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m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 05:07 PM
I honestly don't know how anybody can blame Huard or the play-calling for the horrible performance yesterday. We opened the game passing and stuck with it pretty much all the way because we had no run game. Passing the ball is the ONLY thing we did even remotely well, yesterday. Huard and mainly Solari have deservedly taken some heat and have both been the source of some well-placed doubts. Again though, they provided the only bright spot for us yesterday at all!

The problem was not only the absolutely disgusting lack of a run game but special teams as well. Far more impactful than the missed field-goal on the first drive, was Eddie Drummond's fear of catching a punt and running with it! We started every drive with horrible field position because he let every punt go and bounce down inside the 10-yard line. Drummond's timidness on punt-returns was unacceptable from a guy we brought in to do this job, specifically.

Another huge contributing factor in our loss yesterday, was Ty Law's inability to cover on third downs. It looked like Law was playing in Greg Robinson's "read and react" style defense when we used to see the Chiefs playing off the recievers so far on third-and-long that a conversion seemed almost inevitable every time. That was the worst coverage I have seen out of any Chiefs' defender this year.

Of course, a lot of the blame for yesterday rides squarely on the shoulders of Larry Johnson and the offensive line. 10 yards rushing at home? I want my money back!

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 05:12 PM
I honestly don't know how anybody can blame Huard or the play-calling for the horrible performance yesterday. We opened the game passing and stuck with it pretty much all the way because we had no run game. Passing the ball is the ONLY thing we did even remotely well, yesterday. Huard and mainly Solari have deservedly taken some heat and have both been the source of some well-placed doubts. Again though, they provided the only bright spot for us yesterday at all!

The problem was not only the absolutely disgusting lack of a run game but special teams as well. Far more impactful than the missed field-goal on the first drive, was Eddie Drummond's fear of catching a punt and running with it! We started every drive with horrible field position because he let every punt go and bounce down inside the 10-yard line. Drummond's timidness on punt-returns was unacceptable from a guy we brought in to do this job, specifically.

Another huge contributing factor in our loss yesterday, was Ty Law's inability to cover on third downs. It looked like Law was playing in Greg Robinson's "read and react" style defense when we used to see the Chiefs playing off the recievers so far on third-and-long that a conversion seemed almost inevitable every time. That was the worst coverage I have seen out of any Chiefs' defender this year.

Of course, a lot of the blame for yesterday rides squarely on the shoulders of Larry Johnson and the offensive line. 10 yards rushing at home? I want my money back!


Put LT behind that line and the outcome would be the same!

Ty Law? I have been complaining about this washed up peice of **** for months! He is done! Terrible! I was hoping someone would beat him out in camp.

hermhater
10-08-2007, 05:12 PM
I don't think anyone on here has been bashing Huard (I will say that he is scared on the field, as he should be) or his ability to manage a game.

Now I will bash Huard. He was overthrowing receivers badly yesterday.

He made some good plays, and some bad plays.

I just think it is time for a change, and the only thing we can really do it put in someone who touches the ball every play of the offensive game, and it may spark something.

The season is not lost folks. We are tied for second in the division, only a half game behind the hated Raiders.

Unless we do something different this season could get really, really ugly.

I am ready for the future of the team, if that is what Broyle really is.

Let's watch what he can do for about six games, and evaluate him.

If he is not the future, then by all means get someone else in there.

m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 05:15 PM
I don't think anyone on here has been bashing Huard (I will say that he is scared on the field, as he should be) or his ability to manage a game.

Now I will bash Huard. He was overthrowing receivers badly yesterday.

He made some good plays, and some bad plays.

I just think it is time for a change, and the only thing we can really do it put in someone who touches the ball every play of the offensive game, and it may spark something.

The season is not lost folks. We are tied for second in the division, only a half game behind the hated Raiders.

Unless we do something different this season could get really, really ugly.

I am ready for the future of the team, if that is what Broyle really is.

Let's watch what he can do for about six games, and evaluate him.

If he is not the future, then by all means get someone else in there.

With absolutely NO running threat, "Broyle" will be the future of this team for about three snaps, until he is laying on the field in four different pieces. Huard is still playing consistent and we know what to expect from him so we can gameplan around it. There are so many problems on this team right now, we have to work with what we know we have. To throw in an unknown commodity without fixing what is currently wrong is asking for more and far-greater disaster, IMO.

hermhater
10-08-2007, 05:17 PM
With absolutely NO running threat, "Broyle" will be the future of this team for about three snaps, until he is laying on the field in four different pieces. Huard is still playing consistent and we know what to expect from him so we can gameplan around it. There are so many problems on this team right now, we have to work with what we know we have. To throw in an unknown commodity without fixing what is currently wrong is asking for more and far-greater disaster, IMO.

The play calling is atrocious and Broyle will suffer just as Huard did.

But just maybe he can avoid the rush and get outside.

I'm not really arguing with you, just stating my opinion.

I know Broyle is young and untested, but you have to admit you like his arm, don't you?

luv
10-08-2007, 05:20 PM
With absolutely NO running threat, "Broyle" will be the future of this team for about three snaps, until he is laying on the field in four different pieces. Huard is still playing consistent and we know what to expect from him so we can gameplan around it. There are so many problems on this team right now, we have to work with what we know we have. To throw in an unknown commodity without fixing what is currently wrong is asking for more and far-greater disaster, IMO.
Uh...isn't Huard injured?

white313@pld.com
10-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Isn't it amazing how we resemble the New York Jets of three years ago.I mean c'mon who really thinks this guy is a great coach. The problem with the running game is three-part in my opinion.

1. Our offensive line stinks. They should pay The 2 Wills to come back and put on a toughness seminar.

2. Larry Johnson is running like a girl!!!!!!

3. Herm and Solari are both idiots when it comes to offensive play calling, and believe me the opponents have figured this out.

I love the Chiefs and it breaks my heart to see this. But the buck stops with herm and it's time for him to fix this. There is plenty of talent on this team to win, just no leadership.

m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 05:24 PM
The play calling is atrocious and Broyle will suffer just as Huard did.

But just maybe he can avoid the rush and get outside.

I'm not really arguing with you, just stating my opinion.

I know Broyle is young and untested, but you have to admit you like his arm, don't you?

I do like his arm but his durability is suspect. He was hurt in high-school, he was hurt in college, and to put him in now is asking for more of the same. What the hell do you want out of the play-calling??? I don't get this. We run and it's bad play-calling. We pass and it's bad play-calling. Is there another way to move the football downfield that I don't know about? We still do a lot of motion and we did a lot of play-fakes yesterday. We are TRYING to confuse defenses but everything is getting sniffed out because we are one-dimensional. Everybody keyed on the run and now know how to stop the Chiefs from running. This gave us a small window of opportunity to get the pass going. With the complete lack of a running game and the pass being our only threat, it's only a matter of time before that stops working too-- much like what we saw yesterday.

hermhater
10-08-2007, 05:34 PM
I do like his arm but his durability is suspect. He was hurt in high-school, he was hurt in college, and to put him in now is asking for more of the same. What the hell do you want out of the play-calling??? I don't get this. We run and it's bad play-calling. We pass and it's bad play-calling. Is there another way to move the football downfield that I don't know about? We still do a lot of motion and we did a lot of play-fakes yesterday. We are TRYING to confuse defenses but everything is getting sniffed out because we are one-dimensional. Everybody keyed on the run and now know how to stop the Chiefs from running. This gave us a small window of opportunity to get the pass going. With the complete lack of a running game and the pass being our only threat, it's only a matter of time before that stops working too-- much like what we saw yesterday.

I disagree. If we call more play action passes (I know we started out that way yesterday) it will open up the run because we will have an accurate QB behind the line. NO team respects the Chiefs passing game right now. Huard was being saved by Dbowe and TG. His passes have been terrible for the past two weeks.

Herm gave up yesterday with 6 min to go he punted on 4th and 2 down by 3 scores. I realize we were backed up near our endzone, but if we are relying on our defense that much, then we need trust them to keep it within 3 scores and just let them have a field goal.

The Jags offense was eating up way too much of the clock with their offensive drives. Herm even said post game that he was calling the time outs so that we could see Broyle in the game and get him some time.

He never even thought of trying to comeback and win the game.

I know this isn't really what we were talking about, but maybe if we have a premiere QB in the game it will open up the entire offense.

I don't think that our offense is as bad as it looks.

We just need to come together and play as a team.

m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 05:47 PM
I disagree. If we call more play action passes (I know we started out that way yesterday) it will open up the run because we will have an accurate QB behind the line. NO team respects the Chiefs passing game right now. Huard was being saved by Dbowe and TG. His passes have been terrible for the past two weeks.

Herm gave up yesterday with 6 min to go he punted on 4th and 2 down by 3 scores. I realize we were backed up near our endzone, but if we are relying on our defense that much, then we need trust them to keep it within 3 scores and just let them have a field goal.

The Jags offense was eating up way too much of the clock with their offensive drives. Herm even said post game that he was calling the time outs so that we could see Broyle in the game and get him some time.

He never even thought of trying to comeback and win the game.

I know this isn't really what we were talking about, but maybe if we have a premiere QB in the game it will open up the entire offense.

I don't think that our offense is as bad as it looks.

We just need to come together and play as a team.

The play-action pass is set up by the run. Not the other way around. If you can't get a run game going, the play-fakes will not sell and you will have blitzing defenders mauling your QB because the play-fake takes extra time in the back-field.

Croyle did get a TD yesterday in garbage time but he was throwing passes in the dirt and losing the ball out of his grip. Damon was over 15% better on completion percentage than Croyle yesterday with over three times the amount of attempts. Damon's average was almost two yards higher and his rating was twice as good as Croyle's-- Even with no TD's and a pick. Go ahead and keep telling me that Croyle needs to start and I'll keep calling whoever says it crazy.

The only way Croyle should get on the field at this point is if Huard is hurt and that's it.

hermhater
10-08-2007, 05:52 PM
The play-action pass is set up by the run. Not the other way around. If you can't get a run game going, the play-fakes will not sell and you will have blitzing defenders mauling your QB because the play-fake takes extra time in the back-field.

Croyle did get a TD yesterday in garbage time but he was throwing passes in the dirt and losing the ball out of his grip. Damon was over 15% better on completion percentage than Croyle yesterday with over three times the amount of attempts. Damon's average was almost two yards higher and his rating was twice as good as Croyle's-- Even with no TD's and a pick. Go ahead and keep telling me that Croyle needs to start and I'll keep calling whoever says it crazy.

The only way Croyle should get on the field at this point is if Huard is hurt and that's it.

Well 3 incompletes out of his final four passes hurt his percentage a lot, since it was in the red zone and he eventually did make the TD throw (realize it was crap time) give him some props. It was raining the entire time Broyle was in the game, Huard had the entire first half while it was dry, and the offense was on fire (thank god for that drive).

This is a new guy, when do you say use him? When Huard is hurt? Well Huard has been playing hurt all year long and it has shown.

Huard is decent, but I want a QB that is a star.

Hopefully it will be Broyle!

m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 06:12 PM
Well 3 incompletes out of his final four passes hurt his percentage a lot, since it was in the red zone and he eventually did make the TD throw (realize it was crap time) give him some props. It was raining the entire time Broyle was in the game, Huard had the entire first half while it was dry, and the offense was on fire (thank god for that drive).

This is a new guy, when do you say use him? When Huard is hurt? Well Huard has been playing hurt all year long and it has shown.

Huard is decent, but I want a QB that is a star.

Hopefully it will be Broyle!

So, at 2-3 while still tied for first in our division, we pull the known-commodity that is Huard for a young, injury- and mistake-prone Croyle when we have no running threat to take any pressure off of either QB-- further increasing the risk of injury and potential mistakes to whoever is under center. Why get the "future star" hurt? Why unnecessarily hurt his confidence with bad performances? Why not ride Huard out for as long as possible since he does not have much longer to play, being the veteran "transition QB"? Why not give the Chiefs a chance to fix a few things to make it easier for Croyle when he does come in?

As far as being a "future star" goes, Croyle is a third round pick from Alabama who has suffered serious injury at every level of football he has played. Are defenses "nicer" or "softer" in the NFL than college? No.

IMO, unless Huard is injured Croyle should not be the starter in this situation, at this time.

hermhater
10-08-2007, 06:14 PM
So, at 2-3 while still tied for first in our division, we pull the known-commodity that is Huard for a young, injury- and mistake-prone Croyle when we have no running threat to take any pressure off of either QB-- further increasing the risk of injury and potential mistakes to whoever is under center. Why get the "future star" hurt? Why unnecessarily hurt his confidence with bad performances? Why not ride Huard out for as long as possible since he does not have much longer to play, being the veteran "transition QB"? Why not give the Chiefs a chance to fix a few things to make it easier for Croyle when he does come in?

As far as being a "future star" goes, Croyle is a third round pick from Alabama who has suffered serious injury at every level of football he has played. Are defenses "nicer" or "softer" in the NFL than college? No.

IMO, unless Huard is injured Croyle should not be the starter in this situation, at this time.

Ok, I'll bite.

If Broyle is not our future, then get someone else.

I am not in love with the kid.

We could have had any number of free agent starters this off season.

I'm just going with what we've got.

I have said repeatedly that I don't know if Broyle is the future, but I'm tired of waiting to see who is.

timsatt1
10-08-2007, 06:19 PM
I do like his arm but his durability is suspect. He was hurt in high-school, he was hurt in college, and to put him in now is asking for more of the same. What the hell do you want out of the play-calling??? I don't get this. We run and it's bad play-calling. We pass and it's bad play-calling. Is there another way to move the football downfield that I don't know about? We still do a lot of motion and we did a lot of play-fakes yesterday. We are TRYING to confuse defenses but everything is getting sniffed out because we are one-dimensional. Everybody keyed on the run and now know how to stop the Chiefs from running. This gave us a small window of opportunity to get the pass going. With the complete lack of a running game and the pass being our only threat, it's only a matter of time before that stops working too-- much like what we saw yesterday.

audibles? maybe they have a video camera on our sideline and are reading our plays??? or then again, why would they need a video camera? they can just ask anyone in the stands what play we are going to run.

if you havent noticed from last year's playoff game till now, we ran on 1st and 2nd, passed on 3rd, then punted.

Yes, we are doing more passing now. But there were key times in the game yesturday, where we had 2 passes, 1 got us first down, second got us 2nd and 4...then we ran on 2nd and 3rd down for no gain and punted. I mean, right when our throwing game was on....we ran two times in a row and lost possession.

timsatt1
10-08-2007, 06:21 PM
I disagree. If we call more play action passes (I know we started out that way yesterday) it will open up the run because we will have an accurate QB behind the line. NO team respects the Chiefs passing game right now. Huard was being saved by Dbowe and TG. His passes have been terrible for the past two weeks.

Herm gave up yesterday with 6 min to go he punted on 4th and 2 down by 3 scores. I realize we were backed up near our endzone, but if we are relying on our defense that much, then we need trust them to keep it within 3 scores and just let them have a field goal.

The Jags offense was eating up way too much of the clock with their offensive drives. Herm even said post game that he was calling the time outs so that we could see Broyle in the game and get him some time.

He never even thought of trying to comeback and win the game.

I know this isn't really what we were talking about, but maybe if we have a premiere QB in the game it will open up the entire offense.

I don't think that our offense is as bad as it looks.

We just need to come together and play as a team.

the game was already over. of course you punt it.

it was OVER. all the other coaches would have done the same given the score and time left and the situation at hand.

timsatt1
10-08-2007, 06:22 PM
The play-action pass is set up by the run. Not the other way around. If you can't get a run game going, the play-fakes will not sell and you will have blitzing defenders mauling your QB because the play-fake takes extra time in the back-field.

Croyle did get a TD yesterday in garbage time but he was throwing passes in the dirt and losing the ball out of his grip. Damon was over 15% better on completion percentage than Croyle yesterday with over three times the amount of attempts. Damon's average was almost two yards higher and his rating was twice as good as Croyle's-- Even with no TD's and a pick. Go ahead and keep telling me that Croyle needs to start and I'll keep calling whoever says it crazy.

The only way Croyle should get on the field at this point is if Huard is hurt and that's it.

lol yeah he was losing the ball in his grip....did you notice it started pouring rain?

normally in the rain...the teams go to the run...but yeah....we are the chiefs, we dont have a running game. so we were forced to pass, which is not wise in the rain.

hermhater
10-08-2007, 06:23 PM
the game was already over. of course you punt it.

it was OVER. all the other coaches would have done the same given the score and time left and the situation at hand.


If you don't believe in your team the game was over.

I have never seen a coach give up with 6 minutes left in a game.

Please refresh my memory.

Apparently HERM does not believe in HIS team.

That is unacceptable.

m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 06:26 PM
audibles? maybe they have a video camera on our sideline and are reading our plays??? or then again, why would they need a video camera? they can just ask anyone in the stands what play we are going to run.

if you havent noticed from last year's playoff game till now, we ran on 1st and 2nd, passed on 3rd, then punted.

Yes, we are doing more passing now. But there were key times in the game yesturday, where we had 2 passes, 1 got us first down, second got us 2nd and 4...then we ran on 2nd and 3rd down for no gain and punted. I mean, right when our throwing game was on....we ran two times in a row and lost possession.

We're chasing out tails on this play-calling thing. How can we be accused of running too much when we only ran the ball 10 times yesterday and put it in the air 41 times?? In theory, success with the pass will open up the run. I personally don't have a problem with them trying to work in the running game after they feel like they have stretched the defense some. I definately don't want to see us become so one-dimensional we pass on every play!

hermhater
10-08-2007, 06:34 PM
We're chasing out tails on this play-calling thing. How can we be accused of running too much when we only ran the ball 10 times yesterday and put it in the air 41 times?? In theory, success with the pass will open up the run. I personally don't have a problem with them trying to work in the running game after they feel like they have stretched the defense some. I definately don't want to see us become so one-dimensional we pass on every play!

For me the play calling is not all about we don't try and pass enough.

Yesterday we did, and it worked for awhile. Still didn't get the running game going.

When I referred to using play action pass to open up the game, I meant because it was working, and we could keep doing it until it didn't and then the deep routes would open up.

The play calling that I have a problem with is that they don't call the right plays at the right time.

I am not a NFL coach, but the ones that are need to be better at play calling.

m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 06:43 PM
I didn't see the same, atrocious play-calling yesterday that I saw in the first two weeks. Yesterday's disaster falls squarely on certain players and their lack of execution/production, IMO.

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 07:01 PM
I didn't see the same, atrocious play-calling yesterday that I saw in the first two weeks. Yesterday's disaster falls squarely on certain players and their lack of execution/production, IMO.
You may disagree but.......

Certain players huh?
Do you mean the guys up front that directly relate to running the ball?
Or is it the guys up front that directly relate to protecting the QB so he has time to get the ball down field accuratly?
Or maybe the guys up front that are suppose to keep the rushers from getting in the back field and almost blocking a field goal?

Or....sarcasm is running rampade here!!!:lol:

chief31
10-08-2007, 07:02 PM
I didn't see the same, atrocious play-calling yesterday that I saw in the first two weeks. Yesterday's disaster falls squarely on certain players and their lack of execution/production, IMO.

It is quite difficult to attack, or defend the paly-calling, from yesterdays game, without the game tapes that the teams get. Even then, you would need to know what Solari was looking at. But I doubt that Solari is capable, at this point, of visually breaking-down a defenses tendancies and schemes. Albeit, Jacksonville is a pretty tough defense to manipulate. I just don't think that an O-line coach has a great understanding of passing routes and such.

For example, if you have ever seen Ron Jaworski break-down offensive schemes and why they are effective against particular defenses, then you can see what I am talking about. I don't think Solari is doing too well, at that.

I could easily be wrong on that. As I said, it is difficult to determine what is going through Solaris mind, in his offensive design.

chief31
10-08-2007, 07:04 PM
Or....sarcasm is running rampade here!!!:lol:


Rampant. Just tryin to help. :D

m0ef0e
10-08-2007, 07:08 PM
You may disagree but.......

Certain players huh?
Do you mean the guys up front that directly relate to running the ball?
Or is it the guys up front that directly relate to protecting the QB so he has time to get the ball down field accuratly?
Or maybe the guys up front that are suppose to keep the rushers from getting in the back field and almost blocking a field goal?

Or....sarcasm is running rampade here!!!:lol:

Yeah, those guys and a few others. Like Drummond and LJ (yes, I am putting some blame on LJ. He looks like he has gained weight and slowed down from what he was last year and before. I put a lot of blame on his hold-out for this.)

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 07:09 PM
Rampant. Just tryin to help. :D
I'll be reading all of your posts veeeeery carefully my son!!!

Was that Just tryin to help?:yahoo:

chief31
10-08-2007, 07:12 PM
I'll be reading all of your posts veeeeery carefully my son!!!

Was that Just tryin to help?:yahoo:

Awwww...touche. But, then there is always this....

(Nothing up my sleeve.)

Ta-Da!!!!^^^

Guru
10-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Well 3 incompletes out of his final four passes hurt his percentage a lot, since it was in the red zone and he eventually did make the TD throw (realize it was crap time) give him some props. It was raining the entire time Broyle was in the game, Huard had the entire first half while it was dry, and the offense was on fire (thank god for that drive).

This is a new guy, when do you say use him? When Huard is hurt? Well Huard has been playing hurt all year long and it has shown.

Huard is decent, but I want a QB that is a star.

Hopefully it will be Broyle!

Maybe I missed the reason, but why Broyle? Last I checked, his name was Croyle.

McLovin
10-08-2007, 07:17 PM
Maybe I missed the reason, but why Broyle? Last I checked, his name was Croyle.
In an earlier post Herm came up with the nickname Broyle since he was tired of deciding between Brodie and Croyle. I have used it some but have also went with Croyle on occasion. Would love to see him cook though. Go Chiefs
Go D-Bowe
Go LJ
Go Broyle
Come back Phinisee Don't go lol

hermhater
10-08-2007, 07:24 PM
Awwww...touche. But, then there is always this....

(Nothing up my sleeve.)

Ta-Da!!!!^^^

Trickery!

chief31
10-08-2007, 07:25 PM
Trickery!

It is magic. :yahoo:

hermhater
10-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Maybe I missed the reason, but why Broyle? Last I checked, his name was Croyle.


In an earlier post Herm came up with the nickname Broyle since he was tired of deciding between Brodie and Croyle. I have used it some but have also went with Croyle on occasion. Would love to see him cook though. Go Chiefs
Go D-Bowe
Go LJ
Go Broyle
Come back Phinisee Don't go lol.

Call him what you want, that is just easier for me to type.

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 07:28 PM
Awwww...touche. But, then there is always this....

(Nothing up my sleeve.)

Ta-Da!!!!^^^

Now that my friend should not be legal!!!!!!

chief31
10-08-2007, 07:42 PM
Now that my friend should not be legal!!!!!!

What??? I didn't see anything. What happened?

:lol:

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 07:56 PM
What??? I didn't see anything. What happened?

:lol:

So funny! How do I get one of those??

chief31
10-08-2007, 08:18 PM
So funny! How do I get one of those??

The trick is in the sleeve. You tell them that there is nothing up your sleeve, but....

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 08:29 PM
The trick is in the sleeve. You tell them that there is nothing up your sleeve, but....
Dang it!!!!! Living in Az, all my shirts are shot sleeved!!!! I gotta move. Maaayyybe up north somewhere????????????

Polleo Pit Man
10-08-2007, 08:36 PM
What we really need is an offensive line! One that can not only make hole in the defense but also protect our quarterback, whoever he is!

miles
10-08-2007, 09:03 PM
The play calling is atrocious and Broyle will suffer just as Huard did.

But just maybe he can avoid the rush and get outside.

I'm not really arguing with you, just stating my opinion.

I know Broyle is young and untested, but you have to admit you like his arm, don't you?

Guilty...I do. But I also like fast cars with no airbags. The kid does get me cheering a little bit louder out of excitement and dare I say a wee bit of fear.

But then again, we have only seen him out there so little.

hermhater
10-08-2007, 09:15 PM
So funny! How do I get one of those??

You got to work for the man, and have your opinions respected by him too!!

:sign0103::lol: :toast2: :beer: :D

hermhater
10-08-2007, 09:17 PM
Dang it!!!!! Living in Az, all my shirts are shot sleeved!!!! I gotta move. Maaayyybe up north somewhere????????????

You and Canada could fly down and attend games together!

I have a feeling if you two met there would be an argument then you two would be fast friends.

You are both more alike than either of you know!

hermhater
10-08-2007, 09:18 PM
What we really need is an offensive line! One that can not only make hole in the defense but also protect our quarterback, whoever he is!

Well we have been discussing the lack of any opportunities for fixing the O line.

Since it is too late (missed in the draft and FA) I say we go for Broyle.

chief31
10-08-2007, 09:19 PM
You are both more alike than either of you know!


Oh, yeah. You are asking for trouble with that. I thought you knew that you aren't supposed to use personal insults.

:lol:

hermhater
10-08-2007, 09:20 PM
Oh, yeah. You are asking for trouble with that. I thought you knew that you aren't supposed to use personal insults.

:lol:

That's why the mods are there!

DrunkHillbilly
10-08-2007, 09:34 PM
You and Canada could fly down and attend games together!

I have a feeling if you two met there would be an argument then you two would be fast friends.

You are both more alike than either of you know!
I have said this in a post before and to him in a PM but he refuses to believe it! That's ok. It's all good in love and hate!!

Coach
10-08-2007, 09:59 PM
So, at 2-3 while still tied for first in our division, we pull the known-commodity that is Huard for a young, injury- and mistake-prone Croyle when we have no running threat to take any pressure off of either QB-- further increasing the risk of injury and potential mistakes to whoever is under center. Why get the "future star" hurt? Why unnecessarily hurt his confidence with bad performances? Why not ride Huard out for as long as possible since he does not have much longer to play, being the veteran "transition QB"? Why not give the Chiefs a chance to fix a few things to make it easier for Croyle when he does come in?

As far as being a "future star" goes, Croyle is a third round pick from Alabama who has suffered serious injury at every level of football he has played. Are defenses "nicer" or "softer" in the NFL than college? No.

IMO, unless Huard is injured Croyle should not be the starter in this situation, at this time.

I think you and HH both bring up great points. I think if Huard is hurt, then this will solve itself. Rep for both of you.

Chiefster
10-09-2007, 12:37 AM
We were one dimensional because we had no running game; we need both, we can't trade one for the other.

Polleo Pit Man
10-09-2007, 01:38 AM
We were one dimensional because we had no running game; we need both, we can't trade one for the other.
If we make a trade it needs to be for an entire offensive line, maybee some o line coaches?

m0ef0e
10-09-2007, 01:40 AM
Priest!!!