Official Chiefs at Bills In-Game Discussion Thread--11/3

[TopekaRoy]

Kansas City Chiefs


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Buffalo Bills
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Sunday, November 3, Noon CDT
at
Ralph Wilson Stadium

Buffalo, New York

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[TopekaRoy]

Weather forecast: http://a.espncdn.com/i/weather/mobile/66.png 39 degrees, partly cloudy, 10% chance of rain or snow

Line: Chiefs -3.5, Over/Under: 40
Trends:
The Chiefs are 5-3 ATS.
The Chiefs are 3-0 ATS away.
The Chiefs are 4-3 ATS as the favorite.
The Chiefs are 2-0 ATS as an away favorite.

The Bills are 5-3 ATS.
The Bills are 4-0 ATS at home.
The Bills are 5-3 ATS as the underdog.
The Bills are 4-0 ATS as a home underdog.

Game Plans:
Chiefs:
The Chiefs trip to Buffalo is only their fourth road game of the season, and comes after a three-game home stand where they pushed their record to 8-0. In their winning efforts on the road against Jacksonville, Philadelphia and Tennessee, the Chiefs followed a similar script. They held leads entering the fourth quarter and then added points in the final period and won by 26, 10 and nine points. Those late performances were built on their defense. They'll need the same type of afternoon against the Bills if they expect to win game No. 9.

Bills:
The Bills will be severely handicapped if QB Thad Lewis can't play, which is amazing in and of itself given that Lewis has played only four NFL games, three with the Bills. If Lewis' ribs don't heal, Jeff Tuel or Matt Flynn will start, and the package of plays that offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett can call will likely be more streamlined, especially if it's Flynn.

As well as the Chiefs rush the passer (league-high 36 sacks), the Bills will try to rely on their ground game, and the key to that will be to not fall behind early. The Bills had this issue last week against New Orleans and abandoned the run game in the second half.

Defensively, the Bills will have to find a way to cope with Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles, who's having a great year. He's a dual threat as a runner and receiver, and the Bills have not been good at limiting big plays or stopping teams on third down. They have allowed 22 runs of at least 10 yards, and 27 passes of at least 20 yards, and their third-down rate is 38.8.

Notable Quotables:
Chiefs:
"I'm telling you that there's room to improve and I take that to heart. Those aren't empty words that I'm throwing at you. We have a ton of room to improve in all three phases. You have to make sure you go out to practice with that in mind. You get better at what you're doing then you get better at what you're not doing well and you make sure you keep improving." -- Chiefs head coach Andy Reid.

Browns:
"We're excited, I know it sounds crazy. People are going to go, 'What the hell is going on with this guy?' We've got a lot of work to do, we're going to get back, we're in the third quarter of our season. Kansas City is coming in to town, they're undefeated, we have a white out going on so the fans will be all pumped up. We've got to win this quarter and right now we're focused on beating Kansas City. I'm ready to go." -- Coach Doug Marrone on the excitement of starting the second half of the season despite a 3-5 record.

ESPN Game Preview (http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/nflpreview?gameId=331103002):

As the Kansas City Chiefs keep their strong start in perspective, the Buffalo Bills hope to turn things around by knocking off the NFL's only undefeated team.

The visiting Chiefs look go 9-0 for the first time in 10 years when they try to end their recent struggles against the Bills on Sunday.

The first team in league history to start 8-0 after owning the worst record the previous season -- 2-14 -- Kansas City hasn't won its first nine games since 2003. That year, it matched the franchise record of 13 wins before losing 38-31 to Indianapolis in the divisional round of the playoffs.

Though confident, this year's team won't read too much into its place in history.

"We've always been humble," safety Eric Berry said. "We're going to keep working because we know how hard these wins are to come by. We don't take these for granted."

Since the league expanded to a 16-game schedule in 1978, 15 teams have won their first eight games. Nine made the Super Bowl and eight won. These Chiefs, however, would rather focus on the present and let the future take care of itself.

"We love what's going on around here as far as winning," linebacker Tamba Hali said. "None of us have been in this position where this team is 8-0. To keep winning, to go 1-0 every week, I think we have a sense of urgency to keep getting wins."

Kansas City has won largely because of a defense that allows a league-low 12.3 points per game and has recorded an NFL-high 36 sacks -- nine more than Buffalo (3-5), which is second. The 98 points the Chiefs have yielded are the second fewest in team history through the first half of a non-strike affected season since the league went to 16 games in 1978.

Kansas City matched its season high for points allowed in a 23-17 victory over Cleveland last Sunday. It was Kansas City's third game and second in as many weeks to be decided six or fewer points.

"We're not trying to be the beauty queens. A win is a win," receiver Dexter McCluster said. "We know we're going to have to fight. This is the NFL."

The Chiefs expect to be seriously challenged by a Bills team that's won five of the last six meetings and both in the last two seasons by a combined 76-24. Buffalo, though, has dropped three of four and is dealing with a host of injuries as it tries to continue that dominance in the series.

One of the biggest injury issues is Thad Lewis' sore ribs, which could keep the QB on the sideline.

