Peyton Hillis' Lands on Chiefstown

[alexim58]

So it's Official .. we got Hillis for 1 year contract for 1 Million.

So we got a mix of Speed and Power ..

That raw power missed since Okoye .. hope Hillis turns into a bargain and a great RB.

Peyton Hillis is a Chief - AFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/41256/peyton-hillis-is-a-chief)

[KristofLaw]

Okay man, interesting. Finally some news on the open front and at 1 mil. that's sounds fine with me. Make it work and have a great year Peyton, welcome to the Chiefs!!! :chiefs:

[CHIEFS_FN_ROCK]

My bad i posted one just after you

[texaschief]

obviously the least expensive of the available top tier FA RBs available... glad to see they're still pinching pennies.

[CHIEFS_FN_ROCK]

So does that mean we dont need jones? Hopefully Hillis stsys healthy

[ctchiefsfan]

No comments from me on the source, but what I read says the 1 year contract is for $3 mill. 2012 NFL free agency -- Kansas City Chiefs, Peyton Hillis agree to contract - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7687958/2012-nfl-free-agency-kansas-city-chiefs-peyton-hillis-agree-contract)

[AkChief49]

No comments from me on the source, but what I read says the 1 year contract is for $3 mill. 2012 NFL free agency -- Kansas City Chiefs, Peyton Hillis agree to contract - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7687958/2012-nfl-free-agency-kansas-city-chiefs-peyton-hillis-agree-contract)
was just about to do the same:D

[#58ChiefsFan]

This smells of a stop over for Hillis to prove he can still get it done and go somewhere for a long term contract. Hopefully he has one hell of a 2012 season while he's in our uniform though.

[alexim58]

Could be CTCHIEFSFAN .. I read that will be 1 Mill. but may be could be more .. anyways hope this works as worked for Browns on his Pro Bowl year ..

[N TX Dave]

Why do we go for one year deal everybody else is singing 3-5 year deals?

[AkChief49]

Chiefs announce the addition of Peyton Hillis (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/chiefs-announce-the-addition-of-peyton-hillis/)

Posted by Evan Silva on March 14, 2012, 7:13 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/peyton-hillis-pic.jpg?w=250 APThe Kansas City Chiefs announced Wednesday that they have signed running back Peyton Hillis (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4965/peyton-hillis), formerly of the Browns.
Hillis has a coaching staff connection in K.C. New Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll ran the offense in Cleveland during Hillis’ breakout 2010 season. Hillis’ 2011 campaign was marred by injuries and a distracting contract situation, but he’s only 26 years old and one of the top power runners in football when healthy.
With Jamaal Charles (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4617/jamaal-charles) returning from a torn ACL, the Chiefs will be able to field a Thunder and Lightning-style backfield duo. Expect the team to revert to a run-heavy offense in 2012.
Per ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Hillis’ deal is worth $3 million for one year.
Hillis was the No. 39 overall player on the PFT Hot 100 (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/the-free-agent-hot-100/).

[texaschief]

Why do we go for one year deal everybody else is singing 3-5 year deals?

because the people everyone else is signing are WORTH 3-5 years. it's obvious that all we're going to do is sign for depth and not worry about getting any better.

[#58ChiefsFan]

Why do we go for one year deal everybody else is singing 3-5 year deals?

I'd love to know too. I admit I was excited about this until I read it was one season.

[MissingTBone]

Not really the signing I was hoping for. Hope he has a good year, but I hate a 1 year contract! Hopefully we get a few more now.

[ctchiefsfan]

Could be CTCHIEFSFAN .. I read that will be 1 Mill. but may be could be more .. anyways hope this works as worked for Browns on his Pro Bowl year ..

Wasn't my intention to contradict. Just passing along what I had read.

[ctchiefsfan]

The short term contract does disappoint me, but I am glad to see us doing SOMETHING in FA.

[jap1]

From Walterfootball.com:



http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/chiefsb_logo.gif Chiefs sign RB Peyton Hillis (1 year, $3 million): A- Grade
You know, it's a shame for Todd Haley that he didn't have Special Agent Peyton Hillis on the roster last year. He could have used Agent Hillis to find all of the bugs in his office that the owners planted.

This is a really good signing regardless of the poor Haley timing. Agent Hillis could always retire and join the CIA, but the Chiefs aren't risking anything. If Agent Hillis focuses on football and stays healthy, Kansas City will have a great one-two punch at running back - something that is essential considering that Jamaal Charles is coming off a torn ACL.

[toyotapower]

Supposedly Tolbert is still visiting kc.... maybe we sign him long term? We would be extremely fresh for the playoffs

[jap1]

From Walterfootball.com:

Here is a link to Walt's comments on all of the FA signings. Some are funny, some are informative:

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2012recap.php

[jap1]

Hey. We are the headline article on ESPN's NFL page for this signing. We get some attention finally at least!

