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09-12-2012, 01:49 AM
After reading the posts this week I never realized how negative a fan base can be.

Defense:
So we have looked terrible on defense...counting the pre season games.
We are without our veterans to provide leadership to a still very young defense. Without Flowers and Hali who else has the leadership to hold the D together? I love DJ and his game but he has never shown the maturity to lead a D. You will be hard-pressed to find another team that has 2 starting Wideouts the same quality as the Falcons (Jones and White). We went against an explosive offense without our top 5 pass rusher and corner. There is no amount of depth that can replace that. Remember, we are still in the rebuilding phase and just now, IMO entered the time we can start stocking up certain positions with draft picks.

Offense:
I am not a Cassel supporter since I think he is a slightly below average starting qb and a solid backup in this league. I was happy when we signed him initially because he would have been perfect for 1-2 years of rebuilding mode but his contract is ludicrous. I'm not going to complain because he's our qb and we're stuck with him. We have a young O-line that did a good job of holding up against a very aggressive Defense. Our run game looked very good, this just wasn't a game we could grind it out...our defense will give us those opportunities eventually. On paper our WR's are very talented. Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, Wylie, McCluster is a very formidable group. It might take a bit to readjust to yet another Offensive gameplay with Daboll. Our Te sets could be fun this year with Moeaki and Boss.

So to sum it up, we lost to a perennial playoff contender that are trying to get over the hump to the elite discussion. They are an air it out football team that our offense can't go point for point with on a good day. They caught us with our pants down on defense with so many impact players out there wasn't a lot we could do unless everything went perfectly. We're 0-1...who cares

Also, remember we have been rebuilding for what seems like 10 years now. We've been flying through coaches and finally addressed our needs in the trenches. It's a talented roster and it will take a while for things to click. It's frustrating because we hear nfl analyst discuss how we are one of the more talented teams on paper and can match up to anyone and we don't see the results immediately. We've been teased with winning the division and making playoff runs only to struggle the next year. Soon enough we'll be back on top to the surprise of everyone.

Also, before anyone starts an attack on Pioli and his draft picks, give them some time to develop. Yes we have a lot of our core from when Herm Edwards did our draft ( I didn't like him ) but it took them several years to develop. 2008 was the year he hit a homerun for us but that was because we stockpiled a ton of picks. All of those picks took 3-4 years to develop into the "stars" that we have now.

Sorry if I rambled a bit. Please don't hijack this thread with "Matt Cassel Sucks" "Pioli Sucks". This is still a young team searching for an identity and it's only the first week.

Stay positive!

Connie Jo
09-12-2012, 02:47 AM
Excellent post! Rep!! GO CHIEFS!!!

rodu
09-12-2012, 09:47 AM
Is Romeo still running our D?

Chiefster
09-12-2012, 10:19 AM
Nice OP!

matthewschiefs
09-12-2012, 01:34 PM
You mean the sky might not be falling I swear I have heard otherwise

Chiefster
09-12-2012, 04:09 PM
You mean the sky might not be falling I swear I have heard otherwise

Quit reading to MMO's post replies.

slc chief
09-12-2012, 08:49 PM
as soon as our schedule came out i knew atlanta was going to be extremley tough. we just dont matchup well against them. throw in the fact that you are missing 3 starters on defense two of wich are your best players. and there you have a loss like we had in week 1. this team is going to be just fine that will be proven this weekend i guarantee

KCdrummer
09-12-2012, 09:50 PM
Nice post.

ctchiefsfan
09-13-2012, 08:08 AM
Excellent post!

GarH
09-13-2012, 12:40 PM
Great post. Hit the nail on the head.

Seek
09-13-2012, 01:55 PM
One positive I saw, I am not a Tyson Jackson fan to say the least. I think he is a waste of a draft pick. He actually played a pretty solid game on Sunday.

We will need our Run Defense to be solid again this week which gives us a better match up.

matthewschiefs
09-13-2012, 03:40 PM
One positive I saw, I am not a Tyson Jackson fan to say the least. I think he is a waste of a draft pick. He actually played a pretty solid game on Sunday.

We will need our Run Defense to be solid again this week which gives us a better match up.

I can say the same thing about Poe Did not like that pick at all when we made that pick I thought it would be a waste of a pick but I saw him step up and make a couple of plays in his first game. That's a good sign. I hope to be eating a huge plate of crow on that one

Seek
09-13-2012, 06:06 PM
I can say the same thing about Poe Did not like that pick at all when we made that pick I thought it would be a waste of a pick but I saw him step up and make a couple of plays in his first game. That's a good sign. I hope to be eating a huge plate of crow on that one

I would agree. I was very vocal against Poe Specially after first pre-season. He did make one very oustanding play.

fairladyZ
09-13-2012, 06:09 PM
on another bright side Brandon FLowers was full participant in practice today!! FINALLY!

#58ChiefsFan
09-13-2012, 07:29 PM
Flowers has been out six weeks but he will have more of an impact rusty than whatever Reeves ceiling is playing lights out.

Lewis sounds like he is making solid progress as well.

Hayvern
09-13-2012, 08:00 PM
I would agree. I was very vocal against Poe Specially after first pre-season. He did make one very oustanding play.

I liked the Poe pick. I know a lot of others did not, but that kid has some speed for a guy as large as he is. Once he learns all the dirty infighting tricks used in the trenches, this kid is going to be a monster.

Lord-Chiefy
09-13-2012, 10:39 PM
Minus poe and Jackson pics..we could have gotten wr and lubes backers that can cover oasis and tackle

nigeriannightmare
09-13-2012, 11:23 PM
I love this thread their is no bs from mmo. Go figure he has nothing positive to say.

drstandley31
09-17-2012, 12:22 AM
Not sure who mmo is, but I'd have to agree with him at this point!

bricooper78
09-17-2012, 12:28 AM
mmo=My Man Orton.

and the guarantee about this weekend and being fine....you and I have far differing opinions on the definition of the word "fine" lol

we have some MAJOR improvements to make boys and girls....major indeed. of that, i am POSITIVE.

LlamaNinja
09-17-2012, 12:51 AM
My problem is we always lose the games against the big teams and against any team that really tries for it. I can think of a few examples even from that nice '10 year. It might not be Cassel it might be the playbook but it sure looks like Cassel. THOUGH this week at least everyone failed around the same time?

drstandley31
09-17-2012, 01:28 AM
My problem is we always lose the games against the big teams and against any team that really tries for it. I can think of a few examples even from that nice '10 year. It might not be Cassel it might be the playbook but it sure looks like Cassel. THOUGH this week at least everyone failed around the same time?
Every phase of this team sucked today. well, punter was fine, as usual. Best running team in the league 2 years ago, can't get a yard now. the D couldn't defend a pass if it was 3 on 1. Special teams gives up a 88 yard return. Fumble on the goal line. Teams take on the personality of the coach! That should tell you everything you want to know.

LlamaNinja
09-17-2012, 01:46 AM
The two games I have attended Cassel turned the ball over around three times. I think I can dislike the guy :p

jc25
09-17-2012, 01:46 AM
as soon as our schedule came out i knew atlanta was going to be extremley tough. we just dont matchup well against them. throw in the fact that you are missing 3 starters on defense two of wich are your best players. and there you have a loss like we had in week 1. this team is going to be just fine that will be proven this weekend i guarantee


You guarantee it huh? Looks like you're WRONG!