Official Chiefs vs. Bills Game Day Thread 09-16-12

[TopekaRoy]

Kansas City Chiefs (0-1)
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vs.
Bufallo Bills (0-1)
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Sunday, September 16, Noon Central Time

at

Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY
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on CBS
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[TopekaRoy]

Team Leaders
Chiefs
Offense:
Passing
Matt Cassel
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21-33 258 yds, 1 TD

Rushing
Jamaal Charles
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16 carries, 87 yds, 0 TD

Receiving
Dexter McCluster
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6 rec, 82 yds, 0 TD

Defense:
Tackles
Derrick Johnson
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8 tackles

Sacks
Justin Houston
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1 sack

Interceptions
Nobody yet!

Bills
Offense:
Passing
Ryan Fitzpatrick
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18-32, 195 yds, 3 TDs

Rushing
C. J. Spiller
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14 carries, 169 yds, 1 TD

Recieving
Steivie Johnson
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4 rec, 55 yds, 1 TD

Defense:
Tackles
Nick Barnett
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9 tackles

Sacks
None yet!

Interceptions
Brian Scott
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1 INT

Notable Quotables
Chiefs: "You can write the story however you want to write it and explain why, but we lost because we didn't play well enough to win. They did. It's simple."

—Chiefs CB Stanford Routt after losing to Atlanta.

Bills: "I understand that. Bills fans live and die with us. I understand that. I understand how they feel. I keep trying to tell everybody that I believe we are going to be a good football team, but time is the only thing that will tell on that and winning is the only healer."

—Coach Chan Gailey reacting to fans hitting the panic button after the team's 48-28 season-opening loss to the Jets.

Spread: Bufallo by 3

ESPN Preview
Kansas City Chiefs vs. Buffalo Bills - Preview - September 16, 2012 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/nflpreview?gameId=320916002)

The Buffalo Bills picked up right where they left off in 2011, allowing 40-plus points while being routed on the road.

Now missing two of their biggest offensive weapons for an extended period of time, regrouping Sunday likely won't be easy against a visiting Kansas City Chiefs defense returning Pro Bowl linebacker Tamba Hali and seeking to avenge a blowout in last year's season opener.

Buffalo (0-1) was overmatched in a 49-21 loss at New England in the 2011 season finale, and few -- if any --offseason improvements were evident in last week's 48-28 road defeat to the New York Jets.

The defense, despite adding prized defensive end Mario Williams in the offseason, couldn't defend against shorter fields following two Ryan Fitzpatrick interceptions -- he finished with three total -- and the special teams unit allowed a punt return before the Bills were able to get points on the board.

"We definitely didn't do what we needed to do to win," Williams said. "The biggest thing was that we didn't get sacks. Starting with myself, we definitely have to put the quarterback on his back with any means necessary."

Making matters worse, starting running back Fred Jackson, who missed the last six games of 2011 with a broken leg, went down with a sprained knee ligament after only six carries for 15 yards. Wide receiver David Nelson then tore a right knee ligament in the fourth quarter.

Jackson will miss at least four weeks, while Nelson was placed on injured reserve and will miss the rest of the season.

"It's a setback," coach Chan Gailey said. "You lose experience and you lose versatility. But I think our guys can adjust."

C.J. Spiller proved up to the task of replacing Jackson, running for a 56-yard touchdown for Buffalo's first score and finishing with a career-high 169 yards.

"It's a huge blow," Spiller said of the injuries. "But we can't sit around and mope and not regain focus. This just means somebody on offense has got to step up."

Spiller scored a touchdown for an offense that shined in Buffalo's 41-7 win over Kansas City in last year's season opener. Fitzpatrick threw for 208 yards and a career high-tying four touchdowns, including two to tight end Scott Chandler, who caught one of three Fitzpatrick TD passes against the Jets.

Hali had a sack in last season's meeting, and the Chiefs defense will look to slow down the Bills in Week 2 after a rough performance last week.

Hali missed Sunday's 40-24 loss to Atlanta while serving a one-game suspension for violating the league's substance-abuse policy after finishing with 12 sacks in 2011.

His absence, along with those of safety Kendrick Lewis, cornerback Brandon Flowers and defensive tackle Anthony Toribio, seemed noticeable as the Falcons were forced to punt just once and faced only 10 third downs.

While Hali will return, the others were limited in practice this week and are questionable.

"I think as a whole we need to continue to work and get better," Hali told the team's official website. "Every guy has to do their job. We'll continue to study film and study our opponent. We just need to be on top of our game."

Fellow linebacker Derrick Johnson said the Chiefs (0-1) simply need to move on.

"We're trying to get the bad vibe over after this next game," Johnson said. "We've been through that being behind and trying to catch up and at the end of the year. We just need to start winning now, count our wins, and play better."

The offense played well at times last week, converting 11 of 16 third downs and hitting the 20-point mark after being held to 19 or less in its final nine games last season.

Jamaal Charles seems fully recovered from a torn ACL that kept him out of the final 14 games of 2011, rushing 16 times for 87 yards.

Matt Cassel finished 21 for 33 with 258 yards and hit Kevin Boss with a 22-yard touchdown pass, but he also threw two interceptions.