[AkChief49]

Hey. We are the headline article on ESPN's NFL page for this signing. We get some attention finally at least!
Hey, they stole my title

The other Peyton - Kansas City Chiefs Forums (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20161)

[texaschief]

LMAO... I hope they DO sign Tolbert as well... why wouldn't they? It's not like we have a pair of Pro Bowlers in the backfield already... oh wait.

Plus, c'mon... this team is completely solid EVERYWHERE else and there's really no other position at which the Chiefs should spend money anyway.

[AkChief49]

LMAO... I hope they DO sign Tolbert as well... why wouldn't they? It's not like we have a pair of Pro Bowlers in the backfield already... oh wait.

Plus, c'mon... this team is completely solid EVERYWHERE else and there's really no other position at which the Chiefs should spend money anyway.
I get it, your kidding, your kidding!:D We'll find out tomorrow (maybe-hopefully) about Winston. I have not seen anywhere we are talking to Grubbs, yet.

[Ryfo18]

I like this signing. He's a very good complement to Charles. I think they'll look to bring in another back in the middle rounds to take over should Hillis leave after the 1 year is up.

[chief31]

I like this signing. He's a very good complement to Charles. I think they'll look to bring in another back in the middle rounds to take over should Hillis leave after the 1 year is up.

Agreed.

[whackojacko58]

hey look we signed a peyton i told all of you lol ;)

[TopekaRoy]

Why do we go for one year deal everybody else is singing 3-5 year deals?


because the people everyone else is signing are WORTH 3-5 years.
^^This!^^

it's obvious that all we're going to do is sign for depth and not worry about getting any better.
But not ^^This!^^

Ask yourself the same question from the other side: Why would Hillis sign with us for one year when other RBs are getting 3 to 5 year deals? The answer is pretty obvious. Nobody was willing to offer him a better deal.

When a player signs a one year deal like this, especially this early in FA, it's usually because he has no other options. In Hillis' case, teams may be reluctant to sign him long term because he struggled with hamstring injuries, last season.

What is likely is that Pioli told Hillis, "We believe in you and think you have a lot of potential. We want you to play for us but we have concerns about your ability to stay healthy. We will give you a one year deal and if you show us that you can produce and stay healthy we will give you a long term extension before your contract expires. Hillis, naturally, believes in himself and wants to prove he deserves more, so he will be highly motivated to show the Chiefs (and the NFL in general) that he can play. And the Chiefs are protected if he can't, so this is a win-win situation.

These types of contracts are becoming fairly common, especially with running backs, where they don't play as long as players at other positions, and there is a much greater likelihood of getting injured (because they get tackled a lot, lol). Last year the Bears did the same thing with Roy Williams when nobody else wanted him. They signed him to a 1 yr/$2.46 million deal. He didn't produce and now he's a free agent again.

[texaschief]

^^This!^^

But not ^^This!^^

Ask yourself the same question from the other side: Why would Hillis sign with us for one year when other RBs are getting 3 to 5 year deals? The answer is pretty obvious. Nobody was willing to offer him a better deal.

When a player signs a one year deal like this, especially this early in FA, it's usually because he has no other options. In Hillis' case, teams may be reluctant to sign him long term because he struggled with hamstring injuries, last season.

What is likely is that Pioli told Hillis, "We believe in you and think you have a lot of potential. We want you to play for us but we have concerns about your ability to stay healthy. We will give you a one year deal and if you show us that you can produce and stay healthy we will give you a long term extension before your contract expires. Hillis, naturally, believes in himself and wants to prove he deserves more, so he will be highly motivated to show the Chiefs (and the NFL in general) that he can play. And the Chiefs are protected if he can't, so this is a win-win situation.

These types of contracts are becoming fairly common, especially with running backs, where they don't play as long as players at other positions, and there is a much greater likelihood of getting injured (because they get tackled a lot, lol). Last year the Bears did the same thing with Roy Williams when nobody else wanted him. They signed him to a 1 yr/$2.46 million deal. He didn't produce and now he's a free agent again.

If that's what the Chiefs wanted to do, they would've put a team option in for 2013... that way, if he DOES perform the way the Chiefs hope, they get to keep him without escaping in free agency again. The only reason he came here was because of the new OC. He wasn't gonna go anywhere else anyway.

My comment about Pioli signing just for depth still applies here. A Hillis signing does nothing to improve our starting 22.

[AussieChiefsFan]

If that's what the Chiefs wanted to do, they would've put a team option in for 2013... that way, if he DOES perform the way the Chiefs hope, they get to keep him without escaping in free agency again. The only reason he came here was because of the new OC. He wasn't gonna go anywhere else anyway.

My comment about Pioli signing just for depth still applies here. A Hillis signing does nothing to improve our starting 22.

