Game 1 toughts

[matthewschiefs]

The good
The defense whats not to like. One late game drive when the game has been long over doesn't mean much. This defense was great today. Much better then what they were a year ago

the offense they got the ball in the endzone when they were in the redzone. That's something they didn't do much last year. Time and time again they settled for 3. Today they did a great job of getting the ball in the endzone and getting 6

The not so good

Offense has to move the ball more. The WRs need to step up. Bowe is a far better WR then what we saw today. There were times that they seemed to be looking to try to go to a WR but no one got open and Smith had to make something happen with his legs. The offense has to be better against better teams they just didn't move the ball much at all. They will grow as time goes on and the players get more time in the offense but they have to be better then they were in week 1 when it comes to moving the football

[Lord-Chiefy]

I agree 109% .. we will develop . 2nd half offense worried me. Or it was coaching . Either way not happy.

[brdempsey69]

Spot on, Matt. It's great that the Offense cashed in when they had the opportunities, but watching them continually stall in the 2nd half is unacceptable, as they aren't always going to have the luxury of a 3 TD lead. There's still a lot of room for improvement & things are going to get much tougher in the coming weeks.

[#58ChiefsFan]

The offensive playcalling in the second half turned very vanilla, I have a feeling Reid was doing that to keep the playbook from the cowboys and the league as long as possible. Up 3 scores at half and jax showing no ability to provide any offensive production why not. We have an advantage at this point because of the limited tape for teams to study. I'm not overly concerned with it after they moved the ball effectively in the first half, Dallas should be a much better test of what we really have.

[brdempsey69]

The offensive playcalling in the second half turned very vanilla, I have a feeling Reid was doing that to keep the playbook from the cowboys and the league as long as possible. Up 3 scores at half and jax showing no ability to provide any offensive production why not. We have an advantage at this point because of the limited tape for teams to study. I'm not overly concerned with it after they moved the ball effectively in the first half, Dallas should be a much better test of what we really have.

Good point. And the Chiefs will be at home next week so their Offense won't have to deal with the opposing teams crowd.

[mcclusterfan1982]

Good first win against one of the worse teams in the NFL. I admit, I about fell asleep second half, but, still good win. Do not expect our wins this year to be pretty. Our focus is keeping turnovers on our side down and getting some help out of the defense and special teams, while letting Jamaal Charles, Dexter McCluster, some of our Tight Ends and occasionally our highly-paid receiver Bowe getting in on some action. Wins are wins in this league. I am extremely excited about our year this year!!!

[brdempsey69]

Until proven wrong, I still think they have to get Hemingway on the field and throw more passes his way. All he does is get open and catch the ball. Go back and look at the replay of his TD and take notice of the great adjustment he makes to come down with that football.

[Lewis_Chiefs]

Nice to be on the right end of a blowout for a change. Although I can't get carried away with beating Jacksonville and that awful offence.

[Eydugstr]

Good game. The good things I saw...Dontari Poe, Hemingway, Avery, JC, DJ, Houston...heck even Tyson Jackson got sack. Davis and Gray look like they're willing to battle for some tough yards, and made our offense look better in the process.

The not-so-good...Our secondary getting completely out of position at times. If Jacksonville's recievers had been any better, the score would've been much closer. Our recievers made plays when it counted, but there were also a lot of times when they dropped passes. When we start playing better teams, they'll exploit both of those problems.

Looking forward to next game. Dallas will be another "test" for us, see where we stand. We know we can dominate a bad team (Something good teams should be able to do), but does KC have what it takes to dominate a better one? Reid seems to go through a process of "See what's broken, then fix what's broken"...This is giving me hope for the future.

[kcvet]

the Jags brought a knife to a gun fight. just target practice for our D

[brdempsey69]

Kind of ironic about the Fisher versus Joeckel talk before the game and that Fisher was solid, while Joeckel struggled. Somebody elsewhere said that Pioli would have taken Joeckel over Fisher. No, he wouldn't have. He wouldn't have taken either. Pioli was too stupid and pigheaded and lilly-livered to take an O-Lineman high in the draft -- hence, why he's no longer a GM and won't ever be a GM again for anybody.