"I think the main thing is just not turning the ball over," Cassel said. "We've got to try to get ourselves into manageable third-down situations and stay out of those third-and-long situations."

The Bills have won four of the last five meetings with the Chiefs, and they're expected to have second-year defensive tackle Marcell Dareus despite him mourning the shooting death of his younger brother last weekend.

[Stampedecity]

30-17 Chiefs

[dl89]

If we score 30 points, it'll be because of a great turnover ratio. Both the Bills and Chiefs were -3 in turnovers last week, so look for that to be the turning point in the game.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Well im predicting a win tomorrow. Great news having Hali and Flowers back. IMO we could beat the bills without them but if not they are definitely the difference.

[TopekaRoy]

If we score 30 points, it'll be because of a great turnover ratio..

I don't think we need turnovers to put up 30 points on the Bills (althought it certainly wouldn't hurt). The Chiefs scored 17 against Atlanta in just the first half (on pace for 34) and I think they have a better defense than the Bills.

The keys to our offense will be our offensive line giving Cassel enough time to complete his passes and the 'killer b's' (especially Bowe) getting open. It's obvious that Bowe's holding out of training camp hurt his performance last week.

The key on defense will be stopping C. J. Spiller from having a big day. He will get his yards, to be sure, but we can't let him have any big plays and we can't allow the Bills to have long sustained drives, wearing down our defense and keeping our offense off the field. That's OUR agame! The defense needs to stay in their lanes, play disciplined and not over persue. If we can do all that we can win big.


Chiefs 34
Bills 23

[brdempsey69]

I don't think we need turnovers to put up 30 points on the Bills (althought it certainly wouldn't hurt). The Chiefs scored 17 against Atlanta in just the first half (on pace for 34) and I think they have a better defense than the Bills.

The keys to our offense will be our offensive line giving Cassel enough time to complete his passes and the 'killer b's' (especially Bowe) getting open. It's obvious that Bowe's holding out of training camp hurt his performance last week.

The key on defense will be stopping C. J. Spiller from having a big day. He will get his yards, to be sure, but we can't let him have any big plays and we can't allow the Bills to have long sustained drives, wearing down our defense and keeping our offense off the field. That's OUR agame! The defense needs to stay in their lanes, play disciplined and not over persue. If we can do all that we can win big.


Chiefs 34
Bills 23

^^THIS !!

Let's hope the Chiefs make it happen today. This could be a more critical game than people think.

[Lord-Chiefy]

35-13 bills?? Hope for God's sake not.

[#58ChiefsFan]

Redemption Sunday

Chiefs 24
Bills 13

[Eydugstr]

My hope is that it's a close game, with a lot of improvement from the defensive side and the halftime adjustments. Going by history we haven't done that well against the Bills, inparticular when we play there...but my hope is that last years' blowout sticks in their minds and they make the Bills earn anything they get.
:chiefs:

[matthewschiefs]

GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flowers and Hali back it's time to get it done

[brdempsey69]

GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flowers and Hali back it's time to get it done

Should help their Defense for sure.

Biggest thing on Offense: Protect Matt Cassel for 4 Quarters. They did so in the 1st half last week, but not in the 2nd half and we saw the results.

[kcticketguy]

My damn tv is broken and i need a link to watch online. any help?

[matthewschiefs]

My damn tv is broken and i need a link to watch online. any help?

Kansas City Chiefs vs Buffalo Bills Live Stream Online (http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/141199/1/watch-kansas-city-chiefs-vs-buffalo-bills.html)

[kcticketguy]

thanks! my sunday is saved!

[loyalchief91]

let's go chiefs

[Lord-Chiefy]

FG on the kick off..were down 3 already....JK..that would be bad..

[Lord-Chiefy]

hillis all alone as a wr..lol

[matthewschiefs]

Good start

[brdempsey69]

Hillis gets them off to a good start.

[matthewschiefs]

Bowe fell down great

[Lord-Chiefy]

boss needs to block better.

[matthewschiefs]

Wow going for it?

[matthewschiefs]

The loss on the run and bowe falling down killed that drive time to see if the defense decided to show up today

[loyalchief91]

ehhh

[brdempsey69]

Blew it on 1st and 2nd down and now they got to punt. They can't keep blowing opportunities like this if they want to win. They have to sustain drives and come away with points.

It's still early, though.

[matthewschiefs]

WOW a stop we got a stop WOW

[brdempsey69]

3 and out, Phew!!

[Lord-Chiefy]

that was a gift.. he was wide open.

[matthewschiefs]

that was a gift.. he was wide open.

Yes it was a gift but I will take it after last week

[loyalchief91]

got lucky he threw a terrible pass

[brdempsey69]

that was a gift.. he was wide open.

Yes, they lucked out. Now, their Offense has to take advantage of their good fortune.

[matthewschiefs]

Tackled by his own offensive line oh boy

[Lord-Chiefy]

omg...play calling sucks.

[matthewschiefs]

Once again we shoot ourselfs in the foot on offense doesn't sound good

[brdempsey69]

FFS, take a shot downfield early in the game and make their Defense play honest.

