Needs....

[dbolan]

Still need a "break-out" Receiver or two. Need a burner to go down the field and a good slot guy.

I think those additions would be the finishing touches to make a legit SB run.

Yay or Nay?

[Frankenchief]

A burner who may separate only based on his speed is not enough. We have speed receivers (Avery? Dexter?), but they need to know how to separate by running their routs well. Instead of a "burner" we need an all around "separator."

[doobs_05]

and an o-line that can block, no use in having those wr's when your qb doesn't have time.

[matthewschiefs]

and an o-line that can block, no use in having those wr's when your qb doesn't have time.

THIS

I went over the game again. And watched the videos on kcchiefs.com on the game wrap up Mitch Holthus points out that the six sacks the Chiefs gave up came in the 2nd half. That's the biggest thing that hurt the offense in the 2nd half. The O line wasn't blocking anyone. It points to the Browns staff making an adjustment the Chiefs didn't see coming and couldn't put a stop to. The O line is the biggest need for the offense slightly more then a playmaking WR. But I don't see anyone trading O line so it's not going to be a move made this year. The guys they have now are just going to have to start doing the job.

[doobs_05]

THIS

I went over the game again. And watched the videos on kcchiefs.com on the game wrap up Mitch Holthus points out that the six sacks the Chiefs gave up came in the 2nd half. That's the biggest thing that hurt the offense in the 2nd half. The O line wasn't blocking anyone. It points to the Browns staff making an adjustment the Chiefs didn't see coming and couldn't put a stop to. The O line is the biggest need for the offense slightly more then a playmaking WR. But I don't see anyone trading O line so it's not going to be a move made this year. The guys they have now are just going to have to start doing the job.

But i bet their is time the line actually give smith time but the wr's just don't get open.

[matthewschiefs]

But i bet their is time the line actually give smith time but the wr's just don't get open.

True as well and there are times Alex holds on to the ball and just doesn't give the wrs a shot that he should. It's a team thing.But IMO the Offensive line has been the weakest link on the offense overall. They were actually good in the first half against Cleveland compared to what we have seen at times. The 2nd half they were murdered. And that played the biggest roles in the offense not getting it done in the 2nd half though there is also blame to go on every other part of the offense.

[Pro_Angler]

Let’s face it Bowe will never get the ball that he wants.Smith has already proven he wants to protect the ball. Bowe is a big guy thatcan go up and get balls (when wants to), he just doesn’t have the speed to keepgood separations. Hence he doesn’t get a lot of balls his way. That is whyAvery, Charles and DMC has been getting the balls...they create the space thatsmith wants to see... we just need speed and WR that will fight to get open...

[iratefan]

THIS

I went over the game again. And watched the videos on kcchiefs.com on the game wrap up Mitch Holthus points out that the six sacks the Chiefs gave up came in the 2nd half. That's the biggest thing that hurt the offense in the 2nd half. The O line wasn't blocking anyone. It points to the Browns staff making an adjustment the Chiefs didn't see coming and couldn't put a stop to. The O line is the biggest need for the offense slightly more then a playmaking WR. But I don't see anyone trading O line so it's not going to be a move made this year. The guys they have now are just going to have to start doing the job.



Ahhh... im glad that you have (finally) noticed ^^. Too many A-gap blitzes coming down the pipe to shut alex's vision down unimpeded. even more egregious than the end around outside blitzes burning albert/fisher around the back. The o-line is a 'young group' - but we need to see much larger strides of improvement, or else there has to be some sort of responsibility taken at the coaching level.

Something Chiefs offense hasnt had in quite some time in my recollection is a playmaker receiver. Matt Cassel made Dwayne Bowe look like a top receiver in 2010 because that was the only target he could hit and could trust to make a play. But Smith does not have that rapport or even that trust with Bowe to make those throws (Bowe has had some bad drops this season breaking drives on 3rd and manageable). Im not sure we'd even know what to do with a star receiver talent. we need someone that can 'just catch' whatever throw needs to be made. Arguably we have a decent threat in donnie avery, but any time he gets a step down the line that seems to be an automatic overthrow by Smith (quite possibly his worst throw in the arsenal).

Somehow I get the feeling the organization is first to understand just exactly the shortcomings in personnel moreso than anyone, and perhaps have the most reasonable level of expectations for what they hope to achieve. I dont think anyone in the organization has "superbowl" in their sights, they just want to make strides and build towads the future.

