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sling58
10-11-2007, 01:55 PM
Chiefs look to get offense going against Bengals

Associated Press
Winning in the NFL is nearly impossible with the league's worst defense. The problems for the Cincinnati Bengals (http://www.nfl.com/teams/cincinnatibengals/profile?team=CIN), though, go much deeper than that.
The Bengals hope to avoid their first four-game losing streak in almost five years on Sunday when they visit the Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/profile?team=KC) -- one of the league's worst offensive teams.
Armed with a wealth of talent -- particularly on offense -- the Bengals (1-3) were at worst expected to contend for a playoff spot. Four games into the season, however, they find themselves last in the AFC North with one of the league's worst records.
A loss Sunday would saddle the Bengals with four consecutive defeats for the first time since Nov. 10-Dec. 15, 2002, the season before Marvin Lewis became coach.
Cincinnati's bye came at the perfect time last weekend. The week off gave several injured players more time to heal while also providing the team with more time to recover from a 34-13 home loss to New England on Oct. 1 that prompted an angry postgame diatribe from Lewis.
"I feel horrible," cornerback Deltha O'Neal (http://www.nfl.com/players/delthao'neal/profile?id=ONE066742) said. "It's just ugly for us right now. It is so depressing to me because we are a lot better than what we are playing. A lot better."
Adding to the Bengals' woes is a multitude of off-field incidents that continued Tuesday with the suspension of starting cornerback Johnathan Joseph (http://www.nfl.com/players/johnathanjoseph/profile?id=JOS218478), who will miss Sunday's game for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.
Joseph was the ninth Bengals player arrested on a variety of charges over a nine-month period.
Two other Bengals -- linebacker Odell Thurman (http://www.nfl.com/players/odellthurman/profile?id=THU558666) and receiver [/URL]Chris Henry (http://www.nfl.com/players/chrishenry/profile?id=HEN601374) -- are suspended by the league.
Cincinnati's poor play on the field began to carry over to the sidelines against the Patriots.
Star receiver Chad Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/players/chadjohnson/profile?id=JOH104425) and quarterback Carson Palmer (http://www.nfl.com/players/carsonpalmer/profile?id=PAL249055) exchanged words on the field after Asante Samuel (http://www.nfl.com/players/asantesamuel/profile?id=SAM616410)'s interception near the goal line halted a drive late in the first half. Johnson kept at it on the bench, and walked to the locker room at halftime still sniping at Palmer.
"We're both emotional people," Johnson said Wednesday. "The situation that happened out there was my fault."
The Bengals' defense has taken a big step backward this season after finishing last year in the middle of the pack. Injuries to several key players -- most notably at linebacker -- have contributed to a unit that ranks last in scoring defense (32.3) and 30th in yards allowed (403.0).
Linebacker Lemar Marshall (http://www.nfl.com/players/lemarmarshall/profile?id=MAR436588) was placed on injured reserve last week after he tore his left Achilles' tendon in the loss to New England. Middle linebackers Ahmad Brooks (http://www.nfl.com/players/ahmadbrooks/profile?id=BRO114525) and Caleb Miller (http://www.nfl.com/players/calebmiller/profile?id=MIL154181) were inactive because of injuries, and linebacker Landon Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/players/landonjohnson/profile?id=JOH399476) sustained an eye injury against the Patriots.
The Bengals finished their last game with only two healthy linebackers -- Dhani Jones (http://www.nfl.com/players/dhanijones/profile?id=JON235149) and [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/anthonyschlegel/profile?id=SCH199958"]Anthony Schlegel (http://www.nfl.com/players/anthonyschlegel/profile?id=SCH199958), who both joined the team less than a month earlier as free agents.
There is, however, some good news for Cincinnati, which has a relatively easy remaining schedule that features 12 games against teams a combined eight games under .500. They can also take comfort in the fact that since 1990 and the expanded playoff format, 20 teams have rebounded from 1-3 starts to reach the postseason.
For the second straight year, Kansas City has rebounded from an 0-2 start to find itself with a 2-3 record. The Chiefs finished 9-7 last season and reached the playoffs for the first time since 2003.
Another trip to the postseason likely depends on whether the Chiefs can improve an offense that is 30th in scoring (12.6), 28th in total offense (282.4) and 32nd in rushing offense (65.6).
Quarterback Damon Huard (http://www.nfl.com/players/damonhuard/profile?id=HUA264861) hurt his shoulder in Sunday's 17-7 loss to Jacksonville, but the injury held up fine in practice Wednesday, clearing the way for him to remain the starter.
There had been reports Huard would be benched this week in favor of second-year man Brodie Croyle (http://www.nfl.com/players/brodiecroyle/profile?id=CRO809080).
"Right now, unless he has a setback, he's going to play," coach Herm Edwards said of Huard. "And that's good for us."
Getting Pro Bowl running back Larry Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/players/larryjohnson/profile?id=JOH399484) back in form would go a long way toward making Kansas City's feeble offense more potent. Johnson, who had a league-best 3,539 rushing yards the previous two seasons, has carried 84 times for 275 yards this year, a dismal 3.3 yards-per-carry average.
Johnson rushed for only 12 yards on nine carries against the Jaguars, and has yet to score a touchdown this season.
"I don't know if he's running differently," Edwards said. "Everyone's trying to figure out if it's him, the line. It's a little bit of everything. It has to improve and it will improve because we've got to make a better emphasis on it and how we go about it, doing it in practice and improving the runs we want to define."
The Chiefs have few concerns on the defensive side as they are one of only three teams that have held opponents to 20 points or fewer in every game this season. That is their longest streak to open a season since 1991, when they did it the first eight games.
This is the third straight season that these teams will meet in Arrowhead Stadium. The Chiefs rolled to a 37-3 victory on Jan. 1, 2006 before the Bengals recorded a 23-10 win later that year on Sept. 10 in the season opener for both teams.
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

