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Hayvern
10-09-2012, 02:54 PM
If Quinn gets the start this weekend, I am really hoping the kid has found the spark and the motivation to become a quality player in the NFL. He had tremendous talent in college and I feel like he has not really been given a chance with a team behind him. Even when he was starting in Cleveland he was always jerked back and forth between Anderson and Quinn. In Denver he never was really considered for anything.

I think we can all agree that Stanzi is just not the guy, so I hope that Quinn takes this opportunity and comes out strong. We are not out of the playoff race and if Quinn can take control and lead this team through the rest of the season, we have every reason to believe we could still make the playoffs.

doobs_05
10-09-2012, 03:42 PM
Cassel or Quinn, bucs pass D is 32nd, both men SHOULD have a good game

#58ChiefsFan
10-09-2012, 04:03 PM
Cassel or Quinn, bucs pass D is 32nd, both men SHOULD have a good game

Which is why we need to temper any expectation for the rest of the season based on this game.

Lord-Chiefy
10-09-2012, 06:23 PM
Quinn is the biggest pos on the team

chief31
10-09-2012, 09:37 PM
If Quinn starts, then I hope we never see another starter at QB for several years.

But that's my take no matter who.starts.

jap1
10-10-2012, 12:16 AM
Which is why we need to temper any expectation for the rest of the season based on this game.

This.


If Quinn starts, then I hope we never see another starter at QB for several years.

But that's my take no matter who.starts.

This.

If Quinn is the starter, I will root for him and wish him the best of success and that he has turned around his previous problems. If it is Cassel, then I hope the same.

Seek
10-11-2012, 10:17 AM
I am sure there are many hoping that Quinn fails, so that there is no more frustration from the majority of Chiefs fans that seem to hate everything. I mean success for Quinn means the Chiefs need to draft a QB in the first round is decreased and many fans may jump off that ledge if that happens.

chiefnut
10-11-2012, 11:01 AM
no matter how good or bad quinn does this week, or how any qb plays for us the rest of the year, we need to draft a quality qb in this draft. geno smith should be the main target, hopefully our season won't be that terrible that we get first dibbs on him.

70 chiefsfan70
10-11-2012, 11:14 AM
no matter how good or bad quinn does this week, or how any qb plays for us the rest of the year, we need to draft a quality qb in this draft. geno smith should be the main target, hopefully our season won't be that terrible that we get first dibbs on him.


THIS!

I like Geno Smith as well.

Seek
10-11-2012, 01:27 PM
no matter how good or bad quinn does this week, or how any qb plays for us the rest of the year, we need to draft a quality qb in this draft. geno smith should be the main target, hopefully our season won't be that terrible that we get first dibbs on him.

If Quinn does well, drafting Geno smith will be harded to accomplish if the Chiefs are in the middle round... You will need Quinn to fail leading the Chiefs to a horrible season...

doobs_05
10-11-2012, 01:48 PM
I don't follow College that much, but has Geno played any great Defenses?

OPLookn
10-11-2012, 02:01 PM
I don't follow College that much, but has Geno played any great Defenses?

This year Texas has been the best defense he's gone against. He goes up against the K-State D Oct. 20th and then the Oklahoma D Nov. 17th. Past that you're going to have to wait for a bowl game and what'll probably end up being a game against an SEC opponent. Although TCU might be an interesting defense for him to face.

Against Texas though he was a paltry 25/35 (71% completion) for 268 yards and 4 TD's. He did apparently get sacked several times though 6 rushes for -33 yards. College still considers sacks as negative rushing yardage for those that didn't know.

texaschief
10-11-2012, 02:38 PM
NOT interested in Geno AT ALL. He's going to be the next big bust.

Y'all need to remember that Quinn is the same guy who has been unable to beat out Tim Tebow (who can't beat out Sanchez), Matt Cassel, and Kyle Orton.

Expectations should be tempered.