Its us the fans that are tired of making strides and want to see the unimaginable happen. We've seen some pretty dramatic changes in the offseason so its hard for us not to get worked up about the possibilities.

[doobs_05]

Ahhh... im glad that you have (finally) noticed ^^. .

Huh? Matt has been screaming about O-Line forawhile now

[rodu]

apparently our o-line is the youngest in the league

we could use a good TE, there is nothing special about either of ours, too bad we never got to see what Kelce could do

[jap1]

apparently our o-line is the youngest in the league

we could use a good TE, there is nothing special about either of ours, too bad we never got to see what Kelce could do

Im worried that Kelce may be Moeaki 2.0. I'm hoping he recovers fully and doesn't have any future problems. Kelce, Fasano and McGrath could be a really good TE group for a couple years, but I imagine if there is a good receiving TE available in the offseason, we would go after him.

[rodu]

Im worried that Kelce may be Moeaki 2.0. I'm hoping he recovers fully and doesn't have any future problems. Kelce, Fasano and McGrath could be a really good TE group for a couple years, but I imagine if there is a good receiving TE available in the offseason, we would go after him.

Anyone available via free agency?

[Frankenchief]

THIS

I went over the game again. And watched the videos on kcchiefs.com on the game wrap up Mitch Holthus points out that the six sacks the Chiefs gave up came in the 2nd half. That's the biggest thing that hurt the offense in the 2nd half. The O line wasn't blocking anyone. It points to the Browns staff making an adjustment the Chiefs didn't see coming and couldn't put a stop to. The O line is the biggest need for the offense slightly more then a playmaking WR. But I don't see anyone trading O line so it's not going to be a move made this year. The guys they have now are just going to have to start doing the job.I have a hard time wrapping my head around the 'lack of O-line talent' theory. Yes we have a rookie playing out of position, but not all the problems come from his side. At what point do we start pointing at O-line coach and maybe the OC?

[Frankenchief]

Arguably we have a decent threat in donnie avery, but any time he gets a step down the line that seems to be an automatic overthrow by Smith (quite possibly his worst throw in the arsenal). Donnie Avery to WR is Thomas Jones to RB, IMO. His best days seem to be behind him.

[Frankenchief]

Somehow I get the feeling the organization is first to understand just exactly the shortcomings in personnel moreso than anyone, and perhaps have the most reasonable level of expectations for what they hope to achieve. I dont think anyone in the organization has "superbowl" in their sights, they just want to make strides and build towads the future.
Actually this has been in my head for a few weeks now. I think we the fans are a bit guilty of drinking some self served Kool-Aide about our beloved Chiefs.

I haven't liked this Super Bowl talk that has been gaining steam here and on other Chiefs forums. Sets us up for a very probable painful crash into reality. The fact is we are not as good overall as our record and not as bad as last year's record. I really do not expect a Super Bowl run this year, but I'm excited about what is being built for next year. This year I'll be satisfied with somebody else winning the SB, as long as it's not Denver Mannings.

[Frankenchief]

Im worried that Kelce may be Moeaki 2.0. I'm hoping he recovers fully and doesn't have any future problems. Kelce, Fasano and McGrath could be a really good TE group for a couple years, but I imagine if there is a good receiving TE available in the offseason, we would go after him.
I don't get where this comes from! The guy has one untimely injury and all of a sudden he is another Moeaki!!!!

Moaki had a long list of college injuries. Kelce does not. This is a collision sport. People get injured occasionally.

[jap1]

I don't get where this comes from! The guy has one untimely injury and all of a sudden he is another Moeaki!!!!

Moaki had a long list of college injuries. Kelce does not. This is a collision sport. People get injured occasionally.


My bad. I thought Kelce missed a season in college due to injury. I looked it up and it was because of being suspended, not an injury.

[jap1]

Anyone available via free agency?

No one right now. There is talk that Washington is trying to trade Fred Davis, but will probably not find a taker. Rumor has it they will cut him if they can't trade him. If we picked him up off of waivers, I wouldn't mind it.

He comes with some risk. He is coming off an Achilles injury, and I don't know if he is as fast and athletic as he was before the injury. Also, he has decent hands, but I don't know what kind of blocker he is.

[rodu]

My bad. I thought Kelce missed a season in college due to injury. I looked it up and it was because of being suspended, not an injury.

he may not be a Moeaki, but being injured when he was for how long he was, he looses an important year of development, I don't think it would be smart for him to be plan A for starting TE until he's shown soemthing

[kcvet]

they need to get with it now. after the bye we seperate the men from boys.