swmochiefsfan
10-11-2007, 02:07 PM
I would love to see Brodie in person, what are the odds on him getting some playing time?

sling58
10-11-2007, 02:38 PM
4:1 probably with Huard starting. Only way is if Huard stinks it up.

Chiefster
10-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Chiefs need to "look" to get their offense going against every team they play.

rbedgood
10-11-2007, 06:45 PM
Herm has just come to realize this week that the difference between a winning team and a losing team is putting more points on the board than the other team. He never realized that just stopping them from scoring wasn't enough. Herm took his eyes off the game film for just a moment and realized the scoreboard had a score for BOTH teams. Not just the opponent.

Pro_Angler
10-11-2007, 07:11 PM
I seen brodie at the game against the Charger's he's look's like a nice kid.
I really dont think we will see Brodie till we are out of play off hunt.

DrunkHillbilly
10-11-2007, 08:50 PM
Herm has just come to realize this week that the difference between a winning team and a losing team is putting more points on the board than the other team. He never realized that just stopping them from scoring wasn't enough. Herm took his eyes off the game film for just a moment and realized the scoreboard had a score for BOTH teams. Not just the opponent.

Agreed!! I've always been an offense first type a guy! I know they say defense wins championships but ya gotta get to the championship before you can win it. The Colts have been one of the best in the league for a long time now and it's all been offense up till a year ago. Then, they just filled in a piece or two to the puzzle and they had a D. I think it's easier to have a good D than it is to have a good offense.

m0ebr0
10-12-2007, 12:09 AM
Agreed!! I've always been an offense first type a guy! I know they say defense wins championships but ya gotta get to the championship before you can win it. The Colts have been one of the best in the league for a long time now and it's all been offense up till a year ago. Then, they just filled in a piece or two to the puzzle and they had a D. I think it's easier to have a good D than it is to have a good offense.

D wins the game, but the O needs to get the points to win as well. I like the D but I agree that we need more for the O.