[loyalchief91]

not liking what I'm seeing at all

[Lewis_Chiefs]

Offence just hasn't got going so far.

[Lord-Chiefy]

omg holding on the kicking team???? wow

[matthewschiefs]

FFS, take a shot downfield early in the game and make their Defense play honest.


I think they were looking down field no one got open and he checked down to charles trying to make something happen

[brdempsey69]

The longer it goes on like this, the more it favors the home team.

[Lord-Chiefy]

laughable......

[loyalchief91]

defense sucks

[loyalchief91]

need to play more ****ing physical

[matthewschiefs]

D can't get off the field on 3rd down grrrr

[loyalchief91]

embarrassing

[matthewschiefs]

Here we go again

[Lord-Chiefy]

omg....this is embarrasing.

[brdempsey69]

There you go. Buffalo draws first blood. Chiefs are in trouble.

[Lewis_Chiefs]

Terrible there truly awful on D

[loyalchief91]

Game over

[loyalchief91]

We aren't a playoff team.

[Lewis_Chiefs]

We aren't a playoff team.

This

[DLB45424]

This isnt starting well, we look tired and out of position on defense

[brdempsey69]

It's critical that the Offense get a drive to some points. If they turn it back over to Buffalo without scoring, it could be a long day.

[Lord-Chiefy]

our linebackers are the weakest link by far on D. they look confused and cant cover a reciever at all.

[loyalchief91]

We have to score a touchdown on this drive and settle their crowd down. They have all the momentum.

[Lord-Chiefy]

omg the run up the middle hasnt worked yet.....throw the ball set up the run

[McLovin]

I predict as of now a loss in this game. Matt 'Checkdown' or maybe 'backup' Cassel is in the game .. I say it again we can't consistently win with Matt Cassel

[Lord-Chiefy]

omg who was he throwing to??????

[brdempsey69]

Receivers are simply NOT getting open.

[loyalchief91]

What the hell is Cassell doing

[Lord-Chiefy]

wow..nice face mask..wow just wow..

[matthewschiefs]

D has to step it up and make a stop here if not this one is going to turn into anther LONG day

[brdempsey69]

Chiefs Defense HAS to stop them on this series.

[matthewschiefs]

Receivers are simply NOT getting open.

Cassel seems to be getting some time just no one to throw to I'm really let down by Bowe so far this year

[loyalchief91]

Win, or lose. Romeo's defense has not impressed me. These are the Bills. Who are there weapons? Spiller and Stevie Johnson. That's it.

[nigeriannightmare]

What the hell is Cassell doing


The dude is 5 for 7. And clearly no one was open on that play so explain it to me why its cassel.

Our defense and our offensive line are not playing well. period.

[matthewschiefs]

The dude is 5 for 7. And clearly no one was open on that play so explain it to me why its cassel.

Our defense and our offensive line are not playing well. period.

This

It's the wrs job to get open that's not Cassel's job

[Lord-Chiefy]

linebackers linebackers linebackers

[brdempsey69]

Spiller looks unstoppable. And to think, the Chiefs could have drafted him in 2010.

[matthewschiefs]

Clearly some changes need to be made with the defense this is HORRIBLE

[loyalchief91]

This is so frustrating

[rodu]

Romeo needs to hire a DC

[matthewschiefs]

Is it possible to fine the defense for SUCKING SO BAD

[nigeriannightmare]

Fantasy football is in love with cj spiller.

Our defense is absolutely terrible.

[Lord-Chiefy]

maybe 35-13 bills was too nice??

[deerhunter2]

I love my Chiefs, but don't see any of the talent and playoff possibilities that so many raved about this offseason. Looks like another middle of the pack team so far.

[loyalchief91]

Saints, Chargers and Ravens are our next three games. 0-5 seems like reality.

[rodu]

we need a score here or it's going to get ugly

[matthewschiefs]

Romeo needs to be getting after some guys on that bench

[brdempsey69]

Saints, Chargers and Ravens are our next three games. 0-5 seems like reality.

I was just about to say 0-6, with the 6th game being in Tampa Bay & that isn't a gimmee.

[rodu]

if it gets to 0-6, we start talking about our top five pick next year

[matthewschiefs]

Guy wasn't even touched on the way to Cassel

[loyalchief91]

If they score another touchdown, I might be tempted to turn this game off.

[reded]

Wtf's up with Flowers pants? Are they shorts?

[brdempsey69]

Justin Houston is doing OK -- the rest of the Defense needs to pick it up.

[matthewschiefs]

GET OFF THE FIELD DEFENSE

3rd and 9 COME ON

[rodu]

I don't want to fire ROmeo, but he can't do handle HC and DC just as HAley couldn't do HC and OC

[matthewschiefs]

Finally good job on that drive

[matthewschiefs]

I don't want to fire ROmeo, but he can't do handle HC and DC just as HAley couldn't do HC and OC

I agree. He needs to wear 1 hat not 2

[iratefan]

i just came inside from doing some lawn work. looks like i shoulda stayed outside. nothing to see here so far.

chiefs seem to need a miracle second half to come back from this deficit.

