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Ryfo18
01-16-2013, 05:27 PM
I've seen a lot of people question Geno Smith's character for flashing a gang sign at heckling fans. Here we have Te'o who led the whole nation on believing that he really lost his girlfriend to cancer. What a dirtbag.


Manti Te'o's Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football Season, Is A Hoax (http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax)

swochief
01-16-2013, 05:40 PM
What a douchebag.
Bama showed he's not a top ten/twenty pick anyway.



Roll Tide and Boomer Sooner. Yeah i know , OU was over rated this year and they will be until Stoops gets both lines fixed and the linebackers too.

Ryfo18
01-16-2013, 05:45 PM
What a douchebag.
Bama showed he's not a top ten/twenty pick anyway.



Roll Tide and Boomer Sooner. Yeah i know , OU was over rated this year and they will be until Stoops gets both lines fixed and the linebackers too.

Seems like an elaborate story to make the Heisman voters sympathize with you.

swochief
01-16-2013, 05:52 PM
Maybe. Its pathetic.
WTF was he thinkin ?:bash:

Three7s
01-16-2013, 05:55 PM
I've seen a lot of people question Geno Smith's character for flashing a gang sign at heckling fans. Here we have Te'o who led the whole nation on believing that he really lost his girlfriend to cancer. What a dirtbag.


Manti Te'o's Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football Season, Is A Hoax (http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax)
Like I've said before, EVERYONE has done something they aren't proud of. That's why I think it's silly to harp on something over and over about it when it's done and over. This goes for Smith and Te'o. Now, if they continue screwing up, then that's just the way they are.

jap1
01-16-2013, 06:36 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if when they start digging, they find out he had an agent who came up with this plan. Which also means more backlash from NCAA.

Good news, if this really was a hoax by him, maybe he drops into the second round? I wouldn't mind taking him in the second and letting Gibbs coach him up a little and teach him some discipline.

nigeriannightmare
01-16-2013, 07:09 PM
Heartbreak. Few heroes left man. Simply heartbreak. That SI article sealed it for me and talk about ****ty journalism.

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 07:41 PM
Like I've said before, EVERYONE has done something they aren't proud of. That's why I think it's silly to harp on something over and over about it when it's done and over. This goes for Smith and Te'o. Now, if they continue screwing up, then that's just the way they are.


I agree completely

I find it funny that some who talked about rushing to judgement with Geno are now rushing to judgement. There are reports that Teo didn't no that she wasn't real. Lets wait to see how it plays out and what excatly happened before we judge.

texaschief
01-16-2013, 07:43 PM
Have y'all actually heard the responses from Notre Dame and Te'o? He didn't lie about the relationship... he was conned into a hoax. I feel sorry for the guy. Ever seen the movie "Catfish" or the TV series on MTV? If you haven't watch it. People fall in love every day on the internet and over the phone. I don't think this is a stain on him at all. It's just really ****ty that there are people out there that do these kinds of things to other people.

Do yourself a favor and actually figure out wtf you're talking about before trying to trash someone... it just makes yourself look idiotic and quite frankly, like an *******.

jap1
01-16-2013, 07:56 PM
Have y'all actually heard the responses from Notre Dame and Te'o? He didn't lie about the relationship... he was conned into a hoax. I feel sorry for the guy. Ever seen the movie "Catfish" or the TV series on MTV? If you haven't watch it. People fall in love every day on the internet and over the phone. I don't think this is a stain on him at all. It's just really ****ty that there are people out there that do these kinds of things to other people.

Do yourself a favor and actually figure out wtf you're talking about before trying to trash someone... it just makes yourself look idiotic and quite frankly, like an *******.

I'm also waiting to see what the outcome of this was, but i find it hard to see a scenario where at some point he didn't make the decision to lie about it to the media and was sticking to the lie. Maybe he was blackmailed (which personally makes me question how tough mentally he is), maybe he was in on it.

Either way, I think it drops his draft value. The question will be whether it drops him to the second round. If so, I would be looking strongly at him in the 2nd, depending on what we do in the first.

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 08:03 PM
I like how most on here question Geno's character while praising Te'o. Te'o turns out to be a two faced liar.

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 08:18 PM
I like how most on here question Geno's character while praising Te'o. Te'o turns out to be a two faced liar.

