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nigeriannightmare
10-16-2012, 10:41 AM
The Eagles are in first place and have the stones to fire their dc. We have the talent coaches aren't getting it done. Why are we such wimps come on one arrowhead shake things up we are one and five.
The Eagles are in first place and have the stones to fire their dc. We have the talent coaches aren't getting it done. Why are we such wimps come on one arrowhead shake things up we are one and five.
And who do you replace the coaches with. Coaches not good enough to stay employeed or coaches not available until the season is over currently under a contract. If you fire a coach right now, you pretty much have to promote from within and I don't know who that would be.
nigeriannightmare
10-16-2012, 12:48 PM
And who do you replace the coaches with. Coaches not good enough to stay employeed or coaches not available until the season is over currently under a contract. If you fire a coach right now, you pretty much have to promote from within and I don't know who that would be.
Well Jim Zorn and Emmitt Thomas I think are people that could fill into either a DC-thomas, or Jim Zorn as HC hes done the HC bit before and there is no way he would be worse than Romeo and maybe if romeo wasn't pulling double duty things would be different.
nigeriannightmare
10-16-2012, 12:49 PM
Or maybe we just aren't good and it was all of us just saying this team is talented. But if a first place team can shake things we should be able to.
LargoChief
10-16-2012, 12:50 PM
Try somebody!! Their water boy couldn't be worse. I am with you nigeriannightmare, this season is truly disheartening. Clark Hunt should be ashamed!!!
reded
10-16-2012, 12:56 PM
Try somebody!! Their water boy couldn't be worse. I am with you nigeriannightmare, this season is truly disheartening. Clark Hunt should be ashamed!!!
I don't even own this rusty, old, smoking junker and I'm ashamed. I can't imagine how he must feel, unless he just doesn't GAF.
Missing two hubcaps with a torn top and four bald tires......
LargoChief
10-16-2012, 01:04 PM
I just can't handle the fact that on paper this team looks REALLY good!!
#58ChiefsFan
10-16-2012, 01:21 PM
Trust the process.:drunkhb: :drunkhb: :drunkhb:
Pioli is going to be on 3 guys in a garage tomorrow talking state of the Chiefs.
Well Jim Zorn and Emmitt Thomas I think are people that could fill into either a DC-thomas, or Jim Zorn as HC hes done the HC bit before and there is no way he would be worse than Romeo and maybe if romeo wasn't pulling double duty things would be different.
I forgot about Zorne.
Has Emmitt every called a defense before. Who can actually replace Crennel as DC. If so I am ready to can Crennel Now.
reded
10-16-2012, 01:40 PM
I forgot about Zorne.
Has Emmitt every called a defense before. Who can actually replace Crennel as DC. If so I am ready to can Crennel Now.
I'm not sure anyone could do any worse at DC.
Seen the scores lately?
Chiefster
10-16-2012, 01:40 PM
Shaking things up like five different OCs in as many years kind of shake up?
nigeriannightmare
10-16-2012, 02:53 PM
Shaking things up like five different OCs in as many years kind of shake up?
You can't think the HC/DC isn't wrkng. Double duty is a failed experiment I can't believe pioli let it happen twice.
LlamaNinja
10-16-2012, 03:13 PM
Shaking things up like five different OCs in as many years kind of shake up?
Perhaps the guy that hired 5 OC's and 2 HC needs to be replaced
Perhaps the guy that hired 5 OC's and 2 HC needs to be replaced
The coaching staff is hired by the HC. It was Haley that went through the OCs.. It was Pioli's fault for hiring the HCs that hired the OCs
LlamaNinja
10-16-2012, 05:02 PM
The coaching staff is hired by the HC. It was Haley that went through the OCs.. It was Pioli's fault for hiring the HCs that hired the OCs
Poor wording on my part but you get my idea. I meant that if you have problems with a HC twice you need to look at hiring a new GM to control that situation a little better.