70 chiefsfan70
10-11-2012, 03:08 PM
NOT interested in Geno AT ALL. He's going to be the next big bust.

Y'all need to remember that Quinn is the same guy who has been unable to beat out Tim Tebow (who can't beat out Sanchez), Matt Cassel, and Kyle Orton.

Expectations should be tempered.


I agree that Quinn is not the answer, but in the same sense I think he gives us a better chance that Cassel ever has.

I have only recently been watching Geno Smith and have relly liked what I saw. I know he has flaws but really have not seen them. Can you explain what and why you think he may be a bust? I am very open minded on him and just don't see it.

OPLookn
10-11-2012, 03:48 PM
NOT interested in Geno AT ALL. He's going to be the next big bust.

Y'all need to remember that Quinn is the same guy who has been unable to beat out Tim Tebow (who can't beat out Sanchez), Matt Cassel, and Kyle Orton.

Expectations should be tempered.

We'll agree to disagree on Geno. The guy has accuracy, moves the pocket and makes quick decisions. I'm not sure what your reasons are for thinking he'd ever be a bust.

On Quinn we're also talking about a HC that got fired for choosing Tebow over Quinn. Quinn has talent and has lived under a bad set of circumstances. No talent in Cleveland, a HC in Denver that was in love with Tebow and a GM in KC that's in love with Cassel.

I will borrow the meme of Charlie Sheen and go with Duh, Quinning!! I saw that somewhere else but thought it was worth a laugh.

texaschief
10-11-2012, 07:45 PM
I think he's mentally weak and just another thug from WVU. He's selfish and has ZERO humility. He taunts opposing fans and talks trash back and forth. That SCREAMS mental weakness from a "franchise QB." Is this kid talented? Absolutely. However, his personality reminds me of another supremely talented mobile QB from Virginia.

I think you're looking at a cross between V. Young and M. Vick. I wouldn't expect a G.M. who has drafted Brady, Cassel, and Stanzi to go for a QB like that... thank goodness.

I expect Geno Smith to have a better career than V. Young, but honestly, it's probably 50/50. Those kids don't give a **** about anything but themselves and we've all witnessed that over and over again. Risking a high draft pick on ANYONE from the Virginia base is WAY too risky IMO.... they just have a HORRIBLE track record and it's not worth it.

It's taken how many years for the franchise to get over their last first round QB bust... do we REALLY want them to go after a kid like this from Virginia?

I sure as hell don't... Matt Barkley neither.

LlamaNinja
10-11-2012, 07:52 PM
Geno Smith vs Clemson Orange Bowl - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB5OW9i7KHs)
Here is a nice video of Geno in the Orange bowl which should give you an idea of where he was last year in a high stakes game.

nigeriannightmare
10-12-2012, 12:23 AM
I think he's mentally weak and just another thug from WVU. He's selfish and has ZERO humility. He taunts opposing fans and talks trash back and forth. That SCREAMS mental weakness from a "franchise QB." Is this kid talented? Absolutely. However, his personality reminds me of another supremely talented mobile QB from Virginia.

I think you're looking at a cross between V. Young and M. Vick. I wouldn't expect a G.M. who has drafted Brady, Cassel, and Stanzi to go for a QB like that... thank goodness.

I expect Geno Smith to have a better career than V. Young, but honestly, it's probably 50/50. Those kids don't give a **** about anything but themselves and we've all witnessed that over and over again. Risking a high draft pick on ANYONE from the Virginia base is WAY too risky IMO.... they just have a HORRIBLE track record and it's not worth it.

It's taken how many years for the franchise to get over their last first round QB bust... do we REALLY want them to go after a kid like this from Virginia?

I sure as hell don't... Matt Barkley neither.

Yessir. The comparison to rgiii is inaccurate. Maybe talent wise but its soooo much more than that. Geno is a prima Donna no thank you. The qb out of Louisiana Monroe, kolton browning is a name to watch folks.