Glad the Chiefs got a real GM in place now. Nobody can rightfully argue that John Dorsey put forth more effort to improve the Chiefs this past off-season than Pioli did in four years as the GM.

[Chiefster]

Kind of ironic about the Fisher versus Joeckel talk before the game and that Fisher was solid, while Joeckel struggled. Somebody elsewhere said that Pioli would have taken Joeckel over Fisher. No, he wouldn't have. He wouldn't have taken either. Pioli was too stupid and pigheaded and lilly-livered to take an O-Lineman high in the draft -- hence, why he's no longer a GM and won't ever be a GM again for anybody.

Glad the Chiefs got a real GM in place now. Nobody can rightfully argue that John Dorsey put forth more effort to improve the Chiefs this past off-season than Pioli did in four years as the GM.

Do you mean: "Nobody can rightfully argue that John Dorsey [didn't] put forth more effort to improve the Chiefs this past off-season than Pioli did in four years as the GM"???

[Chiefster]

First game of the season I fully expect that there would be things we'll need to improve upon, but am ecstatic with the win!

[brdempsey69]

Do you mean: "Nobody can rightfully argue that John Dorsey [didn't] put forth more effort to improve the Chiefs this past off-season than Pioli did in four years as the GM"???

Allow me to rephrase:

Nobody can rightfully argue the fact that John Dorsey put forth more effort to improve the Chiefs this past off-season than Pioli did in four years as the GM

[Eydugstr]

Allow me to rephrase:

Nobody can rightfully argue the fact that John Dorsey put forth more effort to improve the Chiefs this past off-season than Pioli did in four years as the GM

I'd argue Reid and Dorsey got more accomplished in the first thirty days as HC/GM than Pioli & Co. did in four years. Exhibit A: Brian Daboll. Prosecution rests.

[brdempsey69]

I'd argue Reid and Dorsey got more accomplished in the first thirty days as HC/GM than Pioli & Co. did in four years. Exhibit A: Brian Daboll. Prosecution rests.

LOL, yeah, a very good exhibit at that.

But let's compare what apples to apples here -- specifically the players brought in by each GM in his 1st year in KC, as far as FA's, trades, and draft picks.

PIOLI:

Pioli trades a 2nd round pick for Cassel and Mike Vrabel. No veteran FA's that were worth two cents were signed. He drafts Tyson Jackson and gets lucky with Succop, but as for the rest of his draft picks in that 2009 draft, anybody could easily see that the rest of those guys were going to be out of NFL in a short time & probably delivering pizza to your doorstep. 5 of 7 picks wasted. No rookie FA's worth squat. And that was it. And let us not forget cutting Pollard and getting nothing in return. Almost next to nothing to try to make the Chiefs better.

DORSEY :

Dorsey trades a pair of 2nd rounders ( and until proven wrong, I do believe the Chiefs will be better than 8-8 and sending a 2nd round pick to the Niners in 2014 ) for Alex Smith, and while the cost was high, at least they get a QB that has won in the playoffs, isn't a turnover machine, and hasn't been handed a mega-contract like Cassel was.

Dorsey brings in veteran FA's Fasano, Avery, Schwartz, DeVito, Smith, Robinson, Demps, Jordan, Assulah, Zombo & Daniel -- not stars, but a solid core of good vets with 5 of them starting today and the others providing reasonably decent depth.

Dorsey made 8 picks in his first draft & came away with 7 promising players & with only 6th round draftee FB Braden Wilson getting cut, plus 3 rookie FA's with one of them being a possible QBOTF & possibly the best QB in the 2013 class when it's all said and done.