I knew you and Ryfo would love this. But you're being unfair to Teo just like some were being unfair to Geno who I defended during the gang signs thing. Right now we have one report saying Teo was a part of this one saying he didn't know about this. Unless you are willing to accept the others criticisms of Geno's actions then don't jump on this before the full story is told. I will tell you and Ryfo the same thing I told those jumping on Geno DON'T RUSH TO JUDGEMENT on a guy based on 1 thing.

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 08:25 PM
I knew you and Ryfo would love this. But you're being unfair to Teo just like some were being unfair to Geno who I defended during the gang signs thing. Right now we have one report saying Teo was a part of this one saying he didn't know about this. Unless you are willing to accept the others criticisms of Geno's actions then don't jump on this before the full story is told. I will tell you and Ryfo the same thing I told those jumping on Geno DON'T RUSH TO JUDGEMENT on a guy based on 1 thing.


I don't know anything about gang signs. Te'o looks like he lied about his DEAD GIRLFRIEND, I don't even know what to say about that. That is about as low as you can go.

The biggest difference here is that everyone praised Te'o's moral ethics, that was one of the bigger reasons he could be a top pick, and then we hear something like this. It's disgraceful.

N TX Dave
01-16-2013, 08:26 PM
My big problem with it all is just when did it become okay for the media to not verify their stories? It is so bad that if one person says it to a media person it is taken as fact good or bad.

What I am talking about when the story first broke did anyone bother to check out anything in the story and now that it is being called a hoax have any of the media bothered to check anything out about it or are they just taking what someone says and running with it?

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 08:28 PM
My big problem with it all is just when did it become okay for the media to not verify their stories? It is so bad that if one person says it to a media person it is taken as fact good or bad.

What I am talking about when the story first broke did anyone bother to check out anything in the story and now that it is being called a hoax have any of the media bothered to check anything out about it or are they just taking what someone says and running with it?


You're in denial.

Personally, I dont care about his ethics, I never wanted him because I don't think he will be anything special on the football field.

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 08:33 PM
I don't know anything about gang signs. Te'o looks like he lied about his DEAD GIRLFRIEND, I don't even know what to say about that. That is about as low as you can go.

The biggest difference here is that everyone praised Te'o's moral ethics, that was one of the bigger reasons he could be a top pick, and then we hear something like this. It's disgraceful.

You ignore the report that says he didn't no she wasn't real because they never met in person. you just rush to say look at this Geno was filmed throwing out a gang sign so are you ok with people judgeing him based on that?

This news about Teo just came out. There is a fair amount of times that the first reports are not 100% true. Be fair and let it play out. Is that to much to ask.

If true and that's a IF still then it doesn't speak highly of Teo but like I said with Geno lets not judge a guy based on 1 thing.

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 08:36 PM
You ignore the report that says he didn't no she wasn't real because they never met in person. you just rush to say look at this Geno was filmed throwing out a gang sign so are you ok with people judgeing him based on that?

This news about Teo just came out. There is a fair amount of times that the first reports are not 100% true. Be fair and let it play out. Is that to much to ask.

If true and that's a IF still then it doesn't speak highly of Teo but like I said with Geno lets not judge a guy based on 1 thing.


He didnt know she wasnt real because they had never met in person? So how does that make her his girlfriend and why does that give him the right to say "My girlfriend died."

Either way you look at it he was caught lying.

And it really doesn't matter to me, I did not want him anyway.

N TX Dave
01-16-2013, 08:36 PM
You're in denial.

Personally, I dont care about his ethics, I never wanted him because I don't think he will be anything special on the football field.

I said nothing about him. I never said I wanted him, even a month ago. I was talking about the media period.

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 08:37 PM
I said nothing about him. I never said I wanted him, even a month ago. I was talking about the media period.




I trust the media for the most part, unless it's dan rather reporting.

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 08:39 PM
He didnt know she wasnt real because they had never met in person? So how does that make her his girlfriend and why does that give him the right to say "My girlfriend died."

Either way you look at it he was caught lying.

And it really doesn't matter to me, I did not want him anyway.

We live in a age where there are thousands of online relationships. There are real couples out there right now that have never met in person. There are some wackos out there who claim to be people there not. Someone might have done that to Teo and he didn't no it then he was notified by a "family member" probley the same wacko that pretended to be the girlfriend that she passed away. It happens in the internet world.

I'm not saying I think that's what happened but things like that do happen so it's a little early to judge what happened.