OPLookn
10-12-2012, 11:50 AM
I think he's mentally weak and just another thug from WVU. He's selfish and has ZERO humility. He taunts opposing fans and talks trash back and forth. That SCREAMS mental weakness from a "franchise QB." Is this kid talented? Absolutely. However, his personality reminds me of another supremely talented mobile QB from Virginia.

I think you're looking at a cross between V. Young and M. Vick. I wouldn't expect a G.M. who has drafted Brady, Cassel, and Stanzi to go for a QB like that... thank goodness.

I expect Geno Smith to have a better career than V. Young, but honestly, it's probably 50/50. Those kids don't give a **** about anything but themselves and we've all witnessed that over and over again. Risking a high draft pick on ANYONE from the Virginia base is WAY too risky IMO.... they just have a HORRIBLE track record and it's not worth it.

It's taken how many years for the franchise to get over their last first round QB bust... do we REALLY want them to go after a kid like this from Virginia?

I sure as hell don't... Matt Barkley neither.

QB Geno Smith: I can play better | Yardbarker.com (http://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/qb_geno_smith_i_can_play_better/11873596)

It's an article about the Baylor vs West Virginia game. Geno doesn't make a snarky comment, doesn't come off as a punk. I haven't seen a single instance of this so I'd like to see a video or some kind of news article. Not doubting just want to educate myself so I'm not pushing for Geno if that's true.

But my bigger question is are you really going to judge a QB because he "taunts opposing fans"? If so then Matt Cassel screams mentally weak too. He told his own fans to "shut the **** up".

While there's still a lot of football to go and then the whole interviewing process I think Geno will be vetted between now and the draft. Until then his football games and stats are all I have past this article.

chiefnut
10-12-2012, 12:47 PM
this kid strictly runs a shotgun offense, but he has been scarey accurate, even against good defenses. even nfl teams...pats, broncos,etc run alot of shotgun so he may transition well to the pros anyway. lets wait and see how he and the CHIEFS finish out their seasons

texaschief
10-12-2012, 12:59 PM
QB Geno Smith: I can play better | Yardbarker.com (http://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/qb_geno_smith_i_can_play_better/11873596)

It's an article about the Baylor vs West Virginia game. Geno doesn't make a snarky comment, doesn't come off as a punk. I haven't seen a single instance of this so I'd like to see a video or some kind of news article. Not doubting just want to educate myself so I'm not pushing for Geno if that's true.

But my bigger question is are you really going to judge a QB because he "taunts opposing fans"? If so then Matt Cassel screams mentally weak too. He told his own fans to "shut the **** up".

While there's still a lot of football to go and then the whole interviewing process I think Geno will be vetted between now and the draft. Until then his football games and stats are all I have past this article.

You have doubts that Cassel isn't mentally weak? Do you think Cassel was a QB worth risking a top 5 pick on? I didn't even think that was up for debate. It wasn't just fans Smith got into it with... it was H.S. seniors who were there as UT recruits that he talked **** to the entire 4th quarter... he wasn't even taunting adults...

Guys who operate strictly out of the shotgun are ALWAYS more accurate than drop back NFL style QBs. RGIII comparisons fall way short. If the Chiefs are gonna take a QB in the first, the best they can hope for is the next great bust to come out of USC.

AkChief49
10-12-2012, 03:17 PM
I'm with Jap 1. I do not care who starts-I'll keep rooting-probably swearing at the TV-but rooting none the less. We're not where we thought we would be, but it isn't over.....yet. It's a new chapter for Chiefs fans.....time to turn the page.

MissingTBone
10-12-2012, 07:32 PM
Yessir. The comparison to rgiii is inaccurate. Maybe talent wise but its soooo much more than that. Geno is a prima Donna no thank you. The qb out of Louisiana Monroe, kolton browning is a name to watch folks.

