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hermhater
10-12-2007, 04:14 AM
Haven't we got it right yet?

luv
10-12-2007, 04:35 AM
Sin. We chose it.

hermhater
10-12-2007, 04:39 AM
Sin. We chose it.

I'd rather blame it on something else.

Maybe da debil is out there causing it?

luv
10-12-2007, 04:43 AM
I'd rather blame it on something else.

Maybe da debil is out there causing it?
God knows about it and allows it. Didn't you ever read Job? :p

sling58
10-12-2007, 08:19 AM
God knows about it and allows it. Didn't you ever read Job? :p

My Dad is a pastor (explains a lot about me huh?) I have had to read every book in the Bible. God lets people suffer because he lets us make our own choices and will not make us do anything we don't want to do. We bring it upon ourselves. The only way is to accept Jesus but even then we will still suffer sometimes but still have to have faith. Faith is what God wants us to have and sometimes you have to "walk thru the valley of the shadow of death" before you get the inner peace.

Now let's all ask God for a Chiefs win! GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!

hermhater
10-12-2007, 03:46 PM
My Dad is a pastor (explains a lot about me huh?) I have had to read every book in the Bible. God lets people suffer because he lets us make our own choices and will not make us do anything we don't want to do. We bring it upon ourselves. The only way is to accept Jesus but even then we will still suffer sometimes but still have to have faith. Faith is what God wants us to have and sometimes you have to "walk thru the valley of the shadow of death" before you get the inner peace.

Now let's all ask God for a Chiefs win! GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!

I never said a thing about a Christain God, or ever mention Jesus.

Chiefster
10-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Sin. We chose it.


God knows about it and allows it. Didn't you ever read Job? :p


My Dad is a pastor (explains a lot about me huh?) I have had to read every book in the Bible. God lets people suffer because he lets us make our own choices and will not make us do anything we don't want to do. We bring it upon ourselves. The only way is to accept Jesus but even then we will still suffer sometimes but still have to have faith. Faith is what God wants us to have and sometimes you have to "walk thru the valley of the shadow of death" before you get the inner peace.

Now let's all ask God for a Chiefs win! GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!

All very good explanations.


I never said a thing about a Christain God, or ever mention Jesus.

When one refers simply to the term "God" it is generally inferred as the Christian-Judaic Deity.

chief31
10-13-2007, 06:18 AM
All very good explanations.



When one refers simply to the term "God" it is generally inferred as the Christian-Judaic Deity.


Or more as whatever "god" each reader believes.

luv
10-13-2007, 06:20 AM
I never said a thing about a Christain God, or ever mention Jesus.
When you speak of God, versus a god, that is referring to a proper name. The god of Christianity is God. Other gods have different proper names.

That, and which other religion has a god that lets people suffer? People usually refer to Christianity when they ask that.

Chiefster
10-13-2007, 06:30 AM
When you speak of God, versus a god, that is referring to a proper name. The god of Christianity is God. Other gods have different proper names.

That, and which other religion has a god that lets people suffer? People usually refer to Christianity when they ask that.

Yup!:)

sling58
10-13-2007, 07:56 AM
When you speak of God, versus a god, that is referring to a proper name. The god of Christianity is God. Other gods have different proper names.

That, and which other religion has a god that lets people suffer? People usually refer to Christianity when they ask that.

Which I assumed we were talking about also.

m0ebr0
10-13-2007, 10:21 PM
My Dad is a pastor (explains a lot about me huh?) I have had to read every book in the Bible. God lets people suffer because he lets us make our own choices and will not make us do anything we don't want to do. We bring it upon ourselves. The only way is to accept Jesus but even then we will still suffer sometimes but still have to have faith. Faith is what God wants us to have and sometimes you have to "walk thru the valley of the shadow of death" before you get the inner peace.

Now let's all ask God for a Chiefs win! GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!

Good explination. In Genisis God put the Tree of Knowladge here so that we can make a choice to love Him. Thats what He wanted is for us to be able to choose so He could have that unconditional love for us and we have the same for Him.

We suffer cuz of the desicions we make. Adam chose to eat of the tree therefore sin and suffering entered the world. The sin in our life causes the suffering.

God is loving and wants that relationship with us, but He is just and must punish the sin that is in our life. Therefore we need to choose God and have Jesus take our place for the punishment of sin.

Ill pray for the Chiefs to win :D

Chiefster
10-15-2007, 01:36 AM
Good explination. In Genisis God put the Tree of Knowladge here so that we can make a choice to love Him. Thats what He wanted is for us to be able to choose so He could have that unconditional love for us and we have the same for Him.

We suffer cuz of the desicions we make. Adam chose to eat of the tree therefore sin and suffering entered the world. The sin in our life causes the suffering.

God is loving and wants that relationship with us, but He is just and must punish the sin that is in our life. Therefore we need to choose God and have Jesus take our place for the punishment of sin.

Ill pray for the Chiefs to win :D

Your prayers were answered.

hermhater
10-15-2007, 01:41 AM
Good explination. In Genisis God put the Tree of Knowladge here so that we can make a choice to love Him. Thats what He wanted is for us to be able to choose so He could have that unconditional love for us and we have the same for Him.

We suffer cuz of the desicions we make. Adam chose to eat of the tree therefore sin and suffering entered the world. The sin in our life causes the suffering.

God is loving and wants that relationship with us, but He is just and must punish the sin that is in our life. Therefore we need to choose God and have Jesus take our place for the punishment of sin.

Ill pray for the Chiefs to win :D


Your prayers were answered.

So there is a god?

(BTW, when I started this thread when I was meant "Why does God let Chiefs fans suffer?" Didn't mean for it to actually turn into a religious conversation, but good answers from all!)

Chiefster
10-15-2007, 01:45 AM
So there is a God?

(BTW, when I started this thread when I was meant "Why does God let Chiefs fans suffer?" Didn't mean for it to actually turn into a religious conversation, but good answers from all!)

:lol::lol:

FYR...
...And, yes; yes there is! :D

hermhater
10-15-2007, 01:46 AM
:lol::lol:

FYR...
...And, yes; yes there is! :D

Thanks FUR!

Chiefster
10-15-2007, 01:47 AM
Post whore tip #2246

Effective post whoring is much more so when sober. :D

hermhater
10-15-2007, 01:47 AM
:lol::lol:

FYR...
...And, yes; yes there is! :D

Wow you fixed your own post a microsecond before I posted the last post.

Good timing FUR!
:lol::lol:

Chiefster
10-15-2007, 01:47 AM
Thanks!

Welcome! :lol:

hermhater
10-15-2007, 01:50 AM
Thanks FUR!


Welcome! :lol:

Post whoring is a game of milliseconds I guess!

sling58
10-15-2007, 08:22 AM
Post whoring is a game of milliseconds I guess!

It's all about the post whoring play calling.

m0ebr0
10-15-2007, 10:28 AM
Chiefs fans did not suffer this week. My prayer worked. Ill start doing that more often.:D

sling58
10-15-2007, 10:30 AM
Chiefs fans did not suffer this week.

I know I am in a blissful state fight now.

Chiefster
10-15-2007, 02:24 PM
Chiefs fans did not suffer this week. My prayer worked. Ill start doing that more often.:D

Do so every Sunday my young padawan.

sling58
10-15-2007, 02:32 PM
Do so every Sunday my young padawan.

I do it every play. "Please let us score"