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#58ChiefsFan
10-02-2012, 06:52 PM
There is a group of fans on another forum who have taken a collection up to rent a banner plane for Sundays game.

Will it do any good? No.

I have to give them a little credit for at least trying to show their discontent.

Coach
10-02-2012, 07:58 PM
Give them credit for what????? Turning on their team? If you were a Chiefs player and you saw that, would that help or hurt your attitude/performance?

To each his own, but its definitely not my style.

Hayvern
10-02-2012, 08:06 PM
Give them credit for what????? Turning on their team? If you were a Chiefs player and you saw that, would that help or hurt your attitude/performance?

To each his own, but its definitely not my style.

I'm with Coach, as hard as I can be on this team in explaining what we need to do to win games, I am not being any harder on the team than what Crennell should be.

Ultimately, I would say put your money together for some words of encouragement for those who are struggling and see if that doesn't have a bigger impact.

#58ChiefsFan
10-02-2012, 08:06 PM
Give them credit for what????? Turning on their team? If you were a Chiefs player and you saw that, would that help or hurt your attitude/performance?

To each his own, but its definitely not my style.

It is no different than 3/4 of the stadium walking out on the team in the middle of a game.

Miller
10-02-2012, 08:11 PM
Give them credit for what????? Turning on their team? If you were a Chiefs player and you saw that, would that help or hurt your attitude/performance?

To each his own, but its definitely not my style.

These are not Pop Warner kids we are talking about. These are men that are being paid a crap ton of money to play a game.

And turning on their team? Listen, I have been a fan for my whole life. But, this owner needs to take this team as seriously as everyone else. To him it is just a cash cow, the fans being pissed are the only thing that will get him to understand that change needs to happen.

2010chiefs
10-02-2012, 08:18 PM
All I want is for Cassel to GO or sit his *** on the bench. Everyone else on this team is playing up to there ability. I'm sure even the team knows it and won't take it personal. The defense did enough to keep us in the game on Sunday. Charles and Bowe did a heck of a job despite Charles two fumbles. CASSEL SUCKED the whole game!

KCraised
10-02-2012, 08:31 PM
These are not Pop Warner kids we are talking about. These are men that are being paid a crap ton of money to play a game.

And turning on their team? Listen, I have been a fan for my whole life. But, this owner needs to take this team as seriously as everyone else. To him it is just a cash cow, the fans being pissed are the only thing that will get him to understand that change needs to happen.

Excellent post! Why do they need friggin words of encouragement????? Isnt making millions encouraging enough? They are grown assed men, they dont need to be coddled. Play better!

chief31
10-02-2012, 08:44 PM
All I want is for Cassel to GO or sit his *** on the bench. Everyone else on this team is playing up to there ability. I'm sure even the team knows it and won't take it personal. The defense did enough to keep us in the game on Sunday. Charles and Bowe did a heck of a job despite Charles two fumbles. CASSEL SUCKED the whole game!

This week was the first game that Cassel was actually bad. And the fact is that the rest of this team is far worse.

The defense pulled it together for almost half a game, after we were down by 20...... Again.... The receivers batter passes away, including to the enemy... Our RBs fumbled three times.... And the o-line continued to struggle in pass protection.

It's hard to make a case for Cassel this week. He played poorly.

But, as always, the exaggeration is overboard.

#58ChiefsFan
10-02-2012, 08:53 PM
This week was the first game that Cassel was actually bad. And the fact is that the rest of this team is far worse.

The defense pulled it together for almost half a game, after we were down by 20...... Again.... The receivers batter passes away, including to the enemy... Our RBs fumbled three times.... And the o-line continued to struggle in pass protection.

It's hard to make a case for Cassel this week. He played poorly.

But, as always, the exaggeration is overboard.

Pitoitua played pretty well coming in as a backup. The HC/DC is still the biggest obsticle facing this team.

chief31
10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
Pitoitua played pretty well coming in as a backup. The HC/DC is still the biggest obsticle facing this team.

Agreed. But I still think they have a chance to turn it around.

Though I am seriously focused in on Romeo.

AkChief49
10-02-2012, 11:50 PM
What if-IF- the Chiefs are putting a beat down on the Ravens(with Matt at the helm) and this plane comes buzzing by the stadium? Will someone be able to wave/call it off?