He was injured on the first play from scrimmage last week and is listed as doubtful. If Lewis is unable to play, the Bills will start either undrafted rookie Jeff Tuel or the recently signed Matt Flynn. Bills coach Doug Marrone said he would wait to decide who will start in that scenario but said Tuel received more reps at practice Friday.

Rookie quarterback EJ Manuel (knee) remains out and running back C.J. Spiller (ankle) could miss a second straight game. Receiver Stevie Johnson is dealing with a hip flexor but is hopeful he can go Sunday.

Running back Fred Jackson is dealing with a nagging injury but expects to play.

"(Injuries) can happen to any team," Johnson said.

"It probably is happening to every other team, but we're talking about it now and we've got to just get over it. There's nothing we can really control. We're out there and playing football and this is what happens when you play in this league."

Johnson had seven receptions for 72 yards and a touchdown in Sunday's 35-17 loss at New Orleans, and he's scored a TD in three straight against the Chiefs.

Despite the health issues and a defense that ranks 25th with 26.6 points per allowed game, the Bills are excited to get their crack at the team with the best record in the NFL.

"Guys are still confident," said Jackson, who has rushed for 331 yards and averaged 4.8 per carry in four games against Kansas City. "We've got a good opponent coming in this weekend that gives us an opportunity to go out and win against a team that's 8-0, give them the first loss of the season and try and build on that."

The Chiefs' Jamaal Charles ran for 376 yards and averaged 7.2 per carry in his previous three games against the Bills before being held to three yards on six attempts during a 35-17 loss at Buffalo last Sept. 16.

Charles, who averages a league-high 127.3 yards from scrimmage and is second with 635 rushing yards, expects to play despite leaving briefly last week to be treated for a bruised knee.

"It's a long season and I'll get banged up every week," he said.

[TopekaRoy]

Chiefs Stats Leaders:

Offense:
Passing:
Alex Smith
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169-286 for 1795 yds, 9 tds, 4 ints, QBR---82.1

Receiving:
Jamaal Charles
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41 rec, 383 yds, 2 tds
and
Donnie Avery
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24 rec, 374 yds, 1 td

Rushing:
Jamaal Charles
135 carries for 561 yds, 4.2 ypc, 6 td

Defense:
Tackles:
Derrick Johnson
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61 tackles (56 solo) 3.5 sacks

Sacks:
Justin Houston
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11 sacks
and Tamba Hali
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9sacks, 1 int

Interceptions:
Quentin Demps
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3 ints

Complete Team Stats (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/kan/stats/)

[TopekaRoy]

Bills Stats Leaders:
Offense:
Passing:
E.J. Manuel (Inactive)
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85-150 for 895 yds, 5 tds, 3 int, QBR---79.4

Receiving:
Stevie Johnson
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33 catches for 387 yds, 3 tds

Rushing:
Fred Jackson
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101 carries for 425 yds, 4.2 ypc, 6 tds



Defense:
Tackles:
Kiko Alonso
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43 tackles (38 solo), 1 sack, 4 ints

Sacks:
Mario Williams
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11 sacks

Interceptions:
Kiko Alonso
4 Int, 1 TD
Aaron Williams
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and Jim Leonard
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3 Ints each


Complete Team Stats (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/stats/)

[TopekaRoy]

Injury Reports

Bills:
Probable:
Fred Jackson (RB)-Knee
C.J. Spiller (RB)-Ankle
Mario Williams (DE)-Hip
Kyle Williams (DT)-Achilles
Steve Johnson (WR)-Hip
Manny Lawson (LB)-Hamstring
Kraig Urbik (G)-Knee
Marquise Goodwin (WR)-Elbow

Questionable:
Chris Hogan (WR)-Back

Doubtful:
Thaddeus Lewis (QB)-Ribs

Out:
E.J. Manuel (QB)-Knee

Status Unknown
Brandon Smith (CB)-?

Chiefs:
Probable:
Donnie Avery (WR)-Shoulder
Anthony Sherman (RB)-Knee
Ron Parker (CB)-Toe
Jamaal Charles (RB)-Knee
Dezman Moses (LB)-Toe
Anthony Fasano (TE)-Knee
Dwayne Bowe (WR)-Groin
Sean McGrath (TE)-Knee
Eric Fisher (T)-Knee
Kendrick Lewis (S)-Ankle

Out:
Mike Catapano (DE)-Ankle

[TopekaRoy]

The Kansas City Star didn't post a "scouting report" for today's game on their website. This is from the Buffalo News:

Scouting report (http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/scouting-report-by-jay-skurski-bills-need-run-game-to-excel-defense-must-get-to-smith-20131103) by Jay Skurski: Bills need run game to excel, defense must get to Smith

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The Bills' pass rush must get to Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith during today's game at
Ralph Wilson Stadium. (AP Photo/Colin E. Braley)

1. Run from the spread formation. With a big question mark staring them in the face at quarterback, it will be even more important for the Buffalo Bills to effectively run the ball today against the Kansas City Chiefs. The Bills are averaging 133.9 yards per game on the ground, which is good for seventh in the league. The Chiefs meanwhile, are allowing an average of 103.2 rushing yards per game, which is 10th best in the NFL. They are giving up an average of 4.7 yards per carry, however, which is tied for 28th in the league. According to Pro Football Focus, which charts every play of every NFL game, the Chiefs are allowing an average of 3.1 yards per carry from their base formation. When they go to sub packages, however, that number increases to more than 6 yards per carry. The Bills should try to spread the Chiefs’ defense out, then run with C.J. Spiller and Fred Jackson.