Poor wording on my part but you get my idea. I meant that if you have problems with a HC twice you need to look at hiring a new GM to control that situation a little better.
To be honest, other than the BIG name coaches that didn't want to leave their TV gigs, I couldn't find one Coach I really wanted except for Maybe Joe Philbin. Most people in the media wanted Crennel because of the way the team responded against Green Bay.
There really was not a head over heels coach to trump Crennel. However, I given his age, we all knew his tenure would be short regardless of the outcome of his contract.
LlamaNinja
10-16-2012, 05:27 PM
To be honest, other than the BIG name coaches that didn't want to leave their TV gigs, I couldn't find one Coach I really wanted except for Maybe Joe Philbin. Most people in the media wanted Crennel because of the way the team responded against Green Bay.
There really was not a head over heels coach to trump Crennel. However, I given his age, we all knew his tenure would be short regardless of the outcome of his contract.
I wanted Jeff Fisher but I knew he wouldnt be able to work with Pioli.
MissingTBone
10-16-2012, 10:12 PM
Did anyone think Jim Hatbaugh was gonna be the HC he has turned out to br do far? I know he was a gamer, but didn't think he would hav the impact he has so far. Weneed to think somewhat out of the box IF we end up firing Crennel at seasons end which isn't a guarantee. I think there is a coach out there who can take this roster plus a draft and motuvate us and shape us into a contender. Needs to be filled with fire and have a plan in place for our future.not sure who it is but I hope we can find him, lol!
How bout a fresh face as head coach - maybe somebody from the college ranks with some fire and fresh ideas who will win with fundamental play. I nominate Boise State HC Chris Peterson.
Chiefster
10-17-2012, 12:34 PM
You can't think the HC/DC isn't wrkng. Double duty is a failed experiment I can't believe pioli let it happen twice.
I think it's obvious that the HC/DC experiment is NOT working. I would much rather he simply be the DC and have a proven HC at the helm. My point is that you cannot simply expect there to be continuity on the field of play if there is none in the coaching staff.
Perhaps the guy that hired 5 OC's and 2 HC needs to be replaced
That certainly is a line of thinking.
fairladyZ
10-17-2012, 01:14 PM
How bout a fresh face as head coach - maybe somebody from the college ranks with some fire and fresh ideas who will win with fundamental play. I nominate Boise State HC Chris Peterson.
i would literally freak out with joy if we got peterson.. But sadly with living in boise i know he is not leaving anytime soon. He loves it here and won't leave.
But hey i can hope i'm wrong.
AkChief49
10-17-2012, 01:34 PM
The Eagles are in first place and have the stones to fire their dc. We have the talent coaches aren't getting it done. Why are we such wimps come on one arrowhead shake things up we are one and five.
Well the Iggles are 3-3 and the Giants are 4-2 which means the Giants are in 1st place. I'm not so sure the Iggles are showing "stones" as much as it's Andy Reid having Jaun Castillo fall on the sword to save his own a$$. Their defense is #12 and their offense is #11. Iggles offense is second to ours in turn over ratio with -9. We all know what turn overs can do for you.
nigeriannightmare
10-17-2012, 03:47 PM
Well the Iggles are 3-3 and the Giants are 4-2 which means the Giants are in 1st place. I'm not so sure the Iggles are showing "stones" as much as it's Andy Reid having Jaun Castillo fall on the sword to save his own a$$. Their defense is #12 and their offense is #11. Iggles offense is second to ours in turn over ratio with -9. We all know what turn overs can do for you.
Yeah I saw 3 and 2 I didn't take into account sundays loss and 3 and 3. However still second place and a game out. So they still made some changes and if it doesn't work out Im sure reid will be gone but if it does hell look like a genius. So why cant romeo do that whats he got to lose we are 1 and 5. If we don't score a TD offensively against the raiders Daboll shold be fired. Its the NFL, and if you cant score a TD offensively in 3 games you shouldn't be a coordinator.
drstandley31
10-21-2012, 05:00 PM
I forgot about Zorne.