N TX Dave
01-16-2013, 08:44 PM
I trust the media for the most part, unless it's dan rather reporting.

I trust them about as far as I can throw them. They hear something from a cousin of a friend of a girl friend and just say unsubstantiated source just so they can say I got the scoop, they don't take the time to confirm the story.

texaschief
01-16-2013, 09:18 PM
I trust the media for the most part, unless it's dan rather reporting.

really.

swochief
01-16-2013, 09:18 PM
I trust them about as far as I can throw them. They hear something from a cousin of a friend of a girl friend and just say unsubstantiated source just so they can say I got the scoop, they don't take the time to confirm the story.


I agree whole heartedly w/ you on today's media.
Some have even admitted to doing such things just so they can "BREAK" the story first.

I did jump this about Teo a little quick. Didn't see the part about him saying he did not know she wasn't real. Will admit i should have checked it or waited. We will see.

But thats exactly why an online relationship is pure fantasy till you meet the person in person.

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 10:08 PM
Can we all just accept what happened instead of being conspiracy theorists?

He lied ok?

whackojacko58
01-16-2013, 10:10 PM
Wait geno is the only liar/thug... Wtf

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 10:22 PM
Can we all just accept what happened instead of being conspiracy theorists?

He lied ok?

Show me proof and I will be willing to. Some of us require proof not just one news report.

I take you back a number of years to the Duke Lacross case. Everyone thought those kids were guilty myself included it turned out it was a crooked D.A trying to make a name of himself. That happens sometime to. All we are saying is be fair let this play out. What's wrong with that.

KristofLaw
01-16-2013, 10:25 PM
My big problem with it all is just when did it become okay for the media to not verify their stories? It is so bad that if one person says it to a media person it is taken as fact good or bad.

What I am talking about when the story first broke did anyone bother to check out anything in the story and now that it is being called a hoax have any of the media bothered to check anything out about it or are they just taking what someone says and running with it?

No. From what I've seen everyone just went with it because it was a heart breaker paper seller. Those that did likely thought it would sell more, just go with it the others are. Differing dates, unchecked sources... still much to come out I would guess but yeah, pretty sick.

Personally, I think the media industry is a cut throat business. Thing could go many ways but if they need to white wash something somewhere they likely will.

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 10:29 PM
Show me proof and I will be willing to. Some of us require proof not just one news report.

I take you back a number of years to the Duke Lacross case. Everyone thought those kids were guilty myself included it turned out it was a crooked D.A trying to make a name of himself. That happens sometime to. All we are saying is be fair let this play out. What's wrong with that.


Because Te'o responded and said he was "duped." I don't understand how you can be duped about your girlfriend dying.

In an interview with ESPN for "College GameDay" on Oct. 2, Te'o said that Kekua's last words to him were "I love you." He also said that she was "the most beautiful girl I've ever met."

I mean really?

tornadospotter
01-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Let us get the tar boiling and pluck some chickens! Really, the story just came out, we do not know the facts. But let's all rush out and judge. I do not know the truth, but I would think that time will tell, so give time a chance to tell!

KristofLaw
01-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Because Te'o responded and said he was "duped." I don't understand how you can be duped about your girlfriend dying.

I guess we'll have to see what truths come out, I have seen a couple articles stating the parents had said they met in Hawaii... not sure where the lie is in that but it's either coming from someplace or she existed. The truth will come out eventually in one form or another.

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 10:35 PM
Because Te'o responded and said he was "duped." I don't understand how you can be duped about your girlfriend dying.

It's not hard to understand. He said they had an online relationship there are thousands of those going on right now. There are so many dating sites out there it's not funny. with those come wackjobs who think it's funny to play with peoples emotions. Sadly in this world those things happen. I can't tell you that's what happened to Teo but those things happen so I can't say it didn't. I heard on my Chicago Sports station there's talk of the FBI doing an investgation on this matter. All I'm saying is lets not rush to judgement whatever happened to being inncoent till proven guilty?

AkChief49
01-16-2013, 10:36 PM
Because Te'o responded and said he was "duped." I don't understand how you can be duped about your girlfriend dying.

In an interview with ESPN for "College GameDay" on Oct. 2, Te'o said that Kekua's last words to him were "I love you." He also said that she was "the most beautiful girl I've ever met."

I mean really?
Yeah this whole thing stinks to high heaven. On one hand, did he lie? On the other, if he did not lie you would have to question his naivety. You're going national about a girl you have never met? Hmmmmmm.