#58ChiefsFan
10-03-2012, 12:09 AM
What if-IF- the Chiefs are putting a beat down on the Ravens(with Matt at the helm) and this plane comes buzzing by the stadium? Will someone be able to wave/call it off?

I'm no FAA expert but I think all air traffic over the complex like that has to stop at 11am.

IslandKing77
10-03-2012, 12:30 AM
What if-IF- the Chiefs are putting a beat down on the Ravens

This actually made me laugh. A playoff team, in a legit conference, no 8-8 sneak ins, is going to come in to Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday and manhandle the Chiefs just like they did the last time they came here in the playoffs.

Seek
10-03-2012, 11:41 AM
All I want is for Cassel to GO or sit his *** on the bench. Everyone else on this team is playing up to there ability. I'm sure even the team knows it and won't take it personal. The defense did enough to keep us in the game on Sunday. Charles and Bowe did a heck of a job despite Charles two fumbles. CASSEL SUCKED the whole game!

Have you watched the games or are you just focused on Cassel. Wait I get it, It is Cassels fault the Chiefs Defense gave up a opening drive TD against the Chargers before Cassel even saw the field. The team completely hates Cassel and is quiting before they hit the field.

Seriously people! If you want to blame one single person, start with the Coach for not getting this team to play to their potential. Why do we have to be down by 17 points before the Defense shows Life. Right it is Cassel.

I know it is Cassel Fault that Eric Winston lined up wrong, then got smoked the following play as he complained to the ref. I mean Cassel held the ball too long right...

LargoChief
10-03-2012, 02:22 PM
It is embarassing and I am sick of excuses. We all love the team but there is a point where they have to get their heads out of there butts and play. They haven't even lead a game! The problems run deeper than Cassel, even though he sucks. The defense looked like the were escorts for the receivers in Atlanta. They are not in the right position to make plays and sometimes it seems like they are just earning paychecks. How long was Romeo going to let Berry get burned? The team has no leader, including the coach. I will never turn my back on them but I am not as excited as I used to be. I don't want Pioli to waste our draft picks again either, he needs to go back to getting Belichick his coffee and stop hurting the team.

KCraised
10-03-2012, 02:29 PM
Have you watched the games or are you just focused on Cassel. Wait I get it, It is Cassels fault the Chiefs Defense gave up a opening drive TD against the Chargers before Cassel even saw the field. The team completely hates Cassel and is quiting before they hit the field.

Seriously people! If you want to blame one single person, start with the Coach for not getting this team to play to their potential. Why do we have to be down by 17 points before the Defense shows Life. Right it is Cassel.

I know it is Cassel Fault that Eric Winston lined up wrong, then got smoked the following play as he complained to the ref. I mean Cassel held the ball too long right...

Look, Crennel has nothing to do with Cassel's s*** throws. Is he the only problem, of course not. But you have to start somewhere and shake things up. And he is the leader (like all qbs are) and should be first put under the microscope. If you think Cassel's play is good and he
isn't a problem, you are dellusional. So the defense putting Cassel down by 7 is considered an uphill climb for cassel? Wow, he IS a weak quarterback, then!

brdempsey69
10-03-2012, 03:09 PM
It is embarassing and I am sick of excuses. We all love the team but there is a point where they have to get their heads out of there butts and play. They haven't even lead a game! The problems run deeper than Cassel, even though he sucks. The defense looked like the were escorts for the receivers in Atlanta. They are not in the right position to make plays and sometimes it seems like they are just earning paychecks. How long was Romeo going to let Berry get burned? The team has no leader, including the coach. I will never turn my back on them but I am not as excited as I used to be. I don't want Pioli to waste our draft picks again either, he needs to go back to getting Belichick his coffee and stop hurting the team.

^^THIS!!

It's time for Mr. Potato Head to go. He has proven to be nothing more than a stubborn pig-headed fool as evidenced by passing on DeCastro and taking Poe. At least DeCastro was looking like a good player prior to getting hurt & nobody knows for certain that DeCastro would have been an injury casualty had he come to KC.

It baffles me that Pioli is willing to reach for project D-Lineman with his top pick, but steadfastly refuses to draft O-Lineman that have been good football players in college, like DeCastro.

