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marloweopatchiefs
02-25-2012, 08:12 PM
Source -- Kansas City Chiefs will franchise Dwayne Bowe if two sides can't reach deal - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7615420/source-kansas-city-chiefs-franchise-dwayne-bowe-two-sides-reach-deal)

Jrudi
02-26-2012, 12:06 AM
I guess this is good news...

At least we know he will be here for next year. I hope we lock him up soon! wouldn't want him to just be here for one more year and leave

Would be nice to lock him up soon and tag Carr

Chiefster
02-27-2012, 03:05 AM
I don't know; it is what it is.

70 chiefsfan70
02-27-2012, 08:34 AM
I don't know; it is what it is.


Very true! I couldn't agree with you more!

But, what is it?

azchiefsfan
02-27-2012, 08:53 AM
Obviously, time will tell. If history is a guide, if Bowe won't sign a long-term deal, then franchising him would be a move to trade him for draft picks or to trade for more cap space. Hunt has let it be known it's time to fish or cut bait and if Bowe doesn't show some flexibility, he is worth more for what we can get for him in the market than what he can do on the field. If he is franchised, I predict he will be traded shortly thereafter.

Jrudi
02-27-2012, 10:56 AM
Obviously, time will tell. If history is a guide, if Bowe won't sign a long-term deal, then franchising him would be a move to trade him for draft picks or to trade for more cap space. Hunt has let it be known it's time to fish or cut bait and if Bowe doesn't show some flexibility, he is worth more for what we can get for him in the market than what he can do on the field. If he is franchised, I predict he will be traded shortly thereafter.

I'm not sure if this is exactly a sign that Bowe is not willing to work or being needy during contract negotiations.

There are a number of factors that go into this like possibly waiting to see what some other FA WR's will get, maybe he wants to see how that works out as leverage in the contract talks. It's not uncommon for this to happen. It happened with Hali last season, and he was perfectly happy here.

There is a lot that goes into contract talks, especially if the player is one of the tops in the league.

Not sure we should take this as a sign that he is being uncooperative , more of a sign that the Chiefs really do want to keep him here, and that is just the strategy they have to go with at this moment.

OPLookn
02-27-2012, 11:36 AM
Obviously, time will tell. If history is a guide, if Bowe won't sign a long-term deal, then franchising him would be a move to trade him for draft picks or to trade for more cap space. Hunt has let it be known it's time to fish or cut bait and if Bowe doesn't show some flexibility, he is worth more for what we can get for him in the market than what he can do on the field. If he is franchised, I predict he will be traded shortly thereafter.

A bold prediction but I'll go with it. Next question is where do you think he'll go and what do you think he'd fetch? Next question after that is who do we replace him with? Perhaps go after Colston?

azchiefsfan
02-27-2012, 12:15 PM
San Francisco or Dallas would be the two I would see in a bidding war-possibly Baltimore, but they are hitting too high on the cap I would think. I think he'd get full salary + a lower 1st or higher second round pick.

OPLookn
02-27-2012, 12:20 PM
San Francisco or Dallas would be the two I would see in a bidding war-possibly Baltimore, but they are hitting too high on the cap I would think. I think he'd get full salary + a lower 1st or higher second round pick.

I could see San Fran, especially with there being reports of people from the team talking to Bowe earlier this year. With them having the 30th overall pick they'd be in the place to give us that in return. Just not sure I'd want to set back our receiving core so much by getting rid of our best receiver and also the most productive which of course usually goes hand in hand. lol

Who would you pick up with our new 1st round pick? Do you get a new shiny receiver in the draft with that 30th or do you go FA? If so who?

azchiefsfan
02-27-2012, 01:00 PM
I think we beef up the offensive line with all high picks and grab some undervalued wide receivers out of FA. I would wait and see who's still available in FA just before the draft before making any big moves on a WR.

jason1981
02-27-2012, 01:26 PM
we need a wr that csn be a threat so defenses dont stack up on line. it woukd hurt our run game if we dont have bowe who has gained respect. dont know if id like coltson

TopekaRoy
02-27-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm not sure if this is exactly a sign that Bowe is not willing to work or being needy during contract negotiations.

There are a number of factors that go into this like possibly waiting to see what some other FA WR's will get, maybe he wants to see how that works out as leverage in the contract talks. It's not uncommon for this to happen. It happened with Hali last season, and he was perfectly happy here.