Plus, Dorsey realized that guys like Baldwin & Arenas weren't going anywhere with this team & traded them and at least got something in return ( FB Sherman and WR Jenkins ).

This is what a real GM ( Dorsey ) really looks like compared to a politician trying to play GM ( Pioli ).

[Chiefster]

Allow me to rephrase:

Nobody can rightfully argue the fact that John Dorsey put forth more effort to improve the Chiefs this past off-season than Pioli did in four years as the GM

Ahhh, gotha.

[mcclusterfan1982]

I didn't have a chance to read through the entire game thread, but did everyone notice Tyson Jackson losing his pants and his full buttocks exposed during the 3rd quarter of the game? http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2013/9/8/4708086/tyson-jackson-pantsed-chiefs-jaguars-brad-meester-butt

[Justin5772002]

Did anyone notice a catch by Bowe ran out of bounds in 2nd but no clock stoppage?

[brdempsey69]

I didn't have a chance to read through the entire game thread, but did everyone notice Tyson Jackson losing his pants and his full buttocks exposed during the 3rd quarter of the game? http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2013/9/8/4708086/tyson-jackson-pantsed-chiefs-jaguars-brad-meester-butt

I saw that. A Jags player jerked his pants down when Justin Houston sacked Gabbert. I'm just glad the ref didn't throw a flag and say "Unsportsman-like conduct, Defense, #94 , shooting the moon, 15-yard penalty, automatic first down".

[Eydugstr]

LOL, yeah, a very good exhibit at that.

But let's compare what apples to apples here -- specifically the players brought in by each GM in his 1st year in KC, as far as FA's, trades, and draft picks.

PIOLI:

Pioli trades a 2nd round pick for Cassel and Mike Vrabel. No veteran FA's that were worth two cents were signed. He drafts Tyson Jackson and gets lucky with Succop, but as for the rest of his draft picks in that 2009 draft, anybody could easily see that the rest of those guys were going to be out of NFL in a short time & probably delivering pizza to your doorstep. 5 of 7 picks wasted. No rookie FA's worth squat. And that was it. And let us not forget cutting Pollard and getting nothing in return. Almost next to nothing to try to make the Chiefs better.

DORSEY :

Dorsey trades a pair of 2nd rounders ( and until proven wrong, I do believe the Chiefs will be better than 8-8 and sending a 2nd round pick to the Niners in 2014 ) for Alex Smith, and while the cost was high, at least they get a QB that has won in the playoffs, isn't a turnover machine, and hasn't been handed a mega-contract like Cassel was.

Dorsey brings in veteran FA's Fasano, Avery, Schwartz, DeVito, Smith, Robinson, Demps, Jordan, Assulah, Zombo & Daniel -- not stars, but a solid core of good vets with 5 of them starting today and the others providing reasonably decent depth.

Dorsey made 8 picks in his first draft & came away with 7 promising players & with only 6th round draftee FB Braden Wilson getting cut, plus 3 rookie FA's with one of them being a possible QBOTF & possibly the best QB in the 2013 class when it's all said and done.

Plus, Dorsey realized that guys like Baldwin & Arenas weren't going anywhere with this team & traded them and at least got something in return ( FB Sherman and WR Jenkins ).

This is what a real GM ( Dorsey ) really looks like compared to a politician trying to play GM ( Pioli ).

Agreed on many, many points. Pioli played politics and took the words "Team Nepotism" to new levels. If it didn't come from New England, it went somewhere else.

I'd argue that part of the reason many of those draft picks were unsuccessful was mainly due to bad coaching. The second the Alex Magees and all the other already-long-forgotten draft picks hit the door, their career was already in jeopardy from not being in an environment that would make them better, or a least justify being a third, fourth or fifith round draft pick in the NFL. Pioli never had his coaching ducks in a row, the only possible exception being 2010.

[brdempsey69]

Agreed on many, many points. Pioli played politics and took the words "Team Nepotism" to new levels. If it didn't come from New England, it went somewhere else.