2. Keep them guessing. Another benefit of a strong run game is putting a team in favorable third-down situations. That’s necessary against a Kansas City defense that is allowing opposing offenses to convert third downs on plays of more than 4 yards just 14 percent of the time (9 of 66). Being in manageable third downs presents the threat of a run play, which should help to somewhat neutralize the strength of the Chiefs’ defense, which is the pass rush. Outside linebacker Justin Houston is tied with the Bills’ Mario Williams for second in the NFL with 11 sacks, while Houston’s counterpart, Tamba Hali, has nine. sacks, making up more than half of Kansas City’s NFL-high 36 sacks.

3. Welcome back, Manny Lawson. The Bills should get Manny Lawson back today after he missed last week’s game because of a hamstring injury. It’s good timing for a Buffalo defense that faces the challenge of figuring out a way to slow Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. He leads Kansas City in both rushing (635 yards) and receiving (383 yards), accounting for nearly 40 percent of the team’s offense. Charles’ 41 catches are the most of any running back in the NFL. Lawson and Kiko Alonso will have coverage responsibilities against Charles, and will need to wrap up.

4. No. 1 pick not looking like it. Chiefs right tackle Eric Fisher has not played particularly well in his rookie season after being the first overall pick in April’s draft. Fisher will have a tough matchup today against Williams. The Chiefs’ offensive line has given up 24 sacks. If the Bills can cover well on the outside, buying extra time for the pass rush, they should have some opportunities to get to Alex Smith.

5. Catch them looking. The Chiefs have said all the right things during the week about not looking past today’s game with the Bills to their upcoming bye week, then a Sunday night showdown against the Denver Broncos in Week 11. But it wouldn’t come as a shock if they came out flat this afternoon. The Bills need to jump on them early, and get the white-out crowd at The Ralph into the game.

Outlook: Kansas City doesn’t have a win on its schedule that grabs your attention. But the Chiefs’ defense is legit. They should be able to do enough against a Bills team down to Option C or D at quarterback.

Prediction: Chiefs 24, Bills 17

[Lewis_Chiefs]

4. No. 1 pick not looking like it. Chiefs right tackle Eric Fisher has not played particularly well in his rookie season after being the first overall pick in April’s draft. Fisher will have a tough matchup today against Williams. The Chiefs’ offensive line has given up 24 sacks. If the Bills can cover well on the outside, buying extra time for the pass rush, they should have some opportunities to get to Alex Smith.

That worries me a lot to be honest. Eric Fisher against one of the best pass rushers in the game.

[#58ChiefsFan]

9-0 that is all

[SloJimFizz]

Go Chiefs!!
Big game today.
A win wont shut the f'ing naysayers up,but 9-0 is 9-0.

[kcvet]

rook Jeff Tuel to start for Bill. we go 9-0

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[ctchiefsfan]

Almost time to BBQ up some buffalo!!!!!

[kcvet]

Almost time to BBQ up some buffalo!!!!!

you cook the ribs ill bring the sauce :yahoo:

[matthewschiefs]

Looking forward to seeing if the offense can get it together for the whole game. We saw them going well for a half last week need to put it together a whole game now. GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brdempsey69]

Looking forward to seeing if the offense can get it together for the whole game. We saw them going well for a half last week need to put it together a whole game now. GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1 The Offense needs to play for 4 QTR's this week.

[ctchiefsfan]

you cook the ribs ill bring the sauce :yahoo:

But who is bringing the beer? Nevermind.....I'll bring plenty!

[kcvet]

feature this. if we go 9-0 that guarantees a winning season

[Eydugstr]

feature this. if we go 9-0 that guarantees a winning season

9-0 would be great. Time to take care of business. If Tuel is truly that bad, the defense needs to prove it. Our O-line has got a big challenge today. If our TE's and WR's step it up today, Buffalo will be fighting an uphill battle on both sides of the ball.

[kcvet]

http://www.korkedbats.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Tuel-Time-2.jpg

[ctchiefsfan]

Need to shut down their running game early. Make Tuel try to win the game with his arm. If we do that our D will have a field day!!!!

[jap1]

+1 The Offense needs to play for 4 QTR's this week.

Ill be very impressed if they can be consistent for 4 quarters against this defense.

[brdempsey69]

Let's go Chiefs. Get out there and get after the Bills and let's get to 9-0.