There is a lot that goes into contract talks, especially if the player is one of the tops in the league.

Not sure we should take this as a sign that he is being uncooperative , more of a sign that the Chiefs really do want to keep him here, and that is just the strategy they have to go with at this moment.

I agree with this post. It would be foolish (and I don't think his agent would let him, anyway) for Bowe to accept any offer from the Chiefs right now. He knows he will get tagged. The Chiefs will franchise him and other teams will put in bids.

Then the Chiefs have to decide whether Bowe is worth the highest offer, or offer him slightly less and see if he takes it. Bowe will have to decide whether he wants to take the highest offer or take a little less to stay with the team he loves.

Worst case scenario: Bowe gets huge offer from another team. We keep him here one more year with franchise tag and let him go at the end of next season and get high draft pick as compensation.

Regardless, Bowe will be a Chief this fall.

TopekaRoy
02-27-2012, 01:59 PM
we need a wr that csn be a threat so defenses dont stack up on line. it woukd hurt our run game if we dont have bowe who has gained respect. dont know if id like coltson

I agree. Bowe helps our run game and Charles helps our pass game. It's critical to this offense that we have that dual threat. But, it'll be okay. Bowe isn't going anywhere this year.

kcvet
02-27-2012, 02:19 PM
does this mean he can drop all the pass's he want's ???

Chiefster
02-28-2012, 09:22 AM
does this mean he can drop all the pass's he want's ???

:lol:

dbolan
02-28-2012, 10:08 AM
I agree. Bowe helps our run game and Charles helps our pass game. It's critical to this offense that we have that dual threat. But, it'll be okay. Bowe isn't going anywhere this year.

I agree with that but just keep in mind that Charles will not be 100% this year and we will need help in the RB arena. We need a back that can run between the tackles AND bounce it outside.

Just sayin....

TopekaRoy
02-28-2012, 12:51 PM
I agree with that but just keep in mind that Charles will not be 100% this year and we will need help in the RB arena. We need a back that can run between the tackles AND bounce it outside.

Just sayin....

You don't know that for sure. He will have almost a year to recover from his injury. It still wouldn't hurt to pick up a power running back.

I find it ironic that everyone is saying we need a running back because Charles might not be 100%, but they are ready to sign a QB that we know is not anywhere close to 100%!

Just sayin' ...

dbolan
02-28-2012, 01:38 PM
You don't know that for sure. He will have almost a year to recover from his injury. It still wouldn't hurt to pick up a power running back.

I find it ironic that everyone is saying we need a running back because Charles might not be 100%, but they are ready to sign a QB that we know is not anywhere close to 100%!

Just sayin' ...

And you don't know that he will!

I have had knee surgery (2 of them) and have a general idea of how it goes afterward, plus I have yet to know of anyone tha has come back from a knee injury like his and be 100% "within" 1 years and it's been pretty much a consensus from folks that have had them that it takes about 18-24 months to get back to full throttle after ligament repair.

KristofLaw
02-29-2012, 12:09 PM
I'm hoping the Chiefs and Bowe can come to an agreement first so the tag can be used elsewhere (Carr perhaps). It depends a great deal on the remaining actions in free agency and the draft... time will tell. If anything it has to be used if Bowe doesn't sign, though I cannot see why he wouldn't unless he has a childhood dream of playing for someone else, it seems to me he enjoys it on the Chiefs, no?!

OPLookn
02-29-2012, 01:24 PM
I'm hoping the Chiefs and Bowe can come to an agreement first so the tag can be used elsewhere (Carr perhaps). It depends a great deal on the remaining actions in free agency and the draft... time will tell. If anything it has to be used if Bowe doesn't sign, though I cannot see why he wouldn't unless he has a childhood dream of playing for someone else, it seems to me he enjoys it on the Chiefs, no?!

We have to use the tag by March 5th. That we haven't already put the tag on Bowe makes me think we're trying to do something just like that. I'm thinking that we'll hear either way by Friday at the latest. Not sure if it's the 5th at midnight, noon, 3 or when. Overall I think it's either the sides are getting close to a deal and we don't want to waste it or we haven't bothered talking to Bowe and are still trying to gauge which one will be best served in being tagged (Bowe or Carr).