It takes the load off of JC and helps in short yardage situations.

[texaschief]

It takes the load off of JC and helps in short yardage situations.

Right... it's about depth. He's not our starting RB... unless I'm missing something... and that's assuming homeboy stays healthy.


... sorry... i'm just pissed about being a Chiefs fan. I've been trying to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt but he's making it real #ucking hard after ignoring the NT position year in and year out since he's gotten here and implemented his 3-4. This whole defense is centered around that one effin position and he's done NOTHING to solidify the position. It honestly doesn't matter what he does with the rest of the roster if that ONE position isn't taken care of.

A team that runs a 3-4 without a stud NT isn't going to contend. It's not rocket science... and this POS GM can't figure that out... and THEN to be sitting on the 3rd or 4th largest cap space in the league and allow a STUD, prime-entering, NT to sign a 2-year, $12MM contract with a team who will no longer be using a NT is un-#ucking-believable!!! You can't tell me that if you offer Soliai 4/35 that he's not going to take it!!

This team NEEDS an elite NT and Pioli cares more about bringing in some dipsh!t TE from Seattle who hasn't played a game since 2010 and who he couldn't even get a meeting with instead of figuring out how to get Soliai signed. It's pathetic.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Right... it's about depth. He's not our starting RB... unless I'm missing something... and that's assuming homeboy stays healthy.


... sorry... i'm just pissed about being a Chiefs fan. I've been trying to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt but he's making it real #ucking hard after ignoring the NT position year in and year out since he's gotten here and implemented his 3-4. This whole defense is centered around that one effin position and he's done NOTHING to solidify the position. It honestly doesn't matter what he does with the rest of the roster if that ONE position isn't taken care of.

A team that runs a 3-4 without a stud NT isn't going to contend. It's not rocket science... and this POS GM can't figure that out... and THEN to be sitting on the 3rd or 4th largest cap space in the league and allow a STUD, prime-entering, NT to sign a 2-year, $12MM contract with a team who will no longer be using a NT is un-#ucking-believable!!! You can't tell me that if you offer Soliai 4/35 that he's not going to take it!!

This team NEEDS an elite NT and Pioli cares more about bringing in some dipsh!t TE from Seattle who hasn't played a game since 2010 and who he couldn't even get a meeting with instead of figuring out how to get Soliai signed. It's pathetic.
I feel you about the NT, Pioli could have done more to get Solai. Is Gregg retiring? If he isn't he's probably OK for another year. And the rest of the D is playing better each year.

Also I feel they could have done more to get Manning. Obviously he's still a FA but it looks very doubtful we'll get him. I mean, maybe Manning really DIDN'T want to visit KC and even give KC a chance at all but the way it looks, I think he could've done more. The fact of having manning alone, would attract other good Free Agents.

[texaschief]

Gregg is a UFA and expected to retire.

[TopekaRoy]

If that's what the Chiefs wanted to do, they would've put a team option in for 2013... that way, if he DOES perform the way the Chiefs hope, they get to keep him without escaping in free agency again.

That makes perfect sense for the Chiefs, but why would Hillis (or his agent, more likely) agree to that? Job security? Not really. The Chiefs would be under no obligation to exercise that option. And if Hillis performs really well, as he is hoping to, then he is locked into a second year at low pay.

The Chiefs can always extend his contract if they feel he is worth it. They don't need the option, but if Hillis is looking for a payday he can explore free agency again in a year. That is why more and more FAs are opting for shorter contracts. By the time you get to the 4th or 5th year you can be grossly underpaid relative to other players at your position, but you can't do anything about it.

The contracts don't really protect the player because the team can cut you and not honor the remainder of the contract (other than "guaranteed" money).


My comment about Pioli signing just for depth still applies here. A Hillis signing does nothing to improve our starting 22.
Fair enough. It was the "not worr about getting any better" part that I was mainly disagreeing with. In my opinion, anyway, adding depth has [I]everything to do with getting better. Look how much a lack of depth hurt us last year. And it can have the indirect effect of making Charles better by reducing his number of carries and getting him more rest in a game.

[OPLookn]

Right... it's about depth. He's not our starting RB... unless I'm missing something... and that's assuming homeboy stays healthy.


... sorry... i'm just pissed about being a Chiefs fan. I've been trying to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt but he's making it real #ucking hard after ignoring the NT position year in and year out since he's gotten here and implemented his 3-4. This whole defense is centered around that one effin position and he's done NOTHING to solidify the position. It honestly doesn't matter what he does with the rest of the roster if that ONE position isn't taken care of.

A team that runs a 3-4 without a stud NT isn't going to contend. It's not rocket science... and this POS GM can't figure that out... and THEN to be sitting on the 3rd or 4th largest cap space in the league and allow a STUD, prime-entering, NT to sign a 2-year, $12MM contract with a team who will no longer be using a NT is un-#ucking-believable!!! You can't tell me that if you offer Soliai 4/35 that he's not going to take it!!