[matthewschiefs]

Yet anther guy comes unblocked the O line sleeping on the job AGAIN

[iratefan]

lol @ buffao getting excited about punt returns with illegal blocks which clearly allow the breakout. lets see how this goes.

[iratefan]

this buffalo gameplan looks like the browns gameplan looks like the texans gameplan, and defensively ultimately looked like the oakland gameplan.

[ctchiefsfan]

Not liking the way this starting.

[brdempsey69]

It figures. Another backup QB looking like Superman.

[matthewschiefs]

Got lucky with the drop there

[ctchiefsfan]

STOP them here!!!!!

[matthewschiefs]

Can't have anther 3 and out here need to move the ball the Line is going to have to actually play this drive

[ctchiefsfan]

A drive with some points would set a good tone here.

[iratefan]

our oline ruins everything thats good about this team.

[iratefan]

alex smith isnt throwing to anything other than the right side....

[ctchiefsfan]

Need a first down here!

[iratefan]

-_- oline rape all day long

[ctchiefsfan]

DAMMIT need this 1st down!

[matthewschiefs]

once again Smith has no time even with a hold SMH

[jason1981]

Our oline is regressing each game.

[jason1981]

Alwo it seems the buf d line is doi g alot of acting like their getting held. Rudson look like he was pulled in to the dlineman.

[matthewschiefs]

Cooper jumped to early there

[iratefan]

holy christ are you serious?!

[matthewschiefs]

Way to easy

[jason1981]

Wow did he got burned

[iratefan]

kendrick lewis did not support the back of that pass at all. and this is the second game in a row that he has failed to support in coverage in big gains and this one cost us.

Who was playing safety when Lewis was injured? was it demps? because i think they should come back to start as safety over Lewis right now.

[jason1981]

Where is our4 pass rush. It doesnt seem like our def is playing as aggressive the last few weeks. Where is all the blitzes?

[ctchiefsfan]

Oh jeez! I am not liking this one bit.

[doobs_05]

The naysayers are going to have a fun week if this continues. Add the fact a third string qb is doing this then they'll question the D, but it's only 1 quarter

[brdempsey69]

Two Chiefs DB's got had on that play.

So history is no precedent regarding this game, huh? BULLSH!T !!

[ctchiefsfan]

I was really wanting us to put this one away early for once.

[iratefan]

The naysayers are going to have a fun week if this continues. Add the fact a third string qb is doing this then they'll question the D, but it's only 1 quarter

i wouldnt call myself a naysayer - but at this point i am starting to question this D. moreso in the secondary than up front. Sean Smith and on that last play Marcus Cooper looking more interested in interceptions by clever route jumping than staying on man covg - Lewis failing to cover the back end allowing receivers to get behind him way too easily. The rest of the short game stuff is really just reading that intense pass rush of ours and countering.

[jason1981]

Where is our pass rush? We hwvent even touched their qb yet.

[matthewschiefs]

Can't say Bowe didn't show up today so far so good from Mr Bowe keep it up

[matthewschiefs]

Smith just missed that throw That's on you Alex

[matthewschiefs]

That was just stupid should have been flaged

[iratefan]

alex smith got bailed out on that over throw - ball looks like it was slightly wind-affected actually - but not only was that interception worthy - but it blew the yards. poor fasano has to take t he hit to get some yards.

[doobs_05]

Thanks..............I guess

[matthewschiefs]

It's pretty sad that even when our O line holds Smith has very little time

[ctchiefsfan]

Bowe getting into this game more.

[iratefan]

if we're going to start feeding chad hall the ball on a screen we should at least give that litte guy some blockers, yeah? but dont worry the oline holding calls comes back to save the day.

[ctchiefsfan]

DAMMIT! Penalty.

[matthewschiefs]

Our "top 5 LT" Got beat BADLY again

But Smith can't fumble like that lucky we got the ball back the offense is Crap again today

[iratefan]

so much for this cinderella drive. this buffoonery is starting to become rancorous

[ctchiefsfan]

Oh thank god!!!!!!!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

DAMN!

[iratefan]

so we go from knocking on the redzone door to allowing multiple Oline abortions to put us back to near kickoff distance. No 3 points, do not pass go, etc.

This unit is supposed to be getting better, not worse.

Also is it true that we have a JAX line coach heading those guys up? is that guy just like everything else affiliated with JAX these days?

[nigeriannightmare]

I'm sorry if I'm late to the party but damn Kendrick Lewis has no idea how to take angles....none. That TD is on him with as much air as was there was under that ball how the hell didn't be get there

[brdempsey69]

Our "top 5 LT" Got beat BADLY again

But Smith can't fumble like that lucky we got the ball back the offense is Crap again today

It's funny how so many out there are making Fisher out to be a big scapegoat & at the same time are saying how great Albert is.

Albert has NOT outplayed Fisher this year by any stretch of the imagination.

[matthewschiefs]

PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice job by Lewis

NOW OFFENSE GET SOME FREAKING POINTS DO SOMETHING

[iratefan]

Lewis - when youre not out of position youre IN position to make some good plays :) like tackles, blocks, and INTs. I wonder if that is goingn to slow down the deep effort by buffalo at all for the rest of the game...

