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Miller
03-12-2012, 08:55 PM
Ok Manning says he does not want to come to KC, Ok I can deal with that. But what happens now? Clark Hunt says in a national interview that the Chiefs want Manning, so where does that leave Cassel? If I were him this would leave a bad taste in my mouth. I fear this is going to end badly.

OPLookn
03-12-2012, 08:58 PM
Ok Manning says he does not want to come to KC, Ok I can deal with that. But what happens now? Clark Hunt says in a national interview that the Chiefs want Manning, so where does that leave Cassel? If I were him this would leave a bad taste in my mouth. I fear this is going to end badly.

If I were competitive I would think to myself hmm they don't think I'm a starting QB. I'm going to go out there and prove them wrong.

It's a business and if Cassel doesn't show Pioli and company something this year I think he's gone. I would say Cassel and almost everyone around him knows that. So to me it'd purely be motivation...that and a truck load full of cash for my contract this year.

:lol:

jap1
03-12-2012, 08:59 PM
Ok Manning says he does not want to come to KC, Ok I can deal with that. But what happens now? Clark Hunt says in a national interview that the Chiefs want Manning, so where does that leave Cassel? If I were him this would leave a bad taste in my mouth. I fear this is going to end badly.

I hope/think that Cassel is mature enough to understand that he is not as good as Manning, and the team wants to win. The fact that he didnt come means we werent that interested or Manning wasnt that interested.

Either way I hope he is as professional as he has always seemed and continues to fight hard for the team.

Miller
03-12-2012, 09:04 PM
I hope you guys are right, I just hope that the first time the going gets tough he quits. I do not think he will, he seems like a really standup guy. But you know the " the guys in the front office quit on me" will be in his head every time he has to make that split decision about getting those extra yards for the first down, or "screw it" throw the ball away.

TopekaRoy
03-12-2012, 09:33 PM
I hope you guys are right, I just hope that the first time the going gets tough he quits. I do not think he will, he seems like a really standup guy. But you know the " the guys in the front office quit on me" will be in his head every time he has to make that split decision about getting those extra yards for the first down, or "screw it" throw the ball away.

I don't think it will be a problem at all. If the Chiefs were going hard after, I don't know, say, Sage Rosenfels or Rex Grossman to start over Cassel (not as a backup) then I could see how that would bother him. But he knows Peyton (when healthy) is a better QB than he is. If anything, like OP said, it will just motivate him to play harder and better.

toyotapower
03-12-2012, 10:09 PM
We go after a decent quarterback to compete with him. It was known long before the manning sweepstakes that there was going to be competition for cassell. In my opinion he's had compettition since the day we signed kyle orton. I think we will bring in orton/campbell/henne/leinart to compete, may the best man start. I'm also crossing my fingers for weeden. He has a special arm and is a bright guy. I don't care about his age, he has a better arm than cassell and he can be gotten as a steal in the second round

Chiefster
03-12-2012, 10:20 PM
We go after a decent quarterback to compete with him. It was known long before the manning sweepstakes that there was going to be competition for cassell. In my opinion he's had compettition since the day we signed kyle orton. I think we will bring in orton/campbell/henne/leinart to compete, may the best man start. I'm also crossing my fingers for weeden. He has a special arm and is a bright guy. I don't care about his age, he has a better arm than cassell and he can be gotten as a steal in the second round

I agree with all of this!

ctchiefsfan
03-12-2012, 10:23 PM
We go after a decent quarterback to compete with him. It was known long before the manning sweepstakes that there was going to be competition for cassell. In my opinion he's had compettition since the day we signed kyle orton. I think we will bring in orton/campbell/henne/leinart to compete, may the best man start.

+1 I'd like to see some competition for Cassel. But we shouldn't be drafting a QB this year. Too many holes to fill to be trying to trade up. Draft for the holes we need filled plus getting some FAs. Next year we can consider trading away a lot of picks to go after a QOTF. Then in 2016 we can have really great experienced team for him to take over. Build the team first, then find that QOTF.

N TX Dave
03-12-2012, 10:23 PM
No I don't think so, there are very few QBs out there that think they are as good as Manning including Cassell, how can he be upset with the team for trying to improve?

tornadospotter
03-12-2012, 11:39 PM
After the last few games of last season, Matt knows He needs to improve his game play. Now comes the time to prove he is a Chief! Season 3, Its make or break, for Matt. So why would he care who come in to compete for the job. It is out of his control, his focus had better be on being the best Chief QB that I can be.

Miller
03-12-2012, 11:50 PM
After the last few games of last season, Matt knows He needs to improve his game play. Now comes the time to prove he is a Chief! Season 3, Its make or break, for Matt. So why would he care who come in to compete for the job. It is out of his control, his focus had better be on being the best Chief QB that I can be.
:postpimp4ib: Well put

SBV_Eagle_Bull
03-13-2012, 02:38 AM
:chiefs: If Manning don't wanna be a Chief, thats fine with me. We got Cassel and the most under esitmated QB in the league "Ricky Stanzi". The QB position is fine, just keep building that O-line. and get Carr, hes a vital asset to our D..... and for the record. I hope peyton goes to the broncos, cause our D will rip him apart, Arrowhead magic baby, Monday night football. go CHIEFS

dbolan
03-13-2012, 08:58 AM
Manning never had a rocket arm. He was never noted as a great scrambler. Never noted as a runner. Never noted as a crappy decision maker. Never known as quitter.

What he was able to do is STUDY, LEARN, ABSORB and APPLY it to his game while also keeping himself in great physical condition.

Determination and Preparation. Period.

Do you think Cassell has shown this? I don't.

Seek
03-13-2012, 08:58 AM
Did Peyton actually say he does not want to play for Kansas City, or is that assumptions based the Denver Post report from two days ago, talking up how Denver is the winner over KC and Seattle.

As far as I know, the Chiefs are very tight lipped on everything they present to the media and very well may have already presented their case to Peyton or continue to do so with nothing being leaked to the Media and he is now doing his due diligence with all possible options to validate any decision he makes. They very well could be out of the contest, but fact of the matter he is not signed with anyone at this point anything you hear out there unless it is from the horses mouth is propaganda.

Chiefster
03-13-2012, 11:01 AM
Manning never had a rocket arm. He was never noted as a great scrambler. Never noted as a runner. Never noted as a crappy decision maker. Never known as quitter.

What he was able to do is STUDY, LEARN, ABSORB and APPLY it to his game while also keeping himself in great physical condition.

Determination and Preparation. Period.

Do you think Cassell has shown this? I don't.

I don't know, I think He has shown the ability to study and work hard. I don't believe he is a bad QB, I just don't know if he's grown into a starting QB. I think he may well still be viewed as that back up QB from New England.

chief31
03-13-2012, 10:44 PM
Did Peyton actually say he does not want to play for Kansas City, or is that assumptions based the Denver Post report from two days ago, talking up how Denver is the winner over KC and Seattle.

As far as I know, the Chiefs are very tight lipped on everything they present to the media and very well may have already presented their case to Peyton or continue to do so with nothing being leaked to the Media and he is now doing his due diligence with all possible options to validate any decision he makes. They very well could be out of the contest, but fact of the matter he is not signed with anyone at this point anything you hear out there unless it is from the horses mouth is propaganda.

That, coupled with the fact that Manning has not scheduled a visit to KC would be the driving force behind it all.

But yeah. I too am quite skeptical of the reports.

AkChief49
03-13-2012, 10:48 PM
and yet more reports/rumors from the Donky Post

Report: Peyton chase down to four teams | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/report-peyton-chase-down-to-four-teams/)