[loyalchief91]

finally a stop

[DLB45424]

OMG we got a stop

[rodu]

well, it's not as bad as that playoff Indy loss back in the day, so there's a plus

[matthewschiefs]

i just came inside from doing some lawn work. looks like i shoulda stayed outside. nothing to see here so far.

chiefs seem to need a miracle second half to come back from this deficit.

You come back and we get a stop I'm blaming you now for the early defense :D

[iratefan]

well, it's not as bad as that playoff Indy loss back in the day, so there's a plus

ugh dont get me started on indie losses in playoffs.

this is also why i fear manning has our number now that hes in our leage. its not like he doesnt know the chiefs.

[rodu]

has Baldwin done anything this year yet?

[matthewschiefs]

Thanks Cassel GEEZE

[iratefan]

lol @ moeaki... "under.... thrown...?"

[Lord-Chiefy]

frikin cassell..cant make a descision...

[iratefan]

looks like same ****, differnt game to me. pocket collapse, cassel holding on too long, fumble and turn over.

[loyalchief91]

thanks alot cassell

[iratefan]

DJ looks pissed....

[brdempsey69]

If Buffalo scores again....it's over!!

[deerhunter2]

my chiefs could not compete with my 3rd/4th grade team. Win the division? hahahahahahahahahaha

[iratefan]

that blitz looked doomed from the start.

[rodu]

yup...

[iratefan]

ahahahahaah season meltdown. iave had too bad of a week to endure this.

[nigeriannightmare]

Wow. Enjoy the game guys Im taking my kids and dog for a boat ride.

[Lord-Chiefy]

game over..season over

[bricooper78]

We've become the special olympics team of the NFL.

NO matter how bad we're doing, everyone offers up a cookie, and says how we're doing just fine, and we'll keep practicing and everything will be okay because we're WINNERS on the inside!

Holy ***king **it this is beyond rediculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[McLovin]

Cassel ... and the rest of this team are absolutely PATHETIC... No one is playing to their potential ... The defense is playing like 3rd graders ... Berry is now jumping on the head of the offense... looks like Romeo is not the solution we were hoping for ... this is not a team more a bunch of good players playing individually.

[brdempsey69]

If Buffalo scores again....it's over!!


It's over. The Chiefs will be playing the rest of the season for draft position.

[iratefan]

wtf - no whistle on the buff facemask - and then blow the whistle while the balls being stripped. whaaa!?!?!?

[rodu]

so who do we take 1st overall?

[matthewschiefs]

Our player on have no right to be mad at anyone but themselfs

[loyalchief91]

Just no comment.

[iratefan]

ahahah technically season isnt over... cassel can still make a td drive before tha half is over!!!! (lol)

[Lord-Chiefy]

i wonder if we will draft another NT with the first pick of the draft or another bust DE..or hell maybe a linebacker? but we wont draft a QB cause Matt is Piolis man..

[bricooper78]

Well, guess we can all find something else to do this fall huh? :drunkhb: or :toast2: maybe that will help.

[Lewis_Chiefs]

Are we in the running for Matt Barkley ?

[drstandley31]

Disgusting!

[rodu]

A poor showing this season I'd like to see Piolli gone, we have two first round picks not even starting

[bricooper78]

Can't even stay in stance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bricooper78]

But Bowe apparently decided he can catch today, that's the only positive I see today

[Lord-Chiefy]

charles limping....rut row.

[iratefan]

good play! but good plays for the chiefs dont come without sever penalties

[iratefan]

"kansas city going the wrong way" - all our lives

[drstandley31]

Hope the Hunt's are enjoying all the Cap money they saved. Obvioulsy felt it was better spent on family vacations than depth on thier football team.

[rodu]

the commercial break is the most productive our team has been all day

[matthewschiefs]

HOW Do we not get the flag for a hit to the head???????????????

[rodu]

nice headshot

[bricooper78]

And here we go, the cheap shot artists in buffalo are trying to remove our team from the field one way or the other.

[MissingTBone]

I'm STILL trying to figure out why Manning didn't wanna come here instead of Denver????

[rodu]

send someone to take out the guy who tookout Berry last year and call it a day

[Sick Dog]

Well thank god I did not go today...I usually go see them when they come to Buffalo but I am sick of seeing them lose every time they go there...bad thing is I paid for Sunday ticket to watch this garbage...well at least Hali will be back next week...oh wait he is back I did not even notice...

[Lord-Chiefy]

late flag..

[rodu]

oh they called it, but still Boss is hopefully OK< he's been good for us

[DLB45424]

where is baldwin, he has done zip so far

[bricooper78]

and here are the refs trying to hold our hand and walk us into the endzone... that's sweet of them.

too bad we can't do it on our own

[Xploder]

Time for moeaki to step up!

[rodu]

where is baldwin, he has done zip so far

sitting on the bench behind Bowe, Dexter and Breaston I suppose, all the talent, none of the will to apply himself to use it

[matthewschiefs]

Nice play there by cassel if we have ANY chance we have to get a td here

[Lord-Chiefy]

finnalt matt makes a descision and ran it. nice

[rodu]

lol Matt Vick Cassel

[Xploder]

Glad to see cassel trying to rally the troops a lil

[bricooper78]

Hillis the battering ram needs to pound em

[rodu]

flashbacks of this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7636492405319981257

[bricooper78]

cripe.