I'd argue that part of the reason many of those draft picks were unsuccessful was mainly due to bad coaching. The second the Alex Magees and all the other already-long-forgotten draft picks hit the door, their career was already in jeopardy from not being in an environment that would make them better, or a least justify being a third, fourth or fifith round draft pick in the NFL. Pioli never had his coaching ducks in a row, the only possible exception being 2010.

You nailed it right there regarding Pioli with the term "Team Nepotism". He thought that the "NE way" was going to work in KC and tried to sell everyone that he was the reason for NE's success when he wasn't. You knew that Pioli was history when it was announced that Clark Hunt was going after Andy Reid, because Reid would not put up with Pioli politics.

At the end of last year, I had posted on this forum for Clark Hunt to look up north to GB for a GM candidate because I believed a Ted Thompson disciple was what the Chiefs needed to get this thing turned around -- in other words, a real GM.

We saw the results on the football field, yesterday. This team won't be a laughing stock this year.

[KristofLaw]

Tied for first feels nice, gotta admit. Dexter McCluster looks like he'll be used more in closer games, I noticed that although he was seldom used in this preseasons games, he seems to have plays designed towards him as the first target. Our backup running game was alright, mind you it was against a defense playing against a lead. Our defense looks like it may be the ball-hawking, blitz-worrying defense we have been envisioning... on the other hand we played a young, somewhat hapless team, in their house mind you... take that as it is, it's still a W, on the road.

I'd like to add that we closed out the first half in style with that aggressive push-back and eventual sack by Dontari Poe (http://www.kansascity.com/2013/09/08/4467431/chiefs-poe-turns-in-dominant-performance.html) was a highlight, even had he not reached him Jackson would have and it was a three man press with all receivers going deep, awesome way to close out the half!

[ctchiefsfan]

While this wasn't the best win in Chiefs history it was a big one none-the-less. One thing you usually see is that the contenders in the NFL almost always beat the teams they should beat. The Jags are not a great team, we should have beaten them and we did.

The Red Zone play was also very encouraging. I can't remember the last time we got a TD every time we got inside the red zone.

The defense played great football. There were some times when Jag receivers got open and that would have been a problem if we were playing a better team than the Jags, but all-in-all the Defense did a great job. Best of all, there was no let up by the defense in the second half. With a 19 point lead in the second half a lot of defenses would have gotten squishy. Ours didn't. They didn't give the Jags offense a chance to breath until the last drive when nothing could have saved the Jags.

The offense was the one area of serious concern. There were no sustained drives and that is worrisome. But when they got their chances they put TDs on the board not FGs. They looked pretty futile in the second half, but I'm willing to believe that Reid figured the game was in the bag and decided there was no need to show Dallas and the rest of the league every bit of our offensive playbook. The other important plus on offense is that they didn't shoot themselves in the foot. We didn't put the ball on the ground and we didn't throw it to the other team. They pretty much played mistake-free football. That alone will win some games. Not screwing up is the first step in becoming a truly good football team.

My summary? Most importantly it's a WIN not a loss. We did a lot of things well and we didn't do anything really badly. Looks to me like we have taken a big step towards building a team that can be a contender. I'm not saying we are one, just that there has been a BIG turnaround in this team and we are certainly heading in the right direction.

GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mcclusterfan1982]

While this wasn't the best win in Chiefs history it was a big one none-the-less. One thing you usually see is that the contenders in the NFL almost always beat the teams they should beat. The Jags are not a great team, we should have beaten them and we did.

The Red Zone play was also very encouraging. I can't remember the last time we got a TD every time we got inside the red zone.

The defense played great football. There were some times when Jag receivers got open and that would have been a problem if we were playing a better team than the Jags, but all-in-all the Defense did a great job. Best of all, there was no let up by the defense in the second half. With a 19 point lead in the second half a lot of defenses would have gotten squishy. Ours didn't. They didn't give the Jags offense a chance to breath until the last drive when nothing could have saved the Jags.