Has Emmitt every called a defense before. Who can actually replace Crennel as DC. If so I am ready to can Crennel Now.
Who could replace Crennel as DC? Hmmmm, in the last 27 games that he's been the DC, we've allowed 30+ points to be scored and were blown out of all of them. Heck, who couldn't do that!
Who could replace Crennel as DC? Hmmmm, in the last 27 games that he's been the DC, we've allowed 30+ points to be scored and were blown out of all of them. Heck, who couldn't do that!
How about an actual name insead of a blanket statement that anyone can suck that bad. An actual person not currently employed or on the Chiefs coaching staff now. My points is there actually a person available as an interim until the end of the season instead of just any Joe on the street. .
drstandley31
10-23-2012, 12:18 AM
How about an actual name insead of a blanket statement that anyone can suck that bad. An actual person not currently employed or on the Chiefs coaching staff now. My points is there actually a person available as an interim until the end of the season instead of just any Joe on the street. .
No, there's not! Great point. But I suppose there wasn't someone there during the off season too was there? Now he's got both hats and can't do either job. So ok, you're right it was a blanket statement, or blanket fact is more like it. We're stuck with coaching rejects so perhaps when the time is right for SP and you, we could look around and find some fresh talent. Romeo sucked in Cleveland, sucked here as DC, sucking as HC/DC, but let's just give him some more time. great.
No, there's not! Great point. But I suppose there wasn't someone there during the off season too was there? Now he's got both hats and can't do either job. So ok, you're right it was a blanket statement, or blanket fact is more like it. We're stuck with coaching rejects so perhaps when the time is right for SP and you, we could look around and find some fresh talent. Romeo sucked in Cleveland, sucked here as DC, sucking as HC/DC, but let's just give him some more time. great.
What you are suggesting is to screw this team next year as well. This season is a loss and we just have to ride it out. The best choice to replace RC is most likely under contract right now on a another team and I am not sure what team will give permission to take him away during the season. Maybe in the last two weeks, but not now... So replacing any coach on this roster now has to be from within, or a candidate that probably already sucks or they would be under contract. I highly doubt the Chiefs could will hire any viable candidate of the street as they could lose their job by the end of the season if Pioli is canned so they won't come out of retirement for this. Not now...
Carolina did the right thing and fired their GM after their 1-5 start.
chiefnut
10-23-2012, 10:09 AM
after the season how about romeo as our DC, a new GM and a new head coach....of course the head coach would choose his own staff. we won't find available people until after the season. we are not allowed to speak to anyone currently under contract, and its hard to get a former coach turned commentator after he's been out for more than 2 years. face it we are stuck w/this till after the season. time to start thinking do we want geno smith, collin kline, matt barkely, etc....w/our first pik.
after the season how about romeo as our DC, a new GM and a new head coach....of course the head coach would choose his own staff. we won't find available people until after the season. we are not allowed to speak to anyone currently under contract, and its hard to get a former coach turned commentator after he's been out for more than 2 years. face it we are stuck w/this till after the season. time to start thinking do we want geno smith, collin kline, matt barkely, etc....w/our first pik.
Kline, Really? We might as well go after Tim Tebow. Another running back who can throw when guys are wide open.
drstandley31
10-23-2012, 07:39 PM
What you are suggesting is to screw this team next year as well. This season is a loss and we just have to ride it out. The best choice to replace RC is most likely under contract right now on a another team and I am not sure what team will give permission to take him away during the season. Maybe in the last two weeks, but not now... So replacing any coach on this roster now has to be from within, or a candidate that probably already sucks or they would be under contract. I highly doubt the Chiefs could will hire any viable candidate of the street as they could lose their job by the end of the season if Pioli is canned so they won't come out of retirement for this. Not now...