[matthewschiefs]

Great Just Great

[bricooper78]

sadly, i called that. seriously? wow.

[Lord-Chiefy]

ground caused the fumble..its no fumble!!!!!!!!

[bricooper78]

no vantage point to overturn, that last replay sure looked like it's a fumble

[loyalchief91]

that's a momentum killer right there

[rodu]

so the Chiefs can suck and blow at the same time, interesting

[brdempsey69]

I'm STILL trying to figure out why Manning didn't wanna come here instead of Denver????

Because the Chiefs O-Line can't pass protect. Simple as that.

[bricooper78]

Wow. Enjoy the game guys Im taking my kids and dog for a boat ride.


game over..season over

Why didn't manning want to come to KC?

Because the Chiefs O-Line can't pass protect. Simple as that.

I thought he was just being sarcastic...:lol: missed that one

[matthewschiefs]

so depressing

[Lord-Chiefy]

frikin BS.

[Sick Dog]

I wonder if Hillis is going to run out of the locker room again to the bus this week...Baldwin should go with him does he still play for the Chiefs?

[Xploder]

Mother .….........!!!!!!

[bricooper78]

I wonder if Hillis is going to run out of the locker room again to the bus this week...Baldwin should go with him does he still play for the Chiefs?

Does ANYONE play for the Chiefs???

[loyalchief91]

Only postive thing is there's still football left. But they really have no room for error.

[Lord-Chiefy]

it seems that when we play with e sense of urgency we play better.. why not always.

[brdempsey69]

Tell you what. I had purchase tickets for the Sept. 30 game at Arrowhead via Ticketmaster.

I just put those same tickets up for sale. No way am I traveling from the Pacific Northwest to KC just to see this f@#k-story.

[bricooper78]

it seems that when we play with e sense of urgency we play better.. why not always.

I would hope the urge to not want to be 0-2 on the season already would give you the urgency to come out a LOT better than this.
I think it's less pressure on us, and less pressure on the opposition's defense playing softer on us, just makes us look better by comparison.

[DLB45424]

Romeo is not a HC, he is a good defensive coord though, they gave him the job based on the final three games of the season. Get a HC thats worth something, heck I would take Marty back over this garbage were seeing.

The players have quit on him and they can't right the ship, we have an average QB that shows flashes but isn't a great decision maker, I am tired of below average to average showings every season.

Just sad

[deerhunter2]

Hillis probably runs out of locker room because he didn't know he was going to work for such a horrible team. He couldn't see through the smoke screen from experts and diehard fans saying things like the "possibility of being division winners". He should have listened to the few sane fans instead.

[jc25]

So sick of Matt cassel. He is pathetic and we are never going to win with him. And it's agreed Romeo is not a head coach.

[kcvet]

Hail Mary full of grace.............

[drstandley31]

At least we won't have to worry about that heart breaking last second TD that gives the Bills the win.

[Sick Dog]

There has rarely been those when they play the Bills it is usually a blow out...in the Bills favor..

[bricooper78]

That was a pretty good looking return, the lone bright spot thus far!

[bricooper78]

Please tell Yoda; maybe they did "half time adjustments" lol

[matthewschiefs]

well we won't get shut out so that's good I guess

[TopekaRoy]

And the comeback begins!

[bricooper78]

And the comeback begins!

I will GLADLY paypal you money for a beer if that happens!

[iratefan]

holy christ did we really just settle for three?

[Sick Dog]

Should be 21-10 than there is a chance...

[iratefan]

should be 14-14 (see how fun this should be game is? :D)

[bricooper78]

I will not say the officials have been good, BUT they are no excuse for the score. At least we've got that, we're terrible, and that's reflected in the score. If it was a close game, then I'd probably be all over the refs lol

[Sick Dog]

Well at least they go to New Orleans next week that should be no problem...battle of the 0-2 teams they are going to be as desperate as the Chiefs...

[Sick Dog]

Great pressure...I'm out...

[Lewis_Chiefs]

No pressure on Fitzpatrick whatsoever. Johnson couldn't have been more wide open.

[bricooper78]

So, for that 1st pick of the draft, I say we draft

A ****ING CORNERBACK
then the 2nd round, how about a SAFETY
3rd round, ANOTHER CORNER...
4th round, CORNER

omg...
Lets also use a 7th round for anyone with a pulse that can RUSH THE PASSER please???????????????

[brdempsey69]

My goodness!! Who could have foreseen that things would get this ugly back when the Chiefs played their 1st preseason game. This is just downright awful & it only looks to get worse before it gets better.

[drstandley31]

For those that thought Romeo was the answer, in spite of 5 blow out losses, you were wrong. He was awful in Cleveland, and just as bad here. This team is not ready to play. And Romeo was a DC, and his D looks like a college team.

[rodu]

is it sad that my NHL team (league is locked out BTW) will win before the Chiefs do

[matthewschiefs]

We quit

[drstandley31]

OK, not going to let a beautiful Sunday go to waste watching this garbage. I'm out!

