Pioli also recognized that the Chiefs are playing with fire by signing Routt, who is a former Raider.

"Him being a former Raider," Pioli said of Routt, "we're trying to clean up his life a little bit and get him out here as a Kansas City Chief. We're trying to make an honest man out of him!" (Yes, of course he was kidding.)

dbolan
02-21-2012, 01:46 PM
Shortly after hearing the news that the Kansas City Chiefs had signed CB Stanford Routt, the reaction by many fans was that this means the end of the Brandon Carr era in Kansas City.

That's not necessarily the case, Chiefs GM Scott Pioli told Steven St. John and Nate Bukaty on 810 WHB this morning.



"I'll say this," Pioli said, "the signing of Stanford Routt does not impact where we're at with Brandon Carr. As a matter of fact, Romeo [Crennel] and I both reached out to Brandon yesterday as this was unfolding and talked to him. I spoke personally with Brandon, and without getting into the details of that conversation, but he knows, and he's known before, he's someone we want to keep here, and he's still someone we want to keep a Chief.

"This signing doesn't eliminate the feelings that we have for Brandon and how we want to have him here. He knows that. He wants to be here. We want him here. If both sides find a deal that makes sense for one another, we'd love to have Brandon back."

That's true. I believe the Chiefs want him back. But, let's be honest, the Routt signing makes it a lot less likely Carr is going to return.

Stanford Routt: 'I don't see why we can't win'
"This happens every year," Pioli said, "there's a couple players, or a player or two, that are good, quality players that end up on the street and they're available prior to free agency and you have an opportunity to make a decision or not.

"Knowing where we're at with the cap situation and knowing some of the plans and things that might happen with our roster...we want to try and keep Brandon here. Nothing was done yet so we saw an opportunity with a player on a very fair contract who really wanted to be a Chief. And we thought it would be a good marriage."

Pioli and Carr's camp will continue talking in the hopes of getting something done. I doubt something does happen, but they won't cut off communications.

Pioli also recognized that the Chiefs are playing with fire by signing Routt, who is a former Raider.

"Him being a former Raider," Pioli said of Routt, "we're trying to clean up his life a little bit and get him out here as a Kansas City Chief. We're trying to make an honest man out of him!" (Yes, of course he was kidding.)

Uummm..Spygate? lmao

TopekaRoy
02-21-2012, 06:11 PM
He wants to be here. We want him here. If both sides find a deal that makes sense for one another, we'd love to have Brandon back."

I found that whole story very encouraging, but particularly the above quote.

I'm afraid Carr is going to get a ridiculously high offer from someone and it just won't make sense for the Chiefs to match it. They have a lot of cap space, but they also have a lot of players to sign.

It's good to see that both sides want Carr to stay in KC, but it still may be a long shot, and at any rate, it's going to be a while before a decision is made.

I'm really glad Pioli had a solid back-up plan.

dbolan
02-22-2012, 08:06 AM
I found that whole story very encouraging, but particularly the above quote.

I'm afraid Carr is going to get a ridiculously high offer from someone and it just won't make sense for the Chiefs to match it. They have a lot of cap space, but they also have a lot of players to sign.

It's good to see that both sides want Carr to stay in KC, but it still may be a long shot, and at any rate, it's going to be a while before a decision is made.

I'm really glad Pioli had a solid back-up plan.

Roy..you know that is nothing more than politics!! lol

Of course the Chiefs want him and sure, Carr had rather stay instead of moving..But the $$ Has to be there

TopekaRoy
02-22-2012, 09:50 AM
Roy..you know that is nothing more than politics!! lol

Of course the Chiefs want him and sure, Carr had rather stay instead of moving..But the $$ Has to be there

I understand that, but why do you have to put such a negative spin on it? The same could be said about Kyle Orton, but it isn't being said about him.

I already said getting him to stay was a long shot, but I am encouraged by the fact that they are going to at least try to re-sign Carr.

Don't be such a

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-52YT9zp5YSI/Tf6mhAOUSSI/AAAAAAAAAis/X3JZnwvzZJ4/s1600/Debbie+Downer.jpg

okikcfan
02-22-2012, 10:39 AM
I understand that, but why do you have to put such a negative spin on it? The same could be said about Kyle Orton, but it isn't being said about him.

I already said getting him to stay was a long shot, but I am encouraged by the fact that they are going to at least try to re-sign Carr.

