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matthewschiefs
10-07-2012, 05:10 PM
This one has me FREAKING pissed. They took 2 tds off the board. 2 just so the Ravens could FREAKING WIN With there BS.

The whistle didn't blow until after we had the ball in the endzone Flacco was not down :blindref: :blindref: :blindref: they make up some BS reason to keep the ravens on the field. and these jokes thought they deserved a freaking raise. F%$@ them :blindref:

Hayvern
10-07-2012, 05:12 PM
Really? I call BS. The Chiefs sucked this weekend and you cannot blame the refs for freaking two field goals. We cannot expect to always have Cassel rush for over a hundred yards in the first half, we cannot turn the ball over three freaking times and expect to win. Complain about the refs all you want, but this team has to play better than they did today. Period

matthewschiefs
10-07-2012, 05:24 PM
We scored more then 2 field goals the refs just took it off the board We scored enough to win the game PERIOD. We do have to play better but we outplayed them made a play to get the lead late the refs took it off the board with a bs call. They helped the ravens hold on end of story

garciakcfan
10-07-2012, 05:25 PM
Really? I call BS. The Chiefs sucked this weekend and you cannot blame the refs for freaking two field goals. We cannot expect to always have Cassel rush for over a hundred yards in the first half, we cannot turn the ball over three freaking times and expect to win. Complain about the refs all you want, but this team has to play better than they did today. Period


Really? You don't think for one second that that play was blown dead waaaaayyyyy too early?? It was a joke! our defense played well and cassell played as his usual self. I actually started to cheer when he got hurt! No matter what happened during the game and yes, it had no business being that close with all the turnovers but that was a horrible call and a game changing turnover for us!

rodu
10-07-2012, 05:26 PM
going to need video evidence; to youtube!!

Eydugstr
10-07-2012, 05:28 PM
Really? I call BS. The Chiefs sucked this weekend and you cannot blame the refs for freaking two field goals. We cannot expect to always have Cassel rush for over a hundred yards in the first half, we cannot turn the ball over three freaking times and expect to win. Complain about the refs all you want, but this team has to play better than they did today. Period

You meant Charles, right? Cassel did a nice 16 yard scramble, with that being said, though.

Hayvern
10-07-2012, 05:28 PM
Really? You don't think for one second that that play was blown dead waaaaayyyyy too early?? It was a joke! our defense played well and cassell played as his usual self. I actually started to cheer when he got hurt! No matter what happened during the game and yes, it had no business being that close with all the turnovers but that was a horrible call and a game changing turnover for us!

You know, here is what I think. If the roles had been reversed, you would have been thankful for this call. It was a judgement call and was called what it was.

I think this aligns very closely with the Braves/Cardinals game. The pathetic Braves fans would have been screaming for the infield fly if the Short Stop in that play had dropped the ball, picked it up and thrown a double play.

So no, I do not think that was a bad call, and while it would have changed the game for us. Cassel holding on to the fumble on the goal line would have changed it to.

matthewschiefs
10-07-2012, 05:29 PM
We made a lot of mistakes to. But the refs gave them a do over on a HUGE mistake we didn't get that. If we got a do over on the fumble by cassel on the goal line maybe we would have scored. They got a do over we didn't get the same they affected the outcome

Ryfo18
10-07-2012, 05:36 PM
The refs are not to blame. The 2 PI calls were definitely PI. Plain and simple, you can't set picks. The fumble? Close call, but they always protect the QB in that situation. If they blow it dead, they blow it dead. Like Vern said, if that is Cassel and the Chiefs get a call like that, everyone would nod their head in agreement.

I said it in another thread. When you have the ball on the 1 and get no points and lose by a score, there is nobody to blame but yourself. The Chiefs would have the same record as the Ravens if we had Flacco at QB. That's the only difference between these two teams.

matthewschiefs
10-07-2012, 05:39 PM
The refs are not to blame. The 2 PI calls were definitely PI. Plain and simple, you can't set picks. The fumble? Close call, but they always protect the QB in that situation. If they blow it dead, they blow it dead. Like Vern said, if that is Cassel and the Chiefs get a call like that, everyone would nod their head in agreement.

I said it in another thread. When you have the ball on the 1 and get no points and lose by a score, there is nobody to blame but yourself. The Chiefs would have the same record as the Ravens if we had Flacco at QB. That's the only difference between these two teams.


THEY DIDN'T BLOW IT DEAD. The only whistle blew after we got the ball in the endzone.

THE FACT IS THE RAVENS MADE MISTAKES JUST LIKE THE CHIEFS THEY GOT A REDO THE CHIEFS DIDN'T IT HAD AN AFFECT ON THE GAME END OF STORY

garciakcfan
10-07-2012, 05:41 PM
I agree with the fumbled snap comment but flacco wasn't even down before they blew the whistle. I know it happens all the time when it comes to sacking the qb but its a stupid rule and they need to let the play play out. It's a frustrating year and I expected a lot more from this team. Oh well....