What Pioli fails to understand is that O-Lineman drafted in round 1 are good choices in KC. History has proven this. Since the common draft in 1967, when the Chiefs have taken an O-Lineman in round 1, they have gone to the playoffs at least once with that player on their roster, with the only exception being Victor Riley in 1998.

I'm not saying the Chiefs should go O-Line in round 1 in 2013. The franchise QB is the number 1 priority & I believe that WV QB Geno Smith is the guy they have to try and take. But, I don't have faith in Pioli to make the right decision & try and take Smith or make a reasonable trade with Washington for a promising looking youngster in Kirk Cousins.

IMHO, the Chiefs should be targeting either Smith or Cousins to bring in as their new starting QB in this coming off-season, but it probably won't happen with Pioli still being the GM.

Miller
10-03-2012, 05:52 PM
This actually made me laugh. A playoff team, in a legit conference, no 8-8 sneak ins, is going to come in to Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday and manhandle the Chiefs just like they did the last time they came here in the playoffs.


It did me too. But this is exactly the type of game the Chiefs win. They win the ones they have no business winning, lose the rest. I hoping beyond hope that they show up for this game, and be the team I thought they would be after that first pre season game.

Canada
10-03-2012, 07:19 PM
This actually made me laugh. A playoff team, in a legit conference, no 8-8 sneak ins, is going to come in to Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday and manhandle the Chiefs just like they did the last time they came here in the playoffs.Just out of curiosity...why do you even watch the games? You KNOW they are going to lose. Is it just so you can come in here and call out fans who do support the team?

2010chiefs
10-03-2012, 09:45 PM
Yes I've watched the games. Here are my rankings between 1-10. 10 being best.

Defensive Line-6
Offensive Line-6
Secondary-6
Running Backs-8 (9 without the fumbles)
Receivers-6 (Due to crappy QB overthrown passes)
Quarterback-3
Coaching-3
General Manager-1

With that said Yes I will call for Matt Cassels head first since we're stuck with the other two for now. (Crennel/Pioli)

hometeam
10-03-2012, 11:08 PM
I have not posted here in a long time. I still correspond with Connie Jo on a regular basis, and some others like Clint and Dave from time to time. I wanted to sign back in today to comment on this.

For you folks who think this is a bad idea. Its not about getting Pioli fired, or Cassel benched, its about showing the organization that the fans have had enough.

With that I leave with something to think about.

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.

Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionaries and rebels—men and women who dared to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.

edit; Benching Cassel is not about finding out of Brady Quinn is a better QB. It is likely that he is just as bad (I cringe to think of any QB worse) it is about ACCOUNTABILITY. You bench Cassel becuase his play has been terrible, and give someone else a shot. You dont stick with a guy just becuase you overpaid him. Thats all about EGO. not about WINNING.

chief31
10-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Yes I've watched the games. Here are my rankings between 1-10. 10 being best.

Defensive Line-6
Offensive Line-6
Secondary-6
Running Backs-8 (9 without the fumbles)
Receivers-6 (Due to crappy QB overthrown passes)
Quarterback-3
Coaching-3
General Manager-1

With that said Yes I will call for Matt Cassels head first since we're stuck with the other two for now. (Crennel/Pioli)

So the defense and their 34 Points allowed per game are better than average, while the RBs (With four fumbles, on returned to the one, another at the goalline) are currently an 8, and the receivers who are slapping passes to the other team ... They are all doing above average?

chief31
10-04-2012, 12:21 AM
We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.


It tends to be a pretty good idea not to disguise your dissent as disloyalty too.

#58ChiefsFan
10-04-2012, 01:28 AM
It tends to be a pretty good idea not to disguise your dissent as disloyalty too.

Do you think by now there should have been at least some BS accountability PR statement released by either Pioli and/or Hunt? Not to this specifically but the blowout season we are having.

They hang ol Romeo out there in his press conferences to take the heat he has rightfully earned through his poor performance yet where's either one of them?

Judging by where this whole idea was hatched I won't venture a guess as to what they are trying to accomplish, but I wonder if it will bring some response from the organization.

2010chiefs
10-04-2012, 02:15 AM
So the defense and their 34 Points allowed per game are better than average, while the RBs (With four fumbles, on returned to the one, another at the goalline) are currently an 8, and the receivers who are slapping passes to the other team ... They are all doing above average?

