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sling58
10-07-2007, 08:11 AM
Anyone know the answer. Google Chiefster, Google!

sling58
10-07-2007, 10:29 AM
HAS THEIR EVER BEEN A FORFEIT IN THE NFL?


By Bob Carroll
The Coffin Corner Volume XIX, Number 6
The recent unpleasantness at the Chargers-Giants game where the iceball-throwing by fans became so dangerous that a forfeit to San Diego was threatened sent fans and historians scurrying to the record book looking for a previous forfeit. They found none.
But only because they were looking in the wrong place.
They should have checked the Washington Post of December 5, 1921. There on the sports page they could see the headline:
ROCHESTER ELEVEN FORFEITS TO PROS.
Of course, not too many fans remember that the Rochester Jeffersons were members of the league from 1920 through 1925. And even some historians may not know that a Washington team, variously called the "Pros" or "Senators," was in the league in 1921. Nevertheless, both those long gone elevens had league franchises on December 4, 1921. And when they didn't play, there was a forfeit. The Post story explains it all:
Tim Jordan's local professional football team was awarded yesterday's contest by Referee C.A. Metsler when the Rochester Jeffersons refused to take the field on account of weather conditions. Manager Lyons, of the visiting team, had all of the advertised stars on hand, but would not risk their injuring themselves on account of slipping on the snow-covered field.
The contract signed by the visitors contains a clause to the effect "that if both teams have arrived on the field of play, and it is found that said field is too wet for play, the question of cancellation shall rest solely with the manager of the home team."
As Manager Jordan had his Washington team on hand, and felt that he should not disappoint the 400 or so faithful fans who were on hand. In view of the Jeffs' refusal to take the field, there was nothing left for Referee Metsler to do but give the locals the game, 1 to 0, which he did after 40 minutes of argument.
The "40 minutes of argument" indicates the forfeit was not declared precipitously, and the quoted terms in the contract leave no doubt that the decision to forfeit was correct.
So how come the game doesn't show up in the record book?
Well, for starters, back in 1921 -- a mere 75 years ago -- there wasn't any record book. In fact, the league, then called the American Professional Football Association, didn't publish weekly standings. Apparently, "final standings" for 1921 weren't published until thirty years later when they were reconstructed from scattered and incomplete team records and dimming memories. And, even in those very flawed standings, only teams that played at least six games against other league members were included. That wiped out Washington which faced only three league opponents (not counting Rochester) during the season. Not that they didn't keep busy. The Pros/Senators played thirteen times but mostly against such noted pro football juggernauts as Clarksburg (W.Va.), Wilmington (Del.), Richmond (Va.), and Lancaster (Pa.).
Ironically, Rochester was credited with eight league games in the reconstructed 1921 standings when in fact they played only five league opponents plus the forfeit.
A few years ago, the Elias Sports Bureau, keeper of the NFL's records, huddled with historians and repaired the early standings. They got it almost all right -- except for the forfeit.
The National Football League -- the new name was adopted in 1922 -- remembered for a year or so. At the league meeting, the team owners resolved that Washington had to pay Rochester its $800 guarantee for showing up on that snowy day the previous December. Should Tim Jordan's team not pay, said the league, Washington would be expelled. The warning didn't bother Jordan. He'd already decided to drop out of the league and hadn't bothered to attend the owners meeting. An NFL franchise just wasn't worth $800.

sling58
10-07-2007, 10:30 AM
I found the answer for my own question.

Chiefster
10-07-2007, 10:46 AM
Tim Jordan's local professional football team was awarded yesterday's contest by Referee C.A. Metsler when the Rochester Jeffersons refused to take the field on account of weather conditions. Manager Lyons, of the visiting team, had all of the advertised stars on hand, but would not risk their injuring themselves on account of slipping on the snow-covered field.

Wimps!

Guru
10-07-2007, 10:19 PM
I think we should be the second.

hermhater
10-07-2007, 10:32 PM
I think we should be the second.

Today was embarrassing.

tammietailgator
10-07-2007, 10:41 PM
I think we should be the second.
Do we have to wait til it snows??

hermhater
10-07-2007, 10:48 PM
No forfeits for us.

We are still in second place in the division, and we can make something happen if we use our talent.

I have seen so much talent on this team this year, if Solari and Herm would get their heads out of their behinds and use it we would be sitting very pretty.

Where was our best receiver during the first half. How do you not throw to Dbowe after what he has shown us?

tammietailgator
10-07-2007, 10:53 PM
You are right! We need to have faith.... Herm needs to make sure the fans never boo again like today.

sling58
10-08-2007, 07:28 AM
No forfeits for us.

We are still in second place in the division, and we can make something happen if we use our talent.

I have seen so much talent on this team this year, if Solari and Herm would get their heads out of their behinds and use it we would be sitting very pretty.

Where was our best receiver during the first half. How do you not throw to Dbowe after what he has shown us?

I hate to say it but I think Herm gives Solari the go ahead on play calling. He needs to take that back and check the play before he allows it to go on the field. Solari sucks.

As for Dbowe, did we forget he was on OUR TEAM. ROW to weeks in a row and you don't go to him more. That's like taking the bicycle to a race when you have a Ferrari parked in the garage.

chief31
10-08-2007, 08:40 AM
I hate to say it but I think Herm gives Solari the go ahead on play calling. He needs to take that back and check the play before he allows it to go on the field. Solari sucks.

As for Dbowe, did we forget he was on OUR TEAM. ROW to weeks in a row and you don't go to him more. That's like taking the bicycle to a race when you have a Ferrari parked in the garage.

As a general rule, the offensive coordinator sends in a play, to the head coach, who relays it to his quarterback. (See the Cowboys "37 stretch, far laaaawwwwnnn." commercial.) But I don't think that Solari is capable of doing his job properly. The head coach can't see the plays, the same way a coordinator does, from above the field. Thereofre, the coordinator is the guy who has to be able to see what the opponents have been doing and know how to take advantage of it. That hasn't been happening. Rather that is Herm dictating, from the sideline, what to do, or if Solari is just confused, can be speculated about, but I am leaning toward placing the blame on Solari.

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 09:43 AM
Anyone know the answer. Google Chiefster, Google!


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