The offense was the one area of serious concern. There were no sustained drives and that is worrisome. But when they got their chances they put TDs on the board not FGs. They looked pretty futile in the second half, but I'm willing to believe that Reid figured the game was in the bag and decided there was no need to show Dallas and the rest of the league every bit of our offensive playbook. The other important plus on offense is that they didn't shoot themselves in the foot. We didn't put the ball on the ground and we didn't throw it to the other team. They pretty much played mistake-free football. That alone will win some games. Not screwing up is the first step in becoming a truly good football team.

My summary? Most importantly it's a WIN not a loss. We did a lot of things well and we didn't do anything really badly. Looks to me like we have taken a big step towards building a team that can be a contender. I'm not saying we are one, just that there has been a BIG turnaround in this team and we are certainly heading in the right direction.

GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree for the most part. Although, realistically, Alex Smith did "throw an interception" in the first half, not technically or officially, but the Jacksonville cornerback should have caught one for an interception. But, that is probably being a little too picky on my part. This happens all the time every Sunday.

[brdempsey69]

While this wasn't the best win in Chiefs history it was a big one none-the-less. One thing you usually see is that the contenders in the NFL almost always beat the teams they should beat. The Jags are not a great team, we should have beaten them and we did.

The Red Zone play was also very encouraging. I can't remember the last time we got a TD every time we got inside the red zone.

The defense played great football. There were some times when Jag receivers got open and that would have been a problem if we were playing a better team than the Jags, but all-in-all the Defense did a great job. Best of all, there was no let up by the defense in the second half. With a 19 point lead in the second half a lot of defenses would have gotten squishy. Ours didn't. They didn't give the Jags offense a chance to breath until the last drive when nothing could have saved the Jags.

The offense was the one area of serious concern. There were no sustained drives and that is worrisome. But when they got their chances they put TDs on the board not FGs. They looked pretty futile in the second half, but I'm willing to believe that Reid figured the game was in the bag and decided there was no need to show Dallas and the rest of the league every bit of our offensive playbook. The other important plus on offense is that they didn't shoot themselves in the foot. We didn't put the ball on the ground and we didn't throw it to the other team. They pretty much played mistake-free football. That alone will win some games. Not screwing up is the first step in becoming a truly good football team.

My summary? Most importantly it's a WIN not a loss. We did a lot of things well and we didn't do anything really badly. Looks to me like we have taken a big step towards building a team that can be a contender. I'm not saying we are one, just that there has been a BIG turnaround in this team and we are certainly heading in the right direction.

GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You nailed it right there with what I quoted in bold and something that's not been mentioned on this board regarding Alex Smith, but the game commentators touched on. Alex Smith was the most efficient Red Zone QB in football last year and it carried over yesterday. That's the key -- get it into the Red Zone more often. Plus, the astronomical amount of 3 and outs that we saw last year was reduced significantly. I would have liked to have seen Davis and Gray get more carries in that 2nd half & it seemed like they were trying to throw the ball just a bit too much some times.

As for being a contender, until proven wrong, it's my belief that if they stay healthy & their O-Line progresses and becomes one of the leagues better units, then they will be a contender.

[ctchiefsfan]

I agree for the most part. Although, realistically, Alex Smith did "throw an interception" in the first half, not technically or officially, but the Jacksonville cornerback should have caught one for an interception. But, that is probably being a little too picky on my part. This happens all the time every Sunday.

You'll get no arguments from me. Alex Smith didn't look like Peyton or Eli Manning. That is for certain. There are quarterbacks that all by themselves can lift a team to a whole different level.....and I don't think Alex is one of them. But with the right team around him I think he can bring us back to respectability and maybe into contention. I want us to win a Superbowl as much as any Chiefs Fan does, but for right now I'll happily "settle" for being in the hunt for a playoff spot until the last week or two of the season. Once we get there, then it's about getting a couple of playoff wins. After that then I will expect that Lombardi Trophy. But after the last few years I just want to see some substantial improvement.