8 because we have the most rushing yards in the NFL and Jamal Charles is second in the league in rushing. I'm sure you allready know that though as smart as you are!
You defend a crappy QB better then any fan I've ever met.

Seek
10-04-2012, 10:02 AM
Look, Crennel has nothing to do with Cassel's s*** throws. Is he the only problem, of course not. But you have to start somewhere and shake things up. And he is the leader (like all qbs are) and should be first put under the microscope. If you think Cassel's play is good and he
isn't a problem, you are dellusional. So the defense putting Cassel down by 7 is considered an uphill climb for cassel? Wow, he IS a weak quarterback, then!

I am not saying Cassel's play is good. I am saying everyone is blaming Cassel like he is the CAUSE of all of this. People saying that benching Cassel will spark this team... I say BS..... There is many many reasons that can't be explained other than this team is just not ready to play to its potential and blaming the QB for that is just biased hatred towards one guy. I am saying that the Defense came out flat and not prepared before Cassel ever touched the field yet many on here are making that Cassels fault. Really... It is Cassel's fault that the Chargers scored 10 points.. so I am not defending him.

chief31
10-04-2012, 01:38 PM
Do you think by now there should have been at least some BS accountability PR statement released by either Pioli and/or Hunt? Not to this specifically but the blowout season we are having.

They hang ol Romeo out there in his press conferences to take the heat he has rightfully earned through his poor performance yet where's either one of them?

Judging by where this whole idea was hatched I won't venture a guess as to what they are trying to accomplish, but I wonder if it will bring some response from the organization.

Pretty close...

Not sure how I would handle this if I were in charge. But if we get trounced again this week, it pushes me across the line to where... Yes... Changes have to start happening immediately.

As for Hunt/Pioli, the primary mistake that would be admitted at this point is Romeo.

And until you are firing him, you do not come out to the press and tell them what a mistake your current HC was.


8 because we have the most rushing yards in the NFL and Jamal Charles is second in the league in rushing. I'm sure you allready know that though as smart as you are!
You defend a crappy QB better then any fan I've ever met.

How about that above average defense ranking second from the bottom?

And those RBS have a couple more fumbles than just Charles' two, with a lot of their stats coming in garbage time as well.

I would certainly agree that they are plenty capable of an 8, or better.

But they have not been that so far in 2012.

JC had a huge game in week three. Other than that game, our running game is likely about a three.

But I really wanted an explanation for the six you gave every aspect of this defense.

Seek
10-04-2012, 01:41 PM
Yes I've watched the games. Here are my rankings between 1-10. 10 being best.

Defensive Line-6
Offensive Line-6
Secondary-6
Running Backs-8 (9 without the fumbles)
Receivers-6 (Due to crappy QB overthrown passes)
Quarterback-3
Coaching-3
General Manager-1

With that said Yes I will call for Matt Cassels head first since we're stuck with the other two for now. (Crennel/Pioli)

Your Stuck with Cassel as well, unless you need to see it for yourself that Quinn and Stanzi are not even close to the starting QB as Cassel. I mean it was not even close in pre-season. Unless you are suggesting these two play in hopes to have a fair shot at the Suck For Luck er Geno Smith campaign.

Connie Jo
10-04-2012, 08:35 PM
Give them credit for what????? Turning on their team? If you were a Chiefs player and you saw that, would that help or hurt your attitude/performance?

To each his own, but its definitely not my style.

THIS!!!!

Connie Jo
10-04-2012, 08:38 PM
These are not Pop Warner kids we are talking about. These are men that are being paid a crap ton of money to play a game.

And turning on their team? Listen, I have been a fan for my whole life. But, this owner needs to take this team as seriously as everyone else. To him it is just a cash cow, the fans being pissed are the only thing that will get him to understand that change needs to happen.

Apparently you've never witnessed Clark Hunt at Arrowhead watching his Chiefs play! He's as much a fan as any of us, and he wants to WIN just like we all do. He get's upset when we lose, also! Talk to the man sometime about his, & his beloved fathers, Chiefs...look in his eyes...you'll see the same passion for the Chiefs every other loyal fan has, & then some!