Don't be such a

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-52YT9zp5YSI/Tf6mhAOUSSI/AAAAAAAAAis/X3JZnwvzZJ4/s1600/Debbie+Downer.jpg

I agree. Being a Chiefs fan for many years this is the first time in a long time I really have a good feeling about the direction this team is going. Retain Carr we would have an AWESOME backfield, beef up the front lines, competition at QB, injured players back add another solid pass rusher, I can't wait....:yahoo:

Jrudi
02-22-2012, 11:03 AM
One thing to keep in mind is that Carr and Flowers are extremely close friends from what I understand... and Carr has been quoted to want to stay in KC and loves the fans here, and the organization...

Let's hope that Flowers may be able to persuade him to return!

dbolan
02-22-2012, 01:19 PM
I understand that, but why do you have to put such a negative spin on it? The same could be said about Kyle Orton, but it isn't being said about him.

I already said getting him to stay was a long shot, but I am encouraged by the fact that they are going to at least try to re-sign Carr.

Don't be such a

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-52YT9zp5YSI/Tf6mhAOUSSI/AAAAAAAAAis/X3JZnwvzZJ4/s1600/Debbie+Downer.jpg

Roy, I said it with an LOL and here you go again. Jeeesh!

I am more of a realist. It is nothing more than a joust between the player and the ownership. Politics. Like I SAID, I am sure both want it to happen and neither wants to actually say "money is the key" when ALL of us know that is the deciding factor.

Take off the rose-colored glasses

TopekaRoy
02-22-2012, 01:32 PM
Roy, I said it with an LOL and here you go again. Jeeesh!

Oh, I know. My reply was meant in a light-hearted manner, as well. I apologize if it came off harsher than I intended in print.

I was just teasin' you a bit. :smile

texaschief
02-23-2012, 03:54 AM
Routt and his 4.3 speed would look pretty nice back there at free safety next to Berry...

Berry
Routt
Flowers
Carr
Arenas

... on the field together the majority of the time. Throw in DJ, Hali, and Houston. You know TJ is there to stay. Just need a young stud ILB and NT to finish off the defense.

AussieChiefsFan
02-23-2012, 04:11 AM
Routt and his 4.3 speed would look pretty nice back there at free safety next to Berry...

Berry
Routt
Flowers
Carr
Arenas

... on the field together the majority of the time. Throw in DJ, Hali, and Houston. You know TJ is there to stay. Just need a young stud ILB and NT to finish off the defense.

Elite Defense comin' right up :D

dbolan
02-23-2012, 09:09 AM
Oh, I know. My reply was meant in a light-hearted manner, as well. I apologize if it came off harsher than I intended in print.

I was just teasin' you a bit. :smile

No worries! Cheers! :bananen_smilies046:

dbolan
02-23-2012, 09:12 AM
Routt and his 4.3 speed would look pretty nice back there at free safety next to Berry...

Berry
Routt
Flowers
Carr
Arenas

... on the field together the majority of the time. Throw in DJ, Hali, and Houston. You know TJ is there to stay. Just need a young stud ILB and NT to finish off the defense.

With that line-up..Prepare to see Berry and Arenas seriously lighting some receivers UP!!!

pojote
02-23-2012, 03:13 PM
Routt and his 4.3 speed would look pretty nice back there at free safety next to Berry...

Berry
Routt
Flowers
Carr
Arenas

... on the field together the majority of the time. Throw in DJ, Hali, and Houston. You know TJ is there to stay. Just need a young stud ILB and NT to finish off the defense.

What I like most of this pack, there's no way that we can give a 20+ yards run. Blitz threat is another good upside.

jap1
02-24-2012, 02:04 AM
Routt and his 4.3 speed would look pretty nice back there at free safety next to Berry...

Berry
Routt
Flowers
Carr
Arenas

... on the field together the majority of the time. Throw in DJ, Hali, and Houston. You know TJ is there to stay. Just need a young stud ILB and NT to finish off the defense.

I was thinking about this myself the other night. My concern would be that Rout has always been praised for his man coverage skills. I never really heard anything about his zone coverage skills. A FS plays more like a zone than a man-man. Do you think his skills would translate well to FS?

AussieChiefsFan
02-26-2012, 03:16 AM
I know this is off topic, but I was playing madden:

http://i.imgur.com/xLmaE.jpg

josh1971
02-26-2012, 08:08 PM
Routt and his 4.3 speed would look pretty nice back there at free safety next to Berry...

Berry
Routt
Flowers
Carr
Arenas

... on the field together the majority of the time. Throw in DJ, Hali, and Houston. You know TJ is there to stay. Just need a young stud ILB and NT to finish off the defense.

Kendrick Lewis doesn't exactly hurt the Defense.

jason1981
02-27-2012, 03:07 AM
use routt as nick back and he can sub in for carr and flowers to keep everyone fresh.