[N TX Dave]

You'll get no arguments from me. Alex Smith didn't look like Peyton or Eli Manning. That is for certain. There are quarterbacks that all by themselves can lift a team to a whole different level.....and I don't think Alex is one of them. But with the right team around him I think he can bring us back to respectability and maybe into contention. I want us to win a Superbowl as much as any Chiefs Fan does, but for right now I'll happily "settle" for being in the hunt for a playoff spot until the last week or two of the season. Once we get there, then it's about getting a couple of playoff wins. After that then I will expect that Lombardi Trophy. But after the last few years I just want to see some substantial improvement.

Eli is not a good comparison last night he threw 3 ints. I know on most days he doesn't but to me Eli should not be in same class as Peyton.

[ctchiefsfan]

You nailed it right there with what I quoted in bold and something that's not been mentioned on this board regarding Alex Smith, but the game commentators touched on. Alex Smith was the most efficient Red Zone QB in football last year and it carried over yesterday. That's the key -- get it into the Red Zone more often. Plus, the astronomical amount of 3 and outs that we saw last year was reduced significantly. I would have liked to have seen Davis and Gray get more carries in that 2nd half & it seemed like they were trying to throw the ball just a bit too much some times.

As for being a contender, until proven wrong, it's my belief that if they stay healthy & their O-Line progresses and becomes one of the leagues better units, then they will be a contender.

Thanks. Being a successful football team is really about doing the basics right.

When you get inside the enemy 20 yard line, you score points and it better be TDs most of the time.

When you have the enemy in 3rd and long, you DON'T let them convert.

You don't throw interceptions.

You don't fumble the ball and when you do, you recover it.

You beat the crap out of the enemy's offensive line.

Your defensive line stands like a brick wall.

Do most of those things most of the time and you are going to win most of your games.

Jazz will win a lot of football games. Doing the "basics" right most of the time will win more.

If we can keep our current coaching/management team I think we will get back to where we want to be.

[Justin5772002]

How about a big shout out to our O-Line!!! What improvement since pre-season. Haven't seen anyone give them love yet they did great!

[Justin5772002]

Oh and to all the Alex haters out there, what about that 20+ yard downfield pass that was thrown perfectly just flat out dropped by Fasano? It was one of the first pass attempts of the game and would have gone for quite a few yards if not a TD Fasano was behind the whole defense at that point. That one pass made me think the rest of the game was going to be just fine

[Justin5772002]

Avery better step up more cause I'm seeing Hemingway replacing him soon great job for him also

[ctchiefsfan]

Eli is not a good comparison last night he threw 3 ints. I know on most days he doesn't but to me Eli should not be in same class as Peyton.

Agreed. I was referring to how Eli usually plays rather than to how he played last night. I'm fairly happy with Alex Smith, but if the Giants wanted to trade...........HAHAHAHA

[ctchiefsfan]

Agree with you on both points Justin. The O-line played a fine game and Hemingway looks better every time he plays. In all aspects this Chiefs team is looking VERY DIFFERENT from what we have seen for most of the last decade.

[KristofLaw]

Agreed. I was referring to how Eli usually plays rather than to how he played last night. I'm fairly happy with Alex Smith, but if the Giants wanted to trade...........HAHAHAHA

I actually like your point with Eli, the other night he didn't give up and almost pulled one out... in the long run I will always find him to be more clutch than Peyton, but my grudge with him (Peyton) is almost at an end as well.

That was strange how they both tossed out 7's... two of those Int's, well at least one was not on Eli, that sort of stuff happens a lot to him, and the other two who are most like him (Flacco & Romo), just my two cents tho'.