[Hayvern]

There are no excuses. The defense is what should be the star of this team and it is the weakest link right now. They look like they got nothing.

[Bike]

This is a terrible team - top to bottom.

[matthewschiefs]

The whole team is stealing money when they go to collect there checks thats players and coaches

[MissingTBone]

I was strongly against hiring Romeo as HC and I guess I was right for once!! He will never be a good HC, and I felt his defense last year wasn't what it was hyped to be. 2, no make that 3 straight HC that can't get this team prepared for a game in this league! We are the Cubs of the NFL!!

[jc25]

So, for that 1st pick of the draft, I say we draft

A ****ING CORNERBACK
then the 2nd round, how about a SAFETY
3rd round, ANOTHER CORNER...
4th round, CORNER

omg...
Lets also use a 7th round for anyone with a pulse that can RUSH THE PASSER please???????????????

1st round should be a QB. It's what makes or breaks a team. Matt Cassel completely sucks. He would barely be a 2nd string qb on any other team.

BTW WE f****** SUCK!!! Another year as a chiefs fan :thumbdown:

[Lewis_Chiefs]

Just a bit of fight and commitment would be nice. A soon as we go behind the players heads drop and they don't even look like they are putting the effort in.

[rodu]

1st round should be a QB. It's what makes or breaks a team. Matt Cassel completely sucks. He would barely be a 2nd string qb on any other team.

BTW WE f****** SUCK!!! Another year as a chiefs fan :thumbdown:
the way we draft, it's be Ryan Leif 2.0

[Lewis_Chiefs]

1st round should be a QB. It's what makes or breaks a team. Matt Cassel completely sucks. He would barely be a 2nd string qb on any other team.

BTW WE f****** SUCK!!! Another year as a chiefs fan :thumbdown:

I'm a big fan of Russel Wilson and I was gutted when we passed on him in the 3rd round with the pick before Seattle. Much better option than Cassel

[jc25]

I'm a big fan of Russel Wilson and I was gutted when we passed on him in the 3rd round with the pick before Seattle. Much better option than Cassel

I agree there were so many better choices than Cassel. Why in the hell did we not keep Orton?

[rodu]

maybe Orton didn't want to stay

[brdempsey69]

Just like I had mentioned in another thread. The Bills turned into Supermen against the Chiefs.

So what else is new?

[Bike]

My daughter just asked me: "Dad, why do like watching the Chiefs so much? They always lose."
I'm bummed.

[loyalchief91]

We are the worst team in the NFL.

[jc25]

We are the worst team in the NFL.

HELL YEA! We're going for a first round draft pick next year!

[Lewis_Chiefs]

Am I seeing things or have we actually scored a touchdown :o

[matthewschiefs]

well i guess thats good still just depressed about this team right now just cant think of one damn good thing about this team right now. Really disappointed in the Chiefs and the way they have played

[loyalchief91]

Oh well. That touchdown means nothing.

[jc25]

Exactly ^ means nothing.... All I'm hoping for is some points from Mcluster for my fantasy team lol

[brdempsey69]

Too little, too late.

And who would have thought after the 1st pre-season game against the Cards, that the Cards would be giving NE such a rough time up in NE in week 2 -- but that's exactly what they are doing.

[KCraised]

Great team on paper , besides Cassel imo, but paper obviously doesn't mean S***.
Preseason, yet again, told the story....

[Bike]

Romeo + Pioli < Belicheck.

[KCraised]

We need to conciously ask ourselves if we are the hardest of hardcore fans in the NFL or our we just flatout stupid to follow this organization? Ive missed one game since the late 80s and it took a funeral to miss that one, and i just dont know how much longer I can support this team. Unbelievable

[drstandley31]

At some point, this organization needs to earn our support!

[rodu]

The only downside to getting a new GM, is it's probably another rebuild. Do we go back to a 4-3? Do we stay a 3-4? Ugh, and no hockey to boot. At least my CFL team is doing good :s

[brdempsey69]

Raise, we have bad management. We just need to go in another direction. Fire Scott Pioli

I agree. I've had enough of Pioli. He has proven to be totally inept & I can no longer stand his being too gutless to take good O-Line prospects in the 1st round of the NFL draft.

In 2010, they passed on Okung and a chance to get a 2 fold upgrade to the O-Line by putting Okung at LT and moving Albert to LG ( and don't anyone try and tell me that Berry was the right choice -- that's total BS, you don't take a Safety in the top 5, EVER !! Safeties are a dime a dozen & I notice nobody points to Berry's big contract as another reason Carr was not resigned, but it was ).

In 2011, they pass on Carimi and go with Barry Richardson as their RT. Worked out real well, didn't it?

In 2012, they pass on DeCastro and we are seeing both Lilja and Asamoah getting their a$$es whipped at crucial times in games this year.

And don't anyone try using the excuse "those guys all got hurt". It's just a cop out, because there is no way of knowing that they would have gotten hurt, if any of the aforementioned guys had been drafted by the Chiefs.

[Subversion]

I agree. I've had enough of Pioli. He has proven to be totally inept & I can no longer stand his being too gutless to take good O-Line prospects in the 1st round of the NFL draft.