KCraised
10-07-2012, 07:31 PM
You know, here is what I think. If the roles had been reversed, you would have been thankful for this call. It was a judgement call and was called what it was.

I think this aligns very closely with the Braves/Cardinals game. The pathetic Braves fans would have been screaming for the infield fly if the Short Stop in that play had dropped the ball, picked it up and thrown a double play.

So no, I do not think that was a bad call, and while it would have changed the game for us. Cassel holding on to the fumble on the goal line would have changed it to.

This could apply to ANY fans in sports, not just the Braves or Chiefs. How many times have you heard a mass stadium of fans groan on an obvious earned foul on thier team. If matthews sees it that way, he sees it that way. Get off your high horse.

Hayvern
10-07-2012, 07:57 PM
This could apply to ANY fans in sports, not just the Braves or Chiefs. How many times have you heard a mass stadium of fans groan on an obvious earned foul on thier team. If matthews sees it that way, he sees it that way. Get off your high horse.

This my friend is called a discussion forum, that means we post things here and we expect people to have a difference of opinion. It makes neither of us right or wrong. I will continue to get on my "high horse" if that is what it is, anytime I feel like it.

This is a pissy day, with a bunch of pissy fans who are showing just how pathetic they really are. For the first time since I have been a Chiefs fan, I am damned ashamed, seriously ashamed.

matthewschiefs
10-07-2012, 08:10 PM
This my friend is called a discussion forum, that means we post things here and we expect people to have a difference of opinion. It makes neither of us right or wrong. I will continue to get on my "high horse" if that is what it is, anytime I feel like it.

This is a pissy day, with a bunch of pissy fans who are showing just how pathetic they really are. For the first time since I have been a Chiefs fan, I am damned ashamed, seriously ashamed.

I think there's reason to be ashamed of some of the people on here and some of the people who went to the game today. People who were cheering when Cassel got hurt really need to learn that this is just football. I wanted Cassel to be benched but I'm sorry he got hurt.

Part of these forums is to vent. I vented about what I think was a horrible call from the refs that took points off the poor and really hurt any chance we still had to win. But if I were at the game I in no way would have resorted to what we saw from the Braves fans this week. I would have booed that right comes with paying the ticket and I would have left the game really poed about being hosed out of a chance to get the lead IMO But I wouldn't have throw stuff on the field. I don't think it's fair to lump those who vent about what they feel is a bad call that hurts there team on a forum and those who indanger people by throwing stuff on the field

drstandley31
10-07-2012, 08:37 PM
Frankly I think the Ref's gave us our only win, so it's probably even.

KCraised
10-07-2012, 08:46 PM
This my friend is called a discussion forum, that means we post things here and we expect people to have a difference of opinion. It makes neither of us right or wrong. I will continue to get on my "high horse" if that is what it is, anytime I feel like it.

This is a pissy day, with a bunch of pissy fans who are showing just how pathetic they really are. For the first time since I have been a Chiefs fan, I am damned ashamed, seriously ashamed.

Exactly and thats why you dont need to name call and be the moral police and call people pathetic. Your opinion on the Chiefs is great. Keep it on that and not personal opinions on people. Youve said this a couple times in posts now. If someone wants to approach it a certain way, worry about yourself and how YOU handle it

Hayvern
10-08-2012, 01:21 AM
Exactly and thats why you dont need to name call and be the moral police and call people pathetic. Your opinion on the Chiefs is great. Keep it on that and not personal opinions on people. Youve said this a couple times in posts now. If someone wants to approach it a certain way, worry about yourself and how YOU handle it

But those that would cheer a player being hurt are pathetic in my opinion. I am stating MY opinion and that is exactly what this forum is all about.

I did not single out any one person, but I did point it out to those who are cheering for the man to have his career ended from this hit. If you are one of those, then you are pathetic in my opinion. If not, then move along.

Either way, I am voicing my opinion as this board is all about.

McLovin
10-08-2012, 02:01 AM
But those that would cheer a player being hurt are pathetic in my opinion. I am stating MY opinion and that is exactly what this forum is all about.

I did not single out any one person, but I did point it out to those who are cheering for the man to have his career ended from this hit. If you are one of those, then you are pathetic in my opinion. If not, then move along.

Either way, I am voicing my opinion as this board is all about.
Single me out ... if your going to talk $hit don't be a little ***** about it ... I want his career at least in KC over... I wan't him to have a great rest of his life but I want him away from this team.... If the management would cut him I wouldn't have to hope that he played this injury for more than what it is and took early retirement but that isn't the case. If he is cleared to play he is going to be put back in so Pioli doesn't have to admit he doesn't have a clue.

