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matthewschiefs
10-14-2012, 04:06 PM
Can you now see that it was NEVER Matt Cassel alone holding us back. This coaching staff is POOR at best. The gameplan is poor THAT'S the problem in KC. The Coaching staff needs to go And the Gm is starting to look more and more like he needs to go. This will be 2 head coaches he has failed with. In 2 attempts We are at the point where it's time for Changes to be made. At the point where while the talent is better then it was the results are the same as they were in 09 THERE ARE MUCH BIGGER problems with this team then Matt Cassel. I think everyone would now have to admit that.

#58ChiefsFan
10-14-2012, 04:15 PM
It's hard not to call for Piolis head at the same time calling for the coaches. At the very least Piloi needs some power taken from him for the failed hires.

marloweopatchiefs
10-14-2012, 04:18 PM
Matt.cassel sucks

Ryfo18
10-14-2012, 05:03 PM
We've changed coaches, we've changed OC's, we've added offensive players. The one constant has been terrible Quarterback play.

matthewschiefs
10-14-2012, 05:10 PM
Keep hating people The results with different QBs have been the same as they have been with Cassel but ya it's Cassel's fault You don't like him GET OVER IT

Ryfo18
10-14-2012, 05:13 PM
Keep hating people The results with different QBs have been the same as they have been with Cassel but ya it's Cassel's fault You don't like him GET OVER IT

I'll hate on Cassel all I want. He sucks. Palko sucks. Brady Quinn sucks.

The common theme is terrible QB play.

matthewschiefs
10-14-2012, 05:16 PM
I'll hate on Cassel all I want. He sucks. Palko sucks. Brady Quinn sucks.

The common theme is terrible QB play.

Some would think that since Multiple qbs have struggled that maybe the talent around them is the problem. Bowe is supose to be one of the best wrs isn't he 1 FREAKING catch. Look at what Tampas wrs did today. Look what ours did. At some point you have to get over your blind hate for Cassel and put blame on others for there poor play.

But yes keep hating Cassel that makes sense :ninerssuck:

Bike
10-14-2012, 05:20 PM
Keep hating people The results with different QBs have been the same as they have been with Cassel but ya it's Cassel's fault You don't like him GET OVER IT
We don't have a QB on the roster that should be starting in the NFL. Dabol is terrible, Romeo not much better, and Pioli should no way get a contract extension. 1-5 in his 4th year not acceptable.

#58ChiefsFan
10-14-2012, 05:21 PM
Does anyone honestly believe the Chiefs will make any changes over the bye? If Cassel gets cleared he'll be back and I don't know what Quinn showed to argue that, other than that it will be the same rhetoric and cliches from the front office.

nigeriannightmare
10-14-2012, 05:21 PM
I'll hate on Cassel all I want. He sucks. Palko sucks. Brady Quinn sucks.

The common theme is terrible QB play.

I wouldn't say brady played horrible he doesn't call the plays and 2 ints weren't his fault at all.

it did take daboll 7 games last year to get the miami offense going so maybe thats what it'll take this year.

But for christs sake assign someone to be dc or step down as hc to be the dc and let jim zorn be hc. Why the f are we having coaches pull double duty.

iratefan
10-14-2012, 05:24 PM
my blind hate extends to the entire team as it stands.

I hate our Oline that so predictably folds on any blitz situation.

I hate our ridiculously obvious, unambitious, stubborn to a fault playcalling. charles is going to get reinjured at the rate hes being rushed.

I hate that theres about 2 people on the team that i can trust to make a tackle. theres even less that can block.

Hating on the amount of receiver turnovers on the account of bobbles and generalized insecure ball handling.

I despise Crennel's defeatist attitude.

All i gotta say is, thank god for dustin colquitt. that guys freakin' consistent gold.

nigeriannightmare
10-14-2012, 05:33 PM
my blind hate extends to the entire team as it stands.

I hate our Oline that so predictably folds on any blitz situation.

I hate our ridiculously obvious, unambitious, stubborn to a fault playcalling. charles is going to get reinjured at the rate hes being rushed.

I hate that theres about 2 people on the team that i can trust to make a tackle. theres even less that can block.

Hating on the amount of receiver turnovers on the account of bobbles and generalized insecure ball handling.

I despise Crennel's defeatist attitude.

All i gotta say is, thank god for dustin colquitt. that guys freakin' consistent gold.

ryan Succop is pretty good too.

Three7s
10-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Some would think that since Multiple qbs have struggled that maybe the talent around them is the problem. Bowe is supose to be one of the best wrs isn't he 1 FREAKING catch. Look at what Tampas wrs did today. Look what ours did. At some point you have to get over your blind hate for Cassel and put blame on others for there poor play.

But yes keep hating Cassel that makes sense :ninerssuck:
Pioli approves this message.

matthewschiefs
10-14-2012, 05:37 PM
my blind hate extends to the entire team as it stands.

I hate our Oline that so predictably folds on any blitz situation.

I hate our ridiculously obvious, unambitious, stubborn to a fault playcalling. charles is going to get reinjured at the rate hes being rushed.

I hate that theres about 2 people on the team that i can trust to make a tackle. theres even less that can block.

Hating on the amount of receiver turnovers on the account of bobbles and generalized insecure ball handling.