Maybe not so much easier to have a better D. As long as we have a good O line, thats where everything starts.

hermhater
10-12-2007, 01:19 AM
D wins the game, but the O needs to get the points to win as well. I like the D but I agree that we need more for the O.

Maybe not so much easier to have a better D. As long as we have a good O line, thats where everything starts.

I have stated before that the most important player on the field is the tackle who is blocking for your QB's blind side.

It will be nice this weekend when we go up against Carson without his blind side blocker!

Sweet!

Guru
10-12-2007, 01:21 AM
I have stated before that the most important player on the field is the tackle who is blocking for your QB's blind side.

It will be nice this weekend when we go up against Carson without his blind side blocker!

Sweet!

Knock him out of the game. Nothing bad. Just enough to postpone him playing until next week.

sling58
10-12-2007, 08:37 AM
We just need to figure out how to have balance. We always have one or the other. When we struggle at D we bring in a Defensive HC and then our O struggles and then we go and get a Offesive HeadCoach and then we rinse and repeat for decades. I myself am getting tired of it. We need someone that is OK with both sides and which ever side of the ball he is good at he should take control of that and find someone else to take over the other side he knows nothing about. OR we can go find Cowher and talk him out of retirement. Atleast he can scare players into playing to the best of their ability.

rbedgood
10-12-2007, 12:58 PM
We just need to figure out how to have balance. We always have one or the other. When we struggle at D we bring in a Defensive HC and then our O struggles and then we go and get a Offesive HeadCoach and then we rinse and repeat for decades. I myself am getting tired of it. We need someone that is OK with both sides and which ever side of the ball he is good at he should take control of that and find someone else to take over the other side he knows nothing about. OR we can go find Cowher and talk him out of retirement. Atleast he can scare players into playing to the best of their ability.

Cowher strikes fear in the heart of players...

YouTube - Bill Cowher and Joey Porter Get IT ON!

m0ebr0
10-13-2007, 03:17 AM
We just need to figure out how to have balance. We always have one or the other. When we struggle at D we bring in a Defensive HC and then our O struggles and then we go and get a Offesive HeadCoach and then we rinse and repeat for decades. I myself am getting tired of it. We need someone that is OK with both sides and which ever side of the ball he is good at he should take control of that and find someone else to take over the other side he knows nothing about. OR we can go find Cowher and talk him out of retirement. Atleast he can scare players into playing to the best of their ability.

Agreed. We need to find a balance between the 2. I like having our great D. Our O has the players to be good just not the line. Fix that we ahve a balanced team that will go somewhere.

hermhater
10-13-2007, 04:47 AM
Agreed. We need to find a balance between the 2. I like having our great D. Our O has the players to be good just not the line. Fix that we ahve a balanced team that will go somewhere.

Smells like championship.

Chiefster
10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
Cowher strikes fear in the heart of players...

YouTube - Bill Cowher and Joey Porter Get IT ON! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4cdb8i64zQ)

What a sweet little kiss. :p

Canada
10-15-2007, 01:14 AM
What a sweet little kiss. :p

It only seemed little because Cowher has such a huge chin!!

hermhater
10-15-2007, 02:26 AM
It only seemed little because Cowher has such a huge chin!!


Don't disrespect the Chin!

(Hopefully he will be our next head coach!)

:sign0098: :bananen_smilies046: :toast2: :D

Canada
10-15-2007, 03:53 AM
Don't disrespect the Chin!

(Hopefully he will be our next head coach!)

:sign0098: :bananen_smilies046: :toast2: :D

It is not disrespectful to acknowledge the size of his chin!! You could land a small airplane on it!! :lol:

sling58
10-15-2007, 07:58 AM
It is not disrespectful to acknowledge the size of his chin!! You could land a small airplane on it!! :lol:

It also has it's own department of defense.

:lol: :lol:

Canada
10-15-2007, 09:10 AM
When players get punished they have to do laps around his chin!

sling58
10-15-2007, 09:13 AM
When players get punished they have to do laps around his chin!

I heard they use it for a practice field.