[jason1981]

Finally the def gets in the game. Lewis might just have made up for getting burned earlier.

[brdempsey69]

There !! Lewis bounces back with a pick.

[ctchiefsfan]

God my livestream is running about 15 seconds behind. Nice job Lewis! Now out O needs to get out there and get same points!

[matthewschiefs]

It's funny how so many out there are making Fisher out to be a big scapegoat & at the same time are saying how great Albert is.

Albert has NOT outplayed Fisher this year by any stretch of the imagination.

Yep the whole line is a mess they shouldn't get any time off this week during the bye they've been on bye all season

[nigeriannightmare]

Good god Alex smith has got throw more accurately. That's two terrible throws to open receivers.

[ctchiefsfan]

Gotta have this first down!

[iratefan]

not sure how smith got away from that sack but props to him for making this work! he knows he needs to make a play and props to bowe for being ther for the support!

[matthewschiefs]

Great job by Smith once again running for his freaking life

Great job by Bowe. This is why I'm so hard on Bowe I know he can do stuff like this Bowe has shown up to play today

[ctchiefsfan]

Nice job Alex and Bowe!

[iratefan]

what that wasnt a first down?!?

[iratefan]

i actually like that conversion line a lot - that was a direct full back handoff and sherman has the size to push a foot. i like that call.

[ctchiefsfan]

Smith getting no time.

[matthewschiefs]

Bowe Give

Bowe take away

[iratefan]

bowe jeckel and hyde strikes again. can catch it anywhere - except right at his body!

[iratefan]

this lack of touchdown conversion i think epitomizes this offensive impotency. not one shot was taken in the endzone.

[jason1981]

Again bowe drops an easy catch that was in his hands.

[nigeriannightmare]

Yeah Branden Albert is flat out getting beat.....repeatedly! Our oline needs some serious help.

[jason1981]

Would it be better for reid to give play calling duties to someone else?

[ctchiefsfan]

We really needed 7 there. Glad to get the three, but I have a feeling we are going to need some TDs to win this.

[matthewschiefs]

Yeah Branden Albert is flat out getting beat.....repeatedly! Our oline needs some serious help.


Been saying it all year this line is not good. It's not just Fisher it's the whole line from Rt to LT and everywhere in between

[jason1981]

Been saying it all year this line is not good. It's not just Fisher it's the whole line from Rt to LT and everywhere in between

Oline play has been down league wide this year as well.

[ctchiefsfan]

SHI*

[Pro_Angler]

Horrible start guys we look very lost

[iratefan]

the bills with a 3rd string qb seem to be out-reid'ing andy reids short game offense.

d.johnson was out of positionto make that tackle - interesting to see what happens when d.johnson isnt a beast in the center closing running lanes down.

[ctchiefsfan]

Dammit! This rookie is picking us apart.

[Pro_Angler]

We aren't attacking at the snap..we are trying to react

[iratefan]

kendrick lewis again turning bad situations worse?

no - didnt throw a hard enough hit to be considered

[ctchiefsfan]

Bad! bad bad bad.....

[Pro_Angler]

We need a turn over

[ctchiefsfan]

Desperately need to hold them to three.

[iratefan]

We need a turn over


correct me if im wrong, but i feel like this can now be filed under '**** chiefs fans say' to get us out of bad situations our lack of productivity puts us in?

[nigeriannightmare]

How the hell hasn't tuel been hit at least once. This is concerning to me. Why the hell wouldn't the d bring the heat as often as possible instead of giving him time.

[jason1981]

We aren't attacking at the snap..we are trying to react

Exactly wwhre is the aggressiveness that we seen at the begiing of the year. WHere we dictated the offense and not this read and react crap.

[ctchiefsfan]

Sutton will need to make some great adjustments at the half if we are going to stay in this game.

[Pro_Angler]

The defense fir the last 3 week's haven't been attacking the snap. No qb pressure. This QB should be feeling pressure even when it's not there. Were playing the watch and react game and thats nogood. We will lose badly if we don't make some adjustments

[matthewschiefs]

Finally we got some pressure on there QB

[Pro_Angler]

That time we pressure and he threw it away.. we need to hit this guy every play

[Pro_Angler]

Ty cooper he. Stripped it

[iratefan]

How the hell hasn't tuel been hit at least once. This is concerning to me. Why the hell wouldn't the d bring the heat as often as possible instead of giving him time.

easy. theyre studying film. theyre making high percentage plays getting the ball out fast. hes releasing when he gets pressure and avoids the sack. the offensive line can actualy handle a 4 man rush.

its not rocket science which is why its infuriating to learn that year after year the chiefs cant seem to pull this off with their starters.

[Bike]

Cooper saved 7

[jason1981]

Nice stop there. That was big to hold them to 3 there.

[brdempsey69]

Held them to three. Still a chance for the Offense to do something before halftime.

[Pro_Angler]

We have to answer with a TD going into half!!!