I despise Crennel's defeatist attitude.

All i gotta say is, thank god for dustin colquitt. that guys freakin' consistent gold.

That's where it should be

People Whine OVER AND OVER again about Cassel but we have seen a few other qbs have the SAME problems that Cassel has.
1. Palko Ok he just plan sucked
2. Orton could move the ball couldn't get in the endzone
3. Quinn Move the ball some couldn't get in the endzone.

At SOME point you have to look and put blame of those around Cassel. Instead of just saying "if we had a real qb" Those who can't see there are MUCH bigger problems then Matt Cassel just need to get over there hate

Chiefster
10-14-2012, 05:44 PM
Guess that guy out of Wichita better start fund raising for the "Fire Pioli bench Quinn" banner because we all know that the GM and QB alone are responsible for the success/failure of any NFL franchise. :lol:

matthewschiefs
10-14-2012, 05:51 PM
Pioli approves this message.

I don't know why he would it's pretty much saying he has made more then 1 mistake as the Cassel Haters like to think. It's saying the WHOLE team hasn't done much. That's far worse for a gm then just 1 player.



Guess that guy out of Wichita better start fund raising for the "Fire Pioli bench Quinn" banner because we all know that the GM and QB alone are responsible for the success/failure of any NFL franchise. :lol:

Oh come on Pioli ordered Bowe to make 1 catch and quit He told Flowers to have a bad game. Just because he didn't them. Ya that's what happened. It's ALL PIOLI AND CASSEL

alexim58
10-14-2012, 05:57 PM
Can you now see that it was NEVER Matt Cassel alone holding us back. This coaching staff is POOR at best. The gameplan is poor THAT'S the problem in KC. The Coaching staff needs to go And the Gm is starting to look more and more like he needs to go. This will be 2 head coaches he has failed with. In 2 attempts We are at the point where it's time for Changes to be made. At the point where while the talent is better then it was the results are the same as they were in 09 THERE ARE MUCH BIGGER problems with this team then Matt Cassel. I think everyone would now have to admit that.


We have so many WHOLES to cover up .. YES! Cassel is a LAME QB .. Overrated for ONE single season. Period!

A Average QB at the best .. he's never gonna take us (or any team to the Big One)

Today OC Dabol shows that no matter if we got Montana, Manning or RGIII his game plan is AWFUL!

Our only weapon was handcuff so they push to get beaten by a QB who hadn't throw a pass is so long.

No brainner here .. he's out of sync with 1st. team

But on the other side Quinn at least have a better confidence than Cassel at this point. (Did you see Matt's face on the drive he got hurt?) He was already LOST .. beside the lack of Skills now we face his lack of confidence .. he's done.

Dabol system is F*ckin' Lame!

Today the "D" did'nt show at all.

Yes IT's not all about fault Matt Cassel but he's clearly one of the MAIN issues (He was brough by "genius" GM to build a team around him but guess what .. he's no the right one to build around)

matthewschiefs
10-15-2012, 01:37 AM
We have so many WHOLES to cover up .. YES! Cassel is a LAME QB .. Overrated for ONE single season. Period!

A Average QB at the best .. he's never gonna take us (or any team to the Big One)

Today OC Dabol shows that no matter if we got Montana, Manning or RGIII his game plan is AWFUL!

Our only weapon was handcuff so they push to get beaten by a QB who hadn't throw a pass is so long.

No brainner here .. he's out of sync with 1st. team

But on the other side Quinn at least have a better confidence than Cassel at this point. (Did you see Matt's face on the drive he got hurt?) He was already LOST .. beside the lack of Skills now we face his lack of confidence .. he's done.

Dabol system is F*ckin' Lame!

Today the "D" did'nt show at all.

Yes IT's not all about fault Matt Cassel but he's clearly one of the MAIN issues (He was brough by "genius" GM to build a team around him but guess what .. he's no the right one to build around)


Is it Cassel that's holding us back? We have seen other qbs struggle with our WRs and tes. So it's fair to question is it Cassel. When your number 1 wr goes against a poor pass defense and has 1 catch that goes WAY past the QB and that's going to be something that most qbs struggle with. I don't know how anyone can say that Cassel is the main issue when we have seen other qbs have the SAME problem. Cassel might be average. I have never said he's good but to say he's the main problem is a reach there's bigger issues then Cassel

Hayvern
10-15-2012, 04:22 AM
Is it Cassel that's holding us back? We have seen other qbs struggle with our WRs and tes. So it's fair to question is it Cassel. When your number 1 wr goes against a poor pass defense and has 1 catch that goes WAY past the QB and that's going to be something that most qbs struggle with. I don't know how anyone can say that Cassel is the main issue when we have seen other qbs have the SAME problem. Cassel might be average. I have never said he's good but to say he's the main problem is a reach there's bigger issues then Cassel

There was a point where I would have called into question our receiver corp. I have been hard on Bowe for dropped passes and certainly today he had a pretty good case of the butter fingers, but in the last couple of seasons this has not been that much of an issue.

The problem with the QB play is simply the missing of the open receivers, we have seen this many many times over the last couple of seasons. Also, the happy feet, Cassel has been very quick to go looking for the run, or the dump off pass, or the list goes on. Some of these things are required because receivers cannot get separation of course, but Cassel has not been good in helping them either.