Connie Jo
10-04-2012, 08:50 PM
Pitoitua played pretty well coming in as a backup. The HC/DC is still the biggest obsticle facing this team.

Agree!!

Connie Jo
10-04-2012, 09:14 PM
There is a group of fans on another forum who have taken a collection up to rent a banner plane for Sundays game.

Will it do any good? No.

I have to give them a little credit for at least trying to show their discontent.

The Chiefs have a flying event planned for this Sunday's game also. It's been planned for a while now. This Sunday's game marks the beginning of October, Breast Cancer Awareness Month. The Chiefs franchise & team has traditionally made many contributions towards supporting the month of October & BCA. They will be honoring survivor's during the game also. The flyover event will be a historical one this year, as announced by the Chiefs below;

From the Chiefs regarding this Sundays game against the Ravens: "Special Flyover; Arrive early for the National Anthem to witness one of the largest flyovers in Arrowhead history! 19 Civilian Cessnas will travel over Arrowhead trailed by pink smoke in honor of Breast Cancer Awareness month."

Personally, I find it very disrespectful that a group of purely self absorbed fans...will be attempting such a worthless distraction on this Sunday's game in particular, considering the recognition and honor related to Breast Cancer Awareness & survivor's. :(

I'm thankful however, they don't represent our entire fanbase.

2010chiefs
10-04-2012, 10:27 PM
Pretty close...

Not sure how I would handle this if I were in charge. But if we get trounced again this week, it pushes me across the line to where... Yes... Changes have to start happening immediately.

As for Hunt/Pioli, the primary mistake that would be admitted at this point is Romeo.

And until you are firing him, you do not come out to the press and tell them what a mistake your current HC was.



How about that above average defense ranking second from the bottom?

And those RBS have a couple more fumbles than just Charles' two, with a lot of their stats coming in garbage time as well.

I would certainly agree that they are plenty capable of an 8, or better.

But they have not been that so far in 2012.

JC had a huge game in week three. Other than that game, our running game is likely about a three.

But I really wanted an explanation for the six you gave every aspect of this defense.


The defense kept us the game against New Orleans and helped us win that game more then the offense did. They held there ground in the second half and shut down a dynamic offense preventing Brees from completing a single pass.
They did the same for us against the Chargers and our offense(Cassel) could not take advantage. Over thrown crucial passes and throwing an interception when we needed it the most.
Besides that. You do realize that our Head coach is calling our defensive plays. It doesn't all fall on our defensive players. Crappy defense=crappy head coach.
That's why I give them 6. They've played above average against the Saints and Chargers. Turnovers and and being on the field too long is what's killed our defense.

chief31
10-08-2012, 02:26 PM
The defense kept us the game against New Orleans and helped us win that game more then the offense did. They held there ground in the second half and shut down a dynamic offense preventing Brees from completing a single pass.
They did the same for us against the Chargers and our offense(Cassel) could not take advantage. Over thrown crucial passes and throwing an interception when we needed it the most.
Besides that. You do realize that our Head coach is calling our defensive plays. It doesn't all fall on our defensive players. Crappy defense=crappy head coach.
That's why I give them 6. They've played above average against the Saints and Chargers. Turnovers and and being on the field too long is what's killed our defense.

The same defense that launched us down by 20+ points, right?

They came around in the second half, as did the offense. And they have finally come 'round to where they are supposed to be.

But they were horrible in the first half of that game, just as they were in the other three of our first four games.

Ryfo18
10-08-2012, 03:34 PM
The same defense that launched us down by 20+ points, right?

They came around in the second half, as did the offense. And they have finally come 'round to where they are supposed to be.

But they were horrible in the first half of that game, just as they were in the other three of our first four games.


Please get your facts right.

The game was 10-6 until the 3rd quarter.

In the 3rd quarter

McCluster fumbled on a play he was hurt. Saints ball at KC 19 yard line. They scored a touchdown.

M.Cassel pass short left intended for S.Breaston INTERCEPTED by J.Greer at KC 35. J.Greer to KC 7 for 28 yards (B.Albert).

The defense gave up 26 yards and 14 points. The defense is not to blame there. Sorry.

NO 24, KC 6 at that point.





Horrible in the first half? Giving up 10 points to a team that averages 28 a game? Umm, I failing to see where they were horrible.