NJChiefs
01-16-2013, 11:33 PM
Sure. Let the facts be fully disclosed before rushing to judgement. But look at it this way. The BEST case scenario is that he is the most gullible fool to almost win a Heisman, who has an imaginary girlfriend that he still feels comfortable exploiting on her deathbed... yes exploiting for sympathy even though he has never met her. Would any one of you commenting ever even think about doing something so stupid? The WORST case scenario is that he is a conscience-less sociopath. Either way it doesn't look good for this sad young man.

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 11:38 PM
It's not hard to understand. He said they had an online relationship there are thousands of those going on right now. There are so many dating sites out there it's not funny. with those come wackjobs who think it's funny to play with peoples emotions. Sadly in this world those things happen. I can't tell you that's what happened to Teo but those things happen so I can't say it didn't. I heard on my Chicago Sports station there's talk of the FBI doing an investgation on this matter. All I'm saying is lets not rush to judgement whatever happened to being inncoent till proven guilty?


You live in Chicago? Really? Did you grow up in kc?

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 11:40 PM
Yeah this whole thing stinks to high heaven. On one hand, did he lie? On the other, if he did not lie you would have to question his naivety. You're going national about a girl you have never met? Hmmmmmm.


Exactly, we all know he knew the reality of the situation, if not at first then later and still did not come forward and reveal the truth.

Everyone has done things they regret, but this is awfully big, especially since his moral character was so highly regarded.

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 11:40 PM
You live in Chicago? Really? Did you grow up in kc?

I don't live in Chicago I live on the other side of Illinois. I was born in Southeast Missouri before the damn rams moved from LA and stuck with the Chiefs. I just get a chicago sports channel

MyManHali
01-16-2013, 11:41 PM
I don't live in Chicago I live on the other side of Illinois. I was born in Southeast Missouri before the damn rams moved from LA and stuck with the Chiefs. I just get a chicago sports channel


lol why not just go with the rams? For the most part the 2000's would of treated you pretty nice.

Even though I want the Chiefs to win a super bowl I want them to be exciting. The 2003 season was the most fun I have ever had in a season of football.

NJChiefs
01-16-2013, 11:47 PM
The 2003 season was the most fun I have ever had in a season of football.

Until, of course, the dreaded Sports Illustrated Cover Curse.

matthewschiefs
01-16-2013, 11:49 PM
lol why not just go with the rams? For the most part the 2000's would of treated you pretty nice.

Even though I want the Chiefs to win a super bowl I want them to be exciting. The 2003 season was the most fun I have ever had in a season of football.

If I had a nickel for everytime I have heard that. I stuck with my team i have always stuck with all my teams and trust me the Chiefs,Cleveland Indians are really tough to watch at times. It's amazing I'm not depressed lol

Ryfo18
01-17-2013, 12:14 AM
This stuff exists:

1.) His dad saying she came out to Hawaii to hang out w/ them.

"'They started out as just friends,' Brian Te'o said. 'Every once in a while, she would travel to Hawaii, and that happened to be the time Manti was home, so he would meet with her there. But within the last year, they became a couple. And we came to the realization that she could be our daughter-in-law. Sadly, it won't happen now.'"

2.) Te'o saying they met after a game in 2009.

3.) He dated this girl online for 3 years and never met her.

I don't know what the hell to believe. Either way, the guy carried on w/ this story months after her death.

Either way, they never skyped? They never met once in 3 years? She was in the hospital for a car wreck and he doesn't go see her? She is getting treatment for cancer and he never once visits his girlfriend? She dies and he doesn't go to the funeral? Really? What a terrible boyfriend.

I mean, you can be naive all you want, but this has shenanigans written all over it. And if he knew about it, then why the hell did he not come forward to clear his name about the whole thing. He was asked questions about it leading up to the BCS Championship. He didn't deny the relationship.

nigeriannightmare
01-17-2013, 12:44 AM
This whole thing makes me sick as i have been a manti supporter. With that said, this comin from the wife, with an Internet relationship he very well was duped. That show catfish exposes people who Internet date for upto 3 years 6 months being the shortest. And the scams people pull on the Internet is amazing.