[jason1981]

easy. theyre studying film. theyre making high percentage plays getting the ball out fast. hes releasing when he gets pressure and avoids the sack. the offensive line can actualy handle a 4 man rush.

its not rocket science which is why its infuriating to learn that year after year the chiefs cant seem to pull this off with their starters.

The best way to beat a quick pass is an inside blitz or rush.

[ctchiefsfan]

Held 'em to 3. Good. Needed that!

[Bike]

As poorly as we've been playing, still a very winnable game for us. Our coaching staff has been very good at making halftime adjustments this season.

[ctchiefsfan]

As poorly as we've been playing, still a very winnable game for us. Our coaching staff has been very good at making halftime adjustments this season.

And we are going to need it!

[iratefan]

sucks we dont have a unit that can go out there and sling it, taking a timeout there kills all momentum.

[matthewschiefs]

Albert hurts us AGAIN

[iratefan]

i dont think ive seen a line play this bad in i dont know how long.

[ctchiefsfan]

Bowe really getting into this game.

[Bike]

Offense doesn't seem to be in much of a hurry with a minute left in the half...

[matthewschiefs]

Mccluster dropped it DAMNIT that would have been a TD UGGGGHHHHH

[Bike]

You have GOT to be kidding me.

[Pro_Angler]

Dmc you frikin idiot wide open TD..moron

[iratefan]

this is why DMC is not, should not and never will be a reliable receiver. last weeks grab was a fluke.

[Pro_Angler]

And we don't need WR's

[Bike]

Why not throw it down the field again? Play calling terrible.

[iratefan]

well thats two blown touchdowns -not by alex smith - but by ridiculous receiver drops.

[ctchiefsfan]

Dex dex dex. WTF!!!!

[ctchiefsfan]

Should have gone right back to Dex.

[jason1981]

Mccluster just droped an easy td uad he had caught an easy catch.

[Pro_Angler]

And dmc laughing on the ssideline Piss me off even more!!!!

[matthewschiefs]

This is one we can still win but we really deserve to lose based on how we played in the first half.

Smith missed some throws

Both Lines have been badly outplayed by the bills

Mccluster drop

We are doing all the things that get you beat

[ctchiefsfan]

Want a turnover here.

[jason1981]

Yes I dont like rieds plwy calling. He has abonded the run already as well. Should have ran the same play amd see what happened.

[rodu]

oh I bet that drop comes back to haunt us

[brdempsey69]

McCluster is NOT a WR. He should be used out the backfield more often.

This team needs to acquire playmakers at WR this coming offseason.

[Bike]

This is one we can still win but we really deserve to lose based on how we played in the first half.

Smith missed some throws

Both Lines have been badly outplayed by the bills

Mccluster drop

We are doing all the things that get you beatYes. We need a complete turnaround in the 2nd half. It almost seems as though this team is satisfied at 8-1 going into the bye.

[jason1981]

And dmc laughing on the ssideline Piss me off even more!!!!

Yeah thats a lil disturbing. Laughing cuz he just blew a td that could come back to haunt us.

[Pro_Angler]

This isn't the same team from the first 5 games!!! Our d us watch wait and our o is bland bad not running the ball 7 runs in first half... Wth...we need to spread the offense and throw slants and screens!

[Pro_Angler]

We gave 96 yds passing and JC 26 yds 7 attempts rushing

[Bike]

This isn't the same team from the first 5 games!!! Our d us watch wait and our o is bland bad not running the ball 7 runs in first half... Wth...we need to spread the offense and throw slants and screens!

They are playing Bowe 1 on 1 and playing their safeties up. Their D line is doing the job on it's own. They are daring us to throw it down the field. With Smith with no time and receivers dropping balls, even screens are gonna be tough. We need to grind it out with Charles to open things up a little...

[matthewschiefs]

They are playing Bowe 1 on 1 and playing their safeties up. Their D line is doing the job on it's own. They are daring us to throw it down the field. With Smith with no time and receivers dropping balls, even screens are gonna be tough. We need to grind it out with Charles to open things up a little...

That's anther thing how do we only run the ball 7 times with one of the best Rbs in the NFL. We are just begging to get beat today. It's like they are already halfway out the door for the bye

[Eydugstr]

Well...outside of Bowe, we just don't have much in the WR department. Why they are not using Fasano more? Or Sherman?

Marcus Cooper has been playing GREAT football all game. He salvaged the first half, along with Kendrick Lewis' INT. The offense did put together a long drive, we should've been able to punch it in, but our WR's seem to have a case of teflon hands. Too many drops.

Tuel is staring down his recievers big time. Sutton's going to take advantage of that.

[jason1981]

They are playing Bowe 1 on 1 and playing their safeties up. Their D line is doing the job on it's own. They are daring us to throw it down the field. With Smith with no time and receivers dropping balls, even screens are gonna be tough. We need to grind it out with Charles to open things up a little...

By what your saying how buf def is llaying the way to open it up is to go down field not with charles. Their playing to shutdown charles and jot worrying about anything deep.

[matthewschiefs]

We deserve the L for sure

[Pro_Angler]

We need to #1 get after this QB a
Every down!! #2 we need to hit some slants and run outside

[Bike]

Missed tackles everywhere. This defense is just not motivated today.

[iratefan]

this has got to be some type of pitiful joke. if i see k lewis flop on the turf with nothing but air one more time im going to flip.

[Pro_Angler]

Well it's all but over... we are self destructing

[Pro_Angler]

I'm gonna puke!! We gave regressed to 2012.. I don't get it.

[Pro_Angler]

Hi w can u throw thatched the ball is 10 yds out??

[nigeriannightmare]

Our defense is done folks. Every d is gonna have a bad game this is ours. Damn we can't even tackle

[iratefan]

buffalo's mistake that last running play - they ran to the left with devito/jackson and hali

[Bike]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[matthewschiefs]

PICK 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And just like that we are back in it

[iratefan]

rookie qb mistake - WW(EJ Manuel) D!?

[Pro_Angler]

Omg?? Wth was that?? I'm blown away

[nigeriannightmare]

That didn't just happen

[Bike]

WOW! New ballgame.

[matthewschiefs]

Needless to say that was FREAKING HUGE

[jason1981]

Wow oh wow nice pick 6 sean smith

[brdempsey69]

Pick six for 100 yards by Sean Smith !!

Can you say -- BIG TIME PLAY AT A CRITICAL MOMENT !!

[Bike]

I hope this fires up this defense.

[Pro_Angler]

Stuff ing them twice at line they knew it was gonna bc e pass and jumped it nicely

[iratefan]

That didn't just happen

That typically doenst just happen if its not for a big rookie like qb mistake. you cant show 3 receivers heavy right , ignore the playaction, stare down your receiver and try to lead him into the endzone. those are passes that Sean Smith dreams about at night.

[jason1981]

Stuff ing them twice at line they knew it was gonna bc e pass and jumped it nicely

As much a good play it was. We didnt jump the route. It was more a bad decision by qb cuz stevie Johnson was wide open if tuel had held it for a secm

[iratefan]

ahhh after watching that replay - yeah SMITH GAMBLED THAT! sorry but sj is wide open in the endzone there. it payed off this time but i wonder what happens when you get a manning behind the helm with that look. easiest td of his career in that case.

[matthewschiefs]

They are still running the ball Way to easy

[Bike]

Of course announcers saying it was dumb luck as Smith left Johnson alone in the endzone and blew the coverage. I say Smith was reading tuel's eyes the whole play.

[Pro_Angler]

Omg running us over..tackle someone

[iratefan]

why are the chiefs near last in the league in run defense? i thought it was because of running qb's sneaking yards... but today it appears as though they cant even tackle!

[Bike]

Make them pay.

[Bike]

Time for O to find the endzone - please?

[brdempsey69]

Unbelievable !! The Bills turned it over on downs like that at about the 40-yard line.

[Pro_Angler]

Whew,,, tats what's bad about being udefeated.. teams go for it and take way more chances..

[iratefan]

if that was Case Keenum making that throw thats a buffalo TD - sean smith looks like hes good on short routes but ive seen him get burnt on longer routes and straight sprints on more than a few occasions

[rodu]

our tackling is giving me flashbacks of the last decade

[iratefan]

Buffalo's game plan for the rest of the game should be this -

Spiller hand off, pull left , run right. works every time for at least 10 yards!

[jason1981]

Of course announcers saying it was dumb luck as Smith left Johnson alone in the endzone and blew the coverage. I say Smith was reading tuel's eyes the whole play.

No smith was lucky. Smith went to jam the wr then stumbled and just was at the right place. But it was a busted play.

[Bike]

Unbelievable !! The Bills turned it over on downs like that at about the 40-yard line.Yeah they know the MO has swung to the Chiefs and they trying to get it back. Not to be!

[iratefan]

no wonder andy reid doesnt call running plays that was an abortion of an end around

[jason1981]

Wtf a reverse?

[Bike]

Perfect. Smith does well when he steps up in the pocket.

[Pro_Angler]

That water PI.. and nice slant!!!!!!!

[iratefan]

yes turn the momentum! big run up the gut by charles lowering the helm for the first down.

[iratefan]

That water PI.. and nice slant!!!!!!!

they almost didnt call it which was ridiculous! i was yelling and upset the wife and pets!

[Bike]

Charles in charge - finally.

[Pro_Angler]

Maybe wearing out d for Charles 2nd half

[Bike]

Smith overthrowing receivers again.

[Pro_Angler]

Threw test too late to Charles

[matthewschiefs]

Somehow Someway we have the lead

[Pro_Angler]

Why is it every play our offense is so bunched up?? Lets see some 3-4 WR sets!!!!

[iratefan]

seriously when has a floater pass to a running back EVER been a realistic throw made by ANY TEAAM !? you need a big powerful receiver that can GO GET A BALL to throw that play. and unfortunately we dont have one.

IM glad that we were able to move the chains, but seriously... the cuteness on display in the offensive play calling is MADDENING!!!
An end around with 3 DL's penetrating to tackle in the backfield?!?