And if you're talking about the Chargers game...17 of San Diego's 27 first half points came off turnovers. The field goal was after a Cassel pick that the Chargers brought back to the KC 28. They scored a TD after Charles fumbled at the 5, and they brought a pick 6 back to the house.

Again the defense did not play horrible. They gave up 17 points and a whopping 27 yards.

No turnovers, we could be looking at a 10-6 game.

McLovin
10-08-2012, 09:40 PM
I have not posted here in a long time. I still correspond with Connie Jo on a regular basis, and some others like Clint and Dave from time to time. I wanted to sign back in today to comment on this.

For you folks who think this is a bad idea. Its not about getting Pioli fired, or Cassel benched, its about showing the organization that the fans have had enough.

With that I leave with something to think about.

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.

Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionaries and rebels—men and women who dared to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.

edit; Benching Cassel is not about finding out of Brady Quinn is a better QB. It is likely that he is just as bad (I cringe to think of any QB worse) it is about ACCOUNTABILITY. You bench Cassel becuase his play has been terrible, and give someone else a shot. You dont stick with a guy just becuase you overpaid him. Thats all about EGO. not about WINNING.

THIS

Canada
10-09-2012, 05:11 PM
Soooo....here we are in the eye of the national media being compared to Raider fans and Philly fans. I guess flying banner around, booing players at charity events, "allegedly" cheering for an injured QB, leaving games early, booing the home team have all come back to haunt us. The attention we are getting right now makes Chiefs fans look like idiots and nothing has changed on the team.Way to make a difference. :bananen_smilies046:

#58ChiefsFan
10-09-2012, 06:39 PM
Soooo....here we are in the eye of the national media being compared to Raider fans and Philly fans. I guess flying banner around, booing players at charity events, "allegedly" cheering for an injured QB, leaving games early, booing the home team have all come back to haunt us. The attention we are getting right now makes Chiefs fans look like idiots and nothing has changed on the team.Way to make a difference. :bananen_smilies046:

Although it wasn't as big of a story don't forget when Polumolu knocked himself silly on Maneris thigh that we got blasted by squealernation for being bad fans. There is a definite pattern developing over the last few years.

chief31
10-09-2012, 09:44 PM
Maybe.... Just maybe, Raiders and Eagles fans get a bad rep from a small minority of fans who do things that produce the reputation.

I have known several Raiders and a few Eagles fans, and none were the type of people who would act like the reps of those fanbases.

Well... One Raiders fan probably would.:lol:

Seek
10-10-2012, 02:12 PM
Maybe.... Just maybe, Raiders and Eagles fans get a bad rep from a small minority of fans who do things that produce the reputation.

I have known several Raiders and a few Eagles fans, and none were the type of people who would act like the reps of those fanbases.

Well... One Raiders fan probably would.:lol:
I can't comment on Eagle Fans, but from what I have experienced. Raider Fans have earned their reputation and to a point most of them feel they are obligated to act that way to uphold that reputation or feel like they have let their team down.

Other than the numerous Green Bay fans that acted like Arrowhead was Greenbay last year (which pleased me very much to see leaving very upset), there is no other fan base at Arrowhead that pissed me off more than Raider Fans.

Hayvern
10-10-2012, 07:33 PM
I can't comment on Eagle Fans, but from what I have experienced. Raider Fans have earned their reputation and to a point most of them feel they are obligated to act that way to uphold that reputation or feel like they have let their team down.

Other than the numerous Green Bay fans that acted like Arrowhead was Greenbay last year (which pleased me very much to see leaving very upset), there is no other fan base at Arrowhead that pissed me off more than Raider Fans.

Agreed, Raiders fans are the absolute worse, not because they yell at the players on the field, but rather that they want to fight (literally fight) any fan from an opposing team. It is the way they are.

Other fans can come to Arrowhead and wear their Jerseys. I have even high-fived them in the stands when their team does something good. The sportsmanship and acceptance of other fans in Arrowhead has pretty much been above reproach.

Not so with Raiders fans. If you walk into a Raiders game wearing red, you take your life in your own hands. It is so bad that at LA collisem when the Raiders played there, they stopped serving alcohol because of it.