This team NEEDS an elite NT and Pioli cares more about bringing in some dipsh!t TE from Seattle who hasn't played a game since 2010 and who he couldn't even get a meeting with instead of figuring out how to get Soliai signed. It's pathetic.

It's a known fact that Soliai turned down Denver who was offering him more money and that's before we could even get him on the phone or schedule a visit. It's not all about money and Soliai proved that by taking a 2 year, 12 million dollar contract. The guy wanted to stay in Miami. But let's blame Pioli....right.

I'm going to go ahead and say that you really hadn't thought about that because you were posting at 4 am.

[texaschief]

... and you KNOW what Denver offered?

[OPLookn]

... and you KNOW what Denver offered?

No I don't know what Denver offered but everyone's been saying it was more. Denver needs a NT bad too so they're not going to low ball him. In the words of Chris Carter....C'mon man!

[Paperbag Face]

At first I was annoyed by this.

After some thought, this is a good signing.

Was a monster under Daboll when he was in Cleveland. Hopefully he can get him running like that again.

He'll have a fire under him this season to prove he still has it. After that, he'll look for a starting job and bigger money.

[chiefnut]

this is a great deal for both, Hillis gets a chance to prove he is the same back from 2010, if he is then he will get big $ as an FA. if he does not pan out the CHIEFS have only a small?? investment for one year, but if he does have a big year we get first crack at extending his stay in KC.

he could be the perfect compliment to JC. pound hillis between the tackles, send JC off tackle, then switch it up late in the game. maybe add in tolbert could be an awsome backfield, not to mention you could have four able receivers out of that backfield. very tough to defend and should open up the field for cassel and the super "B's". should be fun to watch if they can put it all together.

[#58ChiefsFan]

this is a great deal for both, Hillis gets a chance to prove he is the same back from 2010, if he is then he will get big $ as an FA. if he does not pan out the CHIEFS have only a small?? investment for one year, but if he does have a big year we get first crack at extending his stay in KC.

he could be the perfect compliment to JC. pound hillis between the tackles, send JC off tackle, then switch it up late in the game. maybe add in tolbert could be an awsome backfield, not to mention you could have four able receivers out of that backfield. very tough to defend and should open up the field for cassel and the super "B's". should be fun to watch if they can put it all together.


Almost sounds like we might be able to convert a third down! :chiefs:

[OPLookn]

Almost sounds like we might be able to convert a third down! :chiefs:

Not necessarily, we'll have run two times by then and we'll be relying on a pass. Oh wait, Haley/Muir aren't here. Never mind, move along, nothing to see here people.

:lol:

[TopekaRoy]

Almost sounds like we might be able to convert a third down! :chiefs:

I saw the Chiefs do that once. It was really cool! :lol:

[TopekaRoy]

This makes me pretty excited about the Hillis signing:

RB Peyton Hillis eager for new start with Chiefs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txchiefshillis)


“I’ve never been healthier and never been more excited about playing football,” Hillis said in a conference call. ...

It was Daboll’s confidence in him that brought out his best, Hillis said.

“I think it was just the point he believed in me and believed what I could do. And what he does, works,” he said. “I think he’s proved out wherever he’s been. I’m very excited about this and very excited about being a Chief.” ...

I saw this as an opportunity to be reunited with coach Daboll and with (general manager) Scott Pioli and coach Crennel because they’re great people.”

I read it on the internet so it must be true. :lol:

[ctchiefsfan]

LOL!!!! Well...he sure talks the talk.

I'm not fond of the 1 year deal, but if he really said that stuff and MEANT it, then I think we got the best end of this deal. He gets a year to prove he's worth some real money and if he does then perhaps next year he won't develop an $85,000,000.00 hat size.

[TopekaRoy]

LOL!!!! Well...he sure talks the talk.

I'm not fond of the 1 year deal, but if he really said that stuff and MEANT it, then I think we got the best end of this deal. He gets a year to prove he's worth some real money and if he does then perhaps next year he won't develop an $85,000,000.00 hat size.

Let's hope! :bananen_smilies046:

[jap1]

Apparently, the contract isn't as much as was initially reported.

It is 2.6 million. And if he doesn't play in one game, it costs him 25,000.

Link:
Chiefs get Peyton Hillis on the cheap | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/15/chiefs-get-peyton-hillis-on-the-cheap/)

[AussieChiefsFan]

Apparently, the contract isn't as much as was initially reported.

It is 2.6 million. And if he doesn't play in one game, it costs him 25,000.

Link:
Chiefs get Peyton Hillis on the cheap | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/15/chiefs-get-peyton-hillis-on-the-cheap/)

Now THAT would be interesting to see :lol: