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AussieChiefsFan
04-19-2012, 11:03 AM
Would it be a good thing if the Extra Point after a Touchdown would be removed? And a touchdown was automatically 7 points.

TopekaRoy
04-19-2012, 12:14 PM
Absolutely not. One of the best things the NFL did was bringing back the 2 point conversion in the late 80s. How exciting is it when a team comes back from 2 touchdowns down late in the game and then has to decide, "Do we kick the extra point to send it into overtime or go for 2 to win now?"

Julius Peppers is one of the best extra-point blockers in the game. Don't take that away from us Bears fans!

AussieChiefsFan
04-19-2012, 12:36 PM
Absolutely not. One of the best things the NFL did was bringing back the 2 point conversion in the late 80s. How exciting is it when a team comes back from 2 touchdowns down late in the game and then has to decide, "Do we kick the extra point to send it into overtime or go for 2 to win now?"

Julius Peppers is one of the best extra-point blockers in the game. Don't take that away from us Bears fans!

I'm not saying the 2 point conversion would be taken away, just the extra point. So once a team scores they could either keep the 7 or go for a 2 point conversion. A successful attempt will total 8 points (like usual) and a failed attempt will total 6 points (also like usual)

TopekaRoy
04-19-2012, 12:58 PM
I'm not saying the 2 point conversion would be taken away, just the extra point. So once a team scores they could either keep the 7 or go for a 2 point conversion. A successful attempt will total 8 points (like usual) and a failed attempt will total 6 points (also like usual)

That's weird. I can't think of any major sport where you would take away a point that is already on the scoreboard.

And even if they did that, it would still take away the chance to block an extra point. It's rarer than a successful onside kick, but when it happens, it's just as exciting. I've even seen extra points blocked and ran back the other way for 2 points. That's a 3 point swing.

I'm not in favor of making any point automatic or easier to get. Special teams are an integral part of the game. They are already trying to take away kickoffs. Only 1/3 as many kicks were returned last year as the year before. And there has even been some talk of taking away punt returns because they are almost as "dangerous" as kick returns. Every punt would automatically end in a fair catch. What's left? Field goals? Why not just award a team 3 points if they get inside the opponents 20 yd line? Then all you would have is regular plays from the line of scrimmage.

And the game would never be as good as it was.

AussieChiefsFan
04-19-2012, 01:09 PM
That's weird. I can't think of any major sport where you would take away a point that is already on the scoreboard.

And even if they did that, it would still take away the chance to block an extra point. It's rarer than a successful onside kick, but when it happens, it's just as exciting. I've even seen extra points blocked and ran back the other way for 2 points. That's a 3 point swing.

I'm not in favor of making any point automatic or easier to get. Special teams are an integral part of the game. They are already trying to take away kickoffs. Only 1/3 as many kicks were returned last year as the year before. And there has even been some talk of taking away punt returns because they are almost as "dangerous" as kick returns. Every punt would automatically end in a fair catch. What's left? Field goals? Why not just award a team 3 points if they get inside the opponents 20 yd line? Then all you would have is regular plays from the line of scrimmage.

And the game would never be as good as it was.Yea taking away a point WOULD be weird. Dont get me wrong im not in favour of this, i just wanted to know what people think. I sure hope they dont take away punts and/or kickoffs

Chiefster
04-19-2012, 09:59 PM
Yup, me no likey. :D

slc chief
04-20-2012, 12:24 AM
this would be an absoulute dumb idea.no offense against the author at all .but for gawd sakes what ever happend to if it is not broke dont fix it .the nfl is perfectly fine as is now.even better a few years ago before they tried tweaking a rule here and there.LEAVE IT ALONE

Chiefs777
04-20-2012, 01:13 AM
Yeah, I would keep the extra point attempts. They seem pointless until they miss the kick! lol

The only thing the NFL needs to change about their games is the number of commercial breaks they have.

I'm an NFL junky and watch every game I can in full. Anymore, I record every game on the DVR and watch them later, so I can buzz through the commercials.

I haven't watched an NFL game live on TV in years. The key is to NOT talk to anyone, or get online until you watch the games. LOL I've stopped people mid-sentence... "DON'T TELL ME!!!"

AussieChiefsFan
04-20-2012, 01:17 AM
Yeah, I would keep the extra point attempts. They seem pointless until they miss the kick! lol

The only thing the NFL needs to change about their games is the number of commercial breaks they have.

I'm an NFL junky and watch every game I can in full. Anymore, I record every game on the DVR and watch them later, so I can buzz through the commercials.

I haven't watched an NFL game live on TV in years. The key is to NOT talk to anyone, or get online until you watch the games. LOL I've stopped people mid-sentence... "DON'T TELL ME!!!"
You dont watch chiefs games live?

Coach
04-20-2012, 08:17 AM
Yeah, I would keep the extra point attempts. They seem pointless until they miss the kick! lol

The only thing the NFL needs to change about their games is the number of commercial breaks they have.

I'm an NFL junky and watch every game I can in full. Anymore, I record every game on the DVR and watch them later, so I can buzz through the commercials.

I haven't watched an NFL game live on TV in years. The key is to NOT talk to anyone, or get online until you watch the games. LOL I've stopped people mid-sentence... "DON'T TELL ME!!!"
I do the same thing. You cut the time commitment in half to watch a game. Start the game at halftime and you end up watching the very end live because you skipped all of the commercials.

chiefnut
04-20-2012, 09:43 AM
change for the sake of change is not good. change the rule about breaking the plane of the goal line to come down in the endzone like it used to be, start allowing defensive backs to defend, stop calling roughing on any lineman who breathes on a QB, but not the x-point.

ctchiefsfan
04-20-2012, 11:26 AM
No way. Blocked or missed extra points often have a HUGE impact on a game.

Chiefs777
04-20-2012, 02:49 PM
You dont watch chiefs games live?


Only if it's a home game and I'm at Arrowhead. Otherwise, I ALWAYS watch it an hour or two later to avoid the commercials.

It's "live" to me.

AussieChiefsFan
04-20-2012, 03:03 PM
Only if it's a home game and I'm at Arrowhead. Otherwise, I ALWAYS watch it an hour or two later to avoid the commercials.

It's "live" to me.

OH ok i thought you meant like the next day or something. I understand that. Although I like watching them fully live.

figcrostic
04-20-2012, 04:22 PM
I think they should go the other direction, instead of just extra point or two point conversion and a third option, you can have you kicker try a 55 yard FG if you make it you get 3 points but if you miss it's a turnover on downs.

AussieChiefsFan
04-20-2012, 04:24 PM
I think they should go the other direction, instead of just extra point or two point conversion and a third option, you can have you kicker try a 55 yard FG if you make it you get 3 points but if you miss it's a turnover on downs.

that would be interesting. especially with a kicker as good as Succop :D

TopekaRoy
04-20-2012, 08:10 PM
I think they should go the other direction, instead of just extra point or two point conversion and a third option, you can have you kicker try a 55 yard FG if you make it you get 3 points but if you miss it's a turnover on downs.

I wouldn't want to do that after a TD, but I have had another thought.

The MISL (Major Indoor Soccer League) used to have a 2 point goal. If a goal was kicked from beyond midfield (30 yds indoors) and it went in without anyone on the kicking team touching it, it was worth 2 points.

So, how about a 4 point field goal? If the line of scrimmage is the 40 or farther, which would make it at least a 58 yd FG, it would be worth 4 pts instead of 3. This would be rare except at the very end of a half because they odds of making it are slim and you would give your opponent really good field position if you missed, but the extra point might induce some teams to go for it in certain situations.

The NFL record is 63 yds, but the college record is 69 yds and the high school record is 68 yds. (Check out this impressive list (http://www.luckyshow.org/football/field%20goals%20of%2060%20yards%20or%20more.htm).) There are plenty of guys who can kick it that distance. Accuracy is another story.

It's just something that I think would add another fun wrinkle to the game.

slc chief
04-20-2012, 08:44 PM
this would be an absoulute dumb idea.no offense against the author at all .but for gawd sakes what ever happend to if it is not broke dont fix it .the nfl is perfectly fine as is now.even better a few years ago before they tried tweaking a rule here and there.LEAVE IT ALONE

chiefnut
04-21-2012, 10:57 AM
graham gano has kicked 67,65, & 64 yd fgs in high school in 2004...wonder what ever happened to him???

AussieChiefsFan
04-21-2012, 11:02 AM
graham gano has kicked 67,65, & 64 yd fgs in high school in 2004...wonder what ever happened to him???

He plays for the redskins