Raiders fans are some of the worse.

nigeriannightmare
10-10-2012, 09:21 PM
I can't comment on Eagle Fans, but from what I have experienced. Raider Fans have earned their reputation and to a point most of them feel they are obligated to act that way to uphold that reputation or feel like they have let their team down.

Other than the numerous Green Bay fans that acted like Arrowhead was Greenbay last year (which pleased me very much to see leaving very upset), there is no other fan base at Arrowhead that pissed me off more than Raider Fans.


The playoff game against baltimore there was a father and son that were baltimore fans being heckled in the bathroom and the kid was maybe 10ish. I said don't worry not all kc fans act like that and we got to talking. I don't know if he works for the organization but he attends everygame every year home and away. He said pittsburgh is a place he will never go back to. And he has been to every stadium in the nfl. He said he loved arrowhead the tailgating the stadium and the fans.

And to tell the truth I have been to the colliseum, granted I was in the lower level and I was with raider fans but they actually weren't that bad. I got heckled but it was good fun. Now Indy, sucked. Grandmas threw popcorn at us.

Seek
10-11-2012, 10:10 AM
The playoff game against baltimore there was a father and son that were baltimore fans being heckled in the bathroom and the kid was maybe 10ish. I said don't worry not all kc fans act like that and we got to talking. I don't know if he works for the organization but he attends everygame every year home and away. He said pittsburgh is a place he will never go back to. And he has been to every stadium in the nfl. He said he loved arrowhead the tailgating the stadium and the fans.

And to tell the truth I have been to the colliseum, granted I was in the lower level and I was with raider fans but they actually weren't that bad. I got heckled but it was good fun. Now Indy, sucked. Grandmas threw popcorn at us.

I have seen some very poor sportsmanship from Chiefs fans over the years. Most of them end up getting kicked out because of it.

The problem is when opposing teams fans go to Arrowhead expecting warm welcomes and then acting like we are supposed to be passive to them acting like D Bags...

nigeriannightmare
10-11-2012, 11:26 AM
I have seen some very poor sportsmanship from Chiefs fans over the years. Most of them end up getting kicked out because of it.

The problem is when opposing teams fans go to Arrowhead expecting warm welcomes and then acting like we are supposed to be passive to them acting like D Bags...

I'm all for a little heckling but a grown man calling a 10 year old kid out because he's from Baltimore is extraordinarily weak IMO.

chiefnut
10-11-2012, 11:46 AM
i think it is a lot easier to be gracious fans when your team is a contender, the more seasons your team does well the easier it is to be good sports especially if your team is winning or even the occasional home defeat. HOWEVER the more frustrated the fan becomes over his/her team continually losing and in disapointing fashion, the more difficult it is not to take it out on opposing fans. the CHIEFS have had a home winning tradition unequaled in the nfl during the 80's and 90's only to start getting slapped down and kicked around over the last 6 years. it happened so quickly we have not had time to adjust to being an nfl cellar dweller. after enuf time on the bottom you learn to get excited over the little things like an unexpected victory [pretty much all wins are unexpected]. i am a Pittsburgh Pirate fan so after 20 straight losing seasons i speak from experience. ask anyone about how great the experience to visit pnc park is as a visiting fan is. i hope we as CHIEFS fans never get to that point, but i can understand our change in temprament and lack of common courtesy as a fan base....and i do not condone nor excuse it. So i say as a fellow CHIEFS fan we need to just suck it up and try to be the type of fans we expect ourselves to be.

Seek
10-11-2012, 01:25 PM
I'm all for a little heckling but a grown man calling a 10 year old kid out because he's from Baltimore is extraordinarily weak IMO.

I have heckled kids before only stating they are wearing the wrong uniform and that before the day is over they need to have Daddy buy him a Chiefs Hat or shirt. Usually that happens when the Dad is wearing a Chiefs shirt and the kid is wearing the opponents and the father starts heckling his son too...

nigeriannightmare
10-11-2012, 04:29 PM
I have heckled kids before only stating they are wearing the wrong uniform and that before the day is over they need to have Daddy buy him a Chiefs Hat or shirt. Usually that happens when the Dad is wearing a Chiefs shirt and the kid is wearing the opponents and the father starts heckling his son too...

Now that's proper heckling this was a drunk douche and like I said the father said he loved kc.