Dump RC. Put in Zorn as a temp. Promote one of the D coaches as temp DC. Season's already screwed. Next season can be saved if you start now. Football management is not my career, as I assume it's not yours either, but I'd bet most organizations have deep records on who's available around the league, who's on the raise in the coaching ranks. I'd be scouting coaches, as I bet they do. Or let this ride out and plan the dumping at the end of the season, but I wouldn't let my team think that this kind of performance is acceptable, and they'd see that by some action being taken. Why do you think this screws next year too? I don't get that.
drstandley31
10-23-2012, 07:39 PM
The Eagles are in first place and have the stones to fire their dc. We have the talent coaches aren't getting it done. Why are we such wimps come on one arrowhead shake things up we are one and five.
Now that I agree with!
2010chiefs
10-23-2012, 08:42 PM
What do you guys think about Hue Jackson. At least as an Offense Coordinator. With him the Raiders offense finished fourth in the AFC and sixth in the NFL in scoring (25.6 points per game). In his first and only year as head coach he finished 8-8. That's not bad for 1 year.
brdempsey69
10-23-2012, 08:51 PM
What do you guys think about Hue Jackson. At least as an Offense Coordinator. With him the Raiders offense finished fourth in the AFC and sixth in the NFL in scoring (25.6 points per game). In his first and only year as head coach he finished 8-8. That's not bad for 1 year.
I'll take him as an OC in a heartbeat !!
2010chiefs
10-23-2012, 09:02 PM
Me too. I was hoping they would have looked at him this year and instead was shocked to hear they hired Daboll. Jackson and RC as DC would be great!
chiefnut
10-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Kline, Really? We might as well go after Tim Tebow. Another running back who can throw when guys are wide open.
I would have said the same thing , untill i saw him slice and dice WVU. his throws were dead on accurate while geno smith suffered from poor and unimaginative play calling. and yes his receivers wer wide open yet he still hit them in stride 40yds downfield, across the middle and corner endzone faDES. i think he deserves a closer look. we still have lots of time to debate.
fairladyZ
10-23-2012, 11:02 PM
i'm all in on barkley unless someone else pops up. Klein looked good but heard to many bad things. Geno i want no part of.
Dump RC. Put in Zorn as a temp. Promote one of the D coaches as temp DC. Season's already screwed. Next season can be saved if you start now. Football management is not my career, as I assume it's not yours either, but I'd bet most organizations have deep records on who's available around the league, who's on the raise in the coaching ranks. I'd be scouting coaches, as I bet they do. Or let this ride out and plan the dumping at the end of the season, but I wouldn't let my team think that this kind of performance is acceptable, and they'd see that by some action being taken. Why do you think this screws next year too? I don't get that.
Who are you promoting to DC from within the ranks that has actually called plays. The Chiefs cant start now until those DEEP records on who is available is actually available. They are most likely under contract to work for the current season. I don't know what team will grant the Chiefs access to talk to their employees this early in the season when that person would most likley be very important to their season.
If they are not under contract they are either a high profile person working on TV, or somene not worth it. In any way, None of those people will come here until they know if Pioli is staying or going because there is to much risk taking a position if a new GM comes in and brings in his own guys.
I get it, you hate the way things are so bad that you Want to Kill it all now but unless Clark Hunt has everything planned out right now. He can not just Tank the season by putting anyone in there to completely change the way things are run without screwing the season ticket holder who paid to watch this team play.
I would have said the same thing , untill i saw him slice and dice WVU. his throws were dead on accurate while geno smith suffered from poor and unimaginative play calling. and yes his receivers wer wide open yet he still hit them in stride 40yds downfield, across the middle and corner endzone faDES. i think he deserves a closer look. we still have lots of time to debate.
The same WVU team that had to score 70 points because Baylor racked up 63 points on them. West Virginia's defense is horrific. I saw a lot of wide open receivers and a lot of time to throw the ball.
Kline can throw as can Tebow, but they usually don't throw it if the guy is slightly covered making most attempts very high percentages and if not there they will run instead.
I could be wrong, but Kline is not your typical NFL QB.
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