Chiefster
10-08-2012, 02:54 AM
Temporarily closing this one down Matt just so that tempers can simmer down. I'll reopen it again later today since it's now after midnight.

Chiefster
10-08-2012, 12:22 PM
Ok, now let civil discussion continue.

matthewschiefs
10-08-2012, 12:41 PM
Temporarily closing this one down Matt just so that tempers can simmer down. I'll reopen it again later today since it's now after midnight.

HOW DARE YOU CLOSE MY THREAD YOU POWER HUNGRY MOD. :D :lol:

But really the refs still suck :blindref:

chief31
10-08-2012, 12:59 PM
Really? I call BS. The Chiefs sucked this weekend and you cannot blame the refs for freaking two field goals. We cannot expect to always have Cassel rush for over a hundred yards in the first half, we cannot turn the ball over three freaking times and expect to win. Complain about the refs all you want, but this team has to play better than they did today. Period

The Chiefs dominated The Ravens from start to finish. The Ravens were downright out-classed.

I am not blaming the refs, though that was some seriously s***ty timing to blow that kind of call.

But The Chiefs were, by far, the better football team on the field Sunday.

But you are absolutely right. It was, as it was last week, the turnovers that cost us this game.


You know, here is what I think. If the roles had been reversed, you would have been thankful for this call. It was a judgement call and was called what it was.

I think this aligns very closely with the Braves/Cardinals game. The pathetic Braves fans would have been screaming for the infield fly if the Short Stop in that play had dropped the ball, picked it up and thrown a double play.

So no, I do not think that was a bad call, and while it would have changed the game for us. Cassel holding on to the fumble on the goal line would have changed it to.

I am not sure, but it sounds like you are saying that you don't think it is a bad call because bad calls happen?

And perhaps a little I'll take that for a Cardinals' win anyday"?:lol:

OPLookn
10-08-2012, 03:42 PM
Single me out ... if your going to talk don't be a little ***** about it ... I want his career at least in KC over... I wan't him to have a great rest of his life but I want him away from this team.... If the management would cut him I wouldn't have to hope that he played this injury for more than what it is and took early retirement but that isn't the case. If he is cleared to play he is going to be put back in so Pioli doesn't have to admit he doesn't have a clue.

If you stood up and actually cheered when Cassel got hurt then I'll call you out. The heck with Hayvern. Cheering for someone that's got hurt playing a game is about the most idiotic thing I've ever seen.

You have every right to be frustrated with Cassel's play. I am too and yes I wanted a change at QB. Did I want it at the expense of an injury? No. Would I cheer for someone that got hurt? No and if I saw you at the game doing that I figure we'd both get thrown out because I'd have told you to shut the **** up and then there'd have been a fight. Seriously, it's a game and wishing injury on someone because they aren't playing well is about the worst thing I've ever heard.

Hayvern
10-08-2012, 03:59 PM
Single me out ... if your going to talk don't be a little ***** about it ... I want his career at least in KC over... I wan't him to have a great rest of his life but I want him away from this team.... If the management would cut him I wouldn't have to hope that he played this injury for more than what it is and took early retirement but that isn't the case. If he is cleared to play he is going to be put back in so Pioli doesn't have to admit he doesn't have a clue.

Actually, I never singled anyone out. You must have a guilty concience. I was over in the game day thread and saw someone post that they hoped Cassel's career was over. I thought that was classless, clueless and pathetic, I voiced my opinion in general to all of those who thought that way. If it was you who posted that (I said I was done with that thread and I have not been back to see who it was) then perhaps I did single you out, but you are not by far the only one.

So I am sorry if you feel personally attacked by all of this, I honestly did not know who said it, but I will not apologize for what I said. I hope we all learn something from this.

Chiefster
10-08-2012, 04:01 PM
HOW DARE YOU CLOSE MY THREAD YOU POWER HUNGRY MOD. :D :lol:

But really the refs still suck :blindref:


:sign0106: Muwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Hayvern
10-08-2012, 04:03 PM
The Chiefs dominated The Ravens from start to finish. The Ravens were downright out-classed.

I am not blaming the refs, though that was some seriously s***ty timing to blow that kind of call.

But The Chiefs were, by far, the better football team on the field Sunday.

But you are absolutely right. It was, as it was last week, the turnovers that cost us this game.



I am not sure, but it sounds like you are saying that you don't think it is a bad call because bad calls happen?

And perhaps a little I'll take that for a Cardinals' win anyday"?:lol:

Eh no disagreements, but I think Mike Metheny said it best (Cardinals Coach) "Yes it was a bad call that went our way, but we could have ended all of this had we just made the play!"