If we draft a qb outta LA Monroe with our number 1 pick...... I will kick my dog.... HARD!!! Lol, Jk!! Maybe....

nigeriannightmare
10-12-2012, 08:34 PM
If we draft a qb outta LA Monroe with our number 1 pick...... I will kick my dog.... HARD!!! Lol, Jk!! Maybe....


Until the combine who knows. He's only a junior. But he beat arkansas and lost to auburn and texas a and m by a total of 8 pts. He's played top level talent and has succeeded.

kcnation
10-14-2012, 12:38 AM
i really don't know what to expect this week with quinn starting.he has never really been a starting qb whereever he was.he never was given a shot anywhere.now im not a fan of quinn but im not a cassel fan either.cassel is nothing but a decent backup qb.we blew it in the draft this year as we could have has a good qb but now in this next class of qb's in the next draft there are none i would want to start and build a team around.so either we are stuck with cassel or we trade for a qb in the league and i don't think there is anyone available so we are dead in the water for several years.clark hunt is very cheap when it comes to getting quality players so don't expect him to go looking for a class qb anytime soon.before we find a qb we will have lost most of our decent current players that we have now,bowe believe me will not be a chief after this year,he seen the writing on the wall and that is why he didn't sign a contract because he knows he is going elsewhere and that is by choice.so get ready for some long years ahead of rebuilding and i mean a long time.

tornadospotter
10-14-2012, 02:22 AM
Well as always time will tell what Quinn can do, but just remember Kurt Warner was working in a grocery store, called up to back up Trent Green. You never know until the time plays out. I remember thinking Trent was going to be a bust, just because we dominate him and the Rams the season before he became a Chief. Timing in life, and careers. I hope it is right timing for Brady and our team.

jap1
10-14-2012, 12:10 PM
i really don't know what to expect this week with quinn starting.he has never really been a starting qb whereever he was.he never was given a shot anywhere.now im not a fan of quinn but im not a cassel fan either.cassel is nothing but a decent backup qb.we blew it in the draft this year as we could have has a good qb but now in this next class of qb's in the next draft there are none i would want to start and build a team around.so either we are stuck with cassel or we trade for a qb in the league and i don't think there is anyone available so we are dead in the water for several years.clark hunt is very cheap when it comes to getting quality players so don't expect him to go looking for a class qb anytime soon.before we find a qb we will have lost most of our decent current players that we have now,bowe believe me will not be a chief after this year,he seen the writing on the wall and that is why he didn't sign a contract because he knows he is going elsewhere and that is by choice.so get ready for some long years ahead of rebuilding and i mean a long time.

A lot of draft pundits have said that this is going to be a relatively deep QB class this year.

drstandley31
10-14-2012, 01:30 PM
I hope he has a great game and turns this team around. But the reality check is, he's no more quality than Cassel. As it seems every year, perhaps it's better if they just tank all together, reconsider the coaching decisions they've made, and find a real QB in the off-season. I know that's harsh, nobody wants them to lose! But we are 1-4 and our only offensive play now is, Charles left, Charles right.

Bike
10-14-2012, 01:33 PM
Quinn will make the most of this opportunity or he knows he's probably done in the NFL. He's been waiting 3 years for this. I expect him to do well and the Chiefs to win in Tampa.

Ryfo18
10-14-2012, 05:04 PM
Officially rooting for the #1 draft pick. This team sucks.

Hayvern
10-14-2012, 06:24 PM
Quinn will make the most of this opportunity or he knows he's probably done in the NFL. He's been waiting 3 years for this. I expect him to do well and the Chiefs to win in Tampa.

Luckily I had my hopes, but they were not expectations. I am alright with the fact that he sucks. Moving on now and waiting until next year. THere is nothing left to salvage.

All I can hope for now is at least one Raider win and even that is in jeopardy.

Bike
10-14-2012, 06:27 PM
Luckily I had my hopes, but they were not expectations. I am alright with the fact that he sucks. Moving on now and waiting until next year. THere is nothing left to salvage.

It's a good thing I don't make my living as an analyst...