Example one. Drop dead gorgeous blonde, and boys she was hot, was talking to this "guy" on line for 2 years they never met and when she shows up to this "guys" house she finds out its an 18 yr old high school girl who kinda looks like a dude. So my wife says its entirely possible for them to have not met or have seen each other. But it also says incredibly naive incredibly low self esteem. HE IS NOT THE PERSON I THOUGHT HE WAS! But I think he may not come out of this looking as bad as we think. Someone scammed him.

But still how he hell are you gonna get the front page of sports illustrated and no fact checking be done. The media has to be held accountable here. Otherwise what's the point

Ryfo18
01-17-2013, 12:49 AM
This whole thing makes me sick as i have been a manti supporter. With that said, this comin from the wife, with an Internet relationship he very well was duped. That show catfish exposes people who Internet date for upto 3 years 6 months being the shortest. And the scams people pull on the Internet is amazing.

Example one. Drop dead gorgeous blonde, and boys she was hot, was talking to this "guy" on line for 2 years they never met and when she shows up to this "guys" house she finds out its an 18 yr old high school girl who kinda looks like a dude. So my wife says its entirely possible for them to have not met or have seen each other. But it also says incredibly naive incredibly low self esteem. HE IS NOT THE PERSON I THOUGHT HE WAS! But I think he may not come out of this looking as bad as we think. Someone scammed him.

But still how he hell are you gonna get the front page of sports illustrated and no fact checking be done. The media has to be held accountable here. Otherwise what's the point

That Catfish show is nuts, and that's the first thing I thought of when I saw it.

Regardless of all this, I hope he was duped and didn't make up this elaborate story. The guy can still play. Who knows, maybe this drops him to where we can get him at a good price (though I imagine he's going to get ripped pretty hard in the locker room lol).

Ryfo18
01-17-2013, 12:54 AM
And now the fake dead girl is Tweeting. I'm telling you, this is the weirdest thing I have ever witnessed in my life. MIND. BLOWN.

https://twitter.com/LennayKay/status/291753867438325760

nigeriannightmare
01-17-2013, 01:25 AM
And now the fake dead girl is Tweeting. I'm telling you, this is the weirdest thing I have ever witnessed in my life. MIND. BLOWN.

https://twitter.com/LennayKay/status/291753867438325760

Dude I get it. If this guy has this little self esteem he is not the mental giant I made him out to be. But seriously sports illustrated journalists are this bad. This is bad bad journalism. They are supposed to get both sides of the story. Ya dig! F**k the media they all suck!

Ryfo18
01-17-2013, 01:37 AM
I'm reading this guy's timeline and it does in fact look like he was duped.

I honestly feel bad for the guy, especially watching that Catfish show. You can't trust anyone on the internet. I just wish the guy would have come out on his own and said it and not left it to some "bad journalists" as nigeriannightmare says get their hands on it.

https://twitter.com/justinrmegahan

matthewschiefs
01-17-2013, 01:58 AM
I'm reading this guy's timeline and it does in fact look like he was duped.

I honestly feel bad for the guy, especially watching that Catfish show. You can't trust anyone on the internet. I just wish the guy would have come out on his own and said it and not left it to some "bad journalists" as nigeriannightmare says get their hands on it.

https://twitter.com/justinrmegahan

It's the sad world we live in these days. People just do these things for nothing but to take sick enjoyment out of it. It's why I said to let this play out before judging. Anyone can be one of these sickos you me anyone.

I think that he would have been to embarrassed to come out and tell the world this. He thought that enough time had passed he might have gotten away with it and very few would know. That's his mistake

N TX Dave
01-17-2013, 02:44 AM
Dude I get it. If this guy has this little self esteem he is not the mental giant I made him out to be. But seriously sports illustrated journalists are this bad. This is bad bad journalism. They are supposed to get both sides of the story. Ya dig! F**k the media they all suck!

That is exactly what I said earlier in the thread the media does not check out stories anymore they just want to scoop everyone else with the story, if they verified their flukey sources then they would not get the scoop because some other reporter would not check out the source and beat him to the scoop. The media is nothing but a big joke anymore. I used to read "Globe", "Enquirer" and standing in the checkout line at the store and laugh, now to me all media is the same saying whatever they think will sell their rags and don't care if they are right or wrong.

MyManHali
01-17-2013, 03:03 AM
This whole thing makes me sick as i have been a manti supporter. With that said, this comin from the wife, with an Internet relationship he very well was duped. That show catfish exposes people who Internet date for upto 3 years 6 months being the shortest. And the scams people pull on the Internet is amazing.