[doobs_05]

The good: We won

The Bad: It was the Jags

[ctchiefsfan]

I actually like your point with Eli, the other night he didn't give up and almost pulled one out... in the long run I will always find him to be more clutch than Peyton, but my grudge with him (Peyton) is almost at an end as well.

That was strange how they both tossed out 7's... two of those, well at least one was not on Eli, that sort of stuff happens a lot to him, and the other two who are most like him (Flacco & Romo), just my two cents tho'.

Y'know....I wanted Peyton as much as anyone. But in the end he would have been a "quick fix" much as Montana was. I honestly think we are on a better path right now. Reid and Dorsey are not trying for a quick run. They seem to be trying to build a team that can dominate for a decade rather than 2 or 3 years.

[Bike]

The Chiefs played a great game - not allowing the Jags a TD on their home court showed me our defense is gonna have to be contended with this season. Just one negative that will have to be fixed - we're gonna need to stretch the field to keep opposing secondaries honest - or else our offense could be in for a long season.

[ctchiefsfan]

The Chiefs played a great game - not allowing the Jags a TD on their home court showed me our defense is gonna have to be contended with this season. Just one negative that will have to be fixed - we're gonna need to stretch the field to keep opposing secondaries honest - or else our offense could be in for a long season.

Yup. Plenty of room for improvement. But our Chiefs have already shown a lot of improvement and I think we are going to see a LOT more.

[#58ChiefsFan]

Yup. Plenty of room for improvement. But our Chiefs have already shown a lot of improvement and I think we are going to see a LOT more.

100% agreed. This team has 29? new players, they have done one hell of a job so far and they will get better.

[Justin5772002]

I'd like to also point out that our 28 points that we put up this week only loses (pointwise) to 5 other nfl teams in week 1 and we did that in the first half of football with very little effort to keep running up the scoreboard

[ctchiefsfan]

Y'know....it was a GREAT start against a BAD team. But we did prove we could blow out a bad team. Haven't been able to do that since 2010. Our Chiefs are on track. Not for a SuperBowl. Not for an AFC Championship. But definately for a huge improvement. I believe in Reid and Dorsey. They are not quitters. They are not politicians. They are builders. And I honestly believe they are building a team we can be proud of.

[brdempsey69]

Y'know....it was a GREAT start against a BAD team. But we did prove we could blow out a bad team. Haven't been able to do that since 2010. Our Chiefs are on track. Not for a SuperBowl. Not for an AFC Championship. But definately for a huge improvement. I believe in Reid and Dorsey. They are not quitters. They are not politicians. They are builders. And I honestly believe they are building a team we can be proud of.

That's right. If Dorsey/Reid see something that's broken, they'll fix it. If they think any area of the team needs improvement come next off-season, they'll be going after players either in FA or the draft to try to bolster those areas. The did an excellent job this last off-season of improving every area of this team via players and coaches.

[ctchiefsfan]

That's right. If Dorsey/Reid see something that's broken, they'll fix it. If they think any area of the team needs improvement come next off-season, they'll be going after players either in FA or the draft to try to bolster those areas. The did an excellent job this last off-season of improving every area of this team via players and coaches.

Yup. These two are guys that EXPECT to win....not because they come from the Splats, but because they know it is their job to put together a team that can win on the field. They know what their job is. They know they can do it. And there is nothing either of them won't do to get their job done. These are not New England wizz kids. These are hard working overachievers. Neither of them thinks about "good enough". They think about being the best. And they are not going to let up until the Chiefs ARE the best! Best coach/management team we have had since the late '60s.

[brdempsey69]

Overall, this first win does provide hope & good reason for cautious optimism.

It's going to get a lot tougher in the coming weeks -- especially the next three foes being from the NFC East. Having Andy Reid might help against the Cowboys and Giants, but right now Reid's former team is taking the Redskins to the cleaners as I'm typing this, so that Thursday night game in Philly could be very tough. All three teams have good D-Lines, so the Chiefs O-Line will have to bring their A-Game to all three contests.