And I agree with that. So we can complain about the referee taking a touchdown or two away from us, (really the only questionable one was the Flacco fumble), but had we played cleanly then that one bad call would not have cost us the game.

garciakcfan
10-08-2012, 04:12 PM
I cheered and so what!! Do you think people were cheering and wanting to see someone really get hurt or die? No!! I cheered for the fact that change was coming! So get over yourselves and move on...

McLovin
10-08-2012, 04:16 PM
If you stood up and actually cheered when Cassel got hurt then I'll call you out. The heck with Hayvern. Cheering for someone that's got hurt playing a game is about the most idiotic thing I've ever seen.

You have every right to be frustrated with Cassel's play. I am too and yes I wanted a change at QB. Did I want it at the expense of an injury? No. Would I cheer for someone that got hurt? No and if I saw you at the game doing that I figure we'd both get thrown out because I'd have told you to shut the **** up and then there'd have been a fight. Seriously, it's a game and wishing injury on someone because they aren't playing well is about the worst thing I've ever heard.
I cheered that he was out of the game once he was up and walking ... I do hope that it ends his career as a Chief and I won't apologize for that .. as a person I truly wish him the best and hope this doesn't affect his life outside the Chiefs at all. While he was on the ground that was a totally different story, I would never cheer when a person could be injured. Also I would have prayed for his safety and healing. Again .. Yes I cheered the change at QB, I wish it would not have had to happen with Cassel getting hurt but since this was the only way the change was going to be made I cheered once I saw that he was alive, not paralyzed and walking off the field ... Again I still feel that the best part was him walking off the field .. glad to see he was ok enough to walk and glad he didn't walk back on the field.

matthewschiefs
10-08-2012, 04:17 PM
Eh no disagreements, but I think Mike Metheny said it best (Cardinals Coach) "Yes it was a bad call that went our way, but we could have ended all of this had we just made the play!"

And I agree with that. So we can complain about the referee taking a touchdown or two away from us, (really the only questionable one was the Flacco fumble), but had we played cleanly then that one bad call would not have cost us the game.

Just to be clear I don't think that one play single handly cost us the game. When you turn the ball over that many times then you can't say that. But It did have a negative affect on our chances to win that game. They got a do over on one of there mistakes. We didn't. If we got a do over on Cassel's fumble at the 1 we might have one. I just hate they affected the outcome of that game.

chief31
10-08-2012, 04:17 PM
I cheered and so what!! Do you think people were cheering and wanting to see someone really get hurt or die? No!! I cheered for the fact that change was coming! So get over yourselves and move on...

Atta boy.

Help dismiss the notion that Chiefs fans have class.

Chiefs fans have had a reputation for a long time, and now that is changed because of a minority who lack decency.

doobs_05
10-08-2012, 04:30 PM
Don't put yourself in a position where the refs can change the game or whatever that saying is(maybe im thinking UFC, don't leave the match in the judges hands). But being a ATL Braves fan and KC Chiefs fan this week that statement is so true...we should of done more and not commit erros/turnovers. Such a terrible sports week for me. FSU lost aswell but Montana State won so thats always good.

Greg Schiano
10-08-2012, 04:32 PM
If it was Ron Winter making the calls in your game, I feel your pain. The guy makes it rain yellow flags.

OPLookn
10-08-2012, 04:42 PM
I cheered that he was out of the game once he was up and walking ... I do hope that it ends his career as a Chief and I won't apologize for that .. as a person I truly wish him the best and hope this doesn't affect his life outside the Chiefs at all. While he was on the ground that was a totally different story, I would never cheer when a person could be injured. Also I would have prayed for his safety and healing. Again .. Yes I cheered the change at QB, I wish it would not have had to happen with Cassel getting hurt but since this was the only way the change was going to be made I cheered once I saw that he was alive, not paralyzed and walking off the field ... Again I still feel that the best part was him walking off the field .. glad to see he was ok enough to walk and glad he didn't walk back on the field.

Ok, sorry for the rather brash response but initially I thought you were saying you cheered for him getting hurt. As you said I liked that there was a QB change but not how it happened.

People that applauded Cassel getting hurt I would have straight up probably got in a fight with. Cheering someone that's been hurt is about as classless as a fan can be.

McLovin
10-08-2012, 04:51 PM
Ok, sorry for the rather brash response but initially I thought you were saying you cheered for him getting hurt. As you said I liked that there was a QB change but not how it happened.

People that applauded Cassel getting hurt I would have straight up probably got in a fight with. Cheering someone that's been hurt is about as classless as a fan can be.

Agreed ... I don't want to see anyone hurt ... ever no matter what team. Matt don't go away hurt ... just go away.