In 2010, they passed on Okung and a chance to get a 2 fold upgrade to the O-Line by putting Okung at LT and moving Albert to LG ( and don't anyone try and tell me that Berry was the right choice -- that's total BS, you don't take a Safety in the top 5, EVER !! Safeties are a dime a dozen & I notice nobody points to Berry's big contract as another reason Carr was not resigned, but it was ).

In 2011, they pass on Carimi and go with Barry Richardson as their RT. Worked out real well, didn't it?

In 2012, they pass on DeCastro and we are seeing both Lilja and Asamoah getting their a$ whipped at crucial times in games this year.

And don't anyone try using the excuse "those guys all got hurt". It's just a cop out, because there is no way of knowing that they would have gotten hurt, if any of the aforementioned guys had been drafted by the Chiefs.

Obviously you are one of those "draft Offensive line every year" KC fans so I'm just going to say I couldn't disagree with you more.

Choosing Berry over Okung I think was the right move. When is the last time you have seen a safety come out since Polamalu and Reed that had so much playmaking ability right out of college. I didn't see you complaining after his rookie season when he was being talked about as one of the best safeties in the league after 1 year. He got hurt last year, we may or may not see the same Eric Berry ever again.

Safeties are not a "dime a dozen"... yes there are a lot of safeties in the league because it's an NFL position and needs to be filled. Since there are so many, see how many safeties you can list that are better than Berry...

His contract had NOTHING to do with Brandon Carr! Carr did not want to resign with the Chiefs, he was ready to go to Dallas soon as FA hit. We never had a chance to sign him. Berry's contract has nothing to do with it, look how much cap room we have left!

HATERS will HATE

I give you the DeCastro pick, there was nothing sexy about our draft slot there and DeCastro would have been the perfect addition. We did address the line with 2 very good prospects later on...Why didn't you mention that?

Now lets look at this from a football standpoint if your hate isn't clouding your thought process so much.

Buffalo scored at will against the Chiefs today. That means, the Chiefs are playing from behind and the way to make up that many points is to air it out. When you are in that position the opposing team defense realizes this and sends extra pass rushers each time to attack the line. Okung, DeCastro, Carimi, or whoever else you want to throw in there would NOT be able to do much better with a qb who is slow in his readings and delivery.

O-Line isn't the biggest necessity to put us over the top. I.E. Steelers, Green Bay, Patriots

What do they have in common....franchise QB, coaching staff consistency, and proven leaders.

(I can't believe I'm having the O-line talk already)

[kcvet]

we now send you back to your regularly scheduled program

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:D

[jc25]

Great team on paper , besides Cassel imo, but paper obviously doesn't mean S***.
Preseason, yet again, told the story....

Wow could not agree with you more here^. I think we have one of the best if not the best team of receivers/running backs in the game.... Cassel I hate.


We need to conciously ask ourselves if we are the hardest of hardcore fans in the NFL or our we just flatout stupid to follow this organization? Ive missed one game since the late 80s and it took a funeral to miss that one, and i just dont know how much longer I can support this team. Unbelievable

No kidding I haven't missed a game in 15 years and this year has me really sick of the Kansas City Chiefs

[brdempsey69]

Obviously you are one of those "draft Offensive line every year" KC fans so I'm just going to say I couldn't disagree with you more.

Choosing Berry over Okung I think was the right move. When is the last time you have seen a safety come out since Polamalu and Reed that had so much playmaking ability right out of college. I didn't see you complaining after his rookie season when he was being talked about as one of the best safeties in the league after 1 year. He got hurt last year, we may or may not see the same Eric Berry ever again.

Safeties are not a "dime a dozen"... yes there are a lot of safeties in the league because it's an NFL position and needs to be filled. Since there are so many, see how many safeties you can list that are better than Berry...

His contract had NOTHING to do with Brandon Carr! Carr did not want to resign with the Chiefs, he was ready to go to Dallas soon as FA hit. We never had a chance to sign him. Berry's contract has nothing to do with it, look how much cap room we have left!

HATERS will HATE

I give you the DeCastro pick, there was nothing sexy about our draft slot there and DeCastro would have been the perfect addition. We did address the line with 2 very good prospects later on...Why didn't you mention that?

Now lets look at this from a football standpoint if your hate isn't clouding your thought process so much.

Buffalo scored at will against the Chiefs today. That means, the Chiefs are playing from behind and the way to make up that many points is to air it out. When you are in that position the opposing team defense realizes this and sends extra pass rushers each time to attack the line. Okung, DeCastro, Carimi, or whoever else you want to throw in there would NOT be able to do much better with a qb who is slow in his readings and delivery.

O-Line isn't the biggest necessity to put us over the top. I.E. Steelers, Green Bay, Patriots

What do they have in common....franchise QB, coaching staff consistency, and proven leaders.

(I can't believe I'm having the O-line talk already)


Typical hero-worship junk combined with old "Polamalu & Reed" copout BS. Are you Berry's personal cheerleader or what?

Neither Polamalu or Reed were drafted in the top 15 !! And both the Steelers and Ravens had decent O-Lines and decent Defensive front 7's when they made those selections.