[jason1981]

We should have ran on that 3-5 everyone knew we was going to pass. Ried play calling is spotty to say the least.

[iratefan]

Smith overthrowing receivers again.

id hardly call jamaal charles a receiver. but why make that call and throw at all to begin with? thats just ludicrous.

[Pro_Angler]

I called that play right to Charles way before the snap!!! It was thrown too late.. obvious 2nd option. My son laughed when I was screaming Charles right before the snap.

[rodu]

I think that Charles pass was meant to get a LB to cover him, not a safety

[Bike]

Why is it every play our offense is so bunched up?? Lets see some 3-4 WR sets!!!!Maybe no confidence in o-line.

[Pro_Angler]

Well we got in FG range and stooped doing what got us there. It pisses me off!! We do that a lot.. we get there and then get cutsie..

Come on D...

[Pro_Angler]

Omg stupid penalties.. he did even hit him

[matthewschiefs]

BS call

[iratefan]

thats the first no-contact roughing the passer call that ive ever seen in my life!!!!!
once again referees are trying to throw the game away from us ONCE AGAIN! (or so it feels)

[Pro_Angler]

Once again it's proven that they want us to lose!! That was a joke penalty

[iratefan]

this marcus cooper kid is just playing really impressive coverage i cant give him enough props!

[Bike]

thats the first no-contact roughing the passer call that ive ever seen in my life!!!!!
once again referees are trying to throw the game away from us ONCE AGAIN! (or so it feels)Lol. bad call.

[rodu]

the refs see QB go down out of corner of their eye, bam flag, horrible call

[jason1981]

That was a bul**** roughing the passer. He left his leg sticking out amd flowers was running by not I to the qb

[ctchiefsfan]

Damned zebras.

[Pro_Angler]

I will say this.. that new QB is throwing some spot on deep balls.. we need to pressure him.

[ctchiefsfan]

Got to stop 'em here!

[Pro_Angler]

Omg wide open

[Bike]

DJ playing lights out.

[Pro_Angler]

I can't watch

[iratefan]

no one can make a tackle. how can no one on a football team make a tackle!?

[rodu]

whomever met Jackson in the hole just there went for the arm tackle, why?

[iratefan]

3rd and 8? no problem. run the ball... ???

[ctchiefsfan]

WTF?????

[matthewschiefs]

The Bills don't seem to want to win this one either

[Pro_Angler]

We got lucky..it was almost pick

[ctchiefsfan]

Oh for god's sake??????????????

[rodu]

arm tackling is correctable, I think that was Jordan who whiffed a few plays back. Didn't move his feet, just reached and nothing

[iratefan]

i am appalled this football game is tied 13-13. this should be a 10-27 lead right now and im quite frankly disgusted. Yet the bills seem reluctant to slam dunk in our faces...

[Pro_Angler]

I guess it's the 1st TD wins it kinda game?? We need to spread it out!@

[Bike]

Can this offense score a single td?

[matthewschiefs]

i am appalled this football game is tied 13-13. this should be a 10-27 lead right now and im quite frankly disgusted. Yet the bills seem reluctant to slam dunk in our faces...

Yep we have played bad enough to deserve the L the Bills are giving us the chance to get the W

[ctchiefsfan]

Gotta get a TD here!

[Pro_Angler]

Bunched up again

[brdempsey69]

FFS, at least try throwing the ball 10 yards down the field.

[ctchiefsfan]

FFS, at least try throwing the ball 10 yards down the field.

Or at least 4 or 5 yards downfield. 4th quarter now. We really need to bring it now!

[matthewschiefs]

Bowe SMH

[Pro_Angler]

Pass too late...hate the play calling

[jason1981]

Stop throwing to bowe on 3rd down. Its that easy

[iratefan]

at some point in a pass heavy offense, you have to have a guy that can catch a ****ing ball!

[Bike]

This offense is outright terrible.

[Pro_Angler]

Our WR are way to slow

[ctchiefsfan]

Smith taking it on the ground.

[ctchiefsfan]

Bowe you idiot! WTF?

[nigeriannightmare]

This offense is outright terrible.

Three huge drops today. One a guaranteed 7. It's been there.

[brdempsey69]

Please start clamping down on C.J. Spiller.

[matthewschiefs]

That's a fumble TOUCHDOWN

[Bike]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pro_Angler]

TD chiefs!@ do not even think about changing it

[rodu]

our defense is our offense

[iratefan]

who needs receivers when your defense can score 14 points!? *SMH

[Pro_Angler]

That is absolutely a fumble!!!

[matthewschiefs]

The real competition in this game is who wants to lose more

[rodu]

what's the record for defensive TD's in a season?

[ctchiefsfan]

Jeez my stream is 3 plays behind.

[Justin5772002]

GOOD JOB cooper/Hali!!!

[iratefan]

Marcus Cooper - just keep playing your brand of football son, you are doing amazing. I just hope we dont have to give you up to the cowboys in 2 years for a 60 mil 5 year deal :(