Example one. Drop dead gorgeous blonde, and boys she was hot, was talking to this "guy" on line for 2 years they never met and when she shows up to this "guys" house she finds out its an 18 yr old high school girl who kinda looks like a dude. So my wife says its entirely possible for them to have not met or have seen each other. But it also says incredibly naive incredibly low self esteem. HE IS NOT THE PERSON I THOUGHT HE WAS! But I think he may not come out of this looking as bad as we think. Someone scammed him.

But still how he hell are you gonna get the front page of sports illustrated and no fact checking be done. The media has to be held accountable here. Otherwise what's the point


Don't feel bad. We were all believers in fat scott when we first hired him, and look how that turned out.

KristofLaw
01-17-2013, 03:45 AM
So first off we don't know how things went down and just who's accountable here at all. But someone is accountable for first a first identity theft of sorts on a non-existent person and then another theft of the poor woman's (assuming she has no hand in this) FaceBook and Instagram photos. Third he possibly caused a defamation of Manti Te'o had he no knowledgeable involvement in the sham.

These sound fairly possible to me at some point in the story but we really don't know who's involved yet. Speculation.

jap1
01-17-2013, 04:47 AM
So here is what they are reporting here in Oahu, Hawaii (Manti's home island). He had the online/phone GF that he had never met. In Sept, the same day that his grandma died, he got a text from the GF's cellphone saying it was her brother and telling him she was dead.

On Dec 6th he got a call from the GF telling him she was alive and it was all a hoax.

On dec 28th he informed ND and they started an investigation.

So, according to this he knew about the hoax and eventually told the "authorities" which for a college football player would be the coaches.

So two possibilities: either he was gullible and overly trusting, which is VERY plausible for Hawaiians who rarely ever think people would intentionally do bad things, especially from the small Mormon community he came from. This is coming from someone who grew up in SoCal and has lived in Hawaii for 2 years and has many local friends who literally don't understand things like racism that occurs on the mainland.
The other possibility is that this is a very calculated (mind you this "started" 3 years ago) and manipulative story.

chiefnut
01-17-2013, 01:54 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if when they start digging, they find out he had an agent who came up with this plan. Which also means more backlash from NCAA.

Good news, if this really was a hoax by him, maybe he drops into the second round? I wouldn't mind taking him in the second and letting Gibbs coach him up a little and teach him some discipline.


NCAA has no jurisdiction and will do nothing, they would have nothing to gain by action so they will do nothing

MyManHali
01-17-2013, 02:35 PM
This would be a good story on that show Unsolved Mysteries.

doobs_05
01-17-2013, 03:38 PM
Tebow cried, LSU Tried, Te'o Lied, his fake girlfriend died, ROLL TIDE!!

sorry i saw that somewhere and could not stop laughing.

Chiefster
01-17-2013, 10:28 PM
Tebow cried, LSU Tried, Te'o Lied, his fake girlfriend died, ROLL TIDE!!

sorry i saw that somewhere and could not stop laughing.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

rbedgood
01-23-2013, 12:25 AM
Who cares if he lied or not? Seriously we're talking about an NFL linebacker...you have felons, thugs, jerks and worse in that group that have been all-pros and hall of famers. If the worse thing he does is lie about a girlfriend who apparently didn't exist then who cares. For linebacker all that really matters is his speed, tackling ability, toughness and willingness to follow directions. If he was smart, or a great leader that's a plus, but if you have a safety or other defensive player that can be the on field general, then his leadership ability (or lack thereof) is not relevant.

I'll end this rant with just one name... Lawrence Taylor.

Chiefster
01-23-2013, 02:06 PM
Who cares if he lied or not? Seriously we're talking about an NFL linebacker...you have felons, thugs, jerks and worse in that group that have been all-pros and hall of famers. If the worse thing he does is lie about a girlfriend who apparently didn't exist then who cares. For linebacker all that really matters is his speed, tackling ability, toughness and willingness to follow directions. If he was smart, or a great leader that's a plus, but if you have a safety or other defensive player that can be the on field general, then his leadership ability (or lack thereof) is not relevant.

I'll end this rant with just one name... Lawrence Taylor.

Aptly put! There are much worse things he certainly could have done. To my knowledge lying about a fictional girlfriend is not against the law. One can argue that it speaks to character issues but given the circumstances even that is a weak argument, it isn't like he's lied about doping. It is all ado about nothing.