You are incorrect. I had a long discussion with other people right on this very board right after the 2010 season, that Berry wasn't the right guy to have taken at #5, especially after the Chiefs O-Line literally got ran over at the end of the 2010 season in the final 2 games at Arrowhead in Jan. of 2011. Another poster here by the name of figcrostic and I have discussed this many times via PM's during the 2010 season and even afterward, that the Chiefs had made the wrong decision passing on Okung and taking Berry.

You can hump your neighbors dog all you want to over Berry, but the fact is, he's looked to be nothing more than a dime-a-dozen Safety thus far when he has been on the field & his impact has been very minimal. You are foolishly buying into the over-hype regarding him. Look at the two Safeties Seattle drafted in 2010 ( Earl Thomas and Cam Chancelor ) that both were selected to the Pro-Bowl in 2011 ( not Pro Bowl replacements like Berry was in 2010 -- Berry had no business being even considered for the Pro Bowl, it should have been Eric Weddle of SD, who incidently was All-Pro in 2011 and selected to the Pro Bowl ).

I can name many Safeties that are as good as Eric Berry. You are over-glorifying him. He's an OK player, but no way would I spend the #5 overall pick for him and make him the highest-paid Safety in NFL history. Not only was it fiscally foolish for the Chiefs, it was foolish from a football positional value standpoint. See todays game and tell me which player had the bigger impact that was drafted in the top 10 in 2010? It was CJ Spiller.

You also incorrect about hating on Berry. It's not Berry that's being hated on. It's the Chiefs decision to take him under the WRONG circumstances.

Do you also really believe that Carr wasn't aware of the contracts of both Berry and Flowers and realized that he had no chance of getting that type of contract in KC, regardless of their cap space? You are p!ssing on your own head and telling yourself it's raining, if you think otherwise. Carr knew the Chiefs weren't going to hand out a 3rd big contract to a 3rd DB, but if Berry hadn't been selected & they had taken Okung, then he would've thought otherwise.

As far as the selections of Allen and Stephenson, I loved them, but they are not instant starters are they? When referencing Okung, Carimi, and DeCastro, I'm referring to instant starters.

Have fun pumping up the neighbors dog over Berry in your fantasy football world, while opposing Defensive front 7's continue to obliterate the Chiefs O-Line year in and year out and it doesn't matter who the Chiefs QB is, they'll be beaten into zombies just like Trent Green, Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, and now, Matt Cassel and whoever is next in line. And meanwhile Berry will have very little impact -- just the nature of the position he plays.

[Subversion]

Too many beastiality references for me to try to have a discussion with you. I apologize for not agreeing with you.

Good day Sir

[chief31]

The offense certainly started slow. Especially the running game. But the defense did not seem to improve at all with the returns of Flowers and Hali.

The offense starting slow gave the defense a perfect opportunity to lose this game in a big hurry, and the seized that opportunity. Then, once the offense got some footing, they gave it right back with a fumble at the goalline.

Cassel did not play well prior to the end of their chances in the game. But he didn't play bad either.

This team is designed to be a port running team with a defense that dictates a low scoring game. That absolutely did not happen. The areas that are the heart of this team were flat out horrible.

What to do about it? I don't know. The same thing happened last year, and the defense recovered. They had better get their s*** together or we will have to change the offense to an "air it out" style.

Overall, Cassel did alright. He was pretty efficient during the first half, but the running game was not doing their part.

And.once the game was out of hand, Cassel did well.

The one fast fix for this team is the defense. Hands down.

You cut the scoring of our opponents and the offense looks to be capable of winning.

But the current defense does not stop anything until they have spotted our opponents a 20 point lead. THAT is what needs fixed.

[matthewschiefs]

The offense certainly started slow. Especially the running game. But the defense did not seem to improve at all with the returns of Flowers and Hali.

The offense starting slow gave the defense a perfect opportunity to lose this game in a big hurry, and the seized that opportunity. Then, once the offense got some footing, they gave it right back with a fumble at the goalline.

Cassel did not play well prior to the end of their chances in the game. But he didn't play bad either.

This team is designed to be a port running team with a defense that dictates a low scoring game. That absolutely did not happen. The areas that are the heart of this team were flat out horrible.

What to do about it? I don't know. The same thing happened last year, and the defense recovered. They had better get their s*** together or we will have to change the offense to an "air it out" style.

Overall, Cassel did alright. He was pretty efficient during the first half, but the running game was not doing their part.

And.once the game was out of hand, Cassel did well.

The one fast fix for this team is the defense. Hands down.

You cut the scoring of our opponents and the offense looks to be capable of winning.

But the current defense does not stop anything until they have spotted our opponents a 20 point lead. THAT is what needs fixed.

THIS

We need to get a DC it's clearly to much for Romeo to the head coach and DC both

[Lord-Chiefy]

35-13 bills?? Hope for God's sake not.

Wow I was very close.. I guess I know my team.

[Lord-Chiefy]

I'm the same haven't missed a game in atheist 20 years..check I got a huge custom chiefs tat on my right calf..cost me $550.
So I believe I have the right to be judgemental about my team.

[aasimon]

Wow I was very close.. I guess I know my team.

A true